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Robert J. Elisberg

Robert J. Elisberg

Posted: October 6, 2009 11:18 AM

Conservatives Go for the Bronze

What's Your Reaction?

When the Olympic host-city vote was announced on Friday, there was dancing, cheering, celebrating, and joy all around. Hugging. Tears. Oh, not for the winning city, mind you -- this was by jubilant conservatives over America losing.

Let's say that again, and be very clear about it: conservatives were cheering because America lost.

It was bizarre. It was, however, not unexpected.

This is a group of warm-hearted souls who have publicly hoped that the president fails; voted unanimously against health care; fought for decades against Medicare for the elderly; against Social Security for the poor, against welfare for the needy. Conservatives have fought against the 40-hour work week, child welfare laws, and minimum wage.

So, honestly, it really was not a shock to see the far right's joy at America failing. "We Got Ours, You're on Your Own, Bucko" tends to be their proud mantra.

Yes, yes, I know they'll insist they weren't against America, this time, but really just celebrating the failure of the president of the United States (and how cool is that?!) -- but make no mistake, they were dancing over a loss for America. A loss of tens of thousands of jobs -- during a recession; a loss of several billion dollars of revenue -- during a recession. Jobs and revenue that would have started immediately.

(Not to worry, they will start. Just in Brazil, though. Not the United States.)

And conservatives danced.

Okay, in fairness, some conservatives had legitimate reasons for being against America hosting the Olympics. "I'm actually for Rio," moralist Bill Bennett acknowledged beforehand. "[I]n Chicago, it's fat people eating."

But beyond the creepy celebrating and disdain, it was the brazen ignorance of the cheering conservatives that was more pronounced. Mean-spirited is one thing. Ignorance perpetuates itself.

There was Glenn Beck before the announcement, in tears that the president of the United States would try to help the U.S. Olympic Committee when asked. Bemoaning repeatedly that Vancouver lost a billion dollars when it held the Olympics.

One problem: Vancouver won't actually be holding the Olympics until this winter. Most likely he meant Montreal. (Such gaffes happen to graduates of the University of I Don't Remember.) But even if he'd gotten it right, his ignorance was glaring. You see, Montreal lost its billion in 1976. Thirty-three years ago. Okay, I know conservatives like to live in the past, but this is obsessive. This is stalking the past. There have been 16 Olympic Games since then.

Worse though, in terms of ignorance, is that in the very next Summer Olympics the U.S. participated in after Montreal, Los Angeles changed the dynamic of how the Games would be run -- and made a profit of $250 million! (All of which went to America. Not Brazil.) And when the smaller Winter Games were held in Salt Lake City, they made a profit of $50 million. (Which went to America. Not -- you know.) Even the last Summer Games in the U.S. hosted by Atlanta, though widely-acknowledged as not being well-run ... they still made a profit of $5 million. Which went to -- never mind.

It gets worse. Conservatives liked ridiculing President Obama for being the first leader to ever pitch the International Olympic Committee and be rebuffed. Except, you see, the truth is that this happened two other times. Mind you, I don't mean happened "ever." I mean just last week alone!

Every country bidding on Friday had their nation's leader present. King Juan Carlos of Spain was there -- they lost. The new Prime Minister of Japan, Yukio Hatoyama, was there -- in fact, so was its Crown Prince Naruhito. They lost, too. A twofer.

Not knowing it, not bothering to find out, not caring at all just points out the obvious what pretty much every American grasps. That conservatives have such a blind, ignorant, hot hatred for President Barack Obama and for anything that isn't them, that they'll sell America down Grover Norquist's bathtub drain just to have their way.

It's pathetic, selfish and greedy. And, alas, par for the course.

This isn't about not knowing about the Olympics. It's about not caring about the facts. It's about an ongoing pattern with the far right. Obama wants to kill old people. Obama is from Kenya. Obama is a Muslim. Obama is a terrorist. A socialist. Facts don't matter. The smear does.

And conservatives danced.

Of course, the reality is that if President Obama didn't go to Denmark, the U.S. wouldn't have gotten the bid either -- and who here thinks that the far right wouldn't have blasted him for not caring about America? Conservatives would have slammed Obama whether he went or stayed. It's just their bad luck that he tried to bring jobs to America, and they had to end up criticizing that. Not that they seemed to mind. It's only the dance that counts.

The reality is that the IOC's selection process has been going on for several years. This wasn't like a last-minute surprise. Of course, if conservatives really want to point a finger at a president for not getting the Olympic bid, a better argument could be made that the rest of the world is still pissed at George Bush. Honestly, that didn't likely come into play much -- but I would lay cash money that it came into play far more than Barack Obama flying in for a day to make a speech.

In the end, though, the problem for conservatives here is short-sighted stupidity. Not getting an Olympic bid is an utter non-issue. But what voters will remember is that, once again, conservatives were working against the best interests of America.

You see, 84% of Americans supported getting the Olympics.

And when it failed -- conservatives danced.


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When the Olympic host-city vote was announced on Friday, there was dancing, cheering, celebrating, and joy all around. Hugging. Tears. Oh, not for the winning city, mind you -- this was by jubilant...
When the Olympic host-city vote was announced on Friday, there was dancing, cheering, celebrating, and joy all around. Hugging. Tears. Oh, not for the winning city, mind you -- this was by jubilant...
 
 
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09:51 AM on 10/07/2009
What I don't quite understand is WHY do they hate Barack Obama so much? What did he ever do to them?
He didn't wreck the economy. He didn't start an unnecessary war in Iraq while neglecting to bring those that attacked us on 9/11 to justice. I understand the disdain for Bush, but what did Obama do to warrant such hatred? He seems like a decent guy who is putting forth his best effort for America. He has tried to engage them. I just don't get it.
01:13 PM on 10/07/2009
"...WHY do they hate Barack Obama so much?"

Tearing down Obama is the only path back to power that most conservatives can see. The reason for that is that between 2000 and 2006, the GOP had power and completely failed to deliver on the GOP promise of a small, thrifty, Constitutionally limited government. They realize that we can't run on fiscal responsibility, not after we went on a deficit-fueled spending spree. We can't run on respecting the Constitution, since we didn't protect the Fourth Amendment.

At this point, it's almost impossible to sell conservative principles on their merit, so the only option for some people is to lash out in anger.
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MajorKong
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07:04 AM on 10/07/2009
I think the part about them hating "anything that isn't them" hits it right on the head.

These people are tribal. Their world view can be simply broken down into "one of us" or "not one of us".
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03:26 AM on 10/07/2009
While you're dissing Glenn Beck for ignorance of the 76 Olympics in Montreal, you appear to have missed the Calgary Olympics in 1988. Granted, Calgary, like Vancouver, will be hosting the winter games. The winter olympics are a much smaller event than the summer games, which makes it harder to lose really big money.

And speaking as a Vancouver taxpayer, I can tell that in this (if nothing else), Beck's claimed billion dollar loss might be premature, but he's unlikely to be wrong. Host cities get screwed; that's one of the eternal verities of the Olympic racket.

I'm positive that the great city of Chicago will be able to find better ways to spend several billion dollars than on a two week party for sports marketers and freeloaders.
11:26 PM on 10/06/2009
"And when it failed -- conservatives danced."

I'm a conservative, and I'm willing to go head-to-head with the left on almost any issue of disagreement. In this case, however, it's hard to find anything defensible in the AFP's behavior. Their glee over Chicago's loss is partisan hatred run amok, no matter how you spin it.

All I can say is there are some of us conservatives who don't see the world that way. We're not all mouth-foaming, science-denying, Obama haters. We don't all abandon our principles just because the other party won an election. We don't all put party loyalty ahead of loyalty to the nation.

Some of us are trying to buck the trend, from big names like Joe Scarborough to nobodies like me. America needs a rational conservative voice, not the torches and pitchforks approach that's come to characterize the movement. Maybe the AFP tape will be the turning point, because that was a despicable display of unpatriotic behavior.

I hate to gripe about my fellow conservatives, but I'm a soldier in the War on Stupidity, and I take no prisoners.
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BryantG
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01:14 AM on 10/07/2009
You my friend, are the future of the conservative movement.
02:30 AM on 10/07/2009
Thanks for the kind words. I believe a healthy society needs conservative and progressive elements, but they have to be rational elements. I keep looking at the GOP and conservatism in general, and I see madness everywhere. It's not healthy conservatism.

The biggest problem is that the irrational, anti-science mindset of the creationists has infected the conservative/GOP axis. That mindset see politics as a sort of holy war against the randy Bohemian hordes of the left. It's good vs. evil with trumpets blaring and the Ayatollah Rush Limbaugh cheerleading.

I used to sneer at people who referred to the right wing as the American Taliban. These days, I'm really starting to wonder...
02:38 AM on 10/07/2009
Thank you, and more power to you.
03:07 AM on 10/07/2009
I've been touched by His Noodly Appendage. Maybe that's what makes me a rational conservative. ;)
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09:51 PM on 10/06/2009
Neither of you green background Olympic "experts" did an ounce of homework. First of all the loss of the Olympics was America's loss and it's roots go back to the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. The IOC and the USOC had a bad beef over revenue sharing. Some IOC members said then that it would be 20 yrs before America got the games again. That's why NY didn't get the 2008 games and why Chicago didn't get the 2016 games. Rio is an attractive pick because S. America never had them before, but truth be told Chicago never had a chance.

The stakes for getting the Olympics has gone up. Los Angeles made money, Barcelona made money, as did Atlanta and Salt Lake City. That being said, leaders of nations are under pressure to make a full faith effort to help get the games. London got the 2012 games, partially due to Tony Blair's appearance in Copenhagen. Obama simply put forth an effort that he deemed necessary because all the leaders of the other contenders went to Denmark.
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noaxe397
08:35 PM on 10/06/2009
Good article, Mr Elisberg. Enjoyed it and laughed, too.Have you read Thomas Frank's book What's The Matter With Kansas"?

My definition of an American conservative is someone who believes you are entitled to what you want as long as you pay for it yourself.

Remember Eric Cantor's reply at his sole town hall meeting to the woman whose friend had cancer and no insurance? Basically, it was "sell all you own, then qualify for Medicaid and charity."
09:14 PM on 10/06/2009
Yes, the idea that you are entitled to what you want if you pay for it is incredibly bizarre.
Silly neocons, with their outmoded ideas on private property and stuff.
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noaxe397
08:52 AM on 10/07/2009
You lose your job and your healh insuance and after 6 months you have no savings left. then you have a heart attack and are rushed to the emergency room.

Who pays?

Siily liberal notion that we just don't let people who are in tough situations die in the streets.
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unitron
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01:04 AM on 10/07/2009
The difference between conservatives and liberals?

Liberals are afraid you won't get something good which you do deserve or that you will get something bad that you don't deserve.

Conservatives are afraid that you'll get something good that you don't deserve, or that you won't get something bad that you do deserve.
06:54 AM on 10/07/2009
If you would, please explain using math, how welfare has dropped the overall poverty rate.

Then, we could stop talking in the abstract.

It was never governments role to provide social services to begin with-the entire idea of safety nets came about late in the 19th c. and culminated in the New Deal. Even FDR saw welfare as a "narcotic".

Here's old school democrat, Grover Cleveland, laying it out for you:

http://mises.org/story/3627
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JazzyJim
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07:29 PM on 10/06/2009
The reality is that the IOC's selection process has been going on for several years. This wasn't like a last-minute surprise. Of course, if conservatives really want to point a finger at a president for not getting the Olympic bid, a better argument could be made that the rest of the world is still pissed at George Bush.

bingo.
06:46 PM on 10/06/2009
Of what possible utility is this article?

I mean no disrespect to Mr Elisberg, but it does seem that he has wasted much energy berating US conservatives for their response to Chicago's defeat, whilst entirely missing the bigger picture:

Rio won, because it deserved to win. And we can be grateful that the IOC in this instance, did the absolutely correct thing.
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Robert J. Elisberg
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07:07 PM on 10/06/2009
Thank you for writing, and your thoughts. And you make a fine point if the point of my article was about the Olympics. But alas, it wasn't. I have no interest in explaining why I thought it was valuable to write -- people will like it, or they won't, it's personal choice -- but I will say that the point was about U.S. politics, and about a party that for probably 70 years has tried to position itself as The Patriotic One That Alone Loves America, while attempting to paint the other has commies, socialists and anti-American.
07:25 PM on 10/06/2009
I enjoyed your article and got the bigger point. These dopes passing themselves off as conservatives should be ashamed of themselves, but I doubt they have the capacity for shame...
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K.J. Dwyer
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06:21 PM on 10/06/2009
". . . the very next Summer Olympics after Montreal, Los Angeles changed the dynamic of how the Games would be run -- and made a profit of $250 million!"

In between Montreal and Los Angeles was a glaring omission. Moscow's Olympics suffered mightily when they took the decision to invade Afghanistan in 1979. 62 countries, led by the United States, boycotted the 1980 Games there, while a handful of others did not participate in the opening ceremonies.

The United States, conversely, has yet to experience anything in the way of international sanctions over its ongoing illegal and unjustified invasion of Iraq (displacing 5.4 million people and directly or indirectly causing the deaths of a million more); not to mention its continued use of torture, which alone should automatically disqualify the United States from hosting any such international event.

Chicago's campaign for the Olympics was unseemly. Given our deserved disgrace in world opinion right now, we would do well to focus on cleaning up the mess we've made rather than trying to capitalize on international events celebrating values we have so notoriously degraded.

From where I sit, Obama's participation in the Chigaco campaign was a remarkably insensitive, callow and craven act of rehabilitating the image of the United States without first addressing our grievous international misconduct.

Many Americans were shocked that Chicago was disqualified on the first ballot. Having lived abroad for the last five years, believe me when I tell you, they were the only ones.
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Robert J. Elisberg
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06:52 PM on 10/06/2009
You're right, Moscow was in between Montreal and Los Angeles. I left it out because the U.S. didn't participate, but I should have phrased that better. I'll go back and correct it. I can't say that I agree with your description of Chicago's campaign as unseemly, or President Obama's supporting the USOC as insensitive in the slightest, though. But that would be another column, not here.
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JazzyJim
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07:48 PM on 10/06/2009
President Obama would have been "crusified" by Faux News had he "not" gone. It was a no win situation for him. I'm glad he took one on the chin for Team USA - even if the Republicans do hate America.
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K.J. Dwyer
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08:24 PM on 10/06/2009
Robert,

I'm a fan of yours and read everything you write, but can you seriously tell me that you can't see the international gall of the United States suggesting itself as an appropriate venue for the Olympics when it can't even muster the courage to prosecute its propagators of ongoing torture?

Spain, who had citizens unlawfully seized and tortured under the Bush program, has found the wherewithal to wage a legal battle against the Bush administration, however "the greatest country in the history of civilization" who lectures the world on civil liberties and liberty in general can't seem to be bothered.

We've all put so much stock into the election of Obama and the promise of turning a new progressive page in our history that we've forgotten how fresh all of the damage we've inflicted, and continue to inflict, is. We've also completely let Obama off the hook as he mimics Bush in every practical sense, albeit with soaring rhetoric.

And furthermore, given the fact that we've plunged the world economy into recession, I hardly think we deserve to be "rewarded" with the possibility of capitalizing on an international event like the Olympics.

I'm stunned that I'm the only one who is pointing this out. It seems glaringly obvious.
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JazzyJim
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07:46 PM on 10/06/2009
Kudos and correct. The 1st round elimination is a referendum on our (U.S./Bush/Cheney/Rove) trespasses.

I appreciate the President making the effort given our economy - but our so called title as "the number one country in the world" - was made hollow by Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney and the Republicans of the past 12 years.

We're not "automatic" and have lost the moral and democratic high-ground. The work to rehabilitate is now.
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K.J. Dwyer
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11:28 PM on 10/06/2009
I agree that the time for rehabilitation is now, however when you look at the manner in which Obama has stacked his economic team with the same Friedman hard liners Bush employed, held that anyone who relied on and operated under the "torture memos" would be immune to prosecution, continues to make a mess of the middle east, continues the "don't ask don't tell" attitude toward TARP funding, used and upheld the same language and reasoning that gave us DOMA, held secret meetings with Pharmaceutical reps, now proposes indisputable mandates that all Americans buy private insurance policies and backs off the public option, there's not much sign of rehabilitation.

I'm not so unrealistic as to expect full blown solutions this early in his tenure. However the degree to which Obama has maintained the status quo at a time of true crisis is astounding.

The house is on fire and he seems content to try to extinguish it with equal parts water and gasoline.

I understand the sentiment of many regarding the bid for Chicago, but given our present circumstances, it seemed to like so much more distraction than an honor we truly deserved.
QuietLightTraveler
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06:03 PM on 10/06/2009
The conservatives are just hateful and frankly, stupid people. Who wouldn't want us to host the Olympics. And who in their right mind would cheer that we didn't win the bid to host the Olympics. Besides the jobs it is an exciting event to have the Olympics in your country. Frankly it would have brought much interest and excitement to a population that really needs it right now. The real reason why the conservatives hate Obama so much, is not only because he won the election and that they don't agree with his policies. It is more than that. It is not just sour grapes. They are downright jealous of the man. His abilities and charisma, which outstrip anyone in their party, undermines their confidence in themselves and their party. They are acting basically like little children who envy someone else who has more than them and wished they could be as well liked as he is. This country has changed and has new challenges to meet. It needs to remake its economy, its healthcare system and its energy policies. President Obama knows this. The last thing we need are these delusionary consevatives, with their minds fixed in the past and on visions of Ronald Reagen impeding development of new and necessary policy initiatives by the Presiden and Congress. Really, its time to throw them and their big mouths under the bus.
05:48 PM on 10/06/2009
I cant wait for the 2010 elections in states like Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin, Missouri, Illinois. The ads the Dems and groups like MoveOn.org run will be simply killer. It will be like a hot knife going through butter. I almost feel sorry for any republican running in those states, let alone republicans nation wide having to explain the glee and happiness after our country lost the Olympics.

How Un-American can you be? How can conservatives of the gop spin this in a way that doesn't expose them for their hypocrisy?

I dont see it. I do not see them being able to play this any other way than what it was...pure hatefilled animosity toward, first the President and secondly the state of Illinois, Chicago and the surrounding states who would have benefitted from run off from Chicago.

Another foot closer to to the bottom, another day closer to the end of the gop!
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04:42 PM on 10/06/2009
but Beck, Rush,Coulter, Savage,O'Reilly etc are the uber patriots! There for "the folks". Sadly, the folks actually believe these fools.Personally, I think the talk radio right wing noise machine is inciting domestic terrorism. They did this in the 90's to get Clinton and they are doing it again to get Obama.
04:28 PM on 10/06/2009
If the jobs of athletes are to entertain us with their prowess, then this is just another example of Republicans supporting jobs shipped overseas.
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Emerald1943
01:28 PM on 10/06/2009
I hope that the video tape makes its way into next year's elections. Most of the American people already know just how our conservative "friends" feel about the rest of us! But this was completely over the top! It should be used next year to remind the voters just who wants this country to succeed!

The name of the group is "Americans for Properity"....what a joke. It was reported that $13 BILLION would have been pumped into the economy, certainly not chump change...and that thousands of jobs would have been created. One of these ditzy people made the statement, "We need jobs now!" When exactly did she think that those jobs were going to start...2015? No reasonable person, if they were truly concerned for our economic woes, would have protested hosting the Olympics.

This is really not about the Olympics...or health care reform...or the Clean Air Act...or education...or any other issue that we face! This is about what Mr. Elisberg has referred to as a "white hot hatred" of President Obama....they cannot stand that we have a black man leading this country! How sad!
05:27 PM on 10/06/2009
lets be fair, while I will not deny the litany of racist things the right has said, they are mostly mad because a Democrat is in the White House. The fact that Obama is a strong black leader helps their hatered for sure but the right wing base has for years been told the Dems would destroy the world.
12:52 PM on 10/06/2009
Great article, Mr. Elisberg. I whole-heartedly agree with all of your points on the ignorance and mean-spiritedness of the right wing. Only one small issue, unless you were trying to be sarcastic: last I checked, Rio was in Brazil.
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Robert J. Elisberg
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04:57 PM on 10/06/2009
Thanks very much. And if I wanted to save face, I'd say, "Of course I was being sarcastic!" And then explain the joke why I changed Brazil into Argentina -- and it's really a very funny and clever joke, in fact, that's a play on words and a twist on the concept of different countries and also refers to a Euclidean dynamic. Except the reality is that I had a brain freeze. And you're quite correct. And it's been changed. Thanks. Brazil got the Olympics. And, man, is Argentina pissed off.