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No, Rep. West, That's Not How We Speak in the Military

Posted: 07/22/11 05:59 PM ET

It shouldn't be any surprise to anyone that Rep. Allen West (R-FL) went on an unhinged tirade against Representative Debbie Wasserman Shultz this week, merely for doing her job as a member of Congress and debating West on the budget. The Congressman has a history of being little more than a bully. For example, on his 2010 campaign, West hired a criminal motorcycle gang that had been indicted by the FBI for violent racketeering and attempted murder to preform security for campaign events. And of course, who can forget West's claim to tea party fame, the fact that he tortured a detained Iraqi police officer:

Arriving at the interrogation room, West approached Hamoodi, took out his gun, and chambered a round. He placed it in his lap with the gun barrel facing Hamoodi. "I had drawn out my pistol as a means of conveying a threat to him for the seriousness of wanting the information," West told investigators.

Hamoodi said that after West's arrival, "a soldier pulled his shirt over his head, and numerous others began to punch him in the chest." The beating bruised his ribs, said Hamoodi, but those bruises had healed in the month that passed before he met with investigators.

Said West: "Yes, there had been sporadic body punches and shoving to the individual, which I witnessed but did not allow to get too brutal."

Hamoodi still didn't give West or the soldiers the information they wanted, either because he wasn't part of the assassination plot or because he was being an uncooperative witness.

West ordered Hamoodi out of the interrogation room and took him outside the facility, where Hamoodi says West pointed to six soldiers who were standing in line with their weapons in hand. Through the Egyptian translator, West told Hamoodi: "If you don't talk, they will kill you."

When that didn't work, West admitted to pushing Hamoodi's head into a clearing barrel full of sand, which is typically used for clearing weapons. West then put his gun into the same barrel, near Hamoodi's head and fired.

"In my anger I do not know if I fired two shots in to the barrel or one into the air and another into the barrel," said West in his sworn statement.

Clearly, when we look at Allen West's record, the fact that an extremist reactionary is reacting in an extreme manner is kind of a "Dog Bites Man" story.

But when the story morphs into West disgracing the military that I served in and love, that's when I have a problem:

Interestingly enough, when you first interviewed me back when I was a candidate, you referred to me as a military man. There are certain ways that we speak in the military. I guess I haven't learned the DC-insider talk.

Let's be clear: the sexist and disrespectful language West directed at a colleague is incompatible with military service. There is not one officer worth his or her salt that would refer to a peer as "vile, unprofessional ,and despicable". If an Army leader were to criticize another's performance, that leader would criticize them as a Soldier, not levy the insult that the individual is not "a lady". Soldiers are Soldiers, and the same is true of members of Congress.

To take it a step further, to refer to Wasserman Shultz as West's "peer" is rather generous to Rep. West. West is a freshman lawmaker representing a marginal district where he is likely to be beaten in 2012. Wasserman Shultz is not only a member of her party's leadership in the House, serving as Chief Deputy Whip, but also serves at Chair of the Democratic National Committee. Not to mention that Wasseman Shultz is actually West's representative in Congress.

That's right. West doesn't even live in his own district. He's a constituent of Rep. Debbie Wasserman Shultz. This is more like Private Pyle telling General Patton to pound sand than pecking order peers having a disagreement.

Now certainly, we say things in the military that you wouldn't repeat in church or in front of your grandmother. As a noncommissioned officer in the 82nd Airborne Division, I dressed down my share of subordinates (which, of course, is not analogous to West's tirade), but a leader attacks the work performance, not the Soldier. It's no surprise, however, given the circumstances surrounding West's military discharge, that he lacks many of the qualities of a good leader.

One of those qualities is respect, and it is taught to all Soldiers, not just leaders. In fact, respect is one of the seven Army Values that all Soldiers are taught within the first days of Basic Training:

Treat people as they should be treated. In the Soldier's Code, we pledge to "treat others with dignity and respect while expecting others to do the same." Respect is what allows us to appreciate the best in other people. Respect is trusting that all people have done their jobs and fulfilled their duty. And self-respect is a vital ingredient with the Army value of respect, which results from knowing you have put forth your best effort. The Army is one team and each of us has something to contribute.

Clearly, this is a value that eluded West when we was supervising the torture of a detainee in Iraq, as well as torturing him personally, and continues to elude him as he serves in the United States Congress.

And really, being disrespectful in the United States Congress is fine with me. If we starting booting all the disrespectful members in that institution we'd severely reduce it's population. But when Allen West asserts that he learned disrespect from the Army, he is disgracing every Veteran and currently serving member of that honorable institution.

I won't stand for such disgrace, and neither should anyone else who has worn the uniform of our country.

No, Allen West, that's not how we talk in the military. If you aren't going to apologize to your Congresswoman, you should at least apologize to the brave men and women you insulted with your pitiful excuse.

 

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BlueBird55
Love expands to meet demands.
08:06 AM on 07/25/2011
The republican party of today not only attracts, but embraces, a certain level of person whose characters and traits identify them as despicable people. It is the anger and hate and fear that the right so totally owns today that people like West feed into.

From what I can tell according to the posts on HP, all republicans are broke, are without jobs, are without any hope of gaining a job, have lost their 401s, can never retire, can't afford to eat, are frightened of the debt, are frightened of terrorists, are frightened of the Democrats and so they are all mad, mad, mad! They are fearful and frightened and they cling to their guns as a way to feel safe from the unnamed and unknown boogeyman that lurks around every tree and every corner.

They so obviously lead such desperate and despair-filled lives. It must be very hard to be a republican, to have no hope for tomorrow without having someone to hate and blame for their sorry little lives. West feeds into that desperation and despair perfectly.
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atravelinturtle
insideofadog,it'stoodarktoread
09:10 PM on 07/24/2011
Thank you, Richard Allen Smith, for this essay. I honor you and all those in our military and veterans. You, I believe; west, not so much. All of us need to hear your words. Thank you.
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janalyce
07:34 PM on 07/24/2011
West's idea of a "lady" is someone who walks five paces behind a man, hands folded, head bowed, mouth shut.

So sorry that all women don't fit your stereotype, Congressman. And that this fact makes you act like a two-year old having a temper tantrum.
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
02:11 PM on 07/24/2011
Well done... But I suspect Rep West isn't listening and doesn't want to hear.
01:59 PM on 07/24/2011
Sir did you even serve he took the cowards way out he did not face the charges he ran instead he did not face the emeny in combat but hogtied person who could not fight back not a hero
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Edward Goodwin
Hey! I'm walk'n here!
01:45 PM on 07/24/2011
People say stupid and harmful things all the time. Sometimes public figures do so in a public forum. Mr West is a case in point. That he sees no reason to apologize says much about his character, or lack thereof. Mr West is happy being Mr West. He'll no doubt go on being his lovable self long after he's voted out of office.

But the people who are bending over backward to support him are doing a grave dis-service to their party. They are looking at the political field and thinking that they dare not concede an inch of territory to the "enemy." Anyone standing in opposition to the Democrats must be supported to the hilt. Particularly if the label "Tea Party" has been stapled to their foreheads.

This is going to cost the Republicans dearly. Americans are looking for leaders and problem solvers. The elections of 2010 were about frustration over problems being ignored. The Tea Party rode that wave and are now delivering anything but solutions. People are seeing that the party of “Hell,No” doesn't solve problems, it creates crisis.

Mr West is the antithesis of the pragmatic problem solver. He,and others like him, will not check themselves. If the Republican Party will not do so, independent voters will. The Republican Party would do well to remember that they that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind.
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ESerafina42
Abandoned by wolves, raised by Republicans.
09:24 AM on 07/24/2011
West doesn't even live in his own district. He's a constituent of Rep. Debbie Wasserman Shultz.
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Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't living in the district you represent (even if it's just your "official" residence) some sort of requirement?
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KaAp
10:07 AM on 07/24/2011
Don't worry about that he will be defeated this round. People in Broward and Palm Beach will get out to vote this time ... and yes he does live in her district. But, he is unconcerned with that (just like he is unconcerned about paying his taxes or home-owners association dues). Oh the things this man has said and done goes beyond anything I have ever seen or heard in my entire life.
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e-cat
limit the litters, neuter your critters
02:55 PM on 07/24/2011
Apparently Florida does not make residence a requirement of representing a district.
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murphthesurf3
Progressive: Like Ike and Clinton!
09:01 AM on 07/24/2011
How is it that West escaped court martial? I know he took early retirement and a letter of rebuke but it sure looks like he deserved a lot more.

Some folks never learn.
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KaAp
10:12 AM on 07/24/2011
The Army concluded that his actions were criminal and that "his crimes merit a court-martial." But, the army decided to let him pay a fine and resign his commission ...
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murphthesurf3
Progressive: Like Ike and Clinton!
10:35 AM on 07/24/2011
Which takes me back to my basic question. How come the military let him slide?

And despite this he has not learned.
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abhorson
in favor of legalized bar fighting
02:19 AM on 07/24/2011
"we don't speak that way in the military" -- should be modified -- "we don't speak that way in the military in front of cameras" ...

come on ? been in any conflict smithy ? been parachuted in a jungle in central america to arrange landing strips, logistics and training - for months at a time - and didn't "speak that way" ??

never witnessed a fellow soldier being held by two bigger ones while a med, cursing his head off, was "cleaning out" his fellow soldier's indiscretion from a fling with a mamacita while sneaking off-base middle of the night ?

what is this ? Obama's vision of a robot-army, non-humanoids speaking politically correct and carrying a copy of the Geneva Convention in their pockets - winning "hearts and minds" ?
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sedc72
4th Gen. Vet., DC Native
06:12 AM on 07/24/2011
So, when did you serve, since you appear to have common knowledge?
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abhorson
in favor of legalized bar fighting
05:43 AM on 07/25/2011
Lee? is that you ?? 80's ...
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
02:16 PM on 07/24/2011
Not robots but service people who live to a higher standard. The fact that some don't doesn't mean the others have to lower themselves. And yes, the Geneva Convention! That someone elects to ignore it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You obviously have a problem with the CMJ. I hope you're not active duty.
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abhorson
in favor of legalized bar fighting
05:49 AM on 07/25/2011
I'm not... but the kids nowadays are MUCH LESS disciplined (esp reg army/marines) ... politicians draft documents for politics sake ... media feeds it down gullible throats... gullible throats go on blogs and on tv ... gullible throats end up thinking they KNOW what they're talking about.

Geneva convention doesn't apply in the jungle (or the desert, or mountains for that matter) when bullets (etc) are flying around. Politicians use Geneva Convention to blame other side and when caught, they sacrifice a few of their own.
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sedc72
4th Gen. Vet., DC Native
12:10 AM on 07/24/2011
To those of you who are supportive of west's comments (no, I will not address him with ANY respect because he has NOT EARNED IT!), let me ask you - if the lady in question was YOUR wife/daughter/sister/aunt/grandmother/etc., would it be alright for him to say what he said? If you cannot answer the question with a 'yes', then what those it say about YOU?
bcunnin679
Political Correctness, the enemy of free speech
10:12 PM on 07/23/2011
Allen West the Republican equivalent of Alan Grayson
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glenn113
12:45 AM on 07/24/2011
I hate to agree but you have a point there.
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murphthesurf3
Progressive: Like Ike and Clinton!
09:00 AM on 07/24/2011
Sorry, Grayson's comments are sharp, acerbic, witty and policy oriented.

Comparison does not work.
bcunnin679
Political Correctness, the enemy of free speech
09:26 AM on 07/24/2011
That is why I thank God that in this country we can have differing opinions without fear of reprisal from government.I find Grayson to be rude and crude, just like many talking heads on both sides, both in Congress and the airwaves.
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quillerm
06:56 PM on 07/23/2011
I like how this story is peppered with allegations of torture, it's wonderful to see how leftists operate in their treatment of our military members. No consideration is made of the circumstances leading up to the interrogation or the fact it was a War time event. It's like trying to read people their Miranda rights while under fire.
07:25 PM on 07/23/2011
Given that the author is a military member, and that the allegations of torture were made by the Military itself, which was well aware of the circumstances of what occurred, perhaps you need to take yourself to task. You're the one disrespecting both the military (which knew that what he did was wrong, violated it's rules and put soldiers in danger) and military members with your ridiculous comments.

It's amusing to see how completely your own hypocrisy eludes you as you bash one vet for correctly pointing out the misbehavior (as labelled by the military itself) of another on nothing more than partisan ideology.
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KaAp
10:36 PM on 07/23/2011
Given that the disciplinary action against West was ordered by General Raymond Odierno, commander of the Fourth Infantry Division. I suggest that quillerm listen to his precise words West "disobeyed laws, ignored orders ... and mortgaged future discipline in his unit. Without discipline, there is no trust, no cohesion, and no higher purpose for which we fight."
Indeed, the military tribunal hearing West's case stated "his crimes merit a court-martial" however they decided against doing so if he resigned and paid a fine.
08:41 PM on 07/23/2011
More like West's admission of torture. Just because you and him lack the basic ability to understand the Laws of Armed Conflict does not make what he did legal.

How he even got away with his actions, which triggered his retirement, is a signal of what is wrong with today's military.
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blknightowl
Tired of the Crazies
07:18 AM on 07/24/2011
He did not "retire." He was held for a tribunal. He was asked to resign his commission or face charges. He chose to resign and paid a large fine rather than face the charges that were witnessed and he confessed to.
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ProgressiveRG
Govt is us collectively caring for each other
05:30 PM on 07/23/2011
Thank you Mr. Allen for giving us a military perspective on West's embarassing behavior. It is hard to believe that there are people who would defend his behavior, but he plays to an angry hateful group, as can be seen from the posts here. His supporters spread lies, and their hate obviscates their ability to accept fact. West does not represent his constituency and will be gone in 2012. It is just hard to believe that someone with such poor behavior got elected to Congress.
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lasjazzman
Stress = perfectionist + lousy typist!
04:53 PM on 07/23/2011
Sir, I truly and honestly respect the way that you have eloquently laid out what are supposed to be the cornerstones of honorable military service and behavior - and it is abundantly clear that you do your very best to live by them. It also goes without saying that Rep. West is a despicable excuse for a human being as well as a soldier. I do, however, wish to take issue with your generalization of "that's not how we speak in the military". In my view, tragically, every branch of our armed forces is currently teaming with young, green, often morally deficient people, who keep getting sent out on an endless string of "tours" because our military-industrial complex continues to rage out of control. Largely because of the lack of a draft and too many wars to fight, admission standards for military service have been lowered to an unconscionable degree - and we are now seeing the results of that "perfect storm". I do not fault the rank and file soldiers in this at all - this is the doing of politicians and the top brass along with the financial interests backing the military-industrial complex!
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Libby123
Wind turbines? Oh, I'm a big fan!
08:03 PM on 07/23/2011
Your objection to the US military being clouded by recruits who are "often morally deficient" would most certainly not be helped by having a draft. At least those who enter the military today did so voluntarily and, we can assume, with some understanding of the risks and rewards.
whochi
Liberals think 2 + 2 = Bush
04:35 PM on 07/23/2011
'....No, Allen West, that's not how we talk in the military. If you aren't going to apologize to your Congresswoman, you should at least apologize to the brave men and women you insulted with your pitiful excuse. ....'

Actually, the last time the military talked like Congressman West it was winning WWII in less than four years.

It's simply hilarious to read how this 'he-man' soldier dressed down other soldiers (face to face of course); Wasserman did no such thing. She waited until West left the floor of the House and then proceeded to 'dress him down' by referring to him as that person '....from Florida...' not even having the guts to face him or use his name.

Do you know long unit cohesion would last if the military acted the way Wasserman did with everyone sniping behind each other's back? About five minutes.

But that's the modern military for you. More like a social club than an organization supposed to be sharpened to a razor's edge to defend a nation and always willing to talk to one another face to face.

I wouldn't want to be in any foxhole with this faux 'soldier'. I'll take Allen West instead. He is man enough - soldier enough - to tell it to your face - a real man who will cover your back - folks like Wasserman go behind someone to shove the knife in.

It's Wasserman and this writer who owes our military an apology.
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abgesq2000
Indie with no reason to vote TP/GOP
07:58 PM on 07/23/2011
I believe the word she used to describe Mr. West was "gentleman." Now, if you want to find a problem with that, then go right ahead. Moreover, if you would watch c-span, what Ms. Wasserman Schultz did is standard practice for the Congress. The real problem is that your group cannot seem to call out bad behavior from members of your own party. That makes your positions unsustainable.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/19/debbie_wasserman_schultz_attacks_allen_west_on_floor_west_responds.html
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So silly
09:49 PM on 07/23/2011
I too watched the video and couldn't understand how her words elicited West's reaction. She was respectful and in no way vile. I suppose she could have shouted out when West was speaking like some GOP politicians like to do when they disagree but I believe waiting until her turn was proper.
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Libby123
Wind turbines? Oh, I'm a big fan!
08:18 PM on 07/23/2011
Wasserman Schultz did her job. She did not say "that person from Florida," as you say. She did not speak with contempt, sarcasm or derision. She did not "dress him down" or speak "behind his back." She referred to West as "the gentleman from south Florida," which is the standard usage in the well of the House of Representatives when referring to a colleague or his or her remarks. Members of the House do not address remarks to each other personally, using their names. They are REQUIRED to say, "the gentleman from Colorado" or "the lady from Missouri." Spend 5 minutes on C-SPAN and you will see that.
As to your and West's complaint that Wasserman Schultz' remarks were "behind [West's] back," West had said his piece AND THEN LEFT the Chamber. He couldn't be bothered to stick around and participate in the debate on one of the most important issues of his very short career. Rep. Wasserman Schultz stayed and did her job with honoor and respect, something of which Rep. West is incapable.