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Would Jesus Discriminate?: Responding to Uganda's Gay Death Penalty Bill

Posted: 12/17/10 07:17 PM ET

If David Bahati succeeds in passing the death penalty for homosexuals in Uganda, we need to pray for our own deliverance in the United States. Analysts tell us that at least 10 African nations will follow his lead immediately. Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people in Uganda are already in hiding or on the run. Children, women and men infected with HIV/AIDS are being denied treatment. Zimbabwe is already on a parallel track. We don't think of Bahati in the same way that we think of Mugabe of Zimbabwe -- one smiles and says he loves gay people. The other reeks of violence. Yet, they are the same wolf at our door.

If Bahati succeeds, we will have allowed him to set the gold standard for wide-spread consumer adoption of sanctioned genocide of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. He and his USA-based radical fundamentalist/evangelical cronies have achieved critical mass in Uganda (more than 90 percent of the people say that homosexuality is a sin and a crime). His message has been clear, consistent and unwavering -- the three tenants of great marketing.

If he succeeds, we can credit our own citizens within the anti-gay movement who have funded and elevated him to rock star status. And, we can credit ourselves for the lives of women and children and men that will be lost in Uganda and in the other African nations who plan to follow Bahati's lead. We have not sent a message that the human rights of gay people are important enough to place U.S. or United Nation's sanctions against Uganda.

In fact, we have encouraged Uganda's trajectory of violence by sending a message that we are divided over basic human rights for gay (LGBT) people. Some of our states have equal marriage, most do not. Some of our cities protect employment for LGBT people. Most do not. We do not effectively prosecute hate crimes. We have just completed elections that were predictable trajectories for the radical religious right. LGBT advocacy organizations do not agree on the messaging that is best to create dialogue with our opponents and, as a result, have limited impact. Those of us who believe in the worth and dignity of every human being and a welcoming God who calls us to love our neighbor lost our way on equal marriage, on employment non-discrimination and Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Our response to this loss was a bit of a collective sigh, but not much else.

We need to get it together. The wolf is at our door and he is very hungry.

I have one idea about one way to to assemble ourselves to push back against the monstrous influence of Bahati and his co-conspirators. My proposal has a track record of modest success in 50+ cities around the world. It comes out of my own practical experience as an ordained, progressive Christian minister and my upbringing as an evangelical and very conservative Christian in the American South.

It is called the Would Jesus Discriminate? Campaign. One discrete measurement of the outcomes of the campaign in Indianapolis demonstrated a 16 percent improvement in attitudes toward gay people after 12 weeks. This program is not designed for the "movable middle." The voting bloc of evangelical, fundamentalist and conservative people is winning. Bahati is winning. Can we afford to continue to write them off? Our ignoring of them seems to be feeding them.

What makes the WJD Campaign work?

1. Not being afraid to invoke the name and example of the Great Includer, Jesus(more than 90 percent of all Americans recognize His name and associate particular behaviors with His name)

2. Inviting people you know to consider and answer for themselves the simple question of Would Jesus Discriminate?

3. Systematically applying the market-proven methodology of consumer adoption in localized markets where neighbors observe neighbors and talk to them about making choices

Most consumers are not early adopters. They want to see if a person who takes a risk is ridiculed or revered. If not, once critical mass is obvious, the majority of people jump in too. We do not have to let the Bahati-effect take root in America. I believe that we must invoke the name of Jesus, as Lawrence Morley says, to create a "revolt [that] must come from the mind: a growing unease and dissatisfaction with things as they are."

You can invoke Jesus's name without being Christian or even a person of faith just like you can invoke the name of John Kennedy without being Catholic. Ask yourself the question, Would Jesus Discriminate? and then ask your neighbor. Take time to listen and share what you believe is right for all people.

The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. says it best: "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."

Be a friend and speak up.

 
 
 

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If David Bahati succeeds in passing the death penalty for homosexuals in Uganda, we need to pray for our own deliverance in the United States. Analysts tell us that at least 10 African nations will f...
If David Bahati succeeds in passing the death penalty for homosexuals in Uganda, we need to pray for our own deliverance in the United States. Analysts tell us that at least 10 African nations will f...
 
 
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11:03 PM on 12/24/2010
Arguments over faith, religion, old vs new testaments, etc will and have gone on for centuries. I simply want the radical christians who force their beliefs on others especially the poor or uneducated to stop this and at some point in the future be called out for making extinct many societies and cultures to meet their faith based ideas on what is recorded as the words of someone unproven to have existed. We KNOW of humans and societies way before the life of jesus but somehow that 33 year period of his life has vanished. Means something if your able to look deeper.
01:23 PM on 12/23/2010
As Christians you cannot just divorce yourself from the Old Testament. The first page of the Bible doesn't say "This part is optional, turn to chapter 34." You cannot accept the creation story, or the story of Moses, or Noah or any of those other things and then claim the Old Testament is irrelevant. Leviticus 20:13 is the passage that condemns homosexuals to death. Am I wrong in thinking the bible says it's the "Word of God", are you all claiming that god was wrong? Sorry I'm no Christian but I think most people who are, and are in support of this, are complete hypocrites. I believe in DADT which is why I cannot bring myself to be a hypocritical Christian. Jesus never once said the words of the Old Testament were false. Never. Ever. You cannot just knit pick your own version of the bible together. It's either the word of god and it is timeless, or it isn't, you can't just decide you like this part and not that one.
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brooklyncitizen
Quaerite primum regnum dei
08:43 PM on 12/23/2010
If by your own admission you are not a Christian then you are the least likely to dictate to Christians what they should or shouldn't believe.Doesn't sound as if you have ever cracked open a Bible.
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sempronia
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10:52 AM on 12/26/2010
I hate to break it to you, but this is not going to work. First of all, the Bible has been read in choice ways for centuries -- for instance, some 4th century Christian fathers regarded Genesis as allegorical, not literal. St. Augustine's doctrine on marriage is actually pretty tame in comparison to Paul's because he has to tweak Paul, who was expecting the apocalypse, to create a working life for Christians at a time when the Second Coming was nowhere in sight. And there is a sense in the New Testament that Christians are absolved of Jewish law: off the top of my head, Acts 10 is strongly interpreted as Peter being absolved of the need to keep kosher -- God repeats himself three times to mimic the three times that kosher law is mentioned in the Old Testament. If a Christian doesn't keep kosher, why should he or she feel hypocritical for supporting gay people?

Secondly, atheists are profoundly outnumbered by Christians, so ostracizing any claims that Christians have to approving the repeal of DADT is absolutely ludicrous. Doing so also implies a hidden enjoyment of the martyr complex so espoused by the crazies you are telling moderate Christians to be -- was it more fun when only two of you were out there protesting DADT? If you don't like the articles that use Christian rhetoric to argue Christian grounds to remind a Christian audience to act with humanity and humility, don't read them, because you aren't the
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rjhuntington
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08:15 AM on 12/23/2010
Jesus said, "Love one another." He didn't say, "judge one another" or "hate one another" and he didn't appoint anyone judge or jury. Would Jesus discriminate? Maybe against those who judge others after being explicitly told not to.
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hayness
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12:56 AM on 12/23/2010
God mandated the death penalty for homosexuals in the Old Testament. Depending on your belief system, Jesus is either god's incarnation on earth, or God's son. Either way, Jesus' teachings ought to be consistent with the OT as God's law is perfect and immutable. Jesus never said much one way or another on the topic (Paul condemned homosexuality). Therefore, it seems to me that for Christians, homosexuality should still be considered a capital offense.
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rjhuntington
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08:11 AM on 12/23/2010
Jesus said, "Love one another." He didn't say whom to love or how. Jesus also said he is the New Testament, which tosses out the old, which as far as I can tell, Jesus never even recommended reading. When his disciples said, "Master, what shall we do?" Jesus didn't ask them what Moses said and he didn't tell them to find the answer in scriptures. Instead, Jesus said, "Love one another." That wasn't even in the Old Testament. Jesus also never even mentioned homosexuality, which must mean it isn't important or surely he would have had something to say about it.
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All in all, I'm loving every rise and fall (RHCP)
09:27 AM on 12/23/2010
Well, Jesus did tell his followers to "hate," too. Their families. And he was fine with exhorting his followers--men--to leave their wives and children to follow him. He was ok with saying people like me would burn forever. Didn't speak out against slavery, but used it as a positive example of a relationship. He said some good things, too, but overall, I don't find "What Would Jesus Do" to be the best guide for moral, compassionate behavior. Not the worst either, but not the best.

But, yes, he was silent on homosexuality. When it comes to homosexuality in the Bible, all you've got is Leviticus, which no one would ever suggest we should live by, and Paul, who most Christians also ignore selectively. Confront an anti-gay Christian with another verse from Leviticus or certain ones from Paul and they'll justify ignoring those while defending the alleged anti-homosexuality verses. It's mind-boggling.

The very idea of the Uganda law is horrifying as is the fact that is has support from some in the US.
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Lively up yourself.
10:19 PM on 12/22/2010
Secretive Christian Group of Conservative Lawmakers Building a 'God-Led' Government
"The Family has always operated in secret; for more than 70 years, the group has influenced policy and business deals in the U.S. and abroad almost entirely without the public’s notice. Family members have advocated for the violently anti-gay legislation currently before Uganda’s legislature; David Bahati, MP who introduced the bill to Uganda’s parliament, has been a longtime darling of the Family and a guest at the group’s only public event, the National Prayer Breakfast. Their involvement in the Uganda anti-gay bill isn’t an outlier: in the past, the Family has done business favors and supported dictatorships in Indonesia, Somalia and Haiti, among other nations under authoritarian rule. Meanwhile, Family forces connected to the U.S. military seek to spread fundamentalist Christianity. An organization of 15,000 officers is dedicated to what is described as “reclaiming territory for Christ in the military.”
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/148413/the_family_secretive_christian_group_of_conservative_lawmakers_building_a_godled_government
07:12 PM on 12/22/2010
If Jesus was as good a teacher as Christians say he was, then I think he'd want Christians to quit using him as a cop-out for problems they should be able to solve for themselves. This bill has religious backing and is inspired by religious teachings.

To me, this could mean a few things:
1. Jesus is not a good teacher.
2. Jesus' teachings are not clear enough.
3. Jesus' followers cannot think for themselves.

The problem with organized religion is that it's so disorganized; people get mixed messages when it comes to issues like killing homosexuals and using condoms. Any Ugandan who proclaims to be a Christian yet supports this bill is beyond ridiculous. How does this kind of Christian justify the death of another human being while attempting to improve the life of others? If there really is a heaven waiting for them, how to they justify killing homosexuals but defending their charity and good works to other human beings.

This, like many other issues in the Christian Church, reek of contradiction. Adults who've spent the last 2,000 years waiting for someone to "come back" while assuring us that it's going to be "soon".
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brooklyncitizen
Quaerite primum regnum dei
06:22 PM on 12/23/2010
The flaw actually lies in not understanding what Christianity is and what organized religion is about.Judging from your post you are making the assumption that Christianity is dogma or a series of instructions and it couldn't be further from the truth. THe other erroneous assumption is that everyone is on the same page if they call themselves Christian.

We are called to live our faith and that is a daily call to perfection; we all start out in different places and at different levels of understanding precisely what this call is and what our response needs to be. Just because many distort the truth for political gain doesn't mean the truth is invalidated.
09:54 PM on 12/23/2010
Christianity is based on a series of instructions given in the Bible; that is the truth - it is not an assumption. Yet the various congregations in the various Christian churches cannot agree on a singular translation. Some see homosexuality as an abomination. Some see it as acceptable. Some see it as acceptable as long as someone doesn't practice their homosexuality. I don't care where you are in your level of understanding; the Bible/Jesus/God should have been more clear to eliminate any understanding.

Yes, you are called to live your faith, but you do it based on a book with directions on how to live your life regardless of what level of understanding you happen to carry. And please don't confuse truth with the Bible. A man living in a whale is not truth; it is fantasy.
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07:00 PM on 12/22/2010
I don't know if Jesus would be a jerk, he's not here. But I do know that his followers will happily discriminate, ostracize, torture, murder, and just generally do whatever they want in Jesus's name.
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brooklyncitizen
Quaerite primum regnum dei
06:25 PM on 12/23/2010
Have you ever heard of anyone discriminating, ostracizing, murdering, and generally doing whatever they wanted for political gain yet WAS NOT a Christian?
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EmmaDarian
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07:12 PM on 12/23/2010
Would that justify Christians doing terrible things in Jesus' name? As long as someone else does it, too, it's ok? "Hey, it's not just us" isn't a terribly good defense.

The Ugandan law is based on the Bible, and those who have been supporting it in the US are Christians. That's why we are discussing Christians.
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01:35 PM on 12/22/2010
Would Jesus discriminate and if so how? There is nothing inherently wrong with discrimination, it is how we as humans practice discrimination that is the problem.

We have been hammered with the idea of "tolerance", but tolerance of what? Does anything go?

Would Jesus discriminate against, or tolerate the call for the death of individuals who are heterosexual or homosexual, or would he discriminate, hence not tolerate, the calls for the death of the either?

I have been thinking about "freedom of religion" and it's inherent and necessary caveat, "freedom from religion".

While the religious and non-religious are willing to take up arms to defend those constitutional rights, we refuse to accord the same fervor to "freedom of speech".

As such we live in a society where anything goes, including rabid free speech rights, which is in reality hate speech. Perhaps when Jesus speaks of the stone the builders rejected, he wasn't talking about the founders of the constitution but the constituents. Constituents are builders by default in one way or another.

We are builders of society and the constitution is our specificatations of how to build a society so that the pursuit of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is available to all because we have harmonized the first amendment, rationally.

Until then we will continue to live in chaos.
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07:32 AM on 12/22/2010
"He and his USA-based radical fundamentalist/evangelical cronies have achieved critical mass in Uganda (more than 90 percent of the people say that homosexuality is a sin and a crime)."

Cindi, can you please provide the names of those evangelical Christians who are asking for the death penalty...or are you implying that because they call it a sin, then they should be held responsible for the death penalty bill that is being pushed in Uganda..?

please clarify..
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06:02 AM on 12/22/2010
Jesus came to fulfill the law because no one else can. As a consequence He made Himself the perfect Lamb who was sacrificed for our sins.

To claim to be a Christian and ask for the death penalty for those who sin is to disregard Christ's sacrifice and willingly return under the law...which cannot justify, but condemn only, consequently damning everyone to the same penalty for other sins as well. Jesus never sentenced or asked anyone to be put to death...neither must Christians.

To the Christian, the law functions as a gauge, noting where they are at, in their walk with Christ.
01:45 AM on 12/22/2010
Color me surprised...a Christian willing to take responsibility for the actions of their less sane brethren. Maybe it's time to realize the *beliefs* are part of the problem.
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brooklyncitizen
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06:31 PM on 12/23/2010
So if we eradicate religion we will eradicate murder, bad laws, discrimination, wars and all ills on this
planet? right?
09:17 PM on 12/21/2010
The sponsors of this bill do not know God, Jesus, and neither mercy nor love!
02:51 PM on 12/20/2010
Jesus wouldn't, but the God of the old testament might.
05:15 PM on 12/20/2010
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)
12:54 PM on 12/21/2010
Blessed are the peace makers, they shall be called sons of God
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03:35 PM on 12/21/2010
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
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10:15 AM on 12/20/2010
I do think most americans would say Jesus would not discriminate, and rightly or wrongly, with Christianity being the main religion (by far) in this country, it is probably the best question to ask someone that values his teachings. I use to have a sarcasim button that said "nuke a gay whale for Christ" to point this out, as most people feel Christ would be against nukes, and killing endangered species, and hopefully it made people think, even if one were gay, he would not condone the killing in his name.
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01:31 PM on 12/20/2010
Wow. And the fundamentalist, the one chained in ignorance, unschooled in irony, learning disabled, a medically recognized condition, would do what? Why he/she would nuke a gay whale, or, at the least, believe that you support their position.
09:58 AM on 12/20/2010
Of course Jesus would discriminate. That is, if there was actually a Jesus (which is up for debate). How could a jealous, arrogant, vengful son-of-god not discriminate?
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LintLass
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11:21 AM on 12/20/2010
Given we know he has editors, would he even have to? :)
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01:27 PM on 12/20/2010
If Jesus is up for debate, then whether or not he would discriminate is up to debate. Some claim yes, others, no. Talking theologically, what is your evidence to support your position one way or another.

That said, and to answer your question............he was adopted by someone else.