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Robert Greenwald

Robert Greenwald

Posted: June 22, 2010 11:30 AM

McChrystal Must Resign

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For insubordination, for disrespecting the Office of the President of the United States and for allowing derision of the White House among his staff, General Stanley McChrystal must resign.

McChrystal has been summoned from Afghanistan to explain derisive comments and insubordination detailed in a new Rolling Stone article by Michael Hastings. As detailed in the article, the general and his staff were clearly disrespectful of the office of the president, as well as contemptuous of the civilian leadership of our country. McChrystal's behavior and his toleration of similar behavior from his staff breeds an attitude of contempt for civilian leadership among his officers, and no Commander-in-Chief should tolerate it. McChrystal should resign, and the president should accept his resignation.

In the article, McChrystal and his aides heap derision on National Security Advisor Jim Jones (a "clown,"), Vice President Joe Biden ("Bite me,"), and the President of the United States, Barack Obama.

When shown the article prior to it's publication, McChrystal didn't push back:

Eric Bates, the magazine's editor, said during an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that McChrystal saw the piece prior to its publication as part of Rolling Stone's standard fact-checking process - and that the general did not object to or dispute any of the reporting.

My friend, Michael Cohen, cites the United States Code of Military Justice to show how cut-and-dry this decision should be:

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

General McChrystal, his staff, and his friends over at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS) have tried to manhandle this president from the beginning. They've played media games to try to force the president's hand on the most recent troop increase in Afghanistan. Now they've been clearly insubordinate, clearly contemptuous of the civilian leadership of this country. He's corroded respect for the chain of command and for civilian control of the military. He must resign.

If the president wants to preserve a strong White House for the next president, he has to accept the resignation.

Sign our petition calling for McChrystal's resignation. We'll send it to the Pentagon and the White House when McChrystal shows up to explain himself.

 
 
 

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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
respectingothers
07:09 AM on 06/24/2010
Obama's mistake was to not fire him the first time. arrogance does not a good general make.
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j main
Reality is just a collective hunch, anyways.
06:20 PM on 06/23/2010
Something tells me that McChrystal is not someone to be trusted with the task of being a leader.
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Seneca
influences sound government
12:27 PM on 06/23/2010
See http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/23/security-brief-the-politics-of-being-a-top-general/?hpt=C2

Also see Thomas Friedman's column today.

Perhaps this is Obama's opportunity to get the hell out of Afghanistan and save some face. Blame this idiot general and withdraw now.

The idea that we must surge to train Afghan men to fight is absurd on its face.
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Seneca
influences sound government
11:11 AM on 06/23/2010
Forget about what ought to be -- the "right" thing is really orthogonal to politics, anyway. Consider Obama's political choices in this matter. He wants out of Afghanistan and the Pentagon wants not only to stay in there, but to surge again. No war, and the defense budget will sink like a stone, they fear. Take a look at this link and, if there are any serious people here, what is revealed is the 2011 Congressional Budget Office estimate of what all this Afghan operation costs. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billreport.xpd?bill=s111-3454&type=cbo
CBO states it will cost $158 billion for the cost of overseas contingency operations, primarily in Iraq and Afghanistan. In addition, the Senate Defense Authorization Act, S. 3454, would prescribe personnel strengths for each active-duty and selected reserve component of the U.S. armed forces. CBO estimates that appropriation of the authorized amounts would result in outlays of $715 billion over the 2011-2015 period.

To a large extent, politics is the process by which we authorize the expenditure of public money. I do not think politics is a matter of principles -- it is rather a matter of principalsl, which of course involves contention by interest groups over the interest from the principal.
10:13 AM on 06/23/2010
Resign? For telling the truth?

Want to talk about disrespect? How about the disrespect shown to our country by Obama and Congress?
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MoscowMoo
Mooing for a better America
12:36 PM on 06/23/2010
Well, whether it's true or not (which is, of course, a matter of opinion), the bottom line is that military protocol says that you don't disrespect your commanding officer. And, like it or not, the President is the Commander in Chief (i.e., the commanding officer). Do you think the grunts who are taking the bullets would be allowed to similarly disrespect THEIR commanding officers? Would they be allowed to go to the media, challenge their officers' orders, calling their officers nicknames like "Clown" and "Officer Bite Me" in the press? Do you think that they could get off by claiming they were merely telling the truth?

So if the grunts have to adhere to the military code of conduct, please explain to us why you think the officers don't. And, again, "it's the truth" is not a legitimate defense because it sure as hell wouldn't work for the grunts if they tried it.
07:30 PM on 06/23/2010
I was in the Army. I agree with you on some level, yes.
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HANNIBAL1066
I've written on the Tea Party movement at politica
10:00 AM on 06/23/2010
Was he insubordinate towards the President? I'm not sure. Certainly, he made a snide comment about the Vice President.

But, I hate to break it to you civilians who have never served with and around general officers, or, in the military--it is very easy when you are in theater and looking back at DC to see Disneyland East. To see clowns and idiots. To see politicians clamoring over each other to score cheap political points on the Sunday talk shows. To be subjected to pontification from "experts." To be second-guessed by every beltway bandit pundit trying to land another contract to bolster their bottom-line.

It's the nature of the relationship between professional military and professional politicians. The military does take command guidance from the President. No one has demonstrated that McChrystal has not taken that guidance or has not implemented that guidance. That does not mean that McChrystal or his advisers are not going to blow off steam at DC.
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MoscowMoo
Mooing for a better America
12:43 PM on 06/23/2010
"That does not mean that McChrystal or his advisers are not going to blow off steam at DC."

Yes, but if you are truly the "military man" you imply, you would know that there is a right way and a wrong way to "blow off steam." The enlisted guys very often feel the same way about their general officers as you say the general officers feel about the politicians in D.C. But most enlisted guys are sharp enough to know that if they want to "blow off steam" about the general officers, they can do it amongst each other, as opposed to taking their complaints to the media so their commanding officers are humiliated in public. And if most enlisted guys are sharp enough to know this, then I would hope somebody as high level as McChrystal would be equally as sharp. Since he obviously is not, then he needs to be immediately removed from his command.
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HANNIBAL1066
I've written on the Tea Party movement at politica
06:17 PM on 06/23/2010
Almost all of the comments about DC came from his staff or his advisers. His advisers were blowing off steam at DC.

It is interesting that Obama removed him because he wanted a unity of effort and did not keep him due to a concern for continuity of effort.

The Rolling Stone article makes clear that there is dissension and disputes between the White House, the Pentagon, and the State Department. That is why Obama emphasized that he needed his national security team to pull together on the agreed upon strategy.

McChrystal was not disputing the strategy. Nor was he disobeying orders. McChrystal's comments and those of his staff make clear that the war is not going according to plan; that the July 2011 pull-out date is not really set in concrete; Petraeus was making noises that the July 2011 date is really based on conditions on the ground.

What is more damaging in the Rolling Stone article is the pushing and pulling between the Pentagon and State departments. The strategy is not going well on the ground. The morale of at least some of the troops is low. The Karzai government is not a stable partner.

McChrystal said very little that was hostile towards the White House, save for the comment on Biden. What damaged McChrystal was the negative information regarding the war not going well. That he went to RS suggests how frustrated he is with the chain of command. That is why he was really relieved.
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HANNIBAL1066
I've written on the Tea Party movement at politica
09:55 AM on 06/23/2010
I want the troops out of Afghanistan.

But, firing McChrystal solves nothing. The learning curve for a new general will be steep. The continuity of policies will be doubtful. The military's relationship with Karzai will have to start anew. In short, the strategic situation may very well deteriorate.

Whatever he said or did not say about Obama, the Rolling Stone interview and profile shows just how chaotic the situation is in Afghanistan. The Pentagon is not winning and it shows from the statements of McChrystal's advisers. That is the most important information in the entire article. Take out a few quotes and you see the morass and quagmire. Even McChrystal and his advisers know it.

Obama got himself into the quagmire of Afghanistan. He chose to escalate and double-down on Afghanistan. Nobody forced him to make the strategic choices he made. If it makes him feel better to fire the general, fine. But, it will not change the strategic situation (except for the worse).

For Obama, this is now come to Jesus time. He is better off scolding McChrystal and sending him back to theater to get the job done. Or, he can try to pretend this is Harry Truman moment. At least Truman had served in the trenches in WWI. MacArthur had nothing on Truman in terms of knowing war.
08:09 AM on 06/23/2010
removing the general does not change the fact that there is no military option in afghanistan.
07:38 AM on 06/23/2010
I am a active duty officer currently serving in the middle east. What General McChrystal said and allowed his subordinates to say about the President, Vice-President, and all the other government officials was wrong. I won't comment on if he should be fired that is up to the President. One of the tenets of the military is we follow are commanders legal orders and execute them as if we issued them ourselves. What is so egregious is that General McChrystal knows better. He would never tolerate that type of behavior from his subordinates directed at him. I find it quite interesting that no General Officers spoke up during the runup to the war in Iraq. In the military all we have is good order and discipline....once you take that away we are just a mob with guys!
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therealist2000
The day We the People bring down Corporate America
01:41 AM on 06/23/2010
Here is the rub of the matter: Blaming the active military people is not the correct answer. So what is the problem? The problem is American imperialism, driven by Wall Street and Military-Industrial Complex, needs to generate profits for the capitalists.

Under our system, this means that our capitalist-politician arrangements is to blame for American imperialist foreign policy. Those serving in the military, many coming from disadvantaged backgrounds, ravaged by the capitalist system, end up serving as cannon fodder for the profits of Wall Street and the few at the expense of the General public. This monopolization of military power in the service of Wall Street should not be confused with military service people, at whatever military rank, that are called to duty voluntarily or involuntarily, in the sense that the capitalist system leaves them few private sector opportunities.

Corporate media wants to fool the average American on the President-General confrontation, Truman-MacArthur confrontation type media feasting. This helps sales, makes for good propaganda for our most vulnerable citizens, and consolidates ESTABLISHMENT values and interests. Let those of us that are Anti-Establishment not be fooled by Corporate owned media as to the hiding of American imperialism with good sales lead stories of President-General confrontations.
12:28 AM on 06/23/2010
For insubordination, for disrespecting the Office of the President of the United States and for allowing derision of the White House among his staff, General Stanley McChrystal must resign.

Truer words were never spoken

If the president can't trust his generals who can he trust. McCystal is a write off.
12:22 AM on 06/23/2010
*MCCHRYSTAL FOR PRESIDENT 2012!
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SteveSFM
politically incorrect left-winger
12:40 AM on 06/23/2010
I love how the wingnuts are all of a sudden in favor of insubordination when the president has all that darned extra melanin.
01:07 AM on 06/23/2010
SteveSFM wrote: "I love how the wingnuts are all of a sudden in favor of insubordination when the president has all that darned extra melanin."

*Hey Steve! - Your attempt at stereotyping "wingnuts" supports the fallacy of your views.
01:17 AM on 06/24/2010
Wow! How long did it take for a leftist "wingnut" to turn this into a racial issue! Where were you when politicians, actors, journalists, movie makers etc, were saying much worse things about Bush? Maybe all that hatred was caused by his skin color too? And by the way, exercising your freedom of speech doesn't count as insubordination.
12:13 AM on 06/23/2010
Disrespecting the Office of President? That would be what Obama has been doing for the past seventeen months.
12:01 AM on 06/23/2010
For insubordination - no insubordination occured, insubordination is disobeying an order or violating a the chain of command.

for disrespecting the Office of the President of the United States - not a crime, and a specialty of the Left when Bush was President. Shinseki anyone?

allowing derision of the White House among his staff - So while conducting the war and working 20 hour days McChrystal is supposed to be the thought police as well? Derision is not a crime either.

you given no legit reason to fire McChrystal. Obama can do it anyway, but your reasons are not valid at all.
12:14 AM on 06/23/2010
Solzhenitsyn spent 10 years in the Gulag for making a small criticism of Stalin in a letter. Really nothing important. Victor Herman spent 10 years under terrible conditions for being flippant to his interrogators in the way he refused to renounce his American citizenship. This general is just going to lose his command and adulation for probably telling the truth in an undiplomatic Saturday Night Live sort of way.

The President in Chief must not be made fun of. Only by us of course. For how long?
12:40 AM on 06/23/2010
maxtwain - generals may disagree and do all the time. Its part of their job to think and the other part of their job is to obey when they don't like the order or - as Shinseki did, retire. Shinseki was a good officer and has yet to be proved wrong by anyone except the oil companies. All those people dead just so you could have cheap gas. Dubya lied about protecting the museum in Baghdad which he said he would. He lied about wmd and Iraq being a threat. He lied about Al Qaeda being in Iraq (thanks to the invasion Al Qaeda is in Iraq now). Dubya lied about bringinging democracy to Iraq. If you knew square root about the military you would know and certainly McCrystal knows, McCystal cannot be trusted to be in high command. In fact, would you want a general commanding you who shoots his mouth off to magazine like Rolling Stone and then apologizes etc.
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Heartlight3
Every act is an act of self-definition.
01:40 AM on 06/23/2010
Did he apologize? I didn't hear that.
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11:40 AM on 06/23/2010
Yes, W lied about everything. Nancy, Hillary, Barney Fwank and the rest of the wackos never agreed right? We were bringing democracy to Iraq as well. The only thing that you have right is that a general that does not have the maturity, self control, or intelligence to not shoot their mouth off about their boss in front of a reporter probably shouldn't be in high command. Stay on the bandwagon about blaming W for everything though. We're becoming such an entitlement state that nothing is your fault or the dems fault. Only republicans, tea partiers, and Christians are entitled to the "blame" right.
11:47 PM on 06/22/2010
Just take a moment to "look outside the box". Obviously, there's more to this than meets the eye!