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Unemployment as a Spiritual Issue

Posted: 09/16/11 02:50 PM ET

In the current strident debate about unemployment, we hear politicians and pundits argue about economic policy. The talk is about deficits and economic stimuli and tax policy.

All of this rancor obscures a more fundamental issue: We choose the kind of society in which we live. The choices we make are moral choices and, as moral choices, they are ultimately based on our central religious values.

We tend to treat changes in the economy as if they were like the weather -- natural phenomena governed by forces beyond our control. Nothing could be further from the truth. We have chosen to live in a society with high unemployment and with income distribution that is becoming medieval. A tiny percentage of Americans owns most of the wealth. Meanwhile millions of willing and able people are without work. This did not just happen. We created this situation.

An economics professor once taught me that if you focus on money, you will never understand economics. What he meant was that the economy is a huge system of human relationships in which people produce and exchange things and services. Money is not the economy; money is a way of keeping score.

As social creatures, one of our fundamental needs is to be in relationship, to participate, to give as well as to receive. Look at what happens to people when they are not employed, especially for long periods. Not only does their income go down, so does their sense of worth. They feel isolated and rejected. Having real work to do gives us a sense of dignity, belonging and value.
Some would argue that we should even treat the right to work as a fundamental human right like the freedom to vote or to choose one's religion. In fact, The Universal Declaration of Human Rights includes the right to work and protection from unemployment.

When we realize that the economic system is a human creation which we chose and which we can change, we see important moral choices everywhere. Levels of taxation are a moral choice driven by our religious values. So is the level of unemployment.

For example, we could choose to live in a society with low unemployment. We could choose to have less economic growth if it meant more people would have work. We could choose to pollute less.

Given the choice between living in a country with a few rich people, lots of unemployed people, low taxes and high pollution or a country with fewer rich, more people with jobs, higher taxes and environmental sustainability, I know the choice my religious values point me toward.

It's a no-brainer. I would choose the latter.

What would you choose? The choice is ours to make.

 
In the current strident debate about unemployment, we hear politicians and pundits argue about economic policy. The talk is about deficits and economic stimuli and tax policy. All of this rancor ob...
In the current strident debate about unemployment, we hear politicians and pundits argue about economic policy. The talk is about deficits and economic stimuli and tax policy. All of this rancor ob...
 
 
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12:35 PM on 09/18/2011
Greed is the force that drives American economics.
05:31 PM on 10/03/2011
I humbly and respectfully welcome your thoughts regarding http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/god-and-economics.html.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
01:36 PM on 09/17/2011
"We choose the kind of society in which we live." No we don't. Believing that leads to frustration, desperate acts, terrorism. Society and the economy are a "chaotic system" like weather, we can't control them.

It's the "law of large numbers". You can't predict the motion of one gas particle, but as a whole gas behaves predictably. Same with the economy, the world: there are six billion molecules in the world that collectively exhibit somewhat predictable behavior*. But no one or even group of them can change that collective behavior. It's an illusion. We don't control or even direct society - it is our collective behavior, not easily changed.

*for the geeks: if world population was equal to Avogadro's number, world behavior would probably be completely predictable, 6B is just too small :-)
05:33 PM on 10/03/2011
http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/god-and-economics.html might be of interest. I welcome your thoughts.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
01:25 PM on 09/17/2011
Low wages cause poverty, not unemployment. We had full unemployment for 30 years before 2008, but median wages did not rise. And despite full employment people couldn't afford their mortgages and defaulted. That caused this recession, not the reverse.

Americans work 20% more hours than Europeans, have lower standard of living. The biggest difference is US workforce is 50% female. Wages didn't rise, mothers had to go to work to make ends meet. That increase supply of labor, which lowers prices (wages). The more workers, they less they each will be paid.

Same with college graduates: the greater the supply, the lower the price. Those who claim higher education makes the population richer are wrong. Corporations get richer from the larger and cheaper supply of trained labor, the college-educated get poorer.

Workers make a product, then as consumers buy it back. The difference is profit that goes to stockholders, mainly the hereditary rich. That process transfers wealth to the rich from everyone else. It doesn't then "trickle-down", the rich lend it back to us so process can continue. Eventually people (and taxpayers) can't pay their debt to the rich, the system fails. Happened in 1929, again in 2007.

Capitalism is immoral, unemployment is kindness.
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jimtodd
Unrepentant child of '60s
01:23 PM on 09/17/2011
The link between religion and morality has at least as many deficits as benefits. The least moral among us, the teavangelicals, are the probably the best example since the inquisition.
11:13 AM on 09/17/2011
Although I agree with the basic argument here, it is patently false (and frankly, insulting) to claim that our moral choices are based on our religious values. As an atheist, I have to say that the people who so often seem to promote a society of helping the rich at the expense of the poor are the very people who claim to be devout Christians (see the Tea Party for proof). I think it goes without saying that Christianity has done far more harm throughout history than good when it comes to treatment of their fellow mankind (see the Crusades, the Holocaust, and child molestation for proof).

All of the other religions have their own problems as well, but certainly Christianity's track record seems particularly egregious and hypocritical when trying to promote tolerance and social justice (see the church's stance on gays and women for proof). A world without religion would not only be a more moral world but the people promulgating greed wouldn't be able to do so under the guise of being 'religious'.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
01:41 PM on 09/17/2011
You should read Sam Harris if you haven't already. It doesn't matter what harm or good a religion does, or how happy and successful it makes the believers. What matters is whether it is true or not. Condemning religion for the bad it does is as irrelevant as espousing it for the good it does. Doesn't matter, truth does.
12:21 PM on 09/18/2011
I absolutely agree; however, the religious aren't interested in truth - only in how good or bad they feel about what they believe. So using truth as the basis of any argument with the faithful is utterly pointless. They can't grasp it at all.
02:46 AM on 09/20/2011
You realize that Unitarian Universalism is full of Atheists, Free-thinkers and Religious Humanists right? While not an Atheist religion, there are many who consider themselves Atheists in UU. Rev. Peter Morales isn't advocating a Christian worldview but something bigger, more inclusive and open to all regardless of religious or spiritual affiliation. Universalistsm seeks to bring people together to work out what only humanity, not "God" can fix. Our problems as the dominate species on this big blue-green planet we call home. Blessed Be.
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Mark MacDonald
Pass the Scotch
11:06 AM on 09/17/2011
This article has much to recommend it. I am either an atheist or an agnostic depending on the day of the week, so I do not presume to tell people how to conduct themselves morally. What I do know is that living in a country with high unemployment and fewer chances for people to better their own lives and the lives of others is not a place I want to live. My people of Scots Highlander origins. Their simple belief is that people belong to a Clan, a people tied by blood and tradition, and that a man has an obligation to his Clan. Except for a brief ten years I never lived in a house that did not include at least three, sometimes four generations of MacDonald's. Few of us attend church and many of us are very skeptical regarding the Christian ethic. For at least 14 centuries the clan system has worked for us and allowed us to thrive. Our children are our wealth and our families are our fortresses against calamity. Taking care of the sick and elderly among us is a given, not something open for debate. Sometimes I wonder if 300 million people who have nothing in common except for geography and a vague adherence to a set of beliefs they often disagree upon can ultimately prevail. I hope that it can. Each time I visit my relatives in Scotland, I wonder if perhaps I should not return there.
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CabCurious
let's be honest
09:22 AM on 09/17/2011
"An economics professor once taught me that if you focus on money, you will never understand economics. "

So spot on. If only our population understood this.

If only our journalists understood this...
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Bill Duckworth
It is a DOOZY
09:57 AM on 09/17/2011
I had a degree of economic professors that taught me Money was a means of exchange ONLY.

That although money physical supply had an effect of the flow of goods and services. Like the great depression when a low amount of money restricted commerce. Money Supply should be limited to that and only that. That Milten Friedman Chicago School of economics (GOD to Reagan, Greenspan and Burnacke) was OUT TO LUNCH creating a Money Market and contant Money Supply Manipulations.

If only our Journalist would quit talking LIKE EXPERTS for simply interviewing EXPERTS. New you cannot use instead of information that I can digest into my own opinion and not JOURNALIST OPINION
05:39 PM on 10/03/2011
There might exist a few interesting thoughts in http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/god-and-economics.html. I welcome your thoughts.
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shadowmoon55
08:49 AM on 09/17/2011
I agree in some sense. We do bare some of the responsibility. I don't think we bare most of it. Most of the things that are going on in Washington are beyond our control and we can't help voting for people that are inadequate because our election system seems to require someone to be wealthy to be able to run for office. Often times legislation is controlled by lobbyists and other special interest groups. Often times the media or our representatives fail to inform us adequately about a certain issue.

What we need in this country is election reform, so that anybody, poor or rich, can run and expect to win. We also need to limit the influence of lobbyists and big interest. We need to give this country back to the people before we put the entirety of the blame on the people.
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Jradxit
Faithless morality over baseless faith
08:11 AM on 09/17/2011
No need to invoke religion to advocate for fairness.
05:41 PM on 10/03/2011
I would be grateful for your thoughts regarding the basis for fairness, if not God.
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Jradxit
Faithless morality over baseless faith
08:35 PM on 10/03/2011
Which god's fairness? Yaweh, Allah, Thor, Posiedon? Yaweh's fairness says that the penalty for disrespecting one's parents is death.... Not my idea of fairness. My idea of fairness is relatively simple... If you wouldn't want it done to you, then you shouldn't do it to other people. This is a basic truth that most four year olds understand and many complex situations can be evaluated from this perspective and a fair resolution arrived at, sans god. I
04:54 AM on 09/17/2011
Completely absurd. I'll take Liberty over servitude any day.

No, I'm not willing to be a your tax slave for the illusion of equality. No, I'm not willing to let the state take the fruits of my labor and distribute them to someone else because you think that state-sponsored looting is the moral high-ground.

And, quite frankly, I don't care how you interpret your magic book. It makes you no more noble than the rest of us.
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JudgeMoonbox
09:20 AM on 09/17/2011
"No, I'm not willing to be a your tax slave for the illusion of equality. No, I'm not willing to let the state take the fruits of my labor and distribute them to someone else because you think that state-spon­sored looting is the moral high-groun­d."

If you were an NFL quarterback, would you call it "team-sponsored looting" to pay the center a decent salary? Your vanity to the contrary, you would not have made it big without substantial support from society. Only subsistence farmers can truly say that the outside world has no claim on them. It sure sounds like your ego would not permit you to be a dirt farmer.
02:18 PM on 09/17/2011
Sigh. Actually I have a farm back in the states and do quite a bit of growing when I'm there for long enough to do so. Big organic orchard as well. Love it.

My point is this...how much is enough for you? If you add up local, state, and the proposed increase in the top tax bracket to 39 percent it adds up to just under a total 50% in a lot of states (more, in some). How many months should i work for free so that over 40 percent of the U.S. has to pay nothing in income tax? At that point, who am I really working for; the "evil corporate elite" or the 40 percent?
05:44 PM on 10/03/2011
Your thoughts regarding http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/god-and-economics.html would be appreciated.
01:49 AM on 09/17/2011
This is a lame article. Where is your solution...we are just going to decide to live in a better place? How? wish it so...make it so? wave a wand? We cannot control the sin of the world we live in, you Reverend should understand that. We can control only our response to the challenges we face. (and we really can control our responses, despite what the disease of the week folk claim) So if you do not want to be unemployed, get a job. It may not be a good job, nor the one you were hoping for...but there is NO shame in an honest days work. Talk about blame the victim. If only ya'll WISHED you lived in a world with no problems...ugh.
09:33 AM on 09/17/2011
I think you entirely missed the point of the article, while proving its basic premise: that WE have contributed to a society that is hostile, unforgiving of others, self-righteous, blinded to our own flaws while overly aware of others', The line "if you anre unemployed, get a job" just about sums up the whole problem--no understanding of, knowledge of, or sympathy for the plight of others, regardless of whether they "deserve" it or not. I doubt anyone who is unemployed is sitting around rejoicing in being out of work, despite the public's apparent wish to imagine the opposite. The "walk a mile in another's shoes" rubric has simply dropped out of our national conversation.
05:48 PM on 10/03/2011
A blog post at http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/god-and-economics.html might offer a few concepts for discussion. I would be grateful for your thoughts.
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12:34 AM on 09/17/2011
The theory of democracy would suggest that if our democracy is working well then we get the government we deserve. Political theory suggests that in a democracy those with wealth have a greater influence than those less wealthy. Since those who are wealthy already have more, that suggests they are the least interested in social change and the most interested in keeping things just the way they are.

For those reasons, our ancestors, again and again, tell us that people have the right to rebel. However, they also warn us about the danger of rebellion. Is it not both a political and a religious duty to organize non-violent resistance when those who govern us are, as in the case of the current SCOTUS and many state legislatures, arbitrary?

I am aware that Rev. Morales was recently found guilty and sentenced for participating in non-violent resistance to Ariizona's legal requirements for law enforcement to interrogate suspected illegal immigrants. In these dark days, it is good to have those who light a candle in the darkness.
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cadawa
10:07 PM on 09/16/2011
How about the top 2% controlling 95% of everything as a 'spiritual issue'?
08:22 PM on 09/16/2011
Thank you for this post! You are so right. There is just one problem, however. While you cannot legislate morality, you most certainly CAN govern with a moral imperative. Washington is absolutely not doing that now. Government's job (aside from supposedly representing the will of the People) is supposed to be (among other things) to promote the general welfare of the People. It says so. Right in the preamble to the Constitution. Our representatives are not living up to their responsibilities. The only thing concerning politicians right now is an election that is more than a year away, and their divisive, win-at-all-costs and damned with the other side attitude is costing the American people dearly. Washington doesn't care about broke, individual, non-contributing voters. And why should they? After Citizens United, they don't need the American voter anymore. They just need corporations with bottomless purses and then they won't ever have to worry about re-election ever again. This way, it doesn't matter if they don't legislate or represent the will of the people. The Congress of the United States doesn't have to worry about taking care of the people anymore, so they won't.

Citizens United, as well as the divisive and venomous political atmosphere in Washington has rendered our individual voices useless and non-influential. So, while your article is absolutely correct, and rightly points out a serious governing issue, I sadly don't think that the government cares anymore.
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David Kellemen
09:10 PM on 09/16/2011
I agree, this is a wonderful article. And I agree with most everything you've said, but would add a couple comments. I don't see that it is just our representatives who are acting without moral imperative and I think the writer was getting at this, too. We, as voters have put these people in office over and over, so we have chosen the unfortunate type of society we have right now. To support that I would also add the large number of people I see writing or cheering at debates (admittedly not a scientific method) who viciously denigrate the poor, the unemployed, those without insurance and state loudly that it is there own fault, that society should not 'carry them'. And as more of the country's wealth in concentrated in fewer and fewer people, many members of the middle class scream at any effort to rectify the situation, citing "redistribution of wealth" as if it were the most heinous act imaginable. This didn't happen by accident and it's not due solely to those in government. We all allowed this to happen, but how could we have?
09:26 PM on 09/16/2011
Sadly, I agree with you. A huge part of the problem is that so many voters are (regrettably) non-critical thinkers, and allow themselves to be buffaloed with bullsh*t rather than reading between the lines and being able to see and frame political debate impartially. I think that we owe each other the open, standing invitation to participate in political discourse and encourage each other to learn as much as possible about any and everything, be willing to admit that sometimes our thinking may be flawed, and then push ourselves and each other to keep the collective heat on our representatives and all of the government to maintain the collective good. I think not carrying the torch of responsible citizenship may be part of the reason we allowed this to happen. As for how the rest of it happens? It remains a mystery, but I think you are right on the money.
05:53 PM on 10/03/2011
A few interesting ideas might be located at http://blogspotthinker.blogspot.com/2011/09/god-and-economics.html.
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seanny53
Things fall apart, the center cannot hold
09:42 AM on 09/17/2011
You are so right. Time for a non-violent revolution. F&F.
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Ganapati
Don't you mess with my Wheel
04:58 PM on 09/16/2011
Finally someone connects these two issues so clearly!