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Robert Creamer

Robert Creamer

Posted: July 29, 2010 08:38 AM

Ever since the Court handed President Obama's Justice Department a big victory by enjoining the enforcement of major provisions of the onerous Arizona "papers please" immigration law, there has been pundit commentary that the decision will be bad for swing Democrats.

Of course, that analysis ignores that the ruling came from a judge who -- though appointed by President Clinton -- was originally nominated by Arizona's Republican Senator Kyl who has praised her as a fair jurist. And the decision will also likely cause a number of moderate supporters of the bill around the country to rethink their positions.

But there are two major reasons why that that kind of knee-jerk response is just plain wrong:

Reason # 1: The polling on this issue is very clear. The position a candidate takes on the Arizona lawsuit appears to affect the voting decisions of only one group: Latino voters.

The passage of the Arizona "papers, please" anti-immigration law has forced Republican politicians around the country into a political box canyon that does not offer an easy escape. For fear of offending the emergent Tea Party -- and other anti-immigrant zealots in their own base -- they are precipitating a massive realignment of Latino voters nationwide.

According to data released a month ago by Public Policy Polling (PPP), Texas Governor Rick Perry lost his early lead over Democratic challenger Bill White and the race is now tied. The movement from a previous PPP poll in February comes entirely from Hispanic voters. PPP reports that:

"With white voters Perry led 54-36 then and leads 55-35 now. With black voters White led 81-12 then and 70 -7 now. But with Hispanics Perry has gone from leading 53-41 to trailing 55-21....there is no doubt the (Arizona) immigration bill is popular nationally. But if it causes Hispanics to change their voting behavior without a parallel shift among whites then it's going to end up playing to Democratic advantage this fall."

The punditry sometimes forgets that in politics, intensity is often just as important as poll percentages. For many Hispanic voters, the Arizona immigration law is an insult. It is an attack on their very identity. And it is certainly a litmus test that tells a Hispanic voter whether or not a political candidate is on their side -- the critical threshold test of voter decision-making.

The same is simply not true for non-Hispanic voters. As a result, by allowing the Party to be defined by the anti-immigrant zealots -- and refusing to lift a finger to pass comprehensive immigration reform in Congress -- the Republicans are playing with political fire.

Polling show similar dips in support among Latino voters for Republican candidates in California and Colorado -- and a whopping drop in support for the Republican Senate candidate in Nevada.

Polls show that voter decisions among persuadable voters in swing districts without large Hispanic populations will be determined by questions about the qualities of individual candidates, and whether or not voters can be convinced to hand the keys back to the gang who just two years ago wrecked the economy.

Remember all the Tea Party and anti-immigrant activists are not persuadable voters. Democrats were never going to get any of their support. For persuadable voters, immigration will not define candidate choices among voters who are not Hispanic.

Reason #2. Completely apart from the impact the Arizona law has on persuadable voters, it will have an energizing effect on mobilizable Hispanic voters -- voters who would vote Democratic but are unlikely to vote unless they are mobilized.

Until the Arizona law came along, may Hispanic voters were demoralized by the difficulty of passing promised comprehensive immigration reform.

The passage of the Arizona law changed the equation. On a party line vote, Republicans did something in Arizona that was a fundamental assault on the Latino community. Republicans across America have endorsed it. But what is just as important, the Democratic President took up the battle to defend the community -- and just won a major victory.

The Arizona law is far from dead. A full trial on the merits of the law remains. But in enjoining its application, the judge found the Obama Administration is likely to win on the merits with respect to the unconstitutionality of key sections.

The anger of the Latino community at Republicans, coupled with the sense of empowerment that they -- and the President -- could take on the law and win -- will certainly energize Hispanic voter turnout this fall.

But you say, this election is about swing districts and there aren't many Latino's in swing districts. Think again. An analysis of the major swing districts -- known in Democratic Party parlance as Frontline Districts (with Democratic incumbents) and Red to Blue districts (with Republican incumbents) shows the following:

House

  • There are an estimated 1,009,398 Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters in the 57 Frontline and Red to Blue Districts. (Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters are defined as voters who would likely vote Democratic but are unlikely to vote unless they are mobilized).
  • Twenty six of the 57 Districts have more than 10,000 Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters.
  • In 17 of the 57 Districts, Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters constitute 9% or more of the total expected turnout in the race.
  • Overall Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters constitute 8.03% of expected turnout in the 57 Districts combined. That means these voters constitute more than a sixth of the total vote a candidate needs to win.

Senate

  • There are an estimated 5,603,697 mobilizable Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters in the 19 swing Senate states.
  • Twelve swing Senate states have over 50,000 Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters each.
  • In eight of the 19 Senate states, Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters constitute 9 percent or more of the total expected turnout in the race.
  • Overall Democratic Mobilizable Hispanic Voters constitute 11.61% of the expected turnout in the 19 states combined. In other words, in the average Senate state this vote constitutes more than one fifth of the number of votes a candidate needs to win.

The impact of the Hispanic vote will be particularly pronounced in swing Senate states such as Nevada, California, Illinois, Colorado and Florida. It will have an impact in Connecticut, Ohio and even Indiana and North Carolina..

Bottom line is clear. On balance, the Arizona law suit -- and the Obama legal victory -- is good news for Democrats.

Robert Creamer is a long-time political organizer and strategist, and author of the recent book: Stand Up Straight: How Progressives Can Win, available on Amazon.com.

 
 
 
Ever since the Court handed President Obama's Justice Department a big victory by enjoining the enforcement of major provisions of the onerous Arizona "papers please" immigration law, there has b...
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rafaelkafka
"Dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum!"
10:28 PM on 08/02/2010
More illegals, more votes that's why democrats never did anything against illegal aliens.
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DFutureIsNow
09:45 AM on 08/01/2010
This is excellent news.
05:06 PM on 07/31/2010
The economy was circling the drain before the last inauguration... Remenber or is that short term memory thing popping up again?
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04:23 AM on 08/01/2010
Must be your long term memory problem. Remember that this economy began its nosedive in 2007. Remember that it was Bush who began the bailouts. Remember that these continuing foreclosure crashes were being predicted in mid-2008. Remember? Naw, too inconvenient.
08:09 PM on 08/01/2010
Isn't that what I said!?!
04:37 PM on 07/31/2010
Could some one help to come up with a dictionary of terms that will get a post kicked, I really do try to be civil and promote discourse. But, the banned word rules are frustrating to say the least.
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04:25 AM on 08/01/2010
A moderator isn't the only one who can click on your flag. Some people seem to browse through the comments looking for candidates to flag.
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BobJacobson
"The Future: Live it, or live with it." - Firesign
04:36 PM on 07/31/2010
This is an interesting conversation. The rightwing types pass the baton around but their arguments are usually the same -- with the exception that some are more elite in tone than others. Yeah, it could be that suddenly Huffington Post is the favorite destination of rightwing loonies, but I suspect that this is an interesting example of (a) multiple identities being assumed by the same people (who often have a spate of new comments but no Friends or other distinctions, real hit squad types; and (b) orchestrated efforts to tie up the conversations. I note that the newbies add little new insight but exist basically to repeat cant and throw wrenches into ongoing conversations. Very clever stuff.
06:08 PM on 07/31/2010
In my little experience with politics on blogs, the right wingers (i.e. not paid, just true believers) show up and speak their little minds, in the hopes of perhaps swaying some voters, or if not, to muddy the waters).

It's so easy to discover the truth these days. Anybody can Google "thomas.gov" and see how their representatives have voted. But do we? Nope.

It isn't about reality, it's about "feel good" for too many "good average" Americans.

We're shit and we deserve what's coming. Take that down.

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DuncanONeil
07:23 PM on 07/30/2010
A "temporary injunction" is a victory?

Don't forget that Az has been successful at least twice before with laws the left did not like!!
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yweston
We Won!!!! So Get Over It....
03:50 PM on 07/31/2010
And...what were they.
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DuncanONeil
11:21 PM on 07/31/2010
I heard this reported. But since I was only half listening to the reports I missed the cases involved. Thereby I was unable to note them. Several searches have been unsuccessful. Now that does not mean that I heard wrong or that the person was lying, just that I can not find them.

Probably would be easier if the current brouhaha was not all over the darn place or that I could remember the subject. Wait! That gives me an idea! Yes! Here we go: "In a February 2008 ASAP (chat) asap - As soon as possible. article, Eyes on the Workforce: Legal Arizona Workers Act Withstands Constitutional Scrutiny, we discussed the federal district court ruling upholding the Legal Arizona Workers Act ("the Act"). On September 17, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued a decision affirming the district court judgment. The Act, initially passed by the Arizona legislature The Arizona Legislature is the state legislature of the U.S. state of Arizona. It is a bicameral legislature that consists of a lower house, the House of Representatives, and an upper house, the Senate. There are 60 Representatives and 30 Senators. in July 2007 and amended in May 2008, penalizes employers that knowingly or intentionally hire undocumented workers in Arizona by suspending or revoking their business licenses. The Act also requires that all Arizona employers use E-Verify, the online employment eligibility verification program, to confirm the work authorization of newly hired employees."
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Sweetbay
Centrist Socialist
05:57 PM on 07/31/2010
What you fail to recognize is that in 2000 and 2004 Latinos generally voted for conservatives. Your discrimination against them have opened their eyes to your "values".

The democratic party would like to say thank you, but it is a shallow victory to know that there is such open and wide spread discrimination of entire groups still playing out in your politics.

Whether it's a new Mosque, or singling out Latino types, or right wing media smearing the reputations of African Americans in this administration, you have proven once again that you cannot accept that the country has moved beyond your comprehension.

Until the GOP gives up its Southern Strategy, it is moving farther and farther away from the mainstream of America.
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DuncanONeil
11:26 PM on 07/31/2010
Which Americans in the administration have been smeared and how?

The axiom in real estate is "location, location, location" That is the issue in the case of the mosque to which I presume you are referring.

Singling out Latino types? Elucidate please!

Were the country to have moved beyond my comprehension I would have nothing to say.
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
06:58 PM on 07/30/2010
As a left-leaning Independent, I will not be voting for anyone on the Democratic ticket who is in favor of immigration "reform" or any type of amnesty. They sure lost this vote in November!
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yweston
We Won!!!! So Get Over It....
03:51 PM on 07/31/2010
Buh Bye!!
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WeCanDoMore
Enjoying a fact based reality.
04:06 PM on 07/31/2010
shoot yourself in the foot why don't you. There is more than this one issue out there that is critical, and repubs are NOT for the people, they are only for their uber wealthy backers. If that's not you, than you might want to think again.
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jdl51
06:40 PM on 07/30/2010
While Bush and the republicans were in power, 12 million mexicans walked across the border. The republican/tea bagger base said anyone not supporting the president during a time of war was a traitor and unpatriotic. While Bush and the republicans were in power, $6 trillion was added to our national debt after inheriting surpluses as far as the eye could see, a $1.4 trillion deficit was handed to Obama as he walked in the door and the republican/tea bagger base said anyone not supporting the president during a time of war was a traitor and unpatriotic. While Bush and the republicans were in power, we got involved in two wars, one of which was based on false/bad/fabricated evidence which cost us over $1 trillion and 4,000 lives. The republican/tea bagger base said that anyone not supporting the president was a traitor and unpatriotic. So now when a new administration comes in and tries to fix all the messes the previous republican administration left, the republican/tea bagger base calls that administration unpatriotic and traitors. No wonder our country is in trouble.
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Batousghost
bon vivant
07:05 PM on 07/30/2010
There are very many simpletons in the land, 'tis for sure.
marilyn 63
LEVEL ONE NETWORKER
09:44 PM on 08/05/2010
exactly these people have selective amnesia!! couldn't remember all this when Bush was in and caused it .NOW THEIR WOKE AND DAM WELL WANT OBAMA TO FIX EVERYTHING THAT'S BROKE NOW!!!
05:10 PM on 07/30/2010
Obama victory??? Nice try on the spin... The small portion of the ruling that changed will only make the populace hate him even more than it does.
Only the brainwashed think he scored a "victory".
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yweston
We Won!!!! So Get Over It....
03:49 PM on 07/31/2010
You're clueless. Get off Fox News. The Judge blocked the most important parts of the Bill. You right wingers can spin anything. It was a LOSS FOR BREWER. Get off Fox and Limbaugh and into reality. I can't believe what garbage the right wing sells you.
04:32 PM on 07/31/2010
That portion of the populace already hates him. Only the brainwashed believe the hyperbole form those haters.
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Steve Magruder
Administrator, Metro Issues :: Louisville
04:19 PM on 07/30/2010
The reality is that the tea party hippies are really just a GOP enclave anyway. They turn out in elections anyway, and their votes are already essentially counted.

As the author suggests, it's really up to Hispanics, and I would add, independents coming back to their senses after realizing the Democrats are doing a good job to restore the country.
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ClarkOHrepub
BO & Co have Gotta Go!
04:54 PM on 07/30/2010
Good job? 3.8 MILLION out of work since he took office....the MOST importnat role he has over everything but war....and THAT is "good"??????? Its no wonder we are in the mess we are in!
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jdl51
06:28 PM on 07/30/2010
Considering that we were losing over 700,000 a month when he took over from the republicans and are now gaining jobs, economy is growing again, yeah, that is good. Maybe you'd like it back like it was during the good old days of the Bush administration when the economy was shrinking at -6.5% a quarter, but most Americans aren't that stupid.
06:33 PM on 07/30/2010
Clark, this mess has been brewing for a long time through Republican and Democratic administrations alike. President Reagan got it going in earnest when he set the ground for deregulation and then cut taxes for the upper crust under the mistaken notion that a "rising tide will lift all boats." That ideology has been followed ever since and now that they're in the catbird's seat, our captains of industry just laugh at us. They've failed to provide jobs (lift all boats), worse, they shipped our boats overseas. Something's deeply wrong all right but Obama isn't the CAUSE of it, he's the fall guy. I think it would have been much worse than 3.8 million out of work today if Pres. Obama hadn't gone through with the TARP deal, as obnoxious as it was to us, because Wall Street was truly on the verge of implosion.
marilyn 63
LEVEL ONE NETWORKER
09:50 PM on 08/05/2010
you are so right ahhh a voice of sanity!!!! these right wingers make you (for a moment) almost as dumb as they are trying to explain reality. and where were these so called teabaggers when Bush was in and really taking the country down?!!! if they are supposed to be for the little people yeah right!!!!
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Michael Shanahan
03:30 PM on 07/30/2010
The economy is in the tank after trillions in "stimulus" 10% official unemployment, another 10% give up on finding a job, Afgahnistan is bloodier than ever. Charlie Rangel will be soon in an ethics hearing demanding his right to evade taxes, Likely Naxine Waters will soon be joining him. President Obama sues to stop a very popular state bill on illegal immigration, even a majority of Democrats like the bill. The Congressional budget office says will be unable to continue our borrowing ways without a complete collapse of the economy. Democratic activist organizations are all but extinct. AND THE ELECTION IS 94 DAYS AWAY.
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Steve Magruder
Administrator, Metro Issues :: Louisville
04:18 PM on 07/30/2010
Maybe come back from the other side of the Looking Glass. Democrats will do fine in November. And you'll be sobbing.
06:24 PM on 07/30/2010
Then other steps will need to be taken.
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Batousghost
bon vivant
07:09 PM on 07/30/2010
And threatening like little bullies...
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jdl51
04:20 PM on 07/30/2010
The economy was in the tank after Bush and the republicans borrowed $5 trillion, destroyed our financial system, sat idly by as housing inflated out of control due to lax regulation of the banking system, and got us into two wars, one of which was elective. During all this it seemed like a republican sex scandal a month appeared in the press so no wonder no one was taking care of business. Did I forget to mention that 10 million illegal immigrants crossed our borders under the last republican administration and they did absolutely nothing about it, except propose an amnesty? And now you think just 18 months after those clowns left that huge mess that the country is going to let those same clowns back in power? The economy is finally growing again from the -6.5% drop in GDP that Obama was handed last year. He was also handed a $1.4 trillion deficit for this fiscal year on top of a $11 trillion national debt, most of it run up by republican presidents. Republicans are good at one thing, lying about their record and promising to do something about the messes they created. The voters aren't stupid enough to be fooled again although it sounds like you may be.
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Batousghost
bon vivant
07:07 PM on 07/30/2010
Oh, plenty of the voters are quite stupid enough to vote for the rupubs, sadly. And they want to abolish the Department of Education...
02:56 PM on 07/30/2010
If the dems get their wish, we make all 20 million illegals legal. Still don't fix the border. So, in ten years we have another 20 million illegals who also demand to be made legal and the left will cooperate (to get the votes). And so on and so on. How long until WE ARE MEXICO?
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Joann Vallo
Gun Control is Pro Life
03:28 PM on 07/30/2010
And WTF have the pubs been doing to fix this all these years??? NOTHING! Suddenly we have a black president with huge latino support, and this happens. Explain that.
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Steve Magruder
Administrator, Metro Issues :: Louisville
04:20 PM on 07/30/2010
The GOP refused to go after employers employing illegals for decades.
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ClarkOHrepub
BO & Co have Gotta Go!
05:09 PM on 07/30/2010
So lets ignore its happening now....Steve....THAT is one POOR...POOR...excuse!
06:25 PM on 07/30/2010
Thant's BOTH parties steveie
Sergeant
Dress Right
02:37 PM on 07/30/2010
The judges ruling was irrelevant to the impact of the administration's attack on a sovereign state and against enforcing the law. This same admininistration has said nary a word about sanctuary cities who flagrantly flout the immigration law. One can only surmise that this administration is conspiring to avoid enforcing the law. It will be left up to the sheriffs and police.
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03:05 PM on 07/30/2010
"It will be left up to the sheriffs and police. "

The flaw in your thinking is that they do not innately possess any authority in this regard. This is Constitutionally mandated as a Federal prerogative.
03:54 PM on 07/30/2010
That's a false statement:

Article IV (Powers granted to the States), Section 4 of the US Constitution states:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

SB1070 is an "Application of the Legislature" in this particular case used to protect Arizona against domestic Violence.
06:25 PM on 07/30/2010
Then citizens will need to take up arms!
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jdl51
03:05 PM on 07/30/2010
"The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency says it's on track to expel some 400,000 people this year, 8 percent more than 2008 — the last year of the Bush administration."

Apparently the conspiracy you see is not backed up by the facts. And it's the republicans who are blocking efforts to enable employers to verify potential employees' immigration status. I wonder why? As the Indians used to say, they speak with forked tongues. They make a big show about stopping illegals all the while enabling their supporters in the business community who are making a ton of money on the cheap illegal labor.
Sergeant
Dress Right
11:02 AM on 07/31/2010
The deportations are nationwide. This is a law affecting Arizona and the epidemic of violence directly related to gang activity on the border. That should be cause for alarm in DC but it seems it is more a cause for them to try to appease those who aren't even here legally.
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
05:42 PM on 07/31/2010
Granted - 2010 on schedule for 400,000 was is 10% greater than Bush's 2008.

But - 400,000 divided by estimated 11 million illegal immigrants = 3.6% annual deportations.

Like paying the minimum on your monthly VISA card - if we 100% closed the border - at 3.6% annual deportations, it will take over 25 years to deportation all the existing illegal immigrant within the USA;s borders
02:11 PM on 07/30/2010
I've bookmarked this and will have to re-read your piece more carefully, Mr. Creamer. But a couple quick remarks noting first off that your optimism is refreshing. On reason #1. I think the support of anti-immigration initiatives especially as they relate to immigration from Mexico is a no-brainer for ruby red states, perhaps notwithstanding the size of their Hispanic populations. In my red state there are relatively few immigrants (compared to border states) and yet the GOP candidates for US Senate have not been able to race fast enough to the gutter demonizing "illegals." The political ads have been ugly. Will they work? It's almost certain.

Reason #2. Hispanics have been apathetic voters generally and this issue has understandably jarred them. But if it doesn't mobilize them, I suspect nothing ever will. Democrats need to be cautious. Let's hope that any Latinos tending towards fatalism aren't paralyzed by the political demagoguery spewing from the right.
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Joann Vallo
Gun Control is Pro Life
03:31 PM on 07/30/2010
The thing is, this will keep many latinos away from the polls. The hassle they will have to go through just won't be worth it, and trust me, that's what brewer and other pubs are counting on. The latino vote is huge to the outcome of elections these days.
05:44 PM on 07/31/2010
Joann, if you have any clout whatsoever, especially in Arizona, use it. If Hispanic-Americans will not stand up for themselves, they cannot expect anybody else to do so. Law of the jungle.

As for legal citizens not being oppressed, perhaps we need Jimmy Carter to oversee elections in that third world country, commonly known as "Arizona."
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
01:27 PM on 07/30/2010
This makes democrats look like they want illegals in the country. More and more it also looks like Democrats want to give illegals amnesty. I'am a Democrat and right now i will not vote for a Democrat.

I will not vote for Obama again because i hoped he would end the wars, and provide health care for all Americans, now this thing with illegals. If he wants illegals in the country just say so, so we know where he stands.
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02:09 PM on 07/30/2010
So are you not going to vote along with the majority of Americans?
Both sides are stupid, I don't vote.
bert70
I'm now 74, time flies when your having fun.
02:34 PM on 07/30/2010
I'm a native American, and I wonder about you. Who are you to want to keep illegals out of our country? Also think about this , Arizona , New Mexico, Colorado, California, Oregon, and Texas, used to belong to Mexico, that is before the U.S. invaded it . Therefore, those Mexican/illegals, are also native Americans. Where are you from? And to think that you would change your vote to the party that has wreaked this utter distruction on our democracy is appalling. You would vote to give the country back to the Rich? I don't understand your thought process.
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Joann Vallo
Gun Control is Pro Life
03:32 PM on 07/30/2010
fan #5
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ClarkOHrepub
BO & Co have Gotta Go!
04:48 PM on 07/30/2010
Bert....get the Fn chip off your shoulder already. Your GGGGGGdaddy OK'd the USA. Get over it.

We have laws today Bert....they say people MUST immigrate LEGALLY. They can't sneek here and claim its because someone asked them to work...that's another crime...and then think they have a right to stay!

Unless the SCOTUS lets this ride, I am seriously thinking of moving to AZ to join the growing rebellion against amnesty. Its getting to that point sir...and I can promise it WILL get very, very, ugly. If the SCOTUS tells the Fed to do its job and shut up....I, and a BUNCH of others will be holding them to it...or do it ourselves. Yeah..its THAT bad.