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Robert L. Borosage

Robert L. Borosage

Posted: September 9, 2009 10:15 PM

The President's Speech


The President gives a great speech. He offers reason against hysteria. He summons us to our better angels. He challenges politicians and Americans to do "great things," because that is "who we are." He claims the center by defining himself against left and right, even as he acknowledges merit in both.

But he faces an embittered and disloyal Republican opposition. They scorn his speech as he gives it. They are intent on breaking the administration, not addressing a national crisis. The president offered preemptive concessions on tort reform, while inviting Republicans to join an adult conversation, putting aside the lies and calumnies that have so distorted the debate, like "death panels" and "government takeover of health care." He was answered immediately by anonymous Republican jeering from the floor, and formally by Rep. Charles Boustany, a medical doctor before coming to Congress, delivering the official Republican response by contrasting Republican "common sense" proposals with Obama's "government takeover of health care." Once more the president offers his hand; once more it is spit upon.

The president paid tribute to progressive pressure by sustaining his oft stated position on the public option -- that it offered Americans an important choice and held insurance companies accountable, and that he was open to other ways to achieve that end. But his concessions went to the conservatives in the Democratic Party. Senator Max Baucus, who has done more to weaken and impede reform than any other Democrat, was probably the big winner in the speech. Gone were the top end tax increases that House progressives would use to help pay for health care. Instead the President bowed towards the Baucus notion of taxing insurance companies for Cadillac health care plans -- which will raise questions among working and middle class people as to whether they will bear the burden. He embraced Bush's proposal to test out tort reform programs in different states, even though he knows that states like Texas that have imposed strict tort reforms show no evidence of cost savings. He stood for a very circumscribed public insurance choice, but said he was still open to ersatz ideas like the Baucus coop fantasy. He will hope that his speech has calmed fears of seniors and recaptured independents with health care who will benefit from insurance reform. No mention was made of empowering Medicare to negotiate lower drug prices.

What now? The president is right it is time for action. Any reform must overcome entrenched Republican opposition. The president must turn to the negotiations that matter -- those among the members of his own party, seeking to put together a plan that (1) works and that (2) can gain the votes necessary to pass. Democrats cannot afford to fail. But the plan, which will be done over entrenched Republican obstruction, must work. If there are mandates on individuals, there must be subsidies to make insurance affordable. With people mandated to get reform, there must be competition offered by a non-profit public insurance to help keep a lid on costs, and to keep insurance companies honest. The costs should be born by progressive taxes and elimination of expensive subsidies to insurance companies and drug companies. Republicans have shown again and again that they are willing to say anything, repeat any lie to make him fail. The only question is whether Democrats can unify in the hope of passing historic reform that works, and in the fear of failing to deliver once more.

This president deserves a better opposition both on the right -- one willing to enter an adult conversation about how to solve the staggering challenges this country faces -- and on the left, one willing to push him hard for fundamental reform, and pressure those in both parties standing in the way.

He is ill-served by the petty corruption and ideological venom of the right, and the docility of the left.

If we are going to be able to overcome the entrenched corporate interests and lobbies that dole out money to conservatives in both parties, we will need a much more independent and aggressive progressive mobilization.

The President gives a great speech. He offers reason against hysteria. He summons us to our better angels. He challenges politicians and Americans to do "great things," because that is "who we are." ...
The President gives a great speech. He offers reason against hysteria. He summons us to our better angels. He challenges politicians and Americans to do "great things," because that is "who we are." ...
 
 
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08:57 PM on 09/12/2009
We live in a time and in an enviornment where our country needs real change , not only change but someone with some vision and passion to motivate people to get things done. We need the change that Obama talked about in his campaign. The problem is Obama is working from the center, and change doesn't happen from the center. Obama has to be committed to change and the type of action that requires he is going to have to move from the center to the left. If he doesn't we will get very little if any change!
02:10 PM on 09/12/2009
I was very disappointed in the speech. Mandates, no real public option, protection, nay a gift for the insurance industry, continued attempts to court "bipartisan" agreement from the Just Say No Republicans is what I heard. Was I hearing wrong?
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01:05 PM on 09/12/2009
Wow! I'm a freedom loving Aussie and I find this paranoia over decent pubic health care amazing.

We've had Public Option for almost 30 years.

I've expounded on this in many of Huffo's threads but let me simply say... America you deserve better, do not believe the Conservative lies.

NB: It took two goes in my country to get universal Medicare established. The Conservatives got rid of it when they got voted back in. The Labor Party re-established it at the next election after that. And although they have undermined it every time they got back into power the Conservatives don't dare try to get rid of it again. What I am getting at here is you have to push HARD for it- it's NOT going to happen through bi-partisanship.

PS: I just found out my wife is pregnant over a fortnight ago :) , two days after we went and had the first ultrasound, yesterday we had the second, all at no cost. We have complete confidence in our system.
02:30 PM on 09/12/2009
Congratulations, mate!
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05:28 PM on 09/12/2009
Cheers M'lud.

:)
11:48 PM on 09/11/2009
"Any reform" is not what we want or need. The Republican heckling is irrelevant. They are the minority by far. The problem is the group of Democratic representatives which are Democratic in name only. What's more, many of them are American in name only. The Obama supported Baucus bill is the worst piece of legislation to come out of Senate ever. It imposes taxation without representation, unprecedented in American history. For the first time, the American government will be forcing the citizens to pay "insurance tax" to private corporations. Outrageous. The so called "public option" turned out to be the hook in this bait-and-switch travesty. It is not a real public option, it's bankrupt-on-arrival, unfunded pool of poor and sick people. The Democratic leadership should stop washing their hands with the Republicans. The Republicans have achieved a complete victory. They are now going after little spoils in the ensuing Democratic rout. Never before such betrayal of principles and base has taken place in the history of the world.
05:16 PM on 09/11/2009
Mr. Obama's hand is stretched out to those terrible Republicans who call a lie a lie - (just check the House bill for the actual illegal immigrant language - it is full of holes, particularly for families with both legal and illegals living together). Indeed, it was the President who called another politician a liar. So, he gets to call out others, but not be called to task himself.

As for content, name one thing new he proposed from a legislative perspective - zero. His medical malpractice ruse is what we call a "white lie" - an administrative act, not a legislative restriction.

Funding - no problem. All that waste, fraud and abuse that he can't stop today, will stop tomorrow (after he EXPANDS the program) because......well because he says so. Silly.
PWR
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midwesthousewife
11:15 PM on 09/11/2009
And your solution is...what, exactly?
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seachild
03:58 PM on 09/12/2009
(the sound of crickets)
11:34 PM on 09/10/2009
Actually - it is not the Democrats in Congress who are docile - well not most of them - it is Obama who is - if not docile, certainly without much backbone. He said that he will accept a reform bill that does not have a public option and that he does not wish to jeopardize insurance companies. Huh? Insurance companies exist to make money!! They must be jeopardized - at least in the form of lower insurance charges and thus, lower profits - and we simply must have a public option or there will be no incentive for insurance companies to lower their rates!
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10:10 PM on 09/10/2009
Is there a lot to work out, and will it have to be "fake it 'til you make it" sometimes? Of course! But this CAN be done or the rest of the industrialized nations wouldn't already have an advanced form of what were trying to get as an infant. Exploring new frontiers is always full of uncertainty, but that didn't stop us from going to outer space! The question is only... do all Americans deserve to be able to go to the doctor? Do all Americans deserve to have health care without it bankrupting them? All the negative BS is just that, BS! Anyone who says we have great health care, lives in a different dimension than I do! And, otherwise, we're saying America is inferior to every civilized country. We're saying that our Government is inferior to every other Government in the civilized world. We're saying that Americans do not have the where-with-all that most of the world has! The best health care I've ever experienced was at the VA... Government run health care! Think about that!!!
08:18 PM on 09/10/2009
What got my attention in the speech is Pres. Obama saying we could expect 5 percent of the population to sign up for the public option, Wouldn’t that be too small to ever be able to compete on prices? Bigger=more clout

.05 of 300,000,000 =1,500,000.00 I think. Divide that by 50 states and I come up with 300,000 per state. Somebody check my math.

http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/09/05/the-chicken-and-egg-problem-can-the-public-option-succeed-where-prudential-failed/

Medicare has never had to compete with the insurance industry for “customers.”
Medicare’s administrators had a good idea of how much leverage they had on day one over the nation’s providers. This allowed them (eventually) to make an offer to America’s providers that the providers could not refuse – accept Medicare’s below-average rates or lose a lot of money.

If the “option” isn’t going to have a ready-made supply of providers to work with, how will it be able to determine what premiums it will charge.

The problem is that the “option’s” managers won’t be able to negotiate advantageous rates with providers unless they can give providers some idea of how many patients they will deliver to them, but they can’t make that estimate until they have some idea of what premiums the “option” will charge, but they can’t do that till they know what they have to pay providers, etc.
by Kip Sullivan
01:03 AM on 09/11/2009
5% of 300million would be 15million people
or more then half the population of canada which does just fine on their single desk system

any single desk system that has the authority to negotiate costs is a win...
its long past time to take the profit out of health care!
02:56 PM on 09/11/2009
I don’t believe Canada is a good example. They have no competition to speak of.

I am going to use 4 percent instead of 5 percent because that is CBO’s projection. 12 million enrollees out of 300 million. (closer to 1/3 of Canada) 288 million not enrolled.

If you mix health care into a pie, lets say, made up of doctors, nurses , hospitals, drugs etc.

Slice it into 25 pieces. 1 piece is 4 percent of the pie. 1 pie is worth 1 dollar.
Each piece is worth 4 cents.
The public option piece says I am only going to pay 3 cents for my piece to the cook.
The cook knows if he lets the public option piece save a penny than the other 24 pieces will want to save a penny, Now says the cook my pie is only worth 75 cents. I’m not going to do that. Let that public option piece go whistle. I’m not going to lower my prices. It wouldn’t be good business.

Plus- Insurance companies have more costs, admin etc. but option people will mostly be poor which means subsidys to them. That will be added to the cost of the public option.
Would appreciate your thoughts
12:05 AM on 09/12/2009
His last figure is right - average 300 000 per state. Poor and sick only, the most expensive group to cover. The healthy and wealthy will fatten the belly of the insurance lobby. There is absolutely no risk spreading. As with Medicare, the government gets to cover the most expensive group so the insurance lobby can make more profits. Do you get the math now? This bill is ridiculous. It's outrageous.
07:25 PM on 09/10/2009
I couldn't agree more. Those of us who support Obama's health care reforms must do a lot more than sip lattes. I'd suggest contacting MoveON or Organizing for America. There are events all over the country, including marches this Sunday. (At least there's a rally in Los Angeles.)
Get involved!
05:56 PM on 09/10/2009
As usual, the President gave a stirring speech----until you stop and think about what he really said. What the Democrats heard? Time to cave, Dems! What the Republicans heard? Time to cave, Dems! I can already hear the crumbling, and I suspect what we will end up with is a bill written by the industry lobby, while the Dems. pat themselves on the back for passing a reform bill. What the heck, a bad bill is better than no bill. I'm personally not so sure of that.
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04:44 PM on 09/10/2009
We must not congratulate Obama too much. He has abandoned the undocumented worker for political gain. All people are people.
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04:42 PM on 09/10/2009
The Repubs are dug into their hole of opposing Obama at all costs. But what they fail to realize is that in doing so, they are also opposing decency at all costs. Anyway, my own health care concerns trump over any noise and ruckus they may make. So I don't see the Repubs getting anywhere any time soon unless they can find a Barack Obama in their ranks to lead them.
03:52 PM on 09/10/2009
Hurrah For Obama! But...

As he usually does, Pres. Obama made a fine speech. He is an intelligent, articulate man and a skilled orator. It is a positive pleasure to have a decent, reasonable man in the Oval Office instead of a malignant thug.

I am fond of reason Used to be a chemist; we like logic. But we must face the fact that today's Republicans are a gang of stormtroopers.. Even Barry Goldwater said of Nixon's men "They don't think like conservatives.They think like thugs" In other words, they had no respect for the law, for justice, or for the truth. All they cared about was power. And today's Republicans are worse by far than Nixon's mob. They think that they are on God's side, and any atrocity they commit is a righteous act. THis kind of thinking led to the Crusades, the Inquisition , the centuries of Catholic-Protestant religious wars, and "Islamic" terrorism.

Al Gore and John Kerry tried sweet reason against the stormtroopers. They lost. If Democrats want to win, we have to fight fire with fire. Call them on their lies, and even more so on their record!t When Reagan took office the Federal debt was one trillion. When Bush left it was 10.2 trillion dollars! The only time in the last 29 years the books balanced was the last two Clintoon years. And of course the missing 9,000,000,000,000 went into republican bank accounts! If we get the FACTS out we will win!
03:13 PM on 09/10/2009
"by the petty corruption and ideological venom of the right," - I really feel the warmth of bipartisanship.
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06:57 PM on 09/10/2009
The current rethuglican party, disturbingly, can't be bargained with.
Their marching orders are clear: see that this administration fails, even at the expense of our country.
Though Obama has repeatedly tried, they remain unresponsive to ANYTHING. These are the facts. What part of that don't you understand?
11:24 PM on 09/10/2009
In the spirit of bipartinsanship... I think we should get up a charitable drive to get some new neckties so John Boehner can retire that mint green one !
03:02 PM on 09/10/2009
Socialism in contrast to Capitalism is defined as government intervention or partial or full ownership of the free market. What the Bush administration did to avert the credit market collapse is one good example of "govt. intervention". Like it or not we are slowly and steadily being dragged in to a socialistic society. Many in our society, for various reasons cannot take care of ourselves or protect ourselves from predators in the free market. We need the Govt. to protect us and spread a socialistic net when we fall through the cracks. The degree to which we want the Govt. to stick its nose in our affairs may vary. But nevertheless we cannot survive as a society if every body was out for him/her self. This is what Barak Obama was talking about and GOP has been criticizing as though it is a disastrous and catastrophic word. Don’t you want your aging grandparents or a disabled child or sibling given special concessions in our society? Healthcare has today evolved in to a huge industry with a lot of profit potential. Many in our society can no longer go it alone. The result is that we have to protect the weak and sick. Call it socializing healthcare if you want. But that is what we need.
05:30 PM on 09/10/2009
Raman, you know not what you speak!! You try to sound as if you know what you are talking about, but you are just repeating the same misinformation fed to the public by the gop and industry barons. Socialism is a very fluid concept, and it refers to various theoris of economic organization advocating worker or public ownership and administration of the mans of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resrouces for all individuals. Socialisn IS NOT a political system, it is an economic system distinct from capitalism. There are tons of socialist models out there. Count Henri de Saint- Simon, who first coined the term socialism, advocated the creation of a society which would be based on equal opportunities. He advocated the creation of a society in which each person was ranked according to his/her capacities and rewarded according to his/her work. Sounds real bad ass huh? As opposed to Capitalism, where equality is is frouned upon, and embraces monopoly, business cycles, unemployment, unequal wealth distribution, and economic exploitation of workers. Our society is a social democracy.
08:26 PM on 09/10/2009
Socialism is required for things that we absolutely must have, like health care, the common defense, police and firefighters, clean air and water, and so forth. Free markets are wonderful for all the crap we can live without.