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Robert J. Elisberg

Robert J. Elisberg

Posted: February 24, 2011 10:22 AM
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Let's be clear: When Republicans announce what cuts are needed because of America's budget deficit -- they do not actually care about the budget deficit.

Before people can have a rational discussion, they have to agree on certain basic facts. And that's one of them.

Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.

Yes, I know there's going to be a lot of squealing now. How that's not true at all, how only Republicans care about fiscal responsibility. How this is just typical liberal blather. So, as a public service, there, it's been said.

But of course, what is said out of one side of the mouth doesn't mean it matches the reality and facts of the other side. And just because Republicans, conservatives and members of the "Tea Party" corporations have been convinced by what they've been fed, that doesn't make it true either. The reality remains:

Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.

Consider reality:

During the administrations of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, the national debt increased a combined 35.6%. It was the largest debt increase in U.S. history. Mr. Reagan alone tripled the national debt from $997 billion to $2.85 trillion.

Yet Republicans didn't complain, didn't rise up in anger, didn't revolt. In fact, what Republicans did do was lionize Ronald Reagan as a patron saint, the near-God of conservatives.

Under George W. Bush, the national debt increased by a combined 27.1%. The U.S. budget went from a $128 billion surplus to a $482 billion deficit. The national debt doubled from $5.7 trillion to $10.7 trillion.

And there was no outcry by Republicans. Republicans didn't complain, didn't rise up in anger, didn't revolt. Even when Vice President Dick Cheney was quoted, "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." Republicans didn't complain.

Consider, as well:

In Bill Clinton's administration, the national debt decreased. It went down by a combined 9.7%. Further -- he balanced the U.S. budget.

And yet Mr. Clinton didn't become a hero to conservatives, even the vaunted fiscal ones. The mere mention of his name still today causes body twitches.

Consider, too,that in every full administration since Nixon-Ford in 1973 up through George W. Bush in 2008 -- EVERY national debt increase in America has occurred during a Republican administration. And EVERY reduction of national debt has occurred during a Democratic administration.

To this day, Republicans -- that party of supposed "fiscal responsibility" -- slam the Jimmy Carter presidency for incompetence. Yet the national debt went down 3.3% during the Carter administration.

Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.

Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.

And it's probably fair to say that Republicans, conservatives and members of the "Tea Party" corporations don't care about budget deficits either. Regardless of the words from their mouths.

Because the reality is: when Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George Bush all skyrocketed the national debt, there was no outcry from Republicans and conservatives. They didn't complain, didn't rise up in anger, didn't revolt.

And when Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter decreased the national debt, Republicans held only hatred for them.

Whatever reasons Republicans may have for disliking Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, fiscal responsibility and budget deficits can't be among them.

Can't.

Because Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.

It's just a convenient cover for what they do care about:

Corporations. Corporate tax breaks. Tax cuts for the wealthy. Protecting the insurance industry. Getting rid of Social Security. Cutting Medicare. Dismantling healthcare. Removing unemployment insurance. Abortion.

None of these have anything to do with the budget deficit. Because as we have clearly seen -- Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.

And House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) made it abundantly clear last week, when talking about Americans losing jobs from Republican budget cuts.

"So be it.

There you have what the Republican Party leadership actually thinks about budget deficits and job and you.

"So be it.

But it's worse than that. Because there was something else John Boehner said, even worse, which got much less attention.

John Boehner also said, "I don't want anyone to lose their job" - and then added: "But..."

"But." We all know what "But..." means. It means, "Please disregard the previous statement."

"But," he said. "We've got to make tough decisions."

We've got to make tough decisions.

But John Boehner and Republicans are no more interested in actually making tough decisions than they are in budget deficits. Because clearly, we all know that one way you can decrease a budget deficit is to eliminate tax breaks for the wealthy, or eliminate tax breaks for the most hugely-profitable industries. It may not be the best way, or even the preferred way. But if you really, truly, madly, deeply, actually cared about getting rid of the budget deficit -- We All Know That It Is One Way.

But Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit. Or else it would at least be on the table. And not filibustered.

They care about corporations. Corporate tax breaks. Tax cuts for the wealthy. Protecting the insurance industry. Getting rid of Social Security. Cutting Medicare. Dismantling healthcare. Removing unemployment insurance. Abortion.

And yet that statement of House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) was not the "even worse" one. It's what he said after he left the microphone and walked off stage.

"I can't believe I just said that."

Even John Boehner knows that what comes out of his mouth is a sham.

Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.

Or you.

 
 
 
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12:26 AM on 02/25/2011
Neither party really cares about the debt. Both sides are complete failures/liars on this issue. Otherwise they would cut a trillion in spending AND raise a trillion in taxes tomorrow. Neither side sees this as an option. Both sides just want reelection and thus we have the status quo. $14 trillion in debt and counting. The only way that debt is going away is by defaulting on the loan. Of course, that is the American way.

Time to brush up on you Chinese, it is just a matter of time.

PS Boehner, where are the jobs?
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"We are all Keynesian's now" Milton Freeman
12:37 PM on 02/25/2011
Wrong, President Carter reduced the national debt; Walter Mondale ran on a promise to raise taxes to reduce the debt; President Clinton left office with four consective years of budget surpluses. The evidence shows that one party is serious about the debt and the other is ( I don't know)
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04:44 PM on 02/25/2011
Your evidence is wrong. Both of those Presidents left office with a higher debt than when they started. These numbers are right off the US treasury page. I give Clinton credit for at least managing two years of budget surplus, but the debt still rose.

US DEBT
06/30/1976 * 620,433,000,000.00
09/30/1980 * 907,701,000,000.00

09/30/1992 4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

The real frustration is that Obama allowed the extended tax cuts for the millionaires and billionaires. He should of vetoed that bill!

PS Boehner, where are the jobs?
12:25 AM on 02/25/2011
This essay could serve as a winning speech for any candidate at any level of office running against a republican, conservative, or member of the Tea Party corporation.

"Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.

"Or you.

"They care about corporations. Corporate tax breaks. Tax cuts for the wealthy. Protecting the insurance industry. Getting rid of Social Security. Cutting Medicare. Dismantling healthcare. Removing unemployment insurance. Abortion."
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Helloise
Healthy skeptic admires reason, trusts intuition
09:49 PM on 02/24/2011
Good on you, Mr. Elisberg. The really sad thing is that besides doing anything to avoid doing what they said they would to create jobs, they are really just caving to the demands of the tepee's, who have a student council view of economics, "Listen guys, we only have $50.00 left in the entertainment budget and that won't cover the band and dixie cups."
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libnproudof it
Consumers are the real "job creators."
05:15 PM on 02/24/2011
And for some reason the GOP has been able to keep the mantra of fiscal conservatives. That's the biggest joke and I can't believe people haven't seen through the BS yet. After all these years....God Bless America
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oldlib127
"We are all Keynesian's now" Milton Freeman
12:43 PM on 02/25/2011
The right wing echo chamber keeps the propaganda stream overflowing with their truth. The gullible fools were raised when the Republican party had some
04:49 PM on 02/24/2011
True. But is not the proper response with Obama and the current Democrats that tradition is all gone?

Obama is the SuperBush.
04:18 PM on 02/24/2011
Its a misnomer to call what the repubs have been doing as ADD. They, in fact, pay a lot of attention to what they do. The repubs have a very clear agenda where the ends justify the means, any means. The recent attempts by Walker to fool the dems by offering to 'talk' yet having no expectation of any negotiation at all is a recent, although relatively minor, example. The build up to war in Iraq is another example where they got what they wanted but at the cost of over 5000 American deaths. So the 'misleading' and spinning about repub fiscal expertise is just another tool used to get them where they want. Remember their mantra - a lie repeated enough times becomes the truth.
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IOKIYANO
03:24 PM on 02/24/2011
For a clear and graphic look at national debt as share of GDP by president, see

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
03:11 PM on 02/24/2011
The GOP doesn't let facts get in the way of a good story. The problem is, the Dems don't know how to tell a better story.
03:15 PM on 02/24/2011
And how much of a deficit has Obama run up in the last 2 years of a Dem controlled Congress??
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
03:43 PM on 02/24/2011
Some facts for you: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html
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dilgar2000
04:57 PM on 02/24/2011
You put a man in control of a ship with a million leaks in the middle of the sea and expect it to all of a sudden not have water in it?

Also how much of what the democrats wanted to do was filibustered by the party of no? Control of congress means nothing without a super majority.
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
07:05 PM on 02/24/2011
I agree, the dems dont know how to get their message out. If they dont between now and nov 2012 we are toast. BTW a name like that shows intelligence.
02:55 PM on 02/24/2011
How can you claim to have a $128Billion surplus when Bush took office, yet still have $5.7Trillion in debt at the same time.
If I make $100K a year and only spend $60K a year, but still have a $200K mortgage, guess what, I'm still in debt!!!
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IOKIYANO
03:19 PM on 02/24/2011
Don't confuse "deficit" or "surplus", which is one year's difference between expenses and revenue, with "debt," which is the accumulati­on of deficits over time, or your overall financial statement showing what you owe. The US has had a debt since before World War 2. Clinton's budget was balanced and even collected $128B more than it spent, reducing the DEBT by that amount.

Imagine you have a $50,000 line of credit on a Visa card. If you spend $5,000 more than you pay this year, you have a deficit of $5,000. If you do it next year, you have a deficit of $5,000 again, and a debt of $10,000 (plus interest).
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JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
05:35 PM on 02/24/2011
"Don't confuse "deficit" or "surplus", which is one year's difference between expenses and revenue, with "debt," which is the accumulati­­on of deficits over time"

Fortunately, when we consider the performance of the GOP for the last 40 years, whether one considers the debt or the deficit, it comes out the same way, they increased it every time.
03:20 PM on 02/24/2011
yes you would still have debt, but have a budget surplus of 40K... now if you made 60K a year, and spent 100K then you would have a budget deficit of -40K.. it's not rocket science!
02:52 PM on 02/24/2011
Of corse The republicans did EVERYTHING Because the Democrats are saints. Its not possible for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac to have any affect on the deficet or Welfare or cash for clunkers or any of the tax dollar spending programs the democrats have come up with because they are saints and cant do anything wrong........................
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IOKIYANO
03:23 PM on 02/24/2011
Deflection.... No mention of the merits of this argument. "Yeah, well Jimmie did it too!" Must make it OK, right?

You could eliminate welfare and it wouldn't make a dent in the deficit. And what's wrong with Cash for Clunkers anyway? What did that cost, compared with two unfunded wars, unfunded Medicare Part D, and a huge tax cut not offset by reductions in spending?

The facts don't lie. See http://zfacts.com/p/318.html for a graph of debt by president.
06:04 PM on 02/24/2011
Fanned.
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07:20 PM on 02/25/2011
The problem with cash for clunkers was that the new cars bought still had CRAPPY gas mileage. It should have been, buy a car with 40 mpg and we will buy your guzzler. VERY disappointing program except for the auto makers that are really controlled by the oil companies. The technology is there for great mileage, what is really holding us back? OIL COMPANIES!

PS Boehner, where are the jobs?
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Appleblossom
03:30 PM on 02/24/2011
Well, I can explain why the Dems are not nearly as responsible but I have a feeling you will refuse to listen.
02:46 PM on 02/24/2011
Thank you for reminding us. Of course, we won't retain or act upon it.
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BobHiggins
Living on the brink of was.
02:39 PM on 02/24/2011
Exactly, What Republicans really care about is turning this country into something along third world lines, a two tiered society with a docile working class held in obedient servitude by private security guards and toiling for the betterment of a fat pampered capitalist class living in gated communities.

The country club kleptocracy.

As you wrote "Republicans in Congress do not care about the budget deficit.
Or you."... That's me.
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innerpuppie
The truth is an absolute defense...
02:27 PM on 02/24/2011
Exactly.
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LeftFoLyfe
Another SHOCKING headline in 3... 2... 1...
02:11 PM on 02/24/2011
Thank you for reiterating these points, Robert. The average American still has no idea how bad they're being bamboozled.
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scottellington
My micro-bio is empty.
01:44 PM on 02/24/2011
"Memory is crucial to democracy; historical amnesia, its nemesis."
--Bill Moyers

I guess the attacks on unions and federal funding of NPR and PBS, alternative mainstream media, also qualify them as disposable targets for conservative doubletalk.