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Robert Kuttner

Robert Kuttner

Posted: November 29, 2009 06:23 PM

Recovery And Debt: Squaring The Circle

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President Obama seemingly has two entirely incompatible tasks. One is to move the economy on a path toward faster recovery with increased stimulus spending. The other is to address the problem of rising deficits and the escalating long term public debt.

He is holding a White House Jobs Summit next Thursday to signal concern for the high rate of unemployment while he is being lobbied by the deficit hawks. His economic team is parsing the tradeoff between these two goals. But a tradeoff is the wrong way to think about it. Recovery is a short term imperative, while the debt is a long term challenge. There are, however, important choices to be made.

Obama's team underestimated the degree of stimulus that the economy would need, and prolonged the period of payout. Council of Economic Advisers Chair Christina Romer estimated that the unemployment rate would peak at 8.9 percent. Today, unemployment is 10.2 percent and rising -- and over 17 percent if you include discouraged and involuntary part time workers.

On paper, the stimulus, at $787 billion, was about 2.7 percent of GDP over two years. But in fact, it is being paid out over three years, with about 30 percent of the money not being spent until 2011. Meanwhile, the loss of state and local revenues, now projected at more than $450 billion over three years, undermines about two-thirds of federal stimulus spending. So the real net stimulus is well under one percent of GDP per year.

We need about half a trillion dollars in new stimulus spending in 2010 alone, and more if that doesn't do the trick. There is no shortage of worthy things deserving of public funds.

I look around my home town of Boston. I see crumbling bridges and subways, social programs being shut down for lack of funds. Our progressive Democratic governor, Deval Patrick, just increased the regressive sales tax -- in a recession! Our pioneering near-universal health program is running in the red and cutting coverage. All of this is just nuts. Let's get some emergency fiscal relief to the states.

And let's also remember the WPA writers project and theatre project. Here in greater Boston, where Equity actors qualify for food stamps, two regional theatre companies have closed for lack of funds. How about one percent of the next stimulus program for the arts? And how about an emergency direct federal jobs program?

The usual suspects are making the usual noises about the long term debt. President Obama recently met with North Dakota Senator Kent Conrad, who is planning to hold the next routine vote to increase the debt hostage for a deficit commission. The idea is that a commission would create a budget balance plan that would be subject to little debate and an up-or-down vote. The supporters of this idea are also big promoters of the idea that Social Security and Medicare need to be cut back.

The fact is that Social Security will be in surplus for at least another generation. It is not contributing to the deficit. Medicare is heading for earlier deficits, but the cure for that is to shift to a more efficient health system across the board, otherwise known as national health insurance. Obama's health insurance plan, though far from ideal, actually reduces the net deficit.

It also misleading to blame the enlarged deficits mainly on the stimulus. The prime culprits are the recession itself (which reduces tax revenues), compounded by the legacy of Bush tax cuts and a war that was financed mostly off-budget. On the list of causes of the rising deficits, the spending of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (the stimulus) comes in fourth.

It's reasonable to worry that this recession will increase the long term public debt, and that this could be a problem down the road. But a deficit commission is anti-democratic. We elect Congress to make the laws. And the sponsors of the commission and their outside supporters, such as the Peter G. Peterson Foundation and the Concord Coalition, begin with an animus against social insurance and use the current crisis as a pretext to take whacks at our already threadbare welfare state. For an antidote to the hysteria and social insurance bashing of the Peterson Foundation, have a look at fiscalhighroad.org.

We do need to reduce the ratio of debt to GDP. But we need to do it after the economy is back in recovery. And we need to do it using the normal legislative process. And above all we need to use progressive taxation rather than program cuts.

Two good candidates as revenue raisers are a tax on all financial transactions, and a serious program of tax enforcement aimed at wealthy investors and corporations who use offshore tax havens. Supposedly, we are helpless in the face of the ability of capital to move offshore. And we dare not tax financial transactions for fear of driving the business to Caribbean tax havens. But this is just self-serving rationalization.

Congress could easily pass a law requiring any financial transaction where the investor does business, lives, or holds assets in the United States to be subject to U.S. tax law. We could harmonize our tax enforcement with nations that currently cooperate in the exchange of tax data. Right now, other so called advanced nations in the G-20 are more willing to tax financial transactions than we are.

Congress could also prohibit financial institutions that do business in the U.S. from doing business with ones based in tax havens. Does this sound draconian? After 9/11, we got very creative about cracking down on cross-border money laundering for purposes of terrorism. Now, we need to get equally smart about financial terrorism.

The national debt will be a challenge in the years after about 2013, but that is no reason to give up on the recovery. On the contrary, it should force us to get more serious about the recovery to get economic growth back on track so that the debt is less onerous.

Why is a debt approaching 100 percent of GDP a problem at all? It was larger after World War II, on the eve of a 25-year economic boom. When I was studying economics, we were taught that the national debt was no big deal because "we owe it to ourselves."

That was then, back when China was not a global financial power. Today, the debt is a lot more serious because we owe it to China and other nations that are not exactly democracies. You could feel the tectonic shift in President Obama's recent trip to China. Our creditors had the upper hand. As our friend Jeff Faux writes, a large foreign debt is a problem because our friendly creditors could loose confidence in the dollar.

But the answer is not to sentence ourselves to debtors' prison. We need, once again, to finance most of our own national debt. In the World War II years, my parents, who were barely middle class, put some of every paycheck into War Bonds. How about a surtax on windfall Wall Street profits, with the proceeds invested in U.S. Treasury Recovery Bonds? Normal people, who don't have access to insider trades, are earning about two or three percent on their savings. Turnabout is fair play. It would be salutary if the high rollers who caused the crash were made to put some of their wealth into Recovery Bonds, at two percent.

When John McCain rather pitifully proposed to suspend his campaign and duck a presidential debate so that he could help persuade Congress to enact Hank Paulson's Wall Street bailout legislation, candidate Barack Obama lethally quipped that a president needs to be able to do more than one thing at a time. Now, President Barack Obama needs to demonstrate that it's possible to do economic stimulus in the short run and the right kind of deficit reduction over the long term.


Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect and a senior fellow at Demos. He is author of Obama's Challenge: America's Economic Crisis and the Power of a Transformative Presidency.

 
 
 
 
 
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BetteB
05:29 PM on 12/02/2009
Honestly I haven't read this article, but I can say one thing with confidence. Until we become a society, perhaps again or for the first time, that is based on earning a living being useful to other (society) rather than earning a living using other we are ski rude, and will eventually destroy ourselves. That and stopping for-profit health care, this will take removing the one thing that costs so much without giving ANYTHING back (jobs in cubicles people hate is it), the for-profit health insurance industry. Using people for profit with evil Intent is killing us as a society.
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stevendedalus3
02:53 PM on 12/01/2009
For decades now I have been advocating the old, successful War Bond drives be employed for debt and infrastructure. In giving it the patriotic zing citizens would not mind the lower interest return, much unlike Wall Street and foreign investors.
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stevendedalus3
02:40 PM on 12/01/2009
"And let's also remember the WPA writers project and theatre project. Here in greater Boston, where Equity actors qualify for food stamps, two regional theatre companies have closed for lack of funds. How about one percent of the next stimulus program for the arts? And how about an emergency direct federal jobs program?"

Ridiculous. This is not the 1930s when morale boosting was needed. We have too much entertainment and writing as it is. We need blue collar heroes willing to rebuild a nation in disrepair of things that matter most.
11:19 PM on 12/02/2009
I agree with you; however, we must end the federal reserve first. The Federal Reserve is the source of our economic problems not the American people. Americans play a part only in their ignorance of the fraudulent federal reserve infationary machine and unlimited power to create money without congressional approval.
10:04 AM on 12/01/2009
"Our pioneering near-universal health program is running in the red and cutting coverage."--Kuttner

So it will obviously work when enacted nationwide...
10:01 AM on 12/01/2009
There are about 40 million people over 50 in the work force. Pay them $1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:

1) They MUST retire. Forty million job openings - Unemployment fixed.

2) They MUST buy a new American CAR. Forty million cars ordered – Auto Industry fixed.

3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage – Housing Crisis fixe d.

It can't get any easier than that!!
11:25 PM on 12/02/2009
this is a bandaid solution, at best, to a problem created by the very same people. The fraudulent Federal Reserve is responbsible for our most our economic problems. There power to increase the money supply ad infinitum and price fixing powers are sucking the wealth out of America. Obama is 100% committed to upholding the existing power structure and banking cartel -- everything else is an illusion of change. These regulations are only a distraction...
09:48 AM on 12/01/2009
The most probable result of trying to spend money to get out of debt is that in the
end you are still in debt. My generation (baby boomers) need to understand that all
the junk we bought in the pursuit of happiness must be paid for but we as a group
believe that we are entitled to it all and someone else should pay. The stimulus
is just a way of shifting the debt and the pain to the Feds so they can shift it to the future.
Shame on us for putting our Nation and our Children in this position. Obama has a problem
that there is no solution to as long as we are so greedy. Have fun in your Florida Room while
looking at your 60in Flat Screen screaming at it that this was everybody fault but your and those
of our generation.
11:33 PM on 12/02/2009
I agree with you - though surely some are more responsible than others. The existence of the Federal Reserve and its fraudulent ability to create money out of thin air and charge the american people interest -- and the media being owed and controlled by the very same private banking interest - have fooled the dumbed down american people - we must unite to end the Federal Reserve.
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05:38 AM on 12/01/2009
It seems that for the elites, this recession is time to party and settle old scores. Why don't we change our name to the United States of Ayn Rand and be done with it?
11:36 PM on 12/02/2009
She's wonderful but we have Ron Paul - lets support him!
02:55 AM on 12/01/2009
Wonderfully written article in both accuracy and in the suggested solutions. The Dubai situation and the fact that some United States banks are more in trouble because of their speculations in Dubai make the comments in the blog even more relevant. Shame on Congress and Secretary Geithner for using our tax dollars to INSURE the megabanks against their speculations and gambling investments.
Investment banking must be separated from normal banking functions (as after the great depression). The working people cannot get loans but of course the megabanks can make "gambling" investments which are insured!! Anybody ever get their gambling insured in Reno??? Please let me know how to get insurance if anybody knows how to achieve insurance??
12:35 AM on 12/01/2009
"recovery" is not whats needed../whats needed is radical change to a sustainable system that benefits 'we the people' .. firstly tax the megga rich ..secondly end corporate welfare and thirdly riegn in Military expenditure ... anything else is merely a patch on a rotted out old hull in very deep water ..
As a young man growing up in UK those earning over the equivalent of $1 millionper annum paid $95% in tax.. did this put and end to the megga wealthy?? ..absolutely NOT .. it did however even the playing field and with a good education available for all and with basic neccessities taken care of there were few desperado's and the streets were very safe and secure. Global Corprations in thier greed for ever greater returns have made the lives of ordinary working people insecure .. and they increase their bottom line by hiding income in all manner of sneaky ways .. end this faud NOW... We (5% of the world's population) spend more on what we are told is "defence" than the rest of the world combined... WHY ?? who benefits from this destructive insanity ? Charity begins at home..lets use our rescources to re-build whats broken AT HOME.. this nation is over 300yrs old and still behaves like a baby..it high time to learn some fast wisdom and grow up... people first ..profits last..
11:45 PM on 12/02/2009
these problems are sourced from the Federal Reserve. Regulations and the tax strategies are only a distraction if we don't end the fraudulent federal reserve that creates trillions of dollars and distributes the money to their cronies in secret and we are liable - funds enless wars and is a hidden tax (debasing our fiat currency) on the people greater than any that could be imposed by congress - the federal reserves continued opperations depend upon our ignorance of its existence...
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Trublulu
09:30 PM on 11/30/2009
I live in a Chicago suburb. Cook County has the highest sales tax rate in the nation. This is a terrible, terrible regressive tax. The politicians are scared to death of offending the wealthy corporations by increasing the income tax that would put more of the increase on the wealthy instead of the over burdened consumer. We keep hearing that the economy is sufferering because the consumers are not opening their pockets to buy the junk from China. How are we supposed to "consume" if we don't have money to pay our mortgages, health-care, college, etc. if we don't have jobs?
We don't dare tax the big corporations because they threaten to move even more jobs offshore. What jobs are left in the US? And, without the American consumer who is going to buy all of the stuff made overseas by semi-slave labor? The big corporations do need regulations, but they must be enforced, otherwise they are useless.
Capitalism and democracy are not the same thing. More and more capitalism seems to be just the big corporations getting bigger and bigger.
I feel like the whole economy discussion is some kind of Catch-22. All this nonsense about the budget deficit is just to distract people from the problems caused by the Republican/industrial complex that is destroying our nation in the name of obscene profits. They care nothing for this country or the people who built this country.
10:04 PM on 11/30/2009
I agree with everything you said except you left the democrats out too - they deserve their fair share of blame - Obama is merely a continuation of the bush administration - Large corporations have almost total control - any regulation should encourage the free market and competition - these large corporations along with the federal reserve have hijacked the whole government to pass laws and regulations that eliminate competition, ensure their profits, and socialize the losses - I think the first is to END THE FED!
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cyndeewi
Here to save the day
07:58 AM on 12/01/2009
Obama is not a continuation of the Bush administration. He does have his faults but please don't shame the man by saying that.
08:40 AM on 12/01/2009
The biggest bank deregulator was Bill Clinton...and the Dems. are doing nothing about the current situation...wheres the regulation???
11:55 PM on 12/02/2009
I agree - the fake left and the fake right paraigm allows for the continuity of corruption - we have to see through the false left/right paradigm - and end the Federal Reserve
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09:13 PM on 11/30/2009
Yea - not forgetting REGULATION. Or trying to dupe or intimidate people away from it. The banks fatted themselves back up - and left the rest to drown in whatever concerns their lobbyists can make sure are pushed away from them so more helpings are left for them again. Not to mention that this is contrary to the very understanding of the purpose of people's and company's participation in the stock market. How can their be faith in it when the flaws are explicitly but failingly coated over?

Espn can at least try to not devil advocate to show how void their standard disposition is... if you don't have an opinion until someone else does - YOU DON'T HAVE AN OPINION.

* Tim H - still not good. That doesn't change because his wife promotes torture interrogation tactics for politicians b/n a few giggles. Why can't people represent the conservative party without being bonkers and/or nonsensical, and/or trying to latch onto someone else? Because she clearly is and I doubt it's the gluten. I was sorry to hear they had to move. Heard about that from a friend of a friend that handles some real estate stuff for their old building.
12:09 AM on 12/03/2009
I absolutely agree... I'm just saying regulations without taking the power to create money out of thin air from the private banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve, will only be a distraction... that is a true conservative view point - mainstream republicans who call themselves conservatives count on a dumbed down public to believe them. The Federal Reserve allows for unlimited spending and our income tax goes to pay the interest when congress and the treasury have the constitutional power to issue currency interest free.
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Kye154
08:44 PM on 11/30/2009
National Recovery and managing the debt was pretty much lost when George Bush was elected to office and we went through a recession in 2001. We never really ever recovered from that recession, and Bush managed to add another $5.6 trillion to the national debt, which stood at $10.6 trillion in 2008 before the $787 billion bailouot was authorized by congress.. Like it or not, the only way to get this nation back on its feet is to start up public works programs, nationalize the banks, severely regulate Wall Street and seize all their assets if they fail to cooperate, revoke corporate tax loopholes, and put tariffs and taxes on the products of any company who decides to move offshore to get around paying taxes, or replace American workers with cheap labor. Corporates who are in this country have an obligation to be fair and support America if they want to stay in business. Otherwise, we really don't need them. If Obama does not do that soon, we will never recover, let alone get the debt under control, we will soon end up like Mexico, or Honduras, or some of the other destitute Latin American countries.
09:33 PM on 11/30/2009
none of that will work if the Federal Reserve continues to dominate monetary policy and maintain it's monopoly over issuing credit and currency without congressional approval or any sort of oversight by GAO. All the problems you mentioned would have been impossible if not for the existence of the federal reserve system. We have to get to the source of the problem rather than implement more regulations which are only a distraction and short term fix at best. We have to END THE FED!
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Kye154
10:11 PM on 11/30/2009
I understand what you are trying to say. However, the Federal Reserve is severely handicapped by the fact that the National debt is now beyond their control and they do not call the shots anymore. Lending countries, like China, do! Of course, the Federal Reserve can print more money, and drive down the value of the dollar. But then the Chinese who hold most of the treasury notes, would most likely retaliate and demand repayment, pull our credit, and certainly make any action by the Federal Reserve ineffective and irrelevant, not to mention, potentially leaving the US in a very severe economic depression. Also, the GAO only audits, evaluates, and investigates issues for congress, but the GAO has no regulatory supervision oversite function. That is the exclusive job of Congress! Last of all, ending the FED doesn't resolve the issues of predatory Captialism. Would you prefer to be at the mercy of an unbridaled corporates without strong government regulation? If so, then you will like Nigeria, Honduras, Nicaragua, Haiti, and some of the other 3rd world countries. Indentured servitude is the norm there.
07:58 PM on 11/30/2009
The American people need to do something also. Get out of Walmart. Buy things made in America.
I know there is not much but there is some. This should be a "buy made in America" holiday.
We need to speak up for things made here. How about appliances. I know people who would pay extra for things made here in the USA. People buy expensive gifts made in other countries.
How can we fix anything here if people don't have jobs. More and more jobs keep going to foreign countries. Corporations obviously don't care what happens to this country.
Obama can't say "Buy American" and upset the Chinese. But we can do it.
That's my goal this Christmas.
I have pyrex dishes, books, and heirloom seeds on my shopping list.
07:40 PM on 11/30/2009
Does anyone believe in the free market anymore? has everyone converted from an American to a statist? The free market and the u.s. constitution are responsible for created the largest middle class the world has ever seen - what has socialism created but poverty and an elite class? Our economic problems come from the federal reserve central banking system. You can't legitimately have a discussion about american economics without discussing the massive role of the federal reserve inflationary machine. Without mention of the Federal Reserve, any economic discussion is almost pointless. Democrats and Republicans are both responsible for the continuation of this criminal organization. Obama doesn't need a history lesson - he knows exactly what he is doing as did the bush administration. What am I missing here? Why isn't anyone talking about the Federal Reserve?
08:52 AM on 12/01/2009
You're asleep....Haven't you noticed that the quality of life in all of Europe has surpassed the US.??? We are going backwards because of our dependence on unregulated capitalism stealing from us at every turn. We are going backwards because our fear of a word (Socialism) keeps us from doing things that make sense. The free market is only for the poor...when the rich are going to lose money...suddenly the government gives them a bale out. The constitution did not create the middle class...a socialist group of unions fighting Pinckerton armies created the middle class...read some history and stop watching Fox news.
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Kye154
12:16 PM on 12/01/2009
Have to agree. I am sure people who have never traveled overseas much would know this, but I have certainly noticed in my travels many of the European countries, Canada, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Australia, have already exceeded our quality of life, and China is on the road to exceeding ours too. There is nothing wrong with well-managed socialistic systems, and many people in this country cannot tell you what is so wrong about "Socialism", even though the term has been ingrained into their heads to fear the term. The term "Socialism" has been around since the Red Scare days of the 1920's, an invention by Capitalists wanting to keep control on the public. But these same people, who fear Scoialism, are the same ones who do not want to give up their Medicare Medicaid, Social Security, or V.A benefits, nor their unemployment check., all from socialized programs! What a contradiction! But, while the US wallers in philosophical political battles and neglect the welfare of this country, all other countries are passing us by! We will soon be like Mexico, or some other third world country, made up of people fighting each other, in poverty, and indentured servitude.
12:58 AM on 12/03/2009
another person who obviously doesn't know how the Federal Reserve works. I don't watch any mainstream news/entertainment/propaganda especially FOX. First, Europe's current standard of living is only an illusion and temporary. It just recently adopted its version of our fiat currency a few years ago - their fate is the same as ours. A small group of unelected international bankers have been granted the awesome power of creating money out of thin air and loaned to the people at interest -- many of the same people behind the Federal Reserve system are behind the Fraudulent European Union. You are right we are going backwards -- down the road to serfdom... you've been conditioned to think the free market has caused our problems - research austrian economics like lugwig van mises or friedrich hayek - nothing in the past 100 years has been anything other than a corporate and banking take over of our country and that wasn't the free markets fault but politicians who have fooled a dumbed down american public. Second, the Constitution allowed for the greatest middle class the world has ever seen. The Pinckertons were completely unconstitutional and should be used as an agrument against the free market. Thrid, to say I need to read is comedic... lets have a discussion and exchange of ideas not make cheap attacks.
06:56 PM on 11/30/2009
C'mon people, let's get serious. Wall Street doesn't create wealth; it skims it. You and I work hard, and then 10% of our income gets put into various pension plans, where it is "managed" by financial professionals. What you and I don't see is that when the money passes through these doors of high finance, various buy, sell and exotic brokerage fees are deducted in every trade. Our money becomes - in the parlance of the Street (note the capital S, which can only mean Wall Street) - other peoples' money, or OPM for short. When a financial executive can grab hold of billions of dollars of OPM, he can wrest control of the board room of any midsize corporation, and direct its materials purchases towards companies that that very executive has a financial stake in. That executive can also put his personal money into an acquired corporation just before he raises profits by shifting its production line oversees. And if he screws up in his manipulation, he can always count on the government to socialize the loss, while he privatizes the gain. I could go on, but there's a word limit here.
Bladernr1001
Vote Libertarian
08:07 PM on 11/30/2009
The biggest user of OPM is the Governmnet.
10:10 PM on 11/30/2009
And the second biggest user of OPM are the states and various localities across the nation. Their tax revenues have been hit hard by the recession, and their various pension funds have plummeted in value. This now forces various financial gimmicks to both balance budgets and pay out principle instead of interest to the pensioners. Some states have washed their hands of the mess, and have instead mandated localities to raise their property taxes to cover the shortfall. In California, where Proposition 8 prevents this from happening, the state flirts with insolvency. Don't think that the financial markets aren't watching this oversized domino and betting on whether it will tip or not.
01:07 AM on 12/03/2009
At least someone on here gets it - Socialism has been used as a guise for corporate and banking take over...