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Rev. Richard Cizik

Rev. Richard Cizik

Posted: July 6, 2010 05:06 PM

Can Christians Live with Torture?

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The findings are shocking: evidence of the involvement of U.S. military and intelligence health professionals in performing experiments, without consent, on detainees in the custody of the U.S. following September 2001.

A report released this month by Physicians for Human Rights details cruel and degrading treatment of detainees that every person of faith should find deeply disturbing. Religious leaders of many faiths, representing the National Religious Campaign Against Torture, have come together to urge the government to create a Commission of Inquiry to investigate these charges and all U.S. torture practices for the last decade and to recommend safeguards to assure that torture will never happen again.

To the Christian, torture is always wrong. The alarming acts of human experimentation alleged in the report clearly and egregiously violate the Christian tenet that every human life is sacred. The sanctity and value of human life is a core theological conviction, one that appears throughout the Scripture.

As Evangelical Christians, our recognition of this moral dignity is fundamental and non-negotiable, even in times of conflict and war. We simply cannot say we are for the sanctity of human life while simultaneously denying those God-given rights as we experiment on human beings through the use of waterboarding, sleep deprivation, and other "enhanced" interrogation techniques.

But torture is not an abstract issue. To truly understand the gravity of these heinous offenses against the sanctity of human life and what response they require from people of faith, we sometimes need to hear the real-life stories.

Consider that of a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay who was deprived of sleep for more than 55 days, often doused with water or blasted with cold air to keep him awake. After weeks spent in delirious, shivering wakefulness, gravely ill from hypothermia, medical officers who had pledged to obey an ethical code that explicitly instructs them to "do no harm" strapped him to a chair, pumped him full of saline, brought him back from death -- and then sent him back to his interrogators.

Stories like this one are just the tip of the iceberg, gleaned from hundreds of cases in which individual lives have been damaged in cruel efforts to get information. If true, they evidence government participation in illegal, immoral experimentation that not only violates our Christian values but also clearly breaches federal law, including the War Crimes Act and regulations governing human subject research known as the "Common Rule." Such interrogation tactics also violate the legal and ethical protections afforded by international laws such as the Nuremburg Code and the Geneva Conventions, which govern research ethics principles for human experimentation and humanitarian treatment of prisoners. The act of turning detainees into research subjects in order to refine our torture techniques is so odious that it compels us to cry out for an investigation to determine whether war crimes or crimes against humanity have indeed been committed.

Yet another chilling story about the impact of torture hits even closer to home. Twenty-seven-year-old Alyssa Peterson, a devout Mormon, was one of the first female U.S. casualties in Iraq. Alyssa didn't die from enemy fire -- she committed suicide just days after refusing to continue to participate in the brutal interrogation techniques being used on naked detainees. The official probe of her death stated, "She did not know how to be two people; she ... could not be one person in the cage and another outside the wire."

Just as Alyssa Peterson couldn't be two people, we can't be two nations. We can't be a nation of laws that respects human dignity and a nation that sanctions torture.

Our religious principles, as Evangelical Christians, oblige us to oppose policies and practices that violate our religious values and our national ideals. It is our sad but necessary duty to call upon President Obama and Congress to establish a Commission of Inquiry to undertake a comprehensive investigation into the government's use of torture, including its use in medical experiments on detainees. Like all civilized countries, the U.S. is obligated to hold itself accountable under the U.N. Convention Against Torture.

All people of faith -- but especially Evangelical Christians -- understand there is such a thing as the spiritual health of a nation. If America is, as Alexis de Tocqueville once said, "a nation with the soul of a church," then it is absolutely essential that we exorcise torture and other experimental abuse from our souls and make amends by pursuing the steps required to ensure that U.S.-sponsored torture will never, ever, again be sanctioned or practiced.

 
 
 
The findings are shocking: evidence of the involvement of U.S. military and intelligence health professionals in performing experiments, without consent, on detainees in the custody of the U.S. follow...
The findings are shocking: evidence of the involvement of U.S. military and intelligence health professionals in performing experiments, without consent, on detainees in the custody of the U.S. follow...
 
 
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06:22 PM on 07/15/2010
"Can Christians Live With Torture"

Good question! Let's check the history books....

Yep, no problem, torture away!
03:15 PM on 07/14/2010
"All people of faith -- but especially Evangelical Christians -- understand there is such a thing as the spiritual health of a nation"

I am trying to understand the begging of the connection between Evangelical Christians and disapproval of torture.

Sounds to me like a "my religion is better than you" rant.
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R U Sirius
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10:16 AM on 07/13/2010
I don't personally remember a Bible verse in which Jesus says "Love your enemy, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven. ...But torture is okay, if you really, reeeeally need the information...."
08:12 AM on 07/13/2010
I am fully aware of the pathetic history of the church saying "OK" to this kind of barbarism. I am also full aware that it is reprehensible. It violates everything Jesus said...just one short example..."Love your enemies and do good to them..." Gospel of Matthew.
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CraigVale
07:01 AM on 07/12/2010
Christians can and do live with and accept torture as a way of life. Many reconcile passages of ancient scripture with modern day scenarios.One only needs to look at the Crusades or the inquisition to see the love affair the religious hierarchy had with tortuous practices. It's in their DNA and will remain there too!
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Mishal Zeera
04:53 AM on 07/12/2010
Historically, Christians and torture have been happily paired more than once, and on such a widespread scale. If this was 1700, Christianity would be virtually synonymous with torture in the minds of the non-Christians.
07:56 PM on 07/09/2010
Can Christians live with torture? Pfft. I am tortured every time they arrive, with their bibles and plastic smiles, to my doorstep.
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12:43 PM on 07/09/2010
Christ was tortured to death, in order to appease/mollify an angry god.

Of course Christians can live with torture. There is no Christianity without it.
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Asmodean1
Truth is only true if based on facts.
05:01 PM on 07/09/2010
The word Christ which is now used as though it were a surname is actually a title derived from the Greek Christos roughly meaning 'anointed' as in "oil is poured on your head"
I am not sure what reference you used to come up with the idea that Jesus was crucified to appease an angry god. He was betrayed for money. He was found guilty of sedition against the Roman (soon to be holy) Empire. It (plain old Roman Empire) became "holy" when it realized that by marketing a "popular slaves religion" that was gaining strenght, it could keep its control NOT through strenght of arms but by something new. A growing religious power base.
09:51 PM on 07/09/2010
Can you cite your source for "He was found guilty of sedition against the Roman (soon to be holy) Empire."
05:24 AM on 07/09/2010
Cant they live with it? Certainly. Christianity, has a long history of condoning and using torture. The inquisitions, the crusades, the wars of religion, the list of atrocities in the name of Jesus is legion. Our President Bush who authorized torture is a self avowed and devoted Christian, that didn't slow him down one bit though did it.

Should they live with it? Not if they live by the word of Jesus. No one should live with torture, regardless of their religious affiliation.
04:46 AM on 07/09/2010
After 200 years of the US not engaging in torture as a national policy (the instances that can be pointed out in our history were the acts of rogues or officers acting under the pressures of the battlefield, not from a policy decision at the Presidential level), one benighted misguided idiot undermined the longstanding moral highground of our country. Now it will take a century to restore it, if ever. I do favor a commission to look into it and prosecutions of any persons found to be involved in formulating the policy.

Of course, our resident Constitutional scholar in the White House has ruled out some prosecutions -- and he continues to utilize some of the techniques and policies of the Bush 2 Administration. So he might just be on the list of defendants, eventually. But prosecutions and a commission of inquiry may be the only way to wipe our slate sort of clean. It sickens me and makes me ashame that my government did ever this kind of thing. Unforgivable. Worse, unnecessary.
11:08 AM on 07/09/2010
A quick read for people to get an idea of how much they DON'T know about "christians" is "Just War Doctrine" on the Wikipedia internet site.

Out of all the head games launched in the past decade in USA, the censorship of sanity, basically, the ultimate LEGAL proof that sadistic nihilists are having another go at consuming civilization is as you note above. Nothing to do with "religion", in the final analysis. It's criminal. Period.

MANY powerful-in-spirit people are dedicated to making sure this criminality does not get noised out by a rapid series of inane twits to get it off the main page of history, so to speak. How's that phrase go, "With God all things are possible?".
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ddanimal
01:29 AM on 07/09/2010
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"To the Christian, torture is always wrong."

Oh really? Bush was a christian, and he is the person most responsible for bringing torture back to the US. Bush also had legions of Christian fanatic supporters. Most christians in the US seem to think that torture is a good idea.
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davyd56
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01:08 AM on 07/09/2010
Of course they can...they believe in circumcision...that's torture too and they LOVE that one.

Archaic thinking at its best.
09:28 AM on 07/09/2010
Talk to a circumcised torture victim about equating circumcision with torture. Wonder what they'd say about that one.
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davyd56
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11:01 AM on 07/09/2010
Say what you will, circumcision is torture to a new boy child the first few hours of their existence and they are already cutting on his privates...it is torture...PERIOD!
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Mishal Zeera
04:55 AM on 07/12/2010
Circumcision is superstitious nonsense!
11:22 PM on 07/08/2010
In answer to the question posed in the title, yes, of course they can. Until fairly recently, the legitimacy of torturing people for various reasons had been accepted for thousands of years. For example, my understanding is that testimony of slaves in classical Greece, for example, was not admissible unless it was obtained by torture, at that time such testimony was considered more, not less, reliable, than freely given testimony.

For the great majority of the time Christianity has been in existence, torture was a common, recognized action in judicial proceedings and during war. That does not mean there were not voices raised against it. But prevailing sentiment was that it was an acceptable thing.

So if Christians have "lived with" torture for nearly two thousand years, its existence obviously does not necessarily present a tremendous conflict with being a Christian.

Even today, there are substantial numbers of people in this Country, maybe a majority, who would support torture under particular circumstances. Many such people are Christians.

So, yeah, Christians can find torture unobjectionable.
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gunthli
09:46 PM on 07/08/2010
I don't know how they can either look the other way or condone what was done. I don't think that Jesus would approve at all. It is a complete dichotomy of their faith.
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PMJ79
10:08 PM on 07/08/2010
It *IS* a complete dichotomy of faith. It's also a frightening display of cognitive dissonance. But political leaders have always been letting us down in one way or another. Put your faith in man and this is what happens.
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07:40 PM on 07/08/2010
In answer to the question posed by the title: it appears they already have not only lived with it, but authorized and condoned it.
JWoode
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11:31 PM on 07/08/2010
and perfected it