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Robert Greenwald

Posted: June 6, 2010 12:47 PM

It's Always a Bad Year to Get Out of Afghanistan

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Watch Rethink Afghanistan's latest video: Worse Than Vietnam?

On Monday, June 7, 2010, the Afghanistan War will complete its 104th month, replacing Vietnam as the longest war in U.S. history.

That's an incredible investment of blood and treasure, and one that deepens by the minute. We're spending $1 million per troop, per year in Afghanistan. To date, Congress has approved almost $300 billion in spending on the Afghanistan War. Combined with the costs for the war in Iraq, we've spent more than $1 trillion so far on war since 2001, just in direct costs. Right now, Congress is considering charging the U.S. taxpayer another $33 billion to pay for an ongoing troop increase.

And, don't forget that more than 1,000 U.S. troops have died so far in this war. 

Most Americans now say that the Afghanistan War isn't worth the costs. They're right.

According to CNN:

[T]he Department of Homeland Security says 'the number and pace of attempted attacks against the United States over the past nine months have surpassed the number of attempts during any other previous one-year period.'

After 104 months of war, the last 12 of which saw the U.S. triple the number of troops in Afghanistan, attempted terror attacks against our country are at an all-time high.

No one in their right mind would look at the costs and the "benefits" of this strategy and think, "Yes, I want to sink more human lives and national wealth into that!" U.S. policy in Afghanistan is broken. Inertia carries it forward, not return-on-investment.

We've seen this kind of inertia before. Pentagon Papers whistle-blower Daniel Ellsberg explained it in 1971: "It was always a bad year to get out of Vietnam." President Obama has set at start-date for a withdrawal, but no end date. 

If we're not careful, we'll find that it's always a bad year to leave Afghanistan, too.

As shown in the latest video from Brave New Foundation's Rethink Afghanistan campaign, people across partisan lines and ideological camps are coming together with a simple message: Enough is enough. More than 32,000 people are working together on our Facebook page to spread a simple message: It's not working, and it's not worth the cost.

There's no excuse for letting this disaster drag out any longer. Join Rethink Afghanistan on Facebook and help us shut it down.

 
 
 

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08:05 PM on 06/08/2010
I have heard many people blaming the current administration for Afghanistan, they forget that it is George W's war that he ignored so he could attack IRAQ.
04:31 PM on 06/07/2010
Oh yes there is an excuse for letting this disaster drag out longer.
Serbian military analyst and an authoritative expert on the situation in Kosovo, Milovan Drecun says that, according to the Europol and Interpol, the largest amount of heroin is delivered to Europe from Afghanistan via Kosovo. According to some estimates, some 65% of all the world’s heroin is channeled through the former Serbian province; while 90% of all drugs that reach Europe are shipped via Kosovo.
Officially, the Americans are working hard to stamp out heroin production in Afghanistan, but in reality they, namely the CIA, are using the proceeds from the drug trade, including the illegal drug traffic to Kosovo from Afghanistan which is facilitated mainly via the Bondsteel Base, to replenish their secret coffers, at least that’s what American newspapers have recently been writing about. Milovan Drecun reports.
Other reports mention a U.S. connection with a member of the terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army and a close friend of Kosovo Premier Hashim Taci who are believed to have been smuggling up to 150 kilos of heroin and cocaine at a time. These criminals were chummy with a café owner close to the Bondsteel Base and were doing business with the American officers there, Milovan Drecun adds.
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09:42 PM on 06/07/2010
Following that chain of logic we should invade Mexico and Columbia. Organized drug cartels run rampant in those countries and they are the main suppliers of cocain and other drugs to the U.S.
04:22 PM on 06/07/2010
After 9/11 we could have decimated the small band of fanatics in the mountains of Afghanistan and then told Israel we will no longer be their sugar daddy and that they must work out a just peace with the Palestinians which would have won us much international support even among muslim nations. From there we could have worked with international police and intelligence services to head off other attacks. Instead the neocons began a massive campaign of disinformation using corrupt journalists and corporate media to work the public into a panic over Sadam Hussein which ended with the invasion and occupation of Iraq which is still going on today. Now we are working with Israel on another campaign of disinformation using corrupt journalists and corporate media to promote war with Iran. I hope the public doesn't buy this propaganda but we seem to be quite easily convinced of the need for needless wars.
02:59 PM on 06/07/2010
From a cost benefit analysis for america perspective, I think Greenwald is right. I guess I'm unable to take such a cold nationalistic perspective - and I don't think Greenwald can either - which is why he tries to justify his anti-war stance further from a more humanitarian perspective. Unfortunately he is afraid to weight his humanism against his anti-war ideologies - and just fallaciously argues that the war has no benefit for the afghan civilians.
02:50 PM on 06/07/2010
I suspect we are in the early stages of a world war that could last at least another 50 years, as two incompatible ideologies collide in many countries, and in many ways.
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hagagaga
My comments are funnier than yours.
01:51 PM on 06/07/2010
We wouldn't have as many problems in Afghanistan if George didn't decide to finish his father's work.
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terry63
01:40 PM on 06/07/2010
Cont. He watch's as we clear one province of Taliban, and then announce to the world that six months later we will clear another, He simply moves ut of that village leaves a few marters there to die. Then after we come and go, he just moves back in. He wonders if we are insane.
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01:37 PM on 06/07/2010
The similarities of Afghanistan and Vietnam are few, however huge in their meaning.
In Vietnam we attacked a country that had already repelled every invading force brought against it, the most recent, Japan and France. We fought a defensive war of politics and policy. We were not allowed to bomb certain areas such as Hanoi, Guess where the enemy kept its goods. We were only allowed to fly in a narrow corridor , in and out of the main land, Guess where the NVA,set up their anti aircraft.
We were dropping 100,000 dollar bombs on grass huts. We had terrible leadership, and the generals were mostly yes men, for the white house. We could have had Vietnam at any time , How do I know? I know because we won every major battle we fought.We lacked the will, and the enemy knew it and capitalized on it.
We have done great things for the Afghan people, but now we seem to be slipping, our treasury is bankrupt. we have fought a Political war of policy against an enemy that knows we are not serious, he is about to see a Mosque, Built on the very spot that he dealt us the heaviest blow in this war, He know's we are soft , He knows that our public officials are so corrupt that they would allow this. He is re, energized by it.
01:32 PM on 06/07/2010
"For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... Now a non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia - and America's global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained.”

_ Zbigniew Brzezinski
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Educ yourself re David Barton & his followers
01:22 PM on 06/07/2010
Do not forget that the US is not alone in this battle. Canada, for example, with 1/10 the population has lost (on a pro-rated basis) the same number of soldiers and is also spending an untold fortune.
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01:28 PM on 06/07/2010
I'm not surprised that this is the case, yet have never heard anything about it.

Thanks for bringing it to attention

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as promised
Educ yourself re David Barton & his followers
02:46 PM on 06/07/2010
I noticed because yet another fatality was reported today, so I started doing the math and it's remarkably similar. I don't know who was PM back then, but at the time he obviously felt compelled enough by the situation to send Canadian troops to Afghanistan. I can only imagine that the backlash by the citizens of Canada is very similar to what is going on in the US.
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General Armchair
What, me worry?
02:46 PM on 06/09/2010
Actually, Canada's contribution, in terms of fatalities, is greater than that of the US on a per capita basis.

Canada has lost 147 soldiers in the Afghanistan war, 130 of them from hostile causes. icasualties.org lists 1108 fatalities among US forces participating in the Afghan war (and all theaters of Operation Enduring Freedom), 827 from hostile causes. Population data: US = 309 million, Canada = 34 million. I think the "hostile causes" figures are a little more reflective of direct contributions to the Afghan war effort. Accidents or heart attacks, stuff like that, happen whether you're at war or not.

Anyway, to date, Canada has lost 4.3 troops from all causes for every 1 million of population, and 3.8 troops from hostile causes, while the United States has lost 3.6 troops from all causes for every 1 million of population, and 2.7 troops from hostile causes.

Surprisingly, the United Kingdom, with a population of 62 million, has suffered greater casualties in Afghanistan, per capita, than either US or Canada. 294 UK troops have died in Afghanistan (4.7 troops per 1 million population), 265 of them from hostile causes (4.3 per million).

And to some extent these figures overstate slightly the contribution, in this one statistic, of the US, as some deaths in other theaters having very little obvious relevance to the war in Afghanistan, are included in the icasualties database.
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General Armchair
What, me worry?
02:53 PM on 06/09/2010
This year 144 US troops have died from hostile causes, against 48 UK troops.
01:15 PM on 06/07/2010
The President, brilliant that he maybe in certain areas, has thought long and hard about our commitment in Afghanistan and he got a lot of advise from a lot people (except me). So I think it is unlikely that he will reconsider his decision unless the public pressure is becoming so enormous that he is required to act. How can that be accomplished? Your efforts are a good start, but unfortunately the general American Public does not get the full picture. I think it might be helpful that the cost of blood and treasure be directly linked to the misery index in this country. If there was a clear path to make people understand that there would be less unemployment, better medical care etc. perhaps that would help. Not one more soldier should have to die because of this ill conceived idea. Thanks for trying.
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12:56 PM on 06/07/2010
Over the past 5 years, I've generally been a supporter of the war in Afghanistan, and felt that Iraq was the huge strategic mistake of the decade; Afghanistan (not necessarily as a state, but rather a geographic region) at least had some sort of tangible connection to the terrorism of September 11th. I think there might have been a window for success in Afghanistan, but the Iraq war put our efforts there on the back burner, and that window had closed. As more time passes, the more it seems that it has become an "unwinnable" war for the United States.

Really, the only way I see a semi-coherent government or "building of a nation" would be if the separate factions were to coalesce around the idea of pushing the United States out; right now, we're playing each side against each other (whether knowingly or not), and while that may make the occupation a bit easier, it also ensures that efforts and treasure spent trying to create a functioning Afghan government will be unproductive and ultimately wasted.

I think the Vietnam comparison is a good one... but I think Afghanistan will be even more difficult to end because of it's obvious connections to the terrorism of nearly a decade ago, and the fact that there is no draft. Without the draft, it's far too easy for Americans to slap a ribbon sticker on their car, go the chickenhawk route, and forget about what the war is costing us.
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
12:34 PM on 06/07/2010
Afghanistan war stems from a larger problem. Even if we were to pull out tomorrow that would "solve" just this war, but you can rest assured that the machinery which causes such wars will just start another one. It is a mistake to concentrate solely on Vietnam or Afghanistan. There is no real solution until we tackle the rationale behind the American empire and all of its associated pieces which are supported by institutional and pecuniary self-interests.

During Vietnam war there was the legitimate overarching issue of Soviet communism which was skillfully manipulated. Now, there isn't even a real threat from anywhere and yet Americans are suckered into supporting these kinds of wars. That only shows you how far we've fallen.

Eisenhower has forewarned us of the dangers from the congressional-military-industrial-complex. Have you noticed that no president ever since has ever cared to talk about this issue, even after leaving office?! Ask yourself, why is that and you will begin the grasp the cancer which has spread across our society and culture. Americans have been skillfully manipulated into supporting it without any questioning.

Concentrating on ending this war is worth the effort but it ought not stop there.
01:31 PM on 06/07/2010
I disagree that "..there isn't even a real threat from anywhere..". This war is being funded by Russia and China as were the other wars over communist control. The only difference is that Iran is the major pawn providing training, money laundering, troops, protection, and possible leadership. The problem is no one wants to admit it since, although Russia and China would like to see the US and Euro economy go belly up. They also realize that their (at least Chinas) economy depends on ours so they cannot devastate us. So they keep us busy by continually fueling this war and/or not helping to end it.
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
02:02 PM on 06/07/2010
If you look hard enough you will find enemies everywhere. ;-)
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BluestateGuyInTX
A Connecticut yankee in Emperor Bush's Town.
12:29 PM on 06/07/2010
Until the MIC has taken the last dollar from our pockets enough will not be enough.
12:12 PM on 06/07/2010
"Our real enemies are not those living in a distant land whose names or policies we don't understand; The real enemy is a system that wages war when it's profitable, the CEOs who lay us off our jobs when it's profitable, the Insurance Companies who deny us Health care when it's profitable, the Banks who take away our homes when it's profitable. Our enemies are not several thousands miles away. They are right here in front of us"

- Mike Prysner (Iraq War Veteran)
12:36 PM on 06/07/2010
And they're in Congress and the White House too.
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'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
01:05 PM on 06/07/2010
Mike---You humble me--- and bravo, to you for speaking the TRUTH.......it seems however. that
supidity will rule .....until we demand otherwise!

(thank you for your service!)