Today in his address to the nation from a children's hospital President Obama stated, "We can't afford the politics of delay and defeat when it comes to health care. There are too many lives and livelihoods at stake." He couldn't be more right. Now is not the time to hold up health care over every single thing that needs to be fixed. Now is the time for bold action to make good, affordable health care a right. The question is, can Congress rise above the demands of every lobbying group and make it happen?
Two House committees have now approved legislation that will make good health care affordable to American families and small businesses, stop insurance company abuses and offer a choice of private insurance or a public health insurance plan. Despite united Republican opposition the bills passed the committees with the support of 90 percent of Democrats. With key votes ahead in the next 10 days, It's time for all members of Congress to get on the right side of history.
There are two types of arguments in the debate. First, there are obstructionists, mostly from "the party of no," who just want to block health care reform to politically damage the president. In a recent call to conservative activists in the Republican Party, Sen. DeMint said, "If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him." It is clear that they have no concern for the millions of Americans facing rising premiums and who are one serious illness away from bankruptcy.
Secondly, there are some in Congress who are missing the big picture. Yes, there are parts of this legislation that we all want to improve on. However, it is simply ridiculous to vote against an entire structural change that will provide quality, affordable health care to thousands of your constituents because it doesn't address ever problem in health care. Work with your colleagues to make it better -- don't block it.
We can't make any excuses that will embolden the opponents of reform. There are real consequences for people each day that we put this off. Here is what happens every three weeks that we delay health care reform in America:
Washington insiders want to talk about the horse race, and the political bickering, but that is not what the American people care about. People care about premiums rising four times faster than wages, not bipartisan compromises that will water-down reform.
Just this week in Tennessee, hundreds of citizens with no access to health care lined up for a Remote Area Medical event. Remote Area Medical was created to serve people in third world countries, but now spends most of their time in the U.S. as the only alternative for thousands of people all over the country to see a doctor -- including thousands of children. Stan Brock, Remote Area Medical's founder, said, "We have had to cut back on our operations in places like Haiti, Guatemala and India because of the tremendous demand here in the United States."
Enough is enough. Big changes like this don't come easy. It's time for our leaders to stand up for us and rise above the petty political back and forth. No excuses -- health care can't wait!
Solves the actual problems, rather than putting expensive single payer band-aid on it.
Where have I heard this "logic" before....?
And when Congress gets paid off by a lobbyist I can look it up and find out how much he got paid and what he did for it. Not an ideal system but at least I can keep score. When Obama makes the White House log available to the press and stops cutting deals behind closed doors THEN he can call on congress to rise above the demands of every lobbying group..
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(a) Vellum was incredibly expensive in those days ... or ...
(b) Tom Jefferson got writer's cramp very easily ... or ...
(c) They were all "men of few words" but incredibly wise.
I tend to choose (c), and here is why: Article 2, Section 4. The oft-repeated but usually-ignored "impeachment clause." The direct law-enforcement command that applies, supposedly, to "any Civil officer" of this Government.
I need not quote it here, but when you read it, do observe that "Bribery" sits adjacent to "Treason" in the very same sentence.
It is BRIBERY, and nothing else, that is (by your statistic) destroying the lives of 199,022 people every three weeks. I don't know about you, but that's a very disgusting number.
Remind me now, Richard... what country do we live in? We must all be miserable sots. I'm sure they don't have such rampant corruption in The United States of America! Man... wish we all lived THERE!
... awright ... enough commiserating. Let's FIX the damned thing and get it back up in the air.
This is the current state of affairs or mindset in D.C. Can you believe it? Borrow money, start wars and take citizens' lives, but will not support a penny for Health Care Reform to save citizens" lives. They fight and try to block any significant legislation that would help the American people. They water down legislation, give the legislation great titles, comes before the cameras, put on a good show of how great the passage, and it helps no one or very few. Great Representatives we have in D.C. right?
Our current for-profit system is too expensive, and doesn't deliver the quality to justify the expense. It is also barbaric in the way it treats those without insurance or those inadequately insured.
Let's start educating the people about how other single payer systems REALLY work, instead of falling back on the tired old propaganda from the insurance companies and the AMA. Let's debate the pros and cons of these systems, and determine what works best in them.
We can offer various government incentives to those entering the medical profession. The American people will get behind this if they're given the facts versus the scare tactics of those protecting the insurance company profits.
How do I know this? Well, have you ever heard of ANY nation with single payer, demanding that their government return them to a for profit system? Didn't think so. That, more than anything else, should prove that it's far superior to our clunky expensive and 37th in the world rated dinosaur of a health care system.
After a healthy debate, Obama and Congress can then bring single payer before the people next year. Perhaps even put it up for a vote by the people.
Look , I am sure that everyone on the forum has a brother ,father mom, cousin, sister,friend that is in need of this reform.Someone you know with pre existing clause preventing them coverage.Hey and who is to say next month you don't come down with something that causes them to cancel your policy.We are all on thin ice with the existing bs, and we know it.
Get on with it congress....
We also need to remove the employers out of the health CARE equation.
Doctors are overwhelmingly FOR the Public Option/ Medicare For All. Single Payer.
They are sick and tired of spending so much time filling out forms for the 1300 private insurance companies (that actually are owned by 6-7 LARGE health care DENIERS). Single Payer will make them compete on a level playing field. Right now the private interests rule, at great cost to you, me and your neighbor. About time for GOVERNMENT PAID health care, the way the rest of the world does it! Because health care is a human right, not a FOR PROFIT commodity.
- In 1949 the AMA opposed Truman’s national health bill, stating: “Would socialized medicine lead to socialization of other phases of life? Lenin thought so. He declared socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialized state.”
- In 1965, The Association of American Physicians opposed Medicare: “We oppose the Medicare program because foreign experience has shown that socialized medicine is harmful to both the doctor and the patient, primarily to the patient.
- In 1993, The Health Insurance Association of America, sponsored an ad campaign opposing Clinton’s health care plan. “What we don’t do is let the government run our health care system through mandatory and monopolistic insurance purchasing schemes. That approach would take away your freedom of choice about health care…”
- And now in 2009, America's Health Insurance Plans, advocating against a public insurance plan that consumers can choose, stated: “The allure of a government-run health plan is distracting and unproven, and brings a high risk of unintended consequences such as reducing competition and consumer choice. Moreover, even if a government-run plan could be designed in a way that preserves choice for most Americans, it would delay the start of universal coverage for years.”
See more quotes here:http://onlinecpi.live.radicaldesigns.org/downloads/CryingWolfHealthcare.pdf
Here's the dirty little secret of the health-care debate: all the major player on both sides of the aisle are paid employees of the major health-care companies, including HMOs and Big Pharma. In the 2008 election cycle alone, the Democrats slopped up $90 million from the health sector, the Republicans with $76 million. Obama led the pack with $19 million. So all these Beltway knaves agree on one key proviso--keeping their paymasters in business. The rest is quibbling over marginal details.
That's why the "public option" contained in these bills is too feeble to either contain costs or guarantee coverage to the tens of millions of Americans who desperately need help: the fix is in, and it will never offer serious competition to the HMO greedheads who own Congress and the executive branch. In fact, according to the leading scholar in this area, the public option will EXPAND the market for the HMOs (http://www.pnhp.org/blog/2009/04/15/qotd-hacker-says-that-public-optionprivate-exchange-would-expand-private-insurance-market/)
For more information on the only real health-care reform—nonprofit, single payer Medicare for all--and how to achieve it, please see the following Web sites:
www.singlepayeraction.org
http://www.healthcare-now.org
www.pnhp.org
http://www.1payer.net/
http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/
Most liberal columnists and posters trot out the phrase "public option" like a magical formula--few of them, however, have any idea of what it really entails or how it would work.
But the public option is nothing like Medicare.
It will be neither truly public (cannot accept government funding after the initial infusion) nor really an option for the tens of millions who need it most (because it is self-sustaining, it would charge premiums and impose deductibles)
Moreover, it would likely be saddled with the oldest, sickest, and thus most expensive cohort, and would have to offer higher fees than Medicare--so no cost savings, none of the cost efficiencies of a single risk pool; it would be competing with1,300 private HMO risk pools, which would aggressively market the youngest, healthiest, and thus cheapest and most profitable cohort.
This farce has only one true beneficiary: the HMOs, which will retain their chokehold on this system.
For more information on the only real health-care reform with a proven record of cost control and universal coverage--nonprofit single-payer Medicare for all--see the following Web sites:
www.pnhp.org
www.singlepayeraction.org
http://www.healthcare-now.org
http://www.1payer.net/
http:// www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/
It is time for Congress to stop playing games and creating "Waterloos" of sorts and time to grow u p and act in our interests.
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Health Care: The Public Plan Option
These Democratic Senators have NOT agreed to support it:
Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Senator Tom Carper (D-DE)
Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)
These names are reported by The Hill here and here
Update: Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) says she supports a public option.
Update: Senator Jeff Binghaman (D-NM) says he supports a public option.
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People throw this term around without realizing how empty the Democratic proposal really is--how UNlike Medicare it is, and how much LIKE an HMO it is: an enfeebled, hamstrung HMO that will discredit the idea of publicly funded health care for another generation.
So let's hear your version of the public option: specific details, please.
I'd also be happy to pay more in taxes.
Bill Nelson is a blue dog. 25% of the people in his state have no health insurance. Florida has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. I'm angry that my own senator can care so little about Floridians.
Give him a call and let him know how you feel. He wants to vacation while people in his state die. He wants to vacation while more lose their insurance and everything they own. Bill Nelson DOES NOT CARE about anything but killing the public option and supporting the insurance business.
These Democratic Senators have NOT agreed to support it:
Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Senator Tom Carper (D-DE)
Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)
These names are reported by The Hill here and here
Update: Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) says she supports a public option.
Update: Senator Jeff Binghaman (D-NM) says he supports a public option.
You can also contact the White House and voice your opinion
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
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Coming up Wednesday, July 22, 2009
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Don't expect too much from these guys,,,top money lobbyists