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Armenian Genocide: Dangerous Pity

Posted: 01/25/2012 3:31 pm

The law punishing the denial or outrageous minimization of the Armenian genocide of 1915 has been adopted by the French parliament. In this pre-electoral period, the Senate has decided to reconsider its earlier rejection of a text whose purpose was identical. Let us hope that the passage of this law by the French parliament will soothe the moral wounds that the Turkish authorities' obstinate refusal to recognize the Armenian genocide of 1915 has caused the victims. I know, from my own personal experience, how cruel negationism is for the descendants of the victims of a genocide. But apart from this therapeutic function, I believe this law will bring only difficulties, including those that will afflict the Armenian community itself.

Let us suppose, for example, that a Turkish high official or specialist of public law questioned, in France, about the Armenian genocide should offer the official Turkish version of events. The Armenian associations will file suit in the French courts. The individual prosecuted will not fail to point out that the law is unconstitutional as it conflicts with his liberty of opinion and expression, as based upon the QPC (Priority Question of Constitutionality). In the debate, the Constitutional Council will necessarily be obliged to consider the question of the constitutionality of the memorial law of 2001 recognizing the Armenian genocide, as it has never been compelled to do so before. If, as a number of jurists, particularly the doyen Vedel, who expressed his viewpoint in 2002, believe this law of 2001 is tainted with unconstitutionality, both the memorial law of 2001 and the current repressive law will disappear from our legal statutes at the same time. This judicial boomerang will turn against its authors. Law will prevail and take vengeance on politics.

II.

Parliament does not have the competence to dictate history, as was excellently expressed by Pierre Nora and the members of the Liberté pour l'histoire association. Only totalitarian regimes accept an official line of history, determined by the powers that be and imposed by the judge. French justice offers others means of condemning those who would forge history, who fail in their scientific duty to intellectual honesty, rigor, and objectivity in their work. But it is not up to French legislators to put themselves in the place of historians and judges by proclaiming, in a French law, that a crime of genocide was committed in Asia Minor a century ago.

Judicial authority is the only one competent to declare if a crime has been committed and who its perpetrators are. Thus the Jewish genocide by the Nazis was established by the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg. This tribunal, in which French magistrates participated, was the result of the London Accords, signed by France in 1944. The judgments of Nuremberg were considered res judicata, hence authoritative, in France. The same is true of crimes against humanity that occurred in ex-Yugoslavia and Rwanda and were judged by international criminal courts. No such thing exists for the Armenian genocide of 1915, committed before the international community became conscious of the moral imperative that butchers of humanity should not go unpunished. But this mission is the duty of international jurisdictions, first of all the International Criminal Court. The French parliament has no competence whatsoever in this respect and cannot set itself up as a universal judge, capable of proclaiming by French law the existence of crimes that, since they are historic, are in no way within the realm of their competence.

III.

This hubris on the part of the French parliament shall not fail to inspire reactions against France. First of all, in the international domain. The Turks are a great people who play a great role, particularly in the Middle East. They are proud of their history, even though it bears the stains of crimes and exactions of all kinds, just like that of all conquering peoples. We can call upon the Turkish authorities to go back over their history, as other European states have done. But to condemn (for that is the implicit meaning of the law of 2001) the Ottoman predecessors of a Turkish state that is our friend, to register this condemnation in our laws, this measure intended to soothe the pain of one will inevitably cause the furor of others. Since we're talking especially about Franco-Turk cooperation that currently flourishes in university and cultural spheres, we are bound to feel the weight of Turkish resentment against this legislative intrusion into an already long ago past.

I do not know if the Turkish constitution allows the parliament to vote on laws concerning history, including that of foreign nations. If such is the case, we should prepare ourselves for a rejoinder on the part of Turkish nationalist legislators proclaiming that France is the author of crimes against humanity committed in its former colonies, especially in Algeria during the war of independence. Will we protest that these tragic events do not concern Turkey? But what did the French parliament do with regard to her yesterday? Our long and tragic history should place us today on the side of international justice. It does not qualify us to appoint ourselves the judge of universal history and the moral conscience of the world.

 
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08:45 PM on 01/29/2012
I am afraid that this Mr. Badinter is not right at all when speaking about inconstitutionality, despite who he was. Lots of constitutionalists agree on this law. Now concerning the turkish negationism, well, my advice would be to leave stupidity where it belongs, and not even care. They are ignorant of their own history, dishonest, and not even able to search by themselves. They are just the instruments of the propanganda of their education. Do not even care. The most famous nazi hunter, in France, Serge Klarsfeld, said, I quote, in a French Newspaper, Liberation, "Whitout the Armenian genocide, the Shoah would not have taken place". Sans le genocide Armenien, la shoah n'aurait pas eu lieu. So be strong. It is of the upmost importance that you, the Armenian of the US makes legal stuffs changing, in the US. Because Turkey will never change without external pressure.
02:06 AM on 01/28/2012
what are you talking and arguing here about, hah people? there are at least 30,000 registered armenians who recently immigrated to Turkey from Armenia. if they felt a hatred from turkish people, why would they move to Turkey then, hah? That's in addition to many thousands of those who always continued to stay in Turkey, exactly because they never felt any oressure or descrimination! why would they stay otherwise? there's an Armenian Anatolian Church in Istanbul which never stopped to function! now let me ask: how many turkish guys can so freely travel to Armenia? how freely can they work there in secure environment, hah? how can they freely attend their mosque in Armenia? stop this crap please and focus on admitting things intelligently. start with www.tallarmeniantale.com :-))
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Joe Goforth
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11:01 PM on 01/27/2012
The French law makes it illegal to ignore "all genocides" including the Amenian genocide which unfortunately paints Islam in a bad way which forces all good Muslims to defend Islam since that is part of the deal for them according to their own religion. I my mind it is like Iran ignoring the Jewish genocide except that we expect more from Turkey- or do we?
11:58 AM on 01/28/2012
Saying that admitting the Armenian genocide paints all Muslims in a bad way is a false logic and has no business in this discussion. Unless one agrees to the notion that admitting to the Holocaust paints all Christians in a bad way. Not only this logic is totally nonsense, it is derogatory to ALL Muslims. This "religious" aspect of the Armenian genocide" is pushed by Turkish nationalists, who are against Islamic ideology in their own country. This is a tactic for the perpetrator to hide behind "religion".

One thing needs to be asserted in this case: this genocide was carried out because of Turkish nationalist intolerance and xenophobia of the late period of the Ottoman Empire. For centuries the Christian Armenian minority was not physically threatened, and were permitted to freely worship their Christian religion. Secondly, other Muslim subjects within the Empire such as the Arabs were as persecuted for being non-Turkiic, and suffered tremendously under nationalist leadership of The Ottoman Empire.

In fact, it is thanks to the Muslim population of Syria and Lebanon that the starving and dying wretched deportees found refuge and dignity.

The Armenian genocide is the result of a nationalist leadership bent on destroying all non-Turkish nationals, be they Armenian, Assyrian or Greek, form its territories.
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04:19 PM on 01/30/2012
Saying religion did not play a factor is just being naive. You are right that nationalistic and tribalism certainly does add to the toxic mix in this sad story.

"and were permitted to freely worship their Christian religion"

How big of them.
07:57 PM on 01/26/2012
What about the truth?

Author seems to have been deeply concerned about the fallout and the sanctity of free speech, and rightly so. But why not the same concern for truth itself? Is that not also important?

Time and again it has been shown that Armenian allegations are simply myths and severe distortions of truths. In fact, isn't that why such legal protection is needed in the first place?
09:49 AM on 01/27/2012
Describing the Armenian Genocide as a myth is a weak way out of facing the truth and admitting what has come to be described as a cowardly Ottoman Turkish attempt of annihilation of an entire race.
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10:50 AM on 01/27/2012
The truth is what the Turks have been desperately trying to cover up for almost 100 years by threatening, imprisoning and killing the brave people that are fighting to expose it!
The fact that your family suffered casualties doesn't make the Genocide a myth.
Many Armenian, Greek and Assyrian families also lost their loved ones, their properties and their livelihoods dues to sytematic killings.
History is NOT on your side. Get over it!
09:52 AM on 01/26/2012
Mr. Badinter, the word GENOCIDE was created by Rafael Lemkin in 1943 just to describe what happened to Armenians in 1915 and what was still happening to the Jews of Europe at the time. Your utter bias and lack of education about this crucial point is appaling and not acceptable. The Armenian Genocide was planned, executed and the leaders of the Genocide were condemned to death in Turkish Courts in 1919. I only wish to add that the mass murderers were trying to wipe out the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians and basically cleanse the Empire from all Christians, just like Hitler wished to cleanse the German Empire he created from any jews.
08:46 PM on 01/26/2012
Given your basic lack of knowledge I would not be so quick to accuse anyone of ignorance. What is apalling is your attempt to draw some parallels with the fate of Jews in 40s.

There never was any Ottoman policy to exterminate a whole group. There never were any such decisions, orders or documents or any evidence of such intent. There were no concentration camps, no gas chambers, furnaces, and no mass killings, not even mass graves! Imagine 1.5M murdered and no mass graves? Of course there were no 1.5M Armenians in the whole of the Empire at any time.

If the intention of the Ottomans were to cleanse the whole Empire of non-Muslims, then why would they try to relocate them to another corner of the country? Why would other Christians and Armenians in the West and in government service were exempt?

At the end of WWI, there were still about 0.25M Armenians left in Anatolia. Maybe around 0.7M refugees in Russian Armenia, Lebanon and Syria. What genocide?

I dont mean to imply terrible things did not happen. Ottoman and Turkish governments have been surely guilty of various vile acts, but Armenian genocide is not one of them.

Do not let the facts disturb your myths though.
09:45 AM on 01/27/2012
Alaturka, your naiveté on this issue is astounding. I guess as a proof you want to see a mass grave of 1 500 000 in one place. what a great argument for your thesis.

For your info, there were mass killings, entire villages and towns. There were concentration camps, crude ones. there were gas chambers, in caves found in Deir Zor, Every time skeletal remains are found somewhere in Turkey, the Turkish authorities quickly seal them or, as it happened recently, flood them before European experts examine them. But these are things you "probably" know but refuse to acknowledge and instead delve into a poor alaturka propaganda.
09:19 AM on 01/26/2012
Whenever the incidents of 1915 come under question,
Turkey keeps bringing up before France the events that occurred in Algeria.
Through this statement, Turkey explicitly confesses to its crime.
Turkey means to say we did it, and so did you. They have been covering up their crime since 1915.

Also the Algerian President recently told Turkey to stay out of their business. Algeria and France made peace.

End of free speech? Ask Turks about their law 301. Thousands of people, mostly journalists have been jailed
due to their so called "freedom of speech.

An ordinary Turk in France will not be punished for denying the genocide,
as the bill is valid only for newspapers, associations and official institutions.

Turkey has no business meddling in another countries' internal affaires.
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12:37 PM on 01/26/2012
Interesting. You're using the same argument of Turkish government in the second part of your own comment.

"End of free speech? Ask Turks about their law 301. Thousands of people, mostly journalist­s have been jailed
due to their so called "freedom of speech."

So essentially you're saying that this specific bill against free speech, but Turkey also doesn't have free speech, so it's ok. Should the countries base their free speech laws on the others that have restrictions on free speech. Should the US just abandon the first amendment because of Turkish law 301?
04:56 PM on 01/26/2012
Turkey did not confess anything by bringing up what France did in Algeria. Turkey said that France is the last country in the world that can judge Turkey about what happened in 1915. Because It is totally absurd that, France sees itself as a judge and despite of its own bloody history in Africa, blames Turkey for committing an genocide(!) against Armenian.

It is also accepted in Turkey that there had been really really bad things in 1915. Nobody refuses it. But not only to the Armenians. Turks, Kurds and other ethnicities had hundreds of thousands of losses. Who killed others?

You said, "Turkey has no business meddling in another countries' internal affaires" but France has it, or? Interesting point of view....

If France really would like to be a pioneer for the human rights and really cares about other people as well, it should first start with its own history...
01:28 AM on 01/26/2012
the authore said the following:

I do not know if the Turkish constitution allows the parliament to vote on laws concerning history, including that of foreign nations. - YES, The Government of Turkey has the same law!... Hence, I recommend you try to read this article with replacing the word France with Turkey.... and see how it comes out...
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03:18 AM on 01/26/2012
"YES, The Government of Turkey has the same law"

Really? First of all governments don't have laws, countries or states do. Secondly I don't believe there is a law in Turkey that prosecutes people who deny any genocide.
11:06 AM on 01/26/2012
No Turkey does not have an explicit law forbidding the denial of the genocide, if fact it is an official policy to encourage the denial of the Armenian Genocide. What they have is far worse than the French law. The Turkish Penal Code 301 is a very effective mechanism to stifle any debate that can be construed as "Insulting Turkishness".

Therefore, not only the Armenian Genocide issue, but Kurdish as well as many issues that the Turks feel "uncomfortable" are effectively controlled and muzzled. That is why today Turkey has more journalists, commentators, publishers and intellectuals in jail or currently being prosecuted than any other nation, including China and Iran combined.
12:24 AM on 01/26/2012
What a poor excuse for being a Turkish apologist. Really Mr. Badinter, Armenians haven't had their "Nuremberg" ? that's why you deem the French parliamentary act as wrong? Have you not heard, or pretend not to know that in 1919 The Turkish courts themselves tried the leadership of the Empire to death for crimes against humanity and race-extermination. You make it quite clear that the real reason for your defence of Freedom of speech is nothing but an appeasement for Turkey. You show a great "admiration" for the greatness of the Turkish people that somehow you think should excuse them from admitting a genocidal crime. It would hurt their feelings you say? How about the Germans aren't they a great nation as well, would you defend their right to come to France and refuse the reality of the Holocaust? What follies I recount?

Mr. Badinter, who are you trying to fool with your overtly biased views!!!
10:46 PM on 01/25/2012
I think France should ban free speech for Turks. All historical foes of Turks, those nations once under Turkish rule (Greeks, Armenians, Bulgarians, Serbs, etc.) should be able to blame them of any crimes, atrocities, fabricate evidence against them however Turks should be imprisoned and imposed tens of thousands of Euros of fines if they try to defend themselves. As funny as it may seem, this is exactly what's happening in France ..the first step
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11:07 AM on 01/26/2012
a) Free speech is already pretty limited for Turks in Turkey... so I don't know why you are suggesting so sarcastically that France should do the same. Look inward before mocking other governments

b) Try "insulting Turkishness" [whatever that means] anywhere in Turkey and see where it lands you! Imprisonment, fines etc. All these things you are suggesting [sarcastically] France to do are a REALITY in Turkey.

The sooner you people come to terms with your past, the better your chances of moving into the future. It's been almost 100 years. Time to face the hard facts.
02:40 PM on 01/26/2012
Turkish people are not happy with 301 law either but I dont know how you can make connection between those two. First of all Turkey recently had a referandum for a new constitution and according to the results such bill will not be exist in the new constitution. On the other hand please excuse for my ignorance but how would french people reach if someone in france insults "Frenchness" Because what I know is you still teach your kids the benefits of French colonialism in the former colonies.
02:16 AM on 01/28/2012
that's getting interesting now with your "It's been almost 100 years. Time to face the hard facts". well, Khodjaly massacre happened just back in 1992 by the armenian occupant troops and it is being celebrated in Armenia against the tears of millions of azerbaijanis. so, why don't you teach an example to Turkey by first admit the Khodjaly massacres committed by Armenia? as you say, that "was" back in 1915. well, your blood-cold vengeance for 1915 in Khodjaly happened just few years ago. want to do a thing about it? Here, let me help you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_Massacre
10:34 PM on 01/25/2012
How is this going to affect the Turkey-Armenia relationship? How is this going to affect the Armenians in Turkey? This law has no positive outcome.
01:59 AM on 01/26/2012
Turkey has the same law.....

why be so biased and Allow one Government to have such a law, but not another....at least a mirror version of it...
09:57 AM on 01/26/2012
And we know what that law caused in Turkey: Murder of an Armenian Columnist! France should know better.
10:00 AM on 01/26/2012
And we know what that law has caused: Murder of an invaluable Armenian-Turkish Journalist. France should know better.
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10:29 PM on 01/25/2012
The author is right, it's always better to cooperate with and give in to bullies for maximum political expediency. It worked so well in the 1940s.
12:52 AM on 01/26/2012
Who is bullying who here you think?
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10:31 AM on 01/26/2012
Türkiye, Erdoğan.
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Annoula
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11:34 AM on 01/26/2012
It's only bullying if the other side does it????
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10:48 AM on 01/26/2012
Ww2 started in the 1930s brainiac
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11:49 AM on 01/26/2012
I know you're not big on history, Marc, but the invasion and occupation of France did in fact take place in the 1940s.
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11:50 AM on 01/26/2012
I would recommend "To Lose a Battle" by Alistair Horne if you're interested in learning about the subject.

http://www.amazon.com/Lose-Battle-France-1940/dp/0141030658/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1327594433&sr=8-3
09:55 PM on 01/25/2012
Imagine: 1915 WW! A young armenian farmer in Anatolia, tired of the humiliations of the Ottomans (he is Christain and the Turks, Muslims) decide to join the Allies i. e Francew and the UK. His loving fiancée and family try to convince him not to do so but...Some Ottomans (Turks) soldiers come an slaught all the people as part of the Genocid ! Our hero, after a lot of adventures(shootings, exlosions, suspens and love with a wonderfull Ottoman girl), manage to escape, first in Paris and then, to America(land of Liberty) from when his grand daughter publish his story ! Taraaaaaa ! An Oscar for me please, keep the change !
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Annoula
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11:11 AM on 01/26/2012
Before you even dream of an Oscar, you should learn some English grammar, syntax and spelling.

And by the way, your fictional story/comment is totally off topic so, try again!
09:46 PM on 01/25/2012
I suggest Hollywood making a movie about those events.....Things would become clearer.
12:55 AM on 01/26/2012
Yes, I hope they also include the story of my ancestors who were completely wipe out including their whole town by Armenians while grandpa was shedding his and others blood at Gallipoli!
01:13 AM on 01/26/2012
Hollywood tried to.... the Government of Turkey STOPED it!... so much for freedom of speech...
11:07 AM on 01/27/2012
Overall in your comments I think you talk with the assumptions. You say Turkey has similar law that no one knows, you try to make connection between 301 and this one, and now you are talking about Hollywood wanted to do it but Turkey stopped. If Turkey has power to stop such people it would also stop France.
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08:53 PM on 01/25/2012
Opinion is a freedom of speech and can not be criminalized
09:14 PM on 01/25/2012
Take some time read about Turkish 301 law then you understand freedom of speech...
02:51 PM on 01/26/2012
Is this the mentality? You have a law against freedom of speech so France should also have one.. Like the children games. By height Sarkozy look like a child that shows he also behaves childish.
01:22 AM on 01/26/2012
I whole heartedly agree... please tell that to Turkey, they passed this law 1st!
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Annoula
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11:14 AM on 01/26/2012
Really?????
How come there are so many journalists in jail????
Do you know what can happen to you if you "insult Turkishness" anywhere in Turkey???
Is that your understanding of "freedom of speech"?
08:36 PM on 01/25/2012
I am wondering why you are not talking about Turkish law 301 that thousand Turkish people are in the jail because the word genocide thousands of Turkish university intellectual are in jails too totally prohibited to mention the word genocide. You should be a shame of yourself defending this criminal regime where until today they are mass massacring hundreds of Kurdish people every day.
You should be thankful that the French, English and Italians defeated this criminal regime otherwise all Europe and you now would be speaking Turkish language. Unfortunately they did not completely punishing the war perpetrator at that time.
I say long live France… Vive la France Vive…
12:57 AM on 01/26/2012
You lost at the first sentence... There is not a single person in jail from 301! You see how easy it is to create myths!
01:21 AM on 01/26/2012
hmmm..

I really don't get why everyone is troubled with France... Turkey passed it first!!!