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Dammit, Chris Matthews! You Were Doing So Well 'Til You Said "Simpson Bowles"

Posted: 06/05/2012 12:38 am

Chris Matthews had something of a scoop on MSNBC's Morning Joe program yesterday. He indicated that yet another Democratic leader in Congress has succumbed to the austerity-based political fever that's decimating that party on Capitol Hill.

He didn't put it quite that way, of course, but that's the gist of it. The headline could read something like this:

Yet another Democrat stricken with the dreaded "Simpson Bowles virus." The subhead could be, "Plague claims latest victim during private conversation with broadcaster. Number of cases may reach epidemic proportions, say experts."

Springtime in Washington: You can count on austerity fever to strike this town before the last cherry blossom sheds its petals.

That Matthews Magic

Now, I know that the progressive Internet likes to give Chris Matthews a hard time, and not altogether without reason. But I find the guy very likable, warts and all, so I'm not going to go all ad hominem on him. (Hopefully that's not our style anyway.)

Fact is, Chris was doing great for a while yesterday morning, forcefully and eloquently laying down exactly the kind of advice that President Obama and his party leaders need. Sure, Matthews and the rest off the Joe Scarborough panel slung their fair share of cliches -- "Friday was a game change," that sort of thing -- but Matthews was nailing it.

"This election's going to be about the guy on the mound," he said, noting our lagging growth rate and terrible job numbers. "He's not performing out there," said Matthews, "not the way the voters score this thing. if he can't change the economic numbers, which he can't, he's got to talk about ... what he's up against ... how he's brought back the auto industry, and how he has to do a lot more in public sector investment."

Then Matthews really hit his stride, saying of the President:

I don't understand why he thinks small. Why doesn't he say "Look, we brought back the auto industry. Why don't we bring back the highways? Why don't we do what Eisenhower did -- upgrade what he did in the fifties? Why is Europe ahead of us on fast rail, the chunnel, the bullet trains .... Why is everything falling apart? Why don't we invest in our public sector while interest rates are practically zero and there are all these unemployed people out there?"
Matthews added:

This is a good time to do stuff. Instead he has this pusillanimous highway bill up there on the Hill, and this so-called jobs bill that I don't even know what's in it. If they're going to say no to spam, make 'em say no to steak. Have a big program, let Congress say no to it, alongside a good debt reduction program down the road.

Wow, Chris. We don't think you've been reading us, but you're playing our song.

"He doesn't seem to have anything on his plate right now," Matthews added, "and that's his main problem as pitcher. You don't think of him as out there pitching." He even inspired the Republican Scarborough to offer up a riff or two. Scarborough added:

You run straight into the fire, and everywhere you go you say, "You know what. Things aren't great right now. But if we didn't do what we did your ATMs would have stopped working. If we didn't do what we did Detroit would've stopped working"
The host concluded with the reasonable observations that "Democrats seem to be afraid to tell people what they believe and what they did." To which Matthews responded, "How about this? (The President) should say 'My way is the highway. We're gonna do it the way Eisenhower did it.'"

I never thought I'd say these words, especially in response to a suggestion that Democrats start kickin' it Eisenhower style, but: Amen, brother. Amen.

The Dream Is Over

Then Matthews pivoted to policy specifics. "You go over the steps," he said. "Why didn't he back Simpson/Bowles?"

Damn it, Chris Matthews! You were doing so well!

The President, said Matthews, could say that Simpson Bowles "does things I hate, but it goes somewhere. Matthews continued:

(The President could say) "It does stuff I don't like. I hate it, I hate it. But we gotta start somewhere. I got eleven votes (for the Simpson Bowles proposal, which failed to pass within the Deficit Commission). I wish I'd gotten fourteen, but damn it, I don't care how many votes you got. You got my vote."He coulda done that."
Then came the anonymous Congressional leader, of whom Matthews said:
I talked to a leader in Congress yesterday, a Democrat - a moderate Democrat - and he said "The number one thing we could do for the market, for confidence, for the consumer, for the investor, for the retiree, the about-to-be retiree, is a long-term debt reduction plan agreed to by this government. That means the Republicans in the House, the Democrats in the Senate, and the President agree to a deal that we're going to stick to to reduce the debt.
Finally we heard the closer on Matthews' Simpson Bowles pitch:
it seems to me that this would be ... the greatest gong out there, we'd all hear it and say, "Dammit, those guys can do their jobs." I know it's going to be hard before the election. But the President ought to be out there saying 'I'm first, put me down first, I'm John Hancock, I'm signing on." And (he should) lead the way on debt reduction, long term, and short-term job creation. Everybody knows what they want done. They want jobs now, and long-term debt reduction.
They do? Let's think about that for a moment.

By Popular Demand

As US News reported in March, "A Harris Poll found only 12 percent of the public want to see a cut in Social Security, 21 said they want to cut federal aid to education and 22 said they favor cuts federal healthcare programs."

Simpson Bowles would do all three.

An April poll showed that 79 percent of voters thought it was important to address the jobs crisis, as opposed to 73 percent who thought the deficits were important. And more importantly, when asked by Gallup in January what worried them most, only 16 percent said the deficit. 26 percent said jobs, 10 percent said our continuing economic decline, 6 percent said outsourcing, and 3 percent said Medicare and Medicaid.

When asked in March what they worry about "a great deal," 71 percent said the economy, 60 percent said the availability and affordability of healthcare, 55 percent said unemployment, and 48 percent said the Social Security system. 60 percent said "Federal spending and the government deficit."

When you stack up Simpson Bowles against the things it would hurry, that's 60 percent in favor and 234 against. "Everybody knows what they want done," all right, and Simpson Bowles ain't it.

Strange Medicine

The fact is, the Simpson Bowles plan does nothing to build jobs except delay its draconian cuts by ten months. There's no stimulus spending in it. And what kind of political naiveté would lead insiders like Matthews and his unnamed House leader (probably Steny Hoyer) to think that Republicans will back any kind of job creation plan?

In practical terms, a sentence like "jobs in the short-term, deficits cuts in the long term" is meaningless when applied to Simpson Bowles. That plan would briefly avoid any direct action to cost the country more jobs, but then would begin to trigger a wave of increased unemployment.

Saying "jobs now, then Simpson Bowles" is like saying, "We'll fix your broken leg today and then amputate it tomorrow." It makes no sense.

Let Us Count the Ways

Matthews quoted his unnamed Congressional Democrat as saying, "The number one thing we could do for the market, for confidence, for the consumer, for the investor, for the retiree, the about-to-be retiree, is a long-term debt reduction plan." How would that work out for the parties he listed?

The Market: In a little-noted (except by us) development, the stock market actually tanked the last time there was deficit reduction deal. Why? Because government cuts means a smaller GDP and therefore less consumer spending. And less consumer spending means less profits -- unless you're a bank.

The Consumer: Conservative economists believe in a theory which says that government debt discourages spending, because people know that those debts will someday lead to higher taxes so they'd better save their money. But for some reason they don't believe that people will hold on to their money once they realize the government plans to cut their Social Security and Medicare, which is deeply embedded in the Simpson Bowles proposal.

And they don't think that consumers will be discouraged from spending, or have their confidence shaken, by the adoption of a plan which will cost the economy a projected 4 million jobs.

The Investor: People are seeing their 401k's get hammered because there's no consumer confidence. People aren't spending -- either because they don't have jobs, or because they're in an underwater home, or because their wages have stagnated, or because they're fearful for the future. Often it's a case of "all of the above."

As we noted earlier, investors got the living daylights beaten out of them after the last deficit deal. They'd get hurt just as badly when this one was announced, too -- and every time another jobs report came out after that.

Retirees and soon-to-be retirees: Simpson Bowles proposes radical cuts to Medicare, and insists on cutting Social Security rather than contemplate raising taxes on the wealthy. Think this'll turn 'em on? Talk about a Social Security deal, along with the Medicare reimbursement cuts, help the Democrats lose Congress in 2010.

If this plan becomes law, will people really say, "Dammit, these guys can do their jobs"? Or with they say, "Dammit, I just lost mine"?

The Wrong Problem

"Long-term debt reduction" isn't our most urgent problem. Our government debt's been this high before (as a percentage of GDP) -- specifically, it was higher during the World War II and postwar years. Those are the years that finally ended the Depression, and paved the way for those Eisenhower accomplishments that had Chris Matthews waxing so lyrical.

And you know what's even crazier? Right now they're paying the federal government for the privilege of lending it money. That's right: The federal government can borrow at negative interest rates, because the world's investors have so much confidence in the security of an investment in the US Treasury. So why aren't we borrowing the money we need to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, educating our kids, and pull ourselves out of this economic quagmire?

We can pivot to debt concerns once our economy's moving again, and once they've stopped paying our government to borrow.

The Sting

When the Simpson Bowles proposal isn't serving the interests of the wealthy with crackpot logic, it stoops to outright fraud. Its much-vaunted "tax increases," for example, involve eliminating the kinds of tax breaks that are keeping many middle-class families afloat (like employer health and mortgage interest deductions).

The Simpson Bowles plan to "save Social Security" involves cutting benefits for recipients in 2080 as much as they'd be cut if Congress did nothing at all. Why? To deflect the idea of eliminating the payroll tax cap. (Simpson Bowles merely raises the cap slowly until it reaches 90 percent of all US income -- a level it had reached twenty years ago, before income inequality put most of our economic growth above the cap's reach.)

The Simpson Bowles plan doesn't increase taxes for the wealthy -- unless you believe that Congress will cut unnamed "loopholes" so much that it more than makes up for SB's most outrageous feature: It actually lowers the top tax rate for wealthy individuals and corporations.

Simpson Bowles offers only bogus "savings" measures for Medicare. Its only concrete proposal is to cap spending growth at GDP plus 1 percent -- an artificial formula that would soon have seniors stripped of medical care under current health inflation rates. Why didn't they offer concrete cost-cutting proposals? Because those would require limiting the runaway corporate profits that are devastating our health economy.

Like we were saying: fraud.

A Party Under the Influence

How did Chris Matthews and his unnamed friend get it so wrong? Self-perpetuating Clinton-era economic blunders are a big part of it. The half-billion dollars that Pete Peterson has spent promoting ideas like this in the last three years along can't have hurt either. That pays for a lot of ideologically-driven economists -- many of them with Democratic pedigrees -- peddling nonsense at a lot of seminars, "summits," and dinner parties.

That's how the world ends: Not with a bang, but with a whimper -- and plenty of hors d'ouevres.

Whatever its source, the Fantasyland Democrats are inhabiting will soon collide with reality -- just as it did in 2010, when Republicans ran to their left with a bogus "Seniors' Bill of Rights."

Chris Matthews had a scoop, all right: Democratic leaders on the Hill have come down with the same contagious self-deception that's sabotaged their party so many times before. Once again, the fever's running high along the Potomac. The folks on the Hill are dropping like flies.

And, frankly, Chris old friend, although we sorta love ya, you're looking a little peaked there yourself.


Richard (RJ) Eskow, a consultant and writer (and former insurance/finance executive), is a Senior Fellow with the Campaign for America's Future and the host of The Breakdown, broadcast Saturday nights from 7-9 pm on WeAct Radio, AM 1480 in Washington DC.

 

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12:33 PM on 07/18/2012
Simpson-Bowles was a commission of millionaires dumping all of our problems on the most vulnerable. If that passes for "nonpartisan" we're f*cked.
12:27 PM on 06/21/2012
The talk show hosts with their multimillion dollar salaries and other high income groups like big business, Wall Street and the Medical industry and the elected corporate GOP and elected corporate conservative democrats are the first to push for Social Security and Medicare to be cut.

They have their retirement wrapped up with pretty bows and their retirement medical care taken care of, if not by the taxpayer then by the millions they have earned bashing programs that would be good and decent for the average person like Social Secuirty and Medicare.

The stinger is that JP Morgan now dispenses Food Stamps. At first JP sent the food stamp jobs overseas but too many here became angry. I suppose JP Morgan will be on the government dole when they retire since they will have worked for the government. I wonder who gets the most money, those who get the food stamps or those who dispense them?

Why give the food stamp job to the overpaid minimum wage guy when it can be done by the underpaid maximum wage guy?
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Estreet1964
Gimmie the beat boys and free my soul....
03:50 PM on 06/05/2012
Simpson Bowles: a panel made up entirely of republicans and corporate Democrats.

Who's interests do you think they're looking out for?

Hint: It ain't you and me.
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01:07 PM on 06/05/2012
With the exception of cenk on the young turks, I have not heard a peep from supposedly liberal talk show hosts about Simpson Bowles and its implications. Instead, it is creeping into the dialog as the common sense, even liberal, counterbalance to Ryan. It is mysteriously showing up on myriad local op-Ed pages of late. It is a propaganda campaign of grand proportion enabled by otherwise progressive-leaning pundits. That needs to change.
12:29 PM on 06/21/2012
I have noticed that too. MSNBC hosts surprised me when they decided to whack Social Security and Medicare. I thought Mica was a democrat but she is a Joe Scarborough with a skirt on.
madkoz
Dog is my co-pilot
11:32 AM on 06/05/2012
We can spend the money on tax cuts or we can spend the money on infrastructure. Remember Romney is going to build his beach house either way. Why help him add a car elevator to the project?
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davholb
Never stand between a CEO and a "hydrant"!
01:32 PM on 06/05/2012
Quite simple, isn't it? 435 + 100+1 = 0 when it comes to making rational constructive decisions! Thier results are directed toward whats best for the 1%'ers and that's " no increase in taxes" and the 99% are victims of the 435+100+1's decisions. SPEND THE MONEY ON INFRASTRUCTURE! WE ALL WIN!!
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noaxe397
11:23 AM on 06/05/2012
How come no one ever talks about the tax increases in Simpson-bowles?   How does Matthews think THAT will get passed in Congress?
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wrightthewrong
Medicare for All
02:25 PM on 06/05/2012
especially since it could not even get passed in committee... They always forget to mention that.
Chinawanderer
A biography should never be micro
09:42 AM on 06/05/2012
The problem with austerity politics is that those that support really do not think ahead. Austerity is the sacrifice of the future and immiseration of the present to solve a manageable problem from the past.
01:22 PM on 06/05/2012
This is completely out of whack but why am I not surprised? You use words like "immiseration" to make yourself sound smart. I want to make sure that we're clear on your reasoning so let me ask you...if we have a "manageble problem from the past" wouldn't we want to solve it today because it's not going to solve itself. The Federal Deficit doubling within the next twenty years to 200% of GDP is nothing to worry about, right?
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Estreet1964
Gimmie the beat boys and free my soul....
03:53 PM on 06/05/2012
And where were you between 2001-2009 when Bush was running up the debt?

Or were you then in the Cheney "Deficits don't matter." camp?
Chinawanderer
A biography should never be micro
07:25 PM on 06/05/2012
If you really are a proud conservative as you claim then you would be very skeptical of the vogue of austerity politics.

You also have confused the idea of deficit--a shortfall in a given year--and the debt which is the total amount owed. If the deficit were 200 percent of GDP then the deficit would be something like $30,000,000 million.
Here is what austerity means:

1. A less educated, less competitive workforce in the future.

2. A less competitive country because with spending on maintaining and upgrading our infrastructure means less capacity to produce goods and the inability to move goods in the marketplace.

3. It means higher unemployment today. Consider this: the occupations that have been shedding jobs recently have not been in the private sector but rather teachers, police officers and fire fighters.

4. In the short run it means more hunger, more homelessness and more crime.

5. In the long run it means a smaller less competitive economy.

And finally, anyone who claims they are concerned about the deficit but also is advocating cutting taxes is someone who is NOT actually trying to deal with the deficit.

Sacrificing the future to deal with something that could be manageable today is hardly conservative but that is exactly what austerity does.

This is what a truly conservative economic policy looks like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics)
12:35 PM on 06/21/2012
Right, they could fix Social Security by raising the cap on wages that it is paid on. Medicare can be fixed with more competition and buying overseas. We need to graduate more doctors or import them until we can get them graduated. We also need to have traveling medical buses where well trained nurses can give physicals, xrays and testing and if the test results are bad send the patient to the doctor.

They say we can buy a plane ticket and still save a fortune by having some operations done overseas.
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kamachanda
Mr. President, Tear this Wall Street down!
08:02 AM on 06/05/2012
When they do these polls and ask what voters are concerned about, they never list corporate fascism.
07:56 AM on 06/05/2012
I wonder how many of the people who tell pollsters that they're really concerned about the deficit actually understand it? And I wonder how many of them connect raising retirement age with unemployment?
martman1
retired business owner
07:28 AM on 06/05/2012
The problem with Chris is that, for him, it has not sunk in yet that all of the Republicans and most of the Democrats he interviews are liars only concerned with themselves. His admiration for politicians is palpable - like a 12 year old boy and baseball stars.
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wmnorton
Moderate where moderate used to be
01:52 AM on 06/05/2012
Chris Matthews problem is the same as for almost all of the pundit class except one, they don't really understand economics, so they end up repeating something some one has told them because it sounds good. When Simpson/Bowles talks about lower the rates and broaden the base, it sounds good unless you understand what that comment really means. It means that the rich will get to pay less in taxes and the poor and the middle class will get to pay more to make up for what the rich are no longer going to be paying. I call that "Wealthy Welfare." That was what Reagan did with his tax "reform" of 1986. If you look at what that has meant over the last 30 years only a fool would say we need more of that. By the way the only pundit that knows what he is talking about when it comes to economics, Paul Krugman.
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ekim gnitlon
01:50 AM on 06/05/2012
Simpson - Bowles was DOA. I know I did not like it because it attacked Medicare and Social Security. But the President seemed to think it had some pluses. However, it never really got the time of day on the Hill. It just lost all its air as if everybody decided not to compromise no matte what.

I am not completely familiar with it, but to answer my own question, maybe it was because of the "austerity" within Simpson - Bowles that it was found unacceptable... just a guess.