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By-the-Numbers God

Posted: 03/ 7/2012 3:17 pm

Apparently, God is a numbers guy. It's evident, according to some, that over these past few days there just weren't enough people praying desperately for their lives with anywhere near enough sincerity in the states of Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, to satisfy the minimum number of prayer petitions required (business is business, after all) to satisfy The Numbers Guy, God. What minimum number of people praying is needed to stop a single tornado? Does it matter what rating the tornado has? Does the number of people needed to pray per tornado increase with the destructive voracity of the funnel? If we had those figures to calculate, we could arrive at the exact number of terrified people in prayer required to stop all the tornadoes that destroyed so much in recent days. Why stop there? If we had the correct number of petitioners, we might pray away tsunamis too, or famine, or hunger, or poverty, or war.

At least that is what we'd think if we believed Rev. Pat Robertson of the 700 Club. As Americans face the devastation and loss of life and the grief caused by the horrific tornadoes of the last few days, Rev. Robertson actually said on his show, "If enough people were praying [God] would've intervened, you could pray, Jesus stilled the storm, you can still storms." According to the headline of the HuffPost article, Rev. Robertson believes, "Tornadoes Could Have Been Stopped If People Had Prayed." I'm guessing people were praying. Lots and lots of people were praying.

Please stop, Reverend. When you say such things, I feel you give all believers a reputation as nut jobs to the non-believers. Worse, it is my belief that you lead the true believers into wrong thinking. Next you'll say that the tornadoes were punishment, like you said Hurricane Katrina was for New Orleans, and make similar statements about other natural disasters. Or maybe you learned that lesson, and will not say such claptrap again.

Just so I can get this straight -- as that two-hundred-yard tornado, and the dozens of other killer tornadoes like it, ripped through homes, lives, families and towns across 11 states, killing 40 people at this count, and taken all together, there just were not enough thousands, tens of thousands, terrified and sincerely praying people, for God to listen, and to act? Really, Rev. Robertson?

Isn't it actually that nature is as nature does, and that we puny little humans might want to stop its destructive forces, but we can't, because nature -- including earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, tsunamis and tornadoes -- are terribly, terrifyingly natural? And reinforce for us, instead of not responding because the numbers are just shy of what is needed (So sorry everybody! Numbers are numbers), that God is with us in our suffering. Further, at our deaths, when we leave this world, we will find that God loves each of us, personally, fully and wholly. That is when each of us will learn that all is well, all has always been well, and that all will be well, because God loves us in ways we cannot imagine.

Personally, I'd rather eat that heavenly cream puff pie in the sky, than the mud pie Rev. Robertson is serving.

 
 
 

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12:57 AM on 03/12/2012
The only thing I would pray for if I were to pray is an end to the mass hysteria of religion. If Pat's god did exists I would side against such a hatefull being, but I sleep soundly knowing that such a god does not exist. Natural disasters happen. They have always happened and will continue to do so for as long as the earth exists. Even longer actually on other planets even if they are not witnessed or recorded. Preperation will save lives. Prayer only wastes time, but I guess like meditation maybe it is a way to calm oneself.
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09:15 PM on 03/08/2012
If everybody sits still politely
after such
a calling card...

knowing full well
that although many people in that area meant to pray
but were kept from doing so
by something...

they will just rebuild and go back to forgetting to pray...
and it will cost them lives and
the time they spent building those lives and the infrastructure of those lives

and it will cost Americans
tax dollars...
if stating things coldly
is what it takes

to get us to wake up.
12:23 PM on 03/08/2012
Pat Robertson is either a fake or a fool or both. He once took credit for praying away a hurricane from the place where HIS PROPERTY was--"Don't send the storm to me, Lord; kill all these other people, not me..."

People who believe there is something to "pray" to should have noted long ago that they have no influence on storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, tidal waves, blizzards, flooding downpours, etc. etc. etc.
These phenomena are known as "weather" and as the old saw goes--everybody talks about it but nobody does anything about it." And think about it--what kind of prayer would influence an omnipotent omniscient being to send a tornado somewhere else just because a few insignificant humans were begging it to do so? What about all of the insignificant human beings in the next county?
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Akla
Leave No Trace, Just a Good Impression
09:23 AM on 03/08/2012
Who can know the mind of Pat? He works in mysterious ways. As for the number? It is the number of the beast--700!
12:23 PM on 03/08/2012
He even added to the number of the Beast.
02:50 PM on 03/08/2012
700 is the number of the Beast's upstairs neighbor.
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eddy joe
welcome to the machine
08:55 AM on 03/08/2012
Maybe their aren't enough CHRISTIANS praying. Or maybe the christians were saved. John 9:31-33 KJV -

Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth
12:24 PM on 03/08/2012
And THAT is another roll of baloney.
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DocJoseph
A bleeding heart will heal; a cold heart will not
12:31 PM on 03/08/2012
And obviously, by your logic, anyone that died wasn't a True Christian (TM). Even if they worshiped daily, gave away fortunes, and died on their knees praying.
07:42 AM on 03/08/2012
Hmmm... interesting thought that, about not being able to prevent damage from natural disasters. Of course, like pretty much everything that comes from the pulpit, it is utterly wrong. Our civil engineering departments know exactly how to prevent loss of life and treasure by building structures that can protect people from harm by natural forces.

It's stupid people all over the country who do not listen and who keep building structures that are known to fail who are causing the problem. People who like to pray...
12:10 PM on 03/08/2012
Civil engineering is hardly a panacea. It can only do so much in any circumstance. Of course, stupid people who place all their trust in technology will continue to fall victim to hubris. People who don't pray ...
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07:27 PM on 03/08/2012
You must lead a very limited life not driving on freeways or bridges, using trains or airplanes, living in buildings or drinking city water. Hope you have good luck catching by hand a varmint for dinner.
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12:53 AM on 03/08/2012
I always enjoy it when people pretend their religious beliefs are justified over another groups religious beliefs...that vastly outnumber them.

You shouldn't try to play the popularity card when you're in the minority.
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09:25 PM on 03/07/2012
Wonderful blog! Mind if I share? There are many with whom I'd like to share a piece of your mind.
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07:28 PM on 03/07/2012
Excellent piece! Thanks ever so much for your sane comments, Rev. Panagore. Mind if I share? There are a few to whom I'd like to give a piece of your mind...
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whirlpool
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04:51 PM on 03/07/2012
I guess Robertson doesn't have a degree in meteorology.
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04:50 PM on 03/07/2012
“Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the angels’ hierarchies? and even if one of them pressed me suddenly against his heart: I would be consumed in that overwhelming existence, For beauty is nothing but the beginning of terror, which we still are just able to endure, and we are so because it serenely disdains to annihilate us.” Rilke
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FreewheelinFranklin
Keep on Truckin'
04:30 PM on 03/07/2012
Pat Robertson in a moment of lucidity? Perhaps the mighty 'erb can also cure Alzheimer's, or whatever normally afflicts poor Pat.
Of course if we legalize it ,and 52% of all US arrests are for Marijuana, that could impact the legal profession severely. Lawyers would have to get real jobs too.