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Posted April 13, 2008 | 11:19 PM (EST)



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Are you a Hillary fan? Then put ZZ Top's "Gun Love"1 on the turntable and let 'er rip. Sen. Clinton is, in that song's words, "running with the wild bunch, makin' like Robert De Niro." And when it comes to this primary race she's decided, in the words of that song, to "play Russian Roulette but she'll load all six."

This isn't a primary race anymore. It's a suicide pact. It's Gun Crazy II, starring Sen. Clinton as the gun-totin' candidate who fought her way up from her hardscrabble origins. There, where the tears and Pabst Blue Ribbon flowed, she learned the skills that later made her leader of the pack at the Wellesley Rod and Gun Club ...

The Democrats have two candidates whose policies are very similar -- and, despite claims to the contrary, are equally well-detailed on their websites. It was inevitable, then, that the race would become about personalities and biographies. With one candidate symbolizing minorities and the future, and the other representing women and the perceived good old days, there was no way things weren't going to get personal and weird -- not just between the candidates, but their supporters too.

All of a sudden Hillary's a born-again redneck, throwing shots back at an Indiana bar and bragging (excuse me, make that braggin') about her gun history. But will it play? Mitt Romney trashed his presidential chances, in part by portraying himself as a "varmint"-huntin' regular guy -- who just happened to be the son of a Senator and car company CEO. Romney claimed his "varmint" of choice was squirrel, however, while Hillary suggested that ducks were her "target of opportunity."

Hillary waxes nostalgic about having hunted once as a little girl. Guess she wants us to know she has the common touch. In fact, her father was a wealthy Republican textile wholesaler who moved to the tony environs of Park Ridge, Illinois, where Hillary lived until leaving for an Ivy League college where she joined the Young Republicans.

Or, as country singer Gretchen Wilson says, "Let me get a big 'hell yeah' from the redneck girls like me."

Hell, yeah.

Sensing opportunity, Sen. Clinton decided to rail against "elitist" Obama. Will it work for her? Yes, no, and maybe. It has definitely hurt Obama, which was her main objective. It gives the Republicans yet another talking point, one she herself observed they've used year after year against Dems: namely, that they're elite and out of touch.

Will this gambit persuade any of those non-Democratic blue collar Americans -- the ones that Obama was so truthfully describing in those much maligned remarks -- that she's one of them? No. Will it backfire, Romney style, and make her look phony? That's a toss-up, although she's already "ducking" (sorry!) embarrassing questions about when she last went to church or fired a gun. That's "not relevant," she says.

Here's the main reason attacks like these alienate the majority of Democrats who are not Hillary supporters: They know Obama's comments about disillusioned white voters were both accurate and well-intentioned. They know that Hillary knows they were accurate and well-intentioned (especially since Bill said virtually the same exact thing when he was running). They don't want a candidate who says whatever they need to say to win -- even if it cheapens the discourse and hurts the party. Statements like these make them feel that, for the Clinton team, the low road is the scenic route. Should Hillary persuade the superdelegates to give her the nod, a large chunk of her base will be alienated and discouraged.

Is Pyrrhus the newest member of her turbulent team?

Actually, this latest attack bears the hot sauce-stained fingerprints of Mark Penn, whose "firing" from the Clinton campaign we have since learned was yet another deception. The "elitist" gambit is one more attempt at victory by division -- a trademark Penn strategy that has cost her dearly. But the Clinton campaign seems optimistic that it, like other leaves from the Rovian playbook, will work out in the end.

And it might. The Clinton campaign could yet ascend to electoral heaven on buffalo wings. That's why she continues to insist she's a plain-speakin' American. But what about that nagging question -- when she last went to church or fired a gun?

"We can answer that some other time," Clinton said at a press conference held in a working class neighborhood here. "This is about what people feel is being said about them. I went to church on Easter. I mean, so?""

Let me get a big 'hell, yeah' ... I mean, "so?"

There's a part of me -- a bad part -- that likes the notion of a president who knows her way around a Remington 870, or is even willing to pretend. (Although the 870's a pump-action shotgun, if I recall correctly, and I think you'd need two hands to fire a repeat shot. I can't remember for sure, since I'm just an elitist -- but I'm sure Hillary knows.)

Some Dems will rankle at the fact that a white candidate raised in wealth and privilege is mocking an African American raised by a single mother as 'elitist.' But the blow has landed. The problem isn't that the primary campaign is going on and on. The problem is that the primary campaign is going on and on while one candidate wages a relentlessly negative campaign, damaging the probable nominee at every opportunity. But those who can be persuaded by that argument already have been. Apparently, at least for the moment, the Democrats want to play out this destructive charade.

Well, alright then: Lock and load. The party's chances might be destroyed in the process, to which the response will no doubt be "so?" Meanwhile, ask any Republican if they like what's happening to the Democratic Party and they're sure to answer:

Hell, yeah.
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1(Forget Bob Dylan: That Pulitzer should've gone to ZZ Top's Billy Gibbons, if only for rhyming "De Niro" with "pistolero.")


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Obama is an elitist from the sense that he refuses to go bare knuckles against Clinton.

His turn the other cheek style may work with pew-sitters but in redneck country, that may not pan out.

Clinton has so many weak spots (ie. when's the last time she attended chruch or fired a weapon? how can someone sitting on the board of Walmart call a community organizer an elite?, what's up with Bill's memories and hers?, etc.). He should just go for a gut shot and right hook into her jaw. That will do her under (which I actually like the sound of that.....).

Hillary with all her faults, I don't see why Obama just goes on the offensive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 04/15/2008

Last week, among blue-collar workers in Pennsylvania, Hillary was portrayed as Rosie The Riveter. Among the Hoosiers in Indiana, she became gun-totin' Annie Oakley. Why, we have a lot to look forward to. In North Carolina, she'll be a craftin' furniture, and if she gets to Oregon, she'll be wielding a chain-saw as Paulette Bunyan. Can't wait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 04/14/2008

When does Hilary buy the pickup truck with the gun rack in the window, and drive around from one southern roadhouse to another, looking for voters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 04/14/2008

The Clintons are now openly running a scorched earth campaign.

If Obama does not have the nomination stolen from him - the Republicans will literally start running clips of all of the Clintons' quotes.

Voters do not have time to process and understand detailed responses and nuanced reasoning to negative attacks. Obama may be pushed into opening the waste plumbing of the Clintons' history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 04/14/2008

I think she`s finally cracked. In fact she`s completely freaked out by the looks of things.That shot of crown
royal was of course for show but I think she`s unwinding. needs a drink or two, just like BUSH! Hope she goes hunting with Cheney soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 04/14/2008

PETER PAUL VS CLINTON 4-25-08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 04/14/2008

!All of a sudden Hillary's a born-again redneck..." - I'm telling this for half a year, already. But nobody would listen. Hillary is a transformer. She's transforming from a Democratic president's honourable wife into a ranting, drinking, praying, shooting, cursing southern Republican chick without regrets.

This is spooky.I mean, really spooky. Has Hillary been subject to brainwashing, lately? Seems so. Seems very much so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 04/14/2008

Montanamotor....
So everyone who drinks a beer and who have also shot a gun, is a Redneck? Wow! The Pacific Northwest (Including British Columbia, Canada) is Redneck Country for sure... LMAO And those Alaskan Rednecks are something else again...
Whoa doggies... You wouldn't be a Montana Redneck would you... Naw... Never shot a gun? Never drank a beer?
I was shooting guns before I even hit my teens... I suspect that is so with a lot of Farm Boys... (We had a 186 acre Dairy Farm) Never had a beer till my Senior year in High School... Would NEVER mix those two, even if I still drank any alcohol...
Taught my City Cousins to SAFELY shoot, before they were teens also... Both males and females...
Hey... There was a hidden still site on the Farm we bought... Does that help my Red Nekkedness? LMAO Here...
C'mon Obama supporters... Get a life... Life will go on regardless of whom is elected... And I suspect, as usual, until G W (Saddam) Bush was elected, little will change... The Good Older Boys of both parties will still be in Control...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 04/14/2008

You're passive-aggressiveness about "rednecks" is noted - but totally misses the point of the comment... she portrayed herself to be a nascent Navy Seal when arriving in the former Yugoslavia and she continuously makes up absurd stories in an effort to make her seem like a larger than life super-hero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 04/15/2008

timm0 (Quote) "she portrayed herself to be a nascent Navy Seal when arriving in the former Yugoslavia ........ "
Nascent = Coming into existence; emerging...
Been drinking some of that Kick a Poo Joy Juice, have you? Maybe a wee bucket, or two, of that Redneck White Lightening?
Perhaps you're Pugnaciously Prone to Portraying in Prevaricating Pompous Portrayals those you Patently oppose? Hillary is a Navy Seal? snicker and guffaw and maybe even a chortle...
When they spoke of the "still" of the night, they did NOT mean that kind, LOL...
Me thinks you may experience a nascent hangover soon... Heh Heh Heh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 04/15/2008

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Brilliant piece. . .captures the true sadness of our situation. Not only is Senator Clinton holding a gun to her own future, but all of we Demos are her hostages for as long as she can kick the can...


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 04/14/2008

I'm an Obama volunteer. I can attest to the fact that his and our attempts to reach out to PA voters who were undecided WAS working. We saw a big swing in his direction last week. The economic message was starting to take root. There was a fragile base of people daring to actually start to be optimistic again, after so many years of being totally ignored. Now, I fear they are all going to swing back to the politics of fear and division.

Now, Obama should have just said, it IS working. And left it at that instead of trying to explain how republican wedge issues have made voters take sides against their own economic interests. It was badly worded. But this attack from Hillary is terribly damaging to all of us on the Democratic side.

Hillary Clinton has brought is straight to hell.

I can't believe the cold calculating cynicism on display here. I always liked Bill and Hillary, I have to admit. But not anymore.

Please, my fellow PA voters, see this for what it is. An attempt by an amoral power-hungry political family trying to play at your fears to get your votes.

That move to Obama last week was the right one.

Josh in PA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 04/14/2008

The 'elite' attack cracks me up.

I WANT a President to be elite... Aka, smarter, better educated/traveled/read than the vast majority of Americans. Bill was a friggin' Rhodes Scholar. He and Hillary are both lawyers. Both Dem candidates are elite, and thank god.

We've got a pretty solid idea of what happens when you elect a President who is LESS intelligent, articulate, and worldly than most, and most Americans have figured out it's a bad idea. Hillary's attempt to align herself with that sad tradition is yet another reason I don't support her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 04/14/2008

I agree, that's an old Republican canard used against Democrats to draw attention away from themselves as wealthy, over-privileged freeloaders. They use it to distract from the fact that the Rich live off the Poor, not the other way around as the Right Wing noise machine would like you to believe.

It certainly fits the Clinton modus operandi. Vote like a Republican, govern like a Republican and campaign like a Republican. The only reason the Clintons are Democrats at all is even the Republicans could see them for the scoundrels they really are years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 04/14/2008

I knew the world had gone mad when I saw Mayor Nutter of Philadelphia, a Hillary supporter, doing the Sunday morning talk show rounds. In his compulsive effort to defend Hillary, he actually started talking about the value of hunting and gun ownership in Pennsylvania. Perhaps true, but as a big city mayor shouldn't he be working to limit the devastation that guns have brought to his hometown rather than serving as an unpaid spokesperson for the NRA? Just another example of a Clinton supporter willing to throw away reason and integrity in a desperate effort to save the nomination for Hillary. Kind of reminds me of all of the posters here who argue that winning the popular vote and the most delegates in the primaries/caucuses is proof of nothing and that party hacks should overturn the expressed will of the voters (if and only if that means that Hillary Clinton gets the nomination).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 04/14/2008

WHAT?!?!?! They just had a huge public to-do here on his recent legislation that limits handgun sales in Philly...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 04/14/2008

"Anything You Can I Can Do Better...."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9eawRgxuGX0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 04/14/2008

ohhhh, thank you for that one! I'm still laughing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 04/14/2008

Here's the thing that I don't get. The super delegates are supposed to be the wise ones who choose the best candidate for the fall election. Well, these "wise (wo)men" had better get their butts in gear, because if they wait too long to select the "right" candidate, both candidates will be dead, fatally wounded from this now unnecessarily drawn out primary. The people have spoken. Their numbers won't be reversed.

Oh, Wise Super Delegates: Get off the sofas, you all. You have work to do and it had better be done soon. You don't need any more info. You've got all the data you require to make your call. So make it, dammit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 04/14/2008

"Wellesley Rod & Gun Club"... brilliant!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 04/14/2008

RJ: I say right on...or as the talented MS. Wilson says....Hell Yeah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 04/14/2008

What can you say about a candidate who knows all the right people and has the right name to be president but still feels the need to pad her resume with Bosnian gunfire and shots? A losing candidate.

What do you call a candidate who grew up with a single mother who had to work every step of the way to be the first african american president? An elitist.

Hillary Clinton is a joke. It's time to bow out gracefully(does she even know what the word means) and hit the road(probably on the back of a Harley, bandana and beer cans in tow).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 04/14/2008

I guess she's flip flopped again, since prior to this stir, she and Schumer were trying to remove all firearms from private citizens...go figure, eh? Another case of say/do whatever she has to to get elected. She ain't gettin my vote!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 04/14/2008

Hillary thinks that AL Gore lost the popular vote because he was an elitist in the eyes of voters? He won the election and had it overturned by the Supreme court. How ironic that she is calling on the super delegates to become her Supreme Court.

It was Bill Clinton who presented Al Gore with the need to run against the Clinton scandals. I think Gore would have been a stronger candidate if Bill had not been so selfish and irresponsible. Bill Clinton's lies about the affair, gave Bush the opportunity to paint all Democrats as immoral and without the integrity needed to hold the highest office in the land.

Now it is another Clinton casting Al Gore as a loser.

This primary needs to end well before the convention. Hillary may find herself unable to win her Senate seat if Bloomberg decides to run. Bill and Hillary can not ask the Democrats to endure another such campaign in 2012. They have collected all debts owed, dismantled their base and proven that their brand is too tarnished to resurrect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 04/14/2008

You have the Clintons now running a republican campaign in the democratic primary. You have them even bashing Al Gore who is a super-delegate in the democratic party. If theer was any doubt about how out of touch and clueless the Clintons are about the dem party, then let there be no doubt anymore. They are a disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 04/14/2008

I can see why Hillary would see a higher moral person such as Obama as elite. She is so far from being a moral person with qualities that remind us daily of just how low and nasty she will go to win anyone would seem "above her". The gutter plays she has made that include lying about things knowing full well there is proof of her lying puts her so low on the ability to claim she has morals Barack would seem elite to her. I am greatly disappointed as PA has obviously decided they like NAFTA and will support the greatest cheerleader for it all the way to hte voting booth. How truly sad that they will allow Hillary to play act the red neck and think she has something in common with them. Being a real red neck I am sickened by her play for the drink and guns vote. How many times should she be able to reinvent herself for the people in the area to see her as something she really is not. She in her expensive clothes costing much more than most in PA will see in a year throwing back a shot and claiming to have a history with guns that is a sick joke. And yet PA loves her and is not bitter. I am very bitter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 04/14/2008

She truly is JUST LIKE bush. bush knows that no one will challenge him. And when they do, he just refuses to respond to subpoenas, etc. She lies because she knows that Obama isn't going to call her out on any of them.

I live in PA and I AM bitter... and getting more bitter every day I see more Obama ads that don't address how he differs from clinton. You hit the difference pretty clearly. But he won't say a discouraging word at all. He doesn't have to saturate us with discouraging words, but he needs to call attention to clinton's games. The people who have turned away from clinton are those that have been paying close attention to what has been going on in the campaign. That's not enough people to completely turn the tide in PA and Indiana.

To those who have NOT been paying close attention, it all boils down to a battle between two people with good policy statements - only differing in physical appearance. Don't let him off the hook for allowing this perception to remain in place. He hits her - effectively and accurately - in stump speeches... we need him to put a few of those on the air. She has no money to counter it, so he has no excuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 04/14/2008

Check out the HuffPo homepage, the article where Obama adresses "Annie Oakley"...it is a video of Barack talking to a room of steelworkers in PA. He does not attack first, one of the things I respect about him....but don't mess with him, because he has one hell of a counter-punch! Barack Obama is nobody's doormat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 04/14/2008

Nevertheless, Obama should have nothing to do with responding to Rodham any longer. His attention only elevates her while bringing himself down to her level. The fact is, she has been behind him since Iowa and not one single day has ever passed where she has made up ground. He will be the nominee, and he should be focusing his attention and comments on the very vulnerable Mr. McBush - not on Rodham.

After the next and final (I hope) "debate", the Obama campaign should relegate anything and everything done or said by either Clinton to the rear view mirror, because that's where it belongs.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 04/14/2008

I have to agree with this 100%.

I know he is not supposed to run a negative campaign but I feel he really needs som ads that hit her HARD on her lies and deceptions, on her OWN elitest pandering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 04/14/2008

Hillary Clinton is naturally trying to destroy Obama in the hopes that even should he win she will have carved him up enough so that McCain will beat him. She can then take over a fully corrupted democratic party with her at the helm in 2012. She will then come out of the closet and confirm to the world that she really is a neocon moron.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 04/14/2008

But we won't support such a party in 2012, will we? So it's doomed from the start. Clinton "Democrats" alone can't carry a party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 04/14/2008

It's a hostage crisis. She's telling super delegates that if they don't start coming her way, and fast, she's going to take Obama apart piece by piece until there's nothing left. This is her, 'do as we in the DLC tell you or you're gonna get hurt' ultimatum.

So the question I have is, will Obama (see my threads below) man-up and take her to task for her games, or will he stubbornly leave his hands on the table, letting her to hack off a chunk of his fingers every other day? So far, he's shown me that he'd rather get taken apart like Gore and Kerry were dissected by rove's lies and misleading crap. She, like bush, is emboldened by an opponent who is unwilling to take her to task. I'm quickly losing my patience with him for that reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/14/2008

Truth is, that if Obama took on clinton's Yugoslavia claims and the other sickening rove-style lies in some of his 60-second ads spots, her numbers would plummet. I've been saying it since day 1 - if you want to fight repugs (like clinton and mccain), then you have to highlight their lies in public. If you intend to run a 100% "feel-good" campaign (i.e. no tough words against your opponent) in the General Election, you will lose. This is the culmination of all my worst fears about Obama. If he's determined to call none of his opponents on the carpet and run purely as a "unifier," he is toast. If he runs as a "problem-solver" who's ready to show that the other person can't solve problems whilst a pathological liar - then he should cruise to victory.

If hillary wins the nomination, she's toast regardless. All mccain will have to do is run the spot(s) that Obama should be running now and he's in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 04/14/2008

I don't think for a moment that his campaigning style against a fellow democrat will be the same for a republican. McCain will not be so lucky. It is clear that he is purposely trying not to bring out her garbage (and we all know that she has tons of it.) Let"s be real here. There are Obama rules- don't say anything negative even if it is true. The last thing he needs is her playing the victim card again. And then there is the Clinton rules- do and say whatever you want because apparently that's being tough...when you are female.

Slow and steady...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 04/14/2008

I hope you're right, but as evinced by the Gore and Kerry campaigns which sought the moral high ground, that is the hardest way to win. Truth is, absent objections to repeated lies, the lies become accepted fact. There is ample scientific evidence to prove it.

Calling someone a jerk over and over is no way to win. And I don't advocate lying about another candidate - nor ignoring the need to address policy issues. But allowing lies from an opponent to become fact - and allowing serial liars the ability to generate/maintain any credibility - is a fast and easy way to lose.

Like I said before, insisting on never saying anything "negative" about anyone is a totally counterproductive way of reducing your ability to fight... the proverbial tying your hand behind your back. It's a very bad plan and ignores history and science. As disgusting as clinton is, she at least is pragmatic enough to see the science behind the rove victories. It's an understatement to observe that it's "winning ugly," and it DOES have a chance to backfire. My urging is to make damn SURE it backfires... and NOW!