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A Child Can't Be Raised by a System... or a Court

Posted: 02/15/2012 11:43 am

Last week I went down to the Edelman Children's Court, which is the court for dependency cases in Los Angeles County. I spoke to a lawyer from the Children's Law Center (CLC), the people who represent almost every child in the foster care system, and was permitted to observe the proceedings in a couple of the courtrooms.

CLC has approximately 120 attorneys. The average caseload size is over 200 children each. Whew! The lawyers are often the most consistent person in a child's life, as social workers change frequently and kids are repeatedly moved from one placement to another.

The hearings I observed were review hearings. These children had been removed from their homes because of abuse or neglect and taken into foster care at least six months earlier. Their cases were ongoing. This is standard procedure, a follow up, to see if parents were taking the necessary, mandated steps to enable their children to return home, such as drug and alcohol rehab classes, anger management classes, or finding a stable place to live.

The judges were deciding if a child could return home, or if a parent would be allowed to visit their children, how often, for how many hours a week, and where.

The third floor waiting area, which is the size of a train station, was filled.

Mothers, fathers, uncles, cousins, friends, and kids of every age, talking, playing games, doing homework, chasing each other, doing anything to fill up the time till their case was heard. Many had 2 hour bus rides to get there and had to be present all day. This was an average day at Children's Court where each of the 20 judges hears 20 to 30 cases a day.

The court proceedings themselves were low key and intimidating at the same time, despite the presence of stuffed animals and Star Wars posters. The cases take on average 10 to 20 minutes. The long table facing the bench is crowded with the children and their lawyer or lawyers, the parent or parents and their lawyers, an interpreter if necessary, the lawyer for the Dept of Children's Services, and behind them the social workers involved in the case.

There wasn't a lot of drama. It was all remarkably unremarkable, especially when you think that each decision will hugely affect a child's life and a family's future.

At this moment there are 25,000 kids in foster care in Los Angeles County. I know that children are very resilient and find ways to adjust to all sorts of things, but it's truly sad to see great numbers of children jostling in and out of court like it was just another day.

I was invited back to visit Judge Marguerite Downing in her chambers. Judge Downing is a confident, down to earth woman, with years of experience as a lawyer for juveniles and a judge. She seems quite astute at sizing up the people who come before her. She told me that she thought that many of the families she sees have problems that come and go. Most have other family members who could step in to care for the children when they are taken from their homes, and that this would be the best situation for these kids. The problem is that very often the regulations for fostering a child are too tough to be met by the family... for example, a house that doesn't have the required amount of space. So the kids end up in foster homes with unfamiliar people, separated from their siblings and away from relatives who know them. Often parents are mandated to take classes they can't afford and have no way of getting to.

Even visitation can be tough... for example, in a hearing I watched, the Dept of Children's Services recommended that the father and the mother be allowed to have unsupervised visits with their children at separate times, in a neutral setting, for three hours a week each. This particular mother didn't drive. Her husband was her ride. Their 4 children were not living together. They were placed with different families in neighborhoods far from where the parents lived. The judge questioned how it would be possible to continue trying to parent the children with these restrictions. She ruled that the parents could visit together in a neutral setting for 6 hours a week, for now. Another hearing was scheduled in 6 months time.

There's a big controversy over Children's Court's presiding judge, Michael Nash's recent decision to open the courtrooms to the media, unless a compelling case is made to close it in the best interest of the child or children involved. Some people like this decision because they say it will bring more accountability to the courts and the Child Welfare system, while some are against it on the grounds that it opens the lives of children who have already suffered mistreatment to further humiliation and is an invasion of their privacy.

I don't know yet which side I'm on, or if there is even a clear-cut yes or no answer. I just know it's pretty damn awful that such a huge population of children spend so much time in court and it doesn't even seem foreign to them. This shouldn't be.

California has a responsibility to protect its children, so we have this system set up to do that. It's an enormous system with a huge amount of people employed in service of it, and tons of rules and regulations designed to make everyone accountable. But, as we all know, a child can't be raised by a system.

The most important element of the foster care system is getting kids out of foster care and into a permanent placement so they don't have to spend their entire childhoods in courtrooms, wondering if they will ever have a place to call home.

Today I'm introducing Coty, a 16-year-old, from San Bernardino County. He's an articulate, empathetic boy who expresses himself through art and wants to be a lawyer. Coty is looking for a permanent home.


You can learn more about the children featured in these films and find more information about foster care adoption at ChildrensActionNetwork.org or by calling 800-525-6789.

 
Last week I went down to the Edelman Children's Court, which is the court for dependency cases in Los Angeles County. I spoke to a lawyer from the Children's Law Center (CLC), the people who represent...
Last week I went down to the Edelman Children's Court, which is the court for dependency cases in Los Angeles County. I spoke to a lawyer from the Children's Law Center (CLC), the people who represent...
 
 
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01:49 AM on 03/13/2012
Regarding CLC, my kids had five different CLC attorneys over three years in Dep Court. That is inexcusable. Oh yeah, sure, their shared case notes. But it seems that the last attorney had NO CLUE of my kids repeated statements in open court to the Commissioner and to their CLC attorney(s) during the first year that they wanted to live with their father. One of their CLC Attorneys went to work for the opposition - the DCFS County Counsel!!!! And none of these so called children's attorneys investigated why my kids suddenly changed their minds after one year in just one week not to come home.?! CAN YOU SAY STATE CONTRACT? Go against the system - "The Beast as DCFS and the Dep Court attorneys call their own system - no more mufti million dollar contacts to fund 30 attorneys?
01:36 AM on 03/13/2012
DCFS bills the Feds Title IVe roughly $30,000 per kid per month. My kids told the judge in open court they wanted to live with their Father after having been seized away from their mother who had a long history of referrals and of making false allegations against me. DCFS keep my six younger kids with their MOM for 2 1/2 years despite her problematic history and my protests. So DCFS stalled for three years making up allegations against me and then dropping them. The foster mother turned my kids against me and their three older siblings. DCFS and the foster parent get PAID for every month they keep the kids in the system. THIS WHOLE CORRUPT SYSTEM IS A MASSIVE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. DCFS employees have NO independent oversight for civil and criminal abuses. Formal complaints are literally buried. Dependency Court and yes, even CLC attorneys who ignore or fail to uncover these abuses. Why, they have a BIG CONTRACT to protect. Two of six kids in foster care were physically assaulted while in foster care. DCFS failed to report the foster mother to the police, the DA, no medical exam or photographs. They sent a investigator to interview my kids in FRONT OF THE FOSTER MOTHER WHO ASSAULTED ONE OF MY KIDS!!!!! They hid the incident from me for sixth months. The CSW, her SCSW and their ARA refused to see me over this incident.
01:26 AM on 03/13/2012
Dear Rhea

There are children that need protection from abuse in their homes. But this massive for profit government agency and the Dependency Court does not observe Constitutional or Civil rights of the parents or even the children themselves. Most seizures (detentions) are based upon anonymous calls - social workers have too much discretionary power to take children without a search warrant - parents are guilty before being proven innocent in Dep Court administrative law. DCFS can seize children even without actual physical proof of abuse CSWs and SCSWs can and do permit perjry and falsify allegations and submit false documentation to court. DCFS makes wild accusations of abuse without presenting physical evidence in court and they do not ever file felony child abuse charges with the police or DA and yet they still accuse parents of physical abuse in Dep Court and after two or three years, they terminate parental rights without a real trial based on evidence. The Dep Curt Commissioners almost never challenge DCFS to present facts or evidence and when parents attempt to call witnesses or submit exculpatory evidence, the courts more often then not deny it. LADL appointed attorneys for parents and CLC attorneys for the children handle 400-500 cases each. It is total INEFFECTUAL COUNSEL. Both LADL and CLC attorneys meet their clients for 5 minutes before going to a detention hearing or follow up hearings which are six months apart.
02:46 PM on 02/21/2012
Thank you Rhea for writing this article and trying to bring more attention to the situation for foster youth in the courts. I especially appreciate the video you have of Coty included. I hope one of these commenters adopts him.

Sure, we all can't be foster parents or volunteer hands-on, so I feel bad that folks are giving you flack for not doing so. I think your work is honorable b/c you are willing to step outside your world and see the lives of others and then write about them in interactive ways for Huffington Post. Sadly, foster youth aren't spoken about at the kitchen table and we need more articles from folks outside the system like yourself. Thank you for being an advocate.
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09:09 PM on 02/19/2012
The saddest part of all about the system set up to protect children is that it instantly became a business - all about money, not kids. The state gets so much money for each child they take into the system and the state doesn't have to return money not used for that child. Instead the state is allowed to keep the unused money and supplement its budget for other matters. All moneys not spent for the support of the children should be returned to the federal government.

The second horror of the system is that other family members who are suitable for parenting the children are not allowed to have the children and be paid for their services. Many relatives would love to take in their young relatives but cannot afford to rear the children. If utilized, this act of kindness would save the children emotionally and enable them to continue their bond with their relatives. If you have ever been around a detached, unbonded child you cannot possibly know how scary that is and what that child is capable of doing.

The third major problem with the system is the fact that teens are included in the system and teens become smart quickly. They learn to use Children's Services to fight against the parent's authority. When children have wonderful parents and then as teen-agers suddenly turn on their parent's authority, common sense should cause the system to back away. Overhall the system to exclude teens.
07:42 PM on 02/20/2012
"The third major problem with the system is the fact that teens are included in the system and teens become smart quickly. They learn to use Children's Services to fight against the parent's authority. When children have wonderful parents and then as teen-agers suddenly turn on their parent's authority, common sense should cause the system to back away. Overall the system to exclude teens. "

Wow! You might want to do come volunteer work at your local children's home if you really believe this. Most of the kids in the system would gladly submit to "the parent's authority" to get out of the system even if that authority is backed up with abuse.
08:13 PM on 02/19/2012
Thank you, Rhea. You're one of the few big-name activists who focuses on foster children and the system, which is so in need of changes. I can't find the words to say how much this means.
06:15 PM on 02/19/2012
One of the biggest problems with our system in California is that it protects the rights of adults over that of the children. Children that have been physically and verbally abused, lived in horrendous conditions, have parents that are longtime drug addicts and alcoholics are continually placed back in those situations. WHY? Money! Ms. Pearlman, bring to light the amount of money spent in the social justice system, on social workers, lawyers, etc. placing these kids in foster care. Wouldn't it make more sense to give foster parents more money to care for the needs (housing, food, clothing, counseling) that is required to raise the children in a household where at least one of the parents could afford to stay home and parent? Instead most of the money goes to the bureauacracy of the system. IT'S WRONG! Foster care is NOT the big money making venture people think it is. Next, custody should be taken from parents if they don't shape up in a short amount of time and the kids placed for adoption, allowing them a chance at having a family, before they're to old to have anyone take them. It's sad, but true. Also, screen all potential foster parents and adoptive parents better, and do not allow any kid in a household that has anyone, even a relative that visits, that has a history of child abuse. PUT OUR TAX DOLLARS ON CHILDREN, NOT ALL THIS OTHER CRAP!
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Sharon Hunt
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09:13 PM on 02/19/2012
sorry, typical GOP response. You have to pay judges and social workers. I'm sure cuts could be made here and there, but there is just NO MONEY ANYWHERE...the GOP will surely see to it (if they get into office) the the rich will continue to get richer. People work, they need to be paid. BIRTH CONTROL needs to be made available so that children are not brought into this world on the "spur of the moment". Doing any of this is not easy. There is no extreme right way or wrong way. I just know that it is not as simple as doing what you say.
11:38 AM on 02/19/2012
I think foster kids should be raised in a neighborhood where their schools are located like any other kid on the block. They should always be welcomed back by a loving caregivers for family events even if they've left the nest. The loving arms of the entire community should rally around these families and embrace these children as their own. Children do not fail when they have an army of supportive caregivers behind them. As a nation, we need to protect our most vulnerable and do whatever it takes to help them make sense of their lives.
03:27 AM on 02/19/2012
The greatest weakness in our country today is our inability to raise our children well. The economic bubbles and income inequality is much more fixable than the trends that we are exhibiting in raising our children. It is difficult to envision how we can care for these foster children in a country where most marraiges end in divorce and more and more children are born out of wedlock in the first place. I am not trying to sound like a Puritan but having been raised in a stable family, I am choosing the same for my children. It is my first through tenth priority. Everything else is eleventhdary.
01:43 AM on 02/19/2012
Spending free afternoon watching people working to help children doesn't make you an advocate or protector of children.

Stepping up and adopting kids does.
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11:46 PM on 02/18/2012
If you really want to understand the problem, and if you really want to know what the real problem is, and if you really want to help kids, then get off the couch and volunteer to be a CASA.

California only removes children from their parents when their is evidence of abuse or neglect. There must be actual physical or sever emotional damage that can be demonstrated to the court to remove a child for more than the time it takes to have a hearing (less than a week).

The number one objective of the court, and the purpose of foster homes today, is reunification of the child with their parents. But the parents must prove they are capable of providing a basic level of support and safety for the child. Basic support and nothing more.

The reality is that kids removed from their homes are removed because they are in eminent danger. The parents are almost always poor, are often drug or alcohol abusers, may be child abusers, and may be going to prison. Even if the parents are destitute living on the street, the court will not take the children into custody, unless they see dangerous neglect.

And yes, there are a lot of kids in dependency court in California. And as poverty increases, the number of kids in the programs increase almost directly.
06:17 PM on 02/19/2012
Parents should be given far less time to pull their lives together to allow children to have a home, otherwise, they should be allowed to be adopted and start anew.
11:38 AM on 02/21/2012
I would agree if we all lived in fantasyland but the reality of the situation is that there are VERY FEW people willing to adopt an older pre teen and even fewer willing to adopt a teenager. Don't believe me, take a look at www.adoptuskidskids.com and you will notice several hundred children that are begging to be adopted. Sometimes there are other family members available to step in but many times there is no one. Surprisingly I agree with screenName05, "If you really want to understand the problem, and if you really want to know what the real problem is, and if you really want to help kids, then get off the couch and volunteer to be a CASA."
03:54 PM on 03/22/2012
Evidence? Have you been to Dependency Court Administrative (Unconstitutional) law courts. No, they won't let you - even with the supposedly new reforms to allow family and reporters to sit in hearings, which never happens because County Counsel of Minors Counsel can block them with out real cause. It's a joke. NO EVIDENCE is actually presented in most cases. It is just innuendo filtered through DCFS/County Counsel and self interested and UNACCOUNTABLE social workers who serve as prosecutor, jury and judges and go by 'preponderance' of evidence which is virtually NON EXISTENT, again in most cases. Parents are blocked from calling witnesses and presenting exculpatory evidence routinely by the court commissioners. It's a Sham court for the most part. So how would you know what really goes on inside these Fascists courts.
10:29 PM on 02/17/2012
Back in 19060 , the birth control pill had not been invented but the rate of illegitimate births was about 5% . Today there are many ways to avoid pregnancy but the rate of illegitimate birth is through the roof . Girls , and the boys or men that get them pregnant, know that they dont have to pay for the children they produce so they don't bother with birth control or abstinence . We should make life on welfare more uncomfortable.
02:39 AM on 02/19/2012
Life on welfare already is uncomfortable. I know, I and my family had to rely on it for about a year or so right after my divorce. It involves going into the welfare office every three months, you make an appointment, but you still wait for several hours. You have to prove how poor you are, so you have to gather documentation - humiliatingly asking friends or family to fill out forms on your behalf, and, in my case, also asking your employer to fill out a form, too. I had to take time off of work, which meant I missed out on a valuable day's pay, and because I was employed -even though it was painfully obvious that the paychecks were not covering our most basic bills (no credit cards, no loans, no cable bills, no cell phone bills, no internet), I didn't qualify for anything more than food stamps, so I still had to go back to family and explain why I was asking to borrow money right after asking for their help in filling out welfare forms. Naturally, the first moment I could scrape by without assistance, we dropped out of the system ... not that I would have stayed on the roles for one second longer than necessary, as I was so humiliated to find myself needing to ask for help to begin with.
03:10 AM on 02/19/2012
Good for you Phyllis but I think that you are the exception not the rule. Many people are not ashamed to be on welfare and try to obtain and perpetuate every type of handout that they can receive. It is human nature (not the good type) for people that are down on their luck to think that they deserve something but the reality is that only the individual's personal dignity counts in the end. You only get that by being strong for your family and yourself.
06:19 PM on 02/19/2012
Children that are abused don't just come from homes where the parents are on welfare, but from across the economic spectrum. I know kids of bank presidents, lawyers, doctors, etc. that have been abused by their wealthy parents, and kids with families on welfare that are the most loved kids in the world, and well adjusted. This isn't about money. it's about making our kids a priority in our lives, and doing what is necessary to be a responsible parent!
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09:10 AM on 02/17/2012
and a lot of those foster homes are terrible. with the foster parent of the house running it like a business to pocket as much of the money per head they get as possible.
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12:01 AM on 02/19/2012
Stop watching television and movies, and get out there and get involved in the real world. Foster homes in California are not the financial enterprises that most poorly informed people think. A foster home gets $600 a month to support a child, and is limited to 6 children in a home. Almost no home actually has more than 3 or 4 kids. That means each child receives approximately $7200 a year in support, or a family with 4 kids get a little over $28,000 a year.

That puts them well below the poverty level.

Foster homes in California are monitored by both the Child Welfare Services and CASA (Court Appointed Special Advocates - one per child). If the child is mistreated or neglected in any manner they are moved instantly.

There are a lot of very good people trying to make this system work, and they frankly don't need the comments of a bunch of poorly informed fools.
07:53 PM on 02/20/2012
You are right foster parents there is no profit in foster care. The real money is made by the people who run the group homes. Some group home is CA get 30K+ per year, per child. The problem is that relatively few foster parents are willing to take a older pre teen or a teen and the only option left is to send them to a group home. BTW I was a CASA for several years and I know for a fact that there will never be 1 CASA per child, there are not enough people willing and able to step up to the plate.
06:20 PM on 02/19/2012
There is no big money in foster care, but there should be more money for families that take in foster kids. yes, some of the big group homes take in big money, and that's one of the things that need fixed, kids should go to families, not businesses.
01:51 PM on 02/16/2012
Most of the time, these parents are FALSLY accused, just so states can get more money from the government! Most kids who actually are abused & neglected are ignored & the system knowingly & willfully allows it to continue, especially if the parents are rich, Black, or Hispanic. They should shut down CPS/DHS & all companies associated with them & let parents raise kids as they see fit. The states have no rights to interfere in most cases under the 14th Amendment.
09:02 PM on 02/16/2012
Very true, minalmine. I did everything to protect my daughter from abuse--refrained from consuming harmful chemicals while I was pregnant, which included caffeine, artificial colors, flavors and preservatives, and I had read nearly every parenting and child psychology book on rearing an emotionally healthy child. My home was baby-proofed, clean, bright and well-cared for. I always hugged, encouraged, was always patient and kind and loving, and still I was accused of child abuse because I wouldn't allow my daughter to watch the news on TV (the child psychology counselor reported). We were separated for 10 years. During this time, my daughter had attempted suicide 3 times and now, at 23, she has been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. Shame on CPS and the State of California!!!!
10:44 PM on 02/16/2012
how did you get through it?! I ask because my kids were taken from me after an "immunization" nearly killed one of the. It was "unfounded" over 6 months ago, & they still won't give them back. I'm having a hard time with this. I grew up in the state I live in. I was abused & neglected & the state knew. They did nothing to stop it. This is why I think they should all be shut down - one less taxpayer dollar waste.
06:24 PM on 02/19/2012
You're right, the state should stay out of it, and allow other relatives, etc., to deal with the offenders, and the situation! There are so many kids being abused by drug addicted parents, in all socio economic conditions, don't fool yourself and think it only happens in a specific community... that's a total falsehood. I personally have witnessed a highly regarded cancer specialist hit her little 3 year old daughter with a shoe, and yes, I reported it! I've also known instances of abuse by other professionals, so please... broaden your knowlege.
11:29 AM on 02/16/2012
Thanks for your work with this Rhea. The article is a great read, an eye opener. What a mess for these poor children. My heart breaks for them.