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Pander Bears

Posted: 10/21/2012 10:36 pm

Conservative commentators use the term "pander" to describe politicians, usually liberals, who are sensitive to women, blacks, Latinos, gays, and workers who lose their jobs to outsourcing. You might say a lot of right-wing pandering goes on when it comes to the religious right, the NRA, and the anti-abortion lobby. As we heard in the second debate, nearly everyone seems to be pandering to the coal industry.

But the mother of all special interest groups is Wall Street. And the most economically dangerous pandering this year and next is the pandering to the deficit hawks led by America's corporate elite. If you need an emetic, have a look at the website of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation. Or the Fix the Debt Campaign. Or any of a dozen other corporate-led front groups who are urging that America deflate its way to recovery.

Yet we barely even have a debate between the presidential candidates on the question of whether the deficit needs to be cut at all. Both agree that it does. The reality is that the deficit will come down as revenues go up when the economy goes into recovery. If it goes into recovery. But if we cut the deficit prematurely, that recovery will keep receding.

We have plenty of debate on whose budget numbers are fishy (Romney's) and on whether to bring about deficit reduction by slashing social spending to pay for even more tax cuts (Romney) or whether to have a mix of budget cuts and tax increases on the wealthy (Obama.)

The Romney budget would cut spending by about $5 trillion over a decade. The Obama budget would cut it by just under $4 trillion, about 46 percent from tax increase, and 54 from spending cuts.

Of the two positions, Obama's is both the more sensible and intellectually honest. But the Democrats are mistaken when they argue that the deficit needs to be cut any time soon. With the economy weak, we certainly don't need $2 trillion in spending cuts as Obama proposes; if anything, we need more stimulus spending.

As soon as the election is over, if Obama does win there will be a titanic struggle within the Democratic Party. Under the pressure of the so-called fiscal cliff, some Democrats around the president and in Congress will be insisting that Social Security and Medicare will need to be cut, both to appease the deficit hawks in the corporate and financial elite, and as part of a grand bargain with Republicans in Congress.

In case you missed it, the so-called fiscal cliff is a massive and automatic budget contraction set to go off January 1. It is made up of the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and the temporary cut in payroll taxes, plus the chickens coming home to roost from the budget non-deal that Republicans imposed on Democrats back in 2011 -- automatic budget "sequesters" in the form of $1.2 trillion in cuts divided evenly between military and domestic spending.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, all these cuts will kick the economy back into a full-blown recession. But a budget deal that cut a little less would only throw the economy off a slightly smaller cliff.

The idea that social spending cuts will somehow help the recovery is voodoo economics. Social Security is fine until 2033, according to its own actuaries, and would be fine indefinitely if the wages of ordinary workers kept pace with the economy's productivity growth.

And the premise that President Obama and the Democrats should sacrifice social outlays in order to get a grand bargain with the Republicans is also delusional. The Republicans have shown over and over again that they don't do grand bargains. They do "My way or the highway."

The current titanic political struggle ends on Election Day, Tuesday, November 6. If Obama performs in the third debate as well as he did in the second one, it will probably end with Obama winning re-election by a few percentage points and a few key states.

But then, on Wednesday, November 7, the next titanic struggle begins. It has two parts. The first part is for Democrats to keep Republicans from using the fiscal cliff to win what they didn't win in the election -- further deep cuts in Social Security, Medicare and what's left of other social investment.

Alas, the second struggle will be within the Democratic family -- to keep the Obama Administration from giving away much of what Democrats stand for, in a hapless quest for a budget bargain on Republican terms that will cheer the Wall Street elite.

After the cheering dies down, a re-elected Obama will be thinking about his legacy. If he listens to the Democratic austerity hawks, his legacy will be that of a two-term Democratic president who presided over eight years of an economic slump. He, and we, can do better than that.

Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect and a senior fellow at Demos. His latest book is A Presidency in Peril.

 
 
 
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Conservative commentators use the term "pander" to describe politicians, usually liberals, who are sensitive to women, blacks, Latinos, gays, and workers who lose their jobs to outsourcing. You might ...
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Stanley Bonk
"mad, bad, and dangerous to know"
06:49 AM on 10/23/2012
Only one class of the peopole benefit from a deflationary austerity budget: the owner class. They advocate for it because their wealth in ownership will never deflate, while everyone else's will. They, and only they benefit from austerity budgets. Everyone else suffer's. We should fear the example of Greece, not, as Mr. Romney claims, because it's our future if we overspend, but because Greece is an example of what happens when the owner class takes over an entire economy for their own enrichment.
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read matt taibbi
Neither left, nor right. Forward!
10:36 PM on 10/22/2012
Mr. Kuttner, austerity is not what causes problems in Europe.
Having lived beyond their means for several decades is the culprit.

Your repeated tirades against common-sense remind me of a guy
who gets smashed in the pub, wakes up the next morning with a terrible
headache and starts screaming:

"This hangover is a terrible problem! I should have NEVER stopped drinking."
07:36 AM on 10/23/2012
Banks hid the debt and hedged their bets expecting the money up front from the anticipated failure.
Same thing here on a different scale--the housing bubble was a deregulated scam--a gambling casino whose losses were covered at the expense of all else.
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read matt taibbi
Neither left, nor right. Forward!
11:19 PM on 10/23/2012
I mostly agree.

But then we need claw backs.
I know that is politically tough,
but if we keep printing new money
instead of demanding responsibility
(for instance Obama could have wiped out
shareholders and bondholders before recapitalizing the banks)
we will never fix things, we'll be just continuously
kicking the can down the road,
till gas is $10 - and maybe then people will wake up.
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Wayne Caswell
Consumer Advocate & Founder of Modern Health Talk
06:32 PM on 10/22/2012
If you worry about the deficit & fiscal cliff, look at "U.S. Federal Deficits, Presidents, and Congress" (http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloch/deficits.html/), and ask yourself how Romney could possibly cut taxes 20% below their record lows and add to military spending without adding to the deficit, unless he has a Wizard's hat and wand. After all, the last Republican president to cut the deficit was Eisenhower, when the top tax rate was 91%.
07:38 AM on 10/23/2012
They don't really care about deficits and debt--they state it outright when they are in control--they just don't want any money spent on anyone other than themselves.
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brainburst
05:21 PM on 10/22/2012
The thing that ultra fiscal conservatives don't get is that our national infrastructure IS crumbling. Money is going to have to be spent one way or another. Better to frontload and spend now when it will be cheaper because of the economy than later when it will be more expensive. No I don't want a bigger government, just restore replace repair that's it. It will provide stimulus AND save money over the long term.
07:41 AM on 10/23/2012
They want to privatize everything--not have any oversight or accountability and then, rob us blind.
04:32 PM on 10/22/2012
Yes all these commisions, economist, panels are wrong and you are right!!

I propose we get rid of Obama and Romey and declare you king so you can save us from our stupid selfs!!
07:00 PM on 10/22/2012
All What Commissions, Economists, Panals? I thought Kuttner spelled it out pretty well. Obama offered a Grand Bargain-It was refused-because it may have helped Obama.
07:56 AM on 10/23/2012
How could slashing the safety net during a Depression ultimately help Obama--other than the Wall St honchos he answers to?
04:28 PM on 10/22/2012
16 Trillion in a 300 Trillion economy is not bankrupt, with trillions held on the sidelines more tax incentives for corp and rich people will not move the economy toward growth and full employment. Jobs will increase when demand increases. You only hire a worker when demand increases for what your selling all the breaks in the world will accomplish nothing. Only more stimulus targeted to those that will spend and create demand which will increase job creation. Look at Europe they are taking the austerity path versus stimulus and they're goig down fast while we are growing slowly despite Europes drag on othe world economy. Pass the jobs bill and convince Europe to take the proven path and we'll be on our way. OBAMA 2012!
04:45 PM on 10/22/2012
What have you been drinking? The WORLD economy is only 65 trillion. You can't spend your way out of a financial hole. Just try it at home and see how far you get.
08:39 PM on 10/22/2012
you're way off brother recheck your #s
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pshakkottai
retired engineer
08:58 PM on 10/22/2012
Europe is not monetarily sovereign and has no choice but austerity like all states in USA. USA is monetarily sovereign like Japan and can deficit spend with abandon and fix all infrastructure, SS, Medicare, education etc with zero risk of inflation. Deficit reduction is a ploy by the 1% to reestablish feudalism.
04:21 PM on 10/22/2012
We will ALL be so very, very sorry if Romney gets in! He will take us back to the 1920's and then slamm our economy down!! If you think it's bad now. You have no idea!!! The rich will get richer, and the poor will get poorer, and the War mongers will be in charge!!
www.theledgeradioshow.com
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Wayne Caswell
Consumer Advocate & Founder of Modern Health Talk
06:36 PM on 10/22/2012
It's called a Plutocracy - rule by the wealthy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy
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07:20 PM on 10/22/2012
I agree that Romney will take us to the 1920s. But, where the original poster is wrong is that even 4 years of Obama have taken a huge toll. Both Romney and Obama are really bad candidates from the middle class' perspective as both of them are owned and sponsored by the Wall Street and Corporate fat cats. We middle class voters are caught between a rock and a hard place. As such, we are screwed no matter who wins. It is the banksters and corporate fat cats who will win.
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skylark
Tangled up in blue..
06:48 PM on 10/22/2012
F and F.
04:19 PM on 10/22/2012
We will see just how well the Romney plans works!! Once he gets in office and starts to put his policys in place, you know the 1920's policies.....we will all be so sorry we ever voted him in!!
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PopPopD
04:17 PM on 10/22/2012
I studied economics back in the late 60's at Rutgers. Not a power house of economic studies. While many ideas and thoughts have changed, one thing has not changed. The engine of the US economy is spending. Consumer spending produces the greatest
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PopPopD
05:01 PM on 10/22/2012
Sorry folks, it posted before I was done.

Consumer spending drives this economy, without it we have recession. Investment in a business that adds value to goods or services, will generate jobs. Consumer demand is what will causes a company to expand, not reduced tax rates. If I can't sell what I make, there is not tax incentive out there to get me to expand. Investment in a business that generates wealth, does not add jobs. Wall Street, except for IPOs, generates wealth and zero, none, nada, added value. We need to stop providing financial aid to Wall Street (capital gains and carried interest) and use that few extra billions toward our deficit and debt. A balanced approach of revenue and cuts will allow for consumer spending and as we grow, the added revenue must then go to lowering the deficit and debt.

There is no fast fix and 4 years is not very much time when it comes to the current situation. Some of the Clinton growth was actually the result of some of the Reagan policies. Things just don't happen that quickly.
05:55 PM on 10/22/2012
You're putting the cart before the horse. There was no demand for Ipads before apple made one, so how in your demand driven economy did they ever get made. Our problem is that we have been running a massive trade deficit for years and have only been consuming, and producing very little. That is why everyone took out a second mortgage and ran up credit card debt to fuel the last 20-30 years of consumption. We had no real wealth (which consists of savings and production).
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Wayne Caswell
Consumer Advocate & Founder of Modern Health Talk
06:44 PM on 10/22/2012
Right on, Pop. F&F ...
Trickle-down or Trickle-UP? The trickle-up math comes from corporate investments in technology to automate repetitive tasks and increase productivity without more people, and from outsourcing and converting full-time jobs to part-time, further cutting wages & benefits, and avoiding collective bargaining. The result is the widening income, wealth & opportunity gaps, as wealth is redistributed upwards.

Trickle-up is based on a known secret of business success – extending the value of your own efforts to more customers and markets, and paying employees less than the business value they individually contribute. If, for example, you have 10 employees and pay them half of what they each contribute, then you as a Manager get credit for 5 times more work done. If you employ 100, then you as a Director get 50 times more work done. And if 1,000, then you as a VP get 500 times more work done. Now if you can outsource or automate that work, you may get even more work done with less resource. That’s the ruling class.

But now a barber can only cut one head of hair at a time no matter how good he is, and a lawn boy can only cut one lawn at a time. A teacher can teach 10-20 students but lacks upward mobility to teach more. The working class adds considerably more value than they get credit for, and the credit (and profit income) flows upward.
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pshakkottai
retired engineer
09:03 PM on 10/22/2012
Govt deficit is new money necessary for people to spend and create jobs. Govt deficit becomes national wealth. See data in
http://pshakkottai.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/cumulative-deficit-vs-household-net-worth/
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PopPopD
08:43 AM on 10/23/2012
I agree that we need some deficit spending, just like people need some credit.  Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing! 
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SCOTUS13
speakingtruth2power
04:10 PM on 10/22/2012
Good luck on that. When you have a centrist competing with a severely conservative wanna-be.,

we certainly won't be getting any legislation written by Bernie Sanders. Obama, like Clinton, is

the good cop who will make a deal that the bad cop couldn't without screams from the victim (US).
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franchise2m
I'm platinum mad!
04:08 PM on 10/22/2012
Romney's 47% remarks show that he is the ultimate panderer. He expressed that his policies had nothing to offer them so he couldn't get their votes.

Now he promises Colorado voters defense jobs through increasing the military budget. Not only is this pandering and hypocritical, it isn't even accurate. Most of the money that goes to defense contracts goes to the high cost of the weapons produced and profit for the company, Labor costs are minimal compared to the other costs of defense production.

If he is going to promise jobs through government spending it would be more cost efficient to use it to help state and local governments hire more teachers, firefighters, and police. Dollars spent on public sector jobs create more jobs than than dollars spent on defense.

Of course the hypocrisy of this kind of pandering is that Romney's says that we shouldn't depend on the government to create jobs
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jstrate
03:53 PM on 10/22/2012
Y = C + I + G. With the fiscal cliff, C and G will go down. What's the problem with I? A guess is that most of it is uncertainty regarding health care costs. Perhaps there was no chance of moving to a single payer system like Canada's, given the seeming unbreakable habit of members of Congress shaking down the insurance and health care industries for campaign contributions, but that's where the country needed to go. Why should the CEOs of businesses be concerned about employee health care? Their time would be better spent on running their businesses. Get the health care monkey off their back and investment and hiring will soar.
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dmr569
Peace, Order, and Good Government
03:20 PM on 10/22/2012
In the American environment of fiscal fearmongering, you're never gonna convince a majority of Americans that the government is the spender of last choice. If you look at the figures for 2007, you can see that consumer spending made up 72 percent of American GDP (20 percent of global GDP). Over the previous 30 years, productivity went up by 30 percent while wages flatlined. (This is far from the first time I've quoted those figures.)

In other words, Americans were doing their patriotic duty by spending every meager penny they earned, by double-mortgaging their homes when those pennies ran out, and by maxing out their credit cards. Then. in ever greater numbers, they lost their jobs, lost their homes, declared bankruptcy. Those lucky enough to have escaped those horrors refocused on paying off debt.

Someone or something has to step in to partially fill the gap until consumers in sufficient numbers can get back on their feet, and that something is government. THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR -- to step in on your behalf when you can't hold up your end of the economy.

But try telling that to ordinary voter who's been brainwashed into believing that government -- by, of, and for the people -- is too big and should be shrunk and "drowned in a bathtub." Talk about masochism!

As for the "fiscal cliff," it's there for the lemmings, both Democrat and Republican.
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smarteeeee
Conservatism = Compassion
03:16 PM on 10/22/2012
I always find a discussion of this "fiscal cliff" as an odd discussion, because it always lays blame solely upon Repubs without any discussion. It ignores the lib control of the Congress for the last few years of Bush's second term. The Congress dictates the fiscal policy we have, by sending budgets and laws to the President for his signature. Therefore, the fiscal cliff was the creation, at least in part, of the libs in Congress - such as Biden and Obama.
03:11 PM on 10/22/2012
We definitely don't need new banking laws that are being conducted behind close doors.

What is Mitt's revised definition of a Qualified Loan?

Will he allow predatory lending for small business loans?