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What Is It Like After You Die?

Posted: 07/27/11 09:36 AM ET

The question, "What is it like after you die?" can make you wonder about taking the time to ponder such philosophical babble. You might reply, "The only way to know is when you die." Not so. You won't know any more than you do now. Increasingly, scientists are beginning to realize that an infinite number of realities may exist outside our old classical way of thinking.

Our instinctual understanding of reality is the same as most other animals. This came into focus the other day as I strolled though a nearby field, stirring up butterflies and creatures of all shapes and colors. There were wildflowers that were brilliant yellow, some that were red and others that were iridescent purple. This colorful world of up-and-down was the extent of my reality. Of course, to a mouse or a dog, that world of reds, greens and blues didn't exist anymore than the ultraviolet and infrared world (experienced by bees and snakes) did for me. In fact, some animals, including birds, possess magnetoreceptors that allow them to perceive information on the quantum level (indeed, some have even speculated that bees perceive a 6-dimensional reality to encode location information).

But regardless of these differences, we genome-based creatures all share a common biological (spatio-temporal) information-processing ability. I've previously written how reality isn't a hard, cold thing, but rather an active process that involves our consciousness. According to biocentrism, space and time are simply the tools our mind uses to weave information together into a coherent experience -- they are the language of consciousness (in fact, in dreams your mind uses the same algorithms to create a spatio-temporal reality that is as real, 3-D and flesh-and-blood as the one you're experiencing now). "It will remain remarkable," said Nobel physicist Eugene Wigner, referring to a long list of scientific experiments, "that the very study of the external world led to the conclusion that the content of the consciousness is an ultimate reality."

At death there's a break in our linear stream of consciousness, and thus a break in the linear connection of times and places. Indeed, biocentrism suggests it's a manifold that leads to all physical possibilities. More and more physicists are beginning to accept the "many-worlds" interpretation of quantum physics, which states that there are an infinite number of universes. Everything that can possibly happen occurs in some universe. Death doesn't exist in these scenarios, since all of them exist simultaneously regardless of what happens in any of them. The "me" feeling is just energy operating in the brain. But energy never dies; it cannot be destroyed.

So what's it like when you die? Of course, during our lives we all grow attached to the people we know and love and can never image a time without them. I subscribe to Netflix and recently went through all nine seasons of the TV series "Smallville." I watched two or three episodes every night, day after day, for months. I watched Clark Kent (Tom Welling) grow up and go through all the normal growing pains of adolescence, young love and family dramas. He, Martha Kent (his adoptive mother) and all the other characters became part of my life. Night after night I watched him use his emerging superpowers to fight crime as he matured, first attending high school and then college. I watched him fall in love with Lana Lang (Kristin Kreuk), and then become enemies with his former friend Lex Luthor (Michael Rosenbaum). When I finished the last disk, it was like they had all died -- it was all over.

Despite my sense of loss, I reluctantly tried a few other TV series, eventually stumbling upon "Grey's Anatomy." The cycle started over again with completely different people. By the time I had finished all seven seasons, Meredith Grey (Ellen Pompeo) and her fellow doctors at Seattle Grace Hospital had replaced Clark Kent, et. al as the center of my world. I became completely caught up in the swirl of their personal and professional passions. In a very real sense, death is much like finishing a good TV series, whether "Grey's Anatomy," "Smallville" or "Dallas," except the multiverse has a much bigger collection of DVDs than Netflix. Just like at death, you change reference points. It's still you, but you experience different lives, different friends and even different worlds.

Think of a football field full of stacks of DVDs piled up to the sky. At death, you'll even get to watch some re-makes -- perhaps in one, you'll get that dream wedding dress you always wanted, or a doctor cures the disease that caused your loved one to die. The story goes on even after J.R. gets shot. Our linear concept of time means nothing to nature.

As for me, I still have Season Eight of "Grey's Anatomy" to look forward to.

Robert Lanza has over two dozen scientific books, including ""Biocentrism" which lays out his theory of everything. You can learn more about his work at www.robertlanza.com.

 
 
 
The question, "What is it like after you die?" can make you wonder about taking the time to ponder such philosophical babble. You might reply, "The only way to know is when you die." Not so. You won'...
The question, "What is it like after you die?" can make you wonder about taking the time to ponder such philosophical babble. You might reply, "The only way to know is when you die." Not so. You won'...
 
 
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boomer7391
Beliefs are the seeds of evil.
06:44 PM on 09/22/2011
the fallacy is in the assumption that reality requires consciousness and not vice versa

i can most certainly assure you that if i'm not conscious of the himalayas they most certainly do still exist

in fact if you do take the view that reality requires consciousness than when you cease living than reality no longer exists...for you.
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02:01 PM on 09/01/2011
For me, I imagine that after I die, it will be just like it was before I was born.
Unless my memories of that time deceive me, Nothing.
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02:06 AM on 09/02/2011
I came to the same conclusion long ago. The so-called "after-life" is probably identical to what we might call the "before-life," i.e., it consists of nothing at all.

How does biocentrism reconcile that, Dr. Lanza?
11:36 AM on 09/15/2011
NER2, I say this in all due respect. I would consider what you have stated, "limited thinking?" One of the first things one must due to study or get information that just might make sense to our physical/human ways of thinking is, OPEN OUR MINDS, OUR THOUGHTS......................WIDE!:)
08:45 AM on 09/15/2011
The absence of memories prior to this lifetime always seems to me a weak reason to conclude that we didn't exist at that point. After all, the vast majority of experiences in this lifetime are completely forgotten. How many of your dreams do you recall? How about your waking life before age 3? For that matter, how much of what happened last year or even last month do you really remember? Should we therefore conclude that none of these experiences occurred?

The flip side of this argument is that there are many instances where people DO recall events from a prior life, memories which have been validated in a number of cases. I am not just talking about anecdotal evidence. In fact, Dr. Ian Stevenson at University of Virginia investigated over 3000 cases of purported reincarnation over 40 years and amassed a quite impressive set of data. Some of his colleagues have carried on his work. If you are interested, you should check out Jim Tucker's book, Life Before Life, which documents some of these cases. You may not be convinced, but the evidence he presents is, at the very least, very perplexing.
11:25 AM on 09/15/2011
I like your thoughts! I am very familiar with the thoughts of Ian Stevenson also. I would like to mention something in referrence to what you commented. Remembering one's dreams, not the next day, but in the future years to come in my opinion from what I know of myself and others is always impossible? BUT, remembering my Out of Body Experiences have been easy! (Even the one's I had many, many years ago). Also, what you said about remembering when we were 3. At one time I had no recollections of that age or even 7 and 8? But, during one of my Out of Body Experiences, I was shown that information. It became clear to me that most times forgotten are based on traumatic experiences blocked by ourselves from that time.
04:06 PM on 08/27/2011
Strange parellel you draw. Death and television. Enjoy your "Grey's Anatomy".... I have never watched an episode, perhaps I can get caught up ..... later.
*smile*
Just a sideline note: I have had NDE. Doubt very seriously if I will ever get caught up on your favorite television show. You can catch me up on it *later*.
11:28 AM on 09/15/2011
LOL:) You had a Nead Death Experience! These shows would probably be totally REDICULOUS to you? (Unless, I suspose any were scripted by someone such as yourself who had an NDE?)
10:18 PM on 09/21/2011
That is WHY I do NOT watch any television shows such as that. As a matter of fact, I watch little television at all. NO.... My NDE was absolutley NOT "scripted". *grin* I can not understand the concept of a "scripted NDE". It was was Hyper~Real. Much more than a dream or hullicination. My NDE was ten years ago, but can recall it as vividly as it occured yesterday! *smile*

(Yup, you are correct~~ those shows are totally ridiculous to me~~~ That is also why I thought It a strange parallel... Using a television show in relation to NDE...... Ohhhh MMyyyy!!! ***smile***)

Much Peace, Love, and Light ~~ Always to you friend.
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10:56 AM on 08/06/2011
No one can honestly answer the questions concerning the end of life and/or if something else follows this life. No one has come back to verify anyone's hypothesis.
But whether one has a belief, a feeling, or a hunch there's more to this life or one feels this is it, we should all appreciate the life they are in now, don't take it for granted nor the people in our lives.
Make the most of what you have today...the end of this life will arrive in its own good time.
03:12 PM on 08/03/2011
Actually, what happens when you die is already known, the information is just obscure. While an average American in every other sense of the word, I was raised on a scientific version of surat shabd yoga (no beliefs, no dogma, pure technique) which teaches how to travel in the "spirit" worlds - or higher dimensions, or whatever you want to call them. My spiritual teacher considers himself a spiritual mechanic. Just as the physical body is mechanical in nature, so are the "spiritual" aspects of one's being. Learning how to travel in the higher realms is simply a matter of energy management - just as driving a car is a matter of having gas in the tank.
What happens when the physical body dies? One's consciousness wakes up elsewhere. The temporal mind is dependent upon the physical brain; but consciousness is not. The only reason we are not conscious of the higher levels while alive is because all of our energy is spent running the five senses. Learn to tap into the energy supply and whole new vistas open up.
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Francois Bergeron
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10:43 AM on 08/04/2011
That implies that your consciousness can operate on its own, powered by...nothing.
But I hope you're right.
04:07 PM on 08/04/2011
Consciousness is powered by something, something you might have heard of. It is known by many different names, Om being the most well known. It is also called the sound current. Quantum physics proves that the world is sound . The sound current is the audible lifestream which powers Creation. Here's a link to a book on the subject. http://www.amazon.com/World-Sound-Brahma-Landscape-Consciousness/dp/0892813180
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Francois Bergeron
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05:43 PM on 08/04/2011
Strange that your reply to me didnt show... Once again, I hope you are right, and your beliefs make more sense to me than most religions out there. But what puzzles me is the human need to come up with all kinds of theories that preclude death.
There is actually no need for us to survive death in any way. But we certainly can come up with lots of fancy ways to do it. Doesn't that seem a little desperate to you?
09:04 PM on 08/04/2011
I find it strange that my reply did not show as well. I replied that consciousness is powered by something. Since my reply didn't show I won't go into more detail this time, let's just say that "it is closer than hands or feet."
It is not a matter of belief. It is a matter of technique, just as physical medicine or car mechanics are technique. Reality is what is true whether it is believed in or not.
How can you be so sure there is no need for us to survive death when you have no idea what death is? Or what we are, for that matter. What makes no sense to me is how conventional Western thinking seems to demand a belief to attach itself to. Why not just admit a lack of knowledge instead?
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12:37 AM on 08/03/2011
I watched a STENT being placed today. Aside from the fascinating procedure it caused me to think about the patients risk of mortality. Then I thought "risk"? I wonder why we try to hang on so hard? It caused me to start thinking of my "risky" life-style that could put me in his position. No more fast food. No more ice cream. No more root beer. No more eggs and bacon. No more chili. What? Risky behavior? I love ice cream! I'm going to enjoy life. When I die ...I die. I fear not death. As a matter of fact, life is becoming redundant. I would invite a change. Now that is freedom.
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Dennis Merritt Jones
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07:17 PM on 08/01/2011
Hi Robert,

Thanks for a provocative post...

Who can really say what it's like when you die? It has been my experience that it is primarily those who fear whatever their version of "hell" is are obsessed with the question. Of course heaven and hell are only one thought away--it's a current state of mind, not a location.

Just as the Universe "is" what it is, so too is Life. Life cannot be destroyed. Life simply "is." You can certainly destroy a body, but that which animates it is simply indestructible and eternal. Does that mean we retain memory and individuated expression? Who cares? What it looks like when I lay aside this garment of flesh and bone I wear on spaceship Earth doesn't much matter.

If there is individualized expression beyond this lifetime and we do take some form of karmic impression with us, doing the best we can do here and now is wise call. If, on the other hand, this is it, and when the lights go out they are out forever, having done the best we could, we can leave here knowing the planet is a better place that it was when we got here. Perhaps that is all we really need to know.

Great conversation!
01:55 PM on 08/01/2011
HOW FASCINATING:

How
Fascinating the idea of death
Can be.
Too bad, though,
Because
It just isn't
True.

Hafiz

Blessings, Thomas
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Kelley Harrell
Neoshaman; author of 'Gift of the Dreamtime'
12:56 PM on 08/01/2011
What we dream is what carries on. I'm still doing the home improvement version of that.
Thanks for this post.
11:17 AM on 08/01/2011
The fact that this reality is in existence means that anything is possible, as the whole thing is entirely mysterious. However, the idea that we can "know" anything either side of birth and death is ridiculous. The part of us that "knows" stuff doesn't survive the transition.
11:06 AM on 08/01/2011
Pure speculation.
01:33 PM on 07/31/2011
Hi Dr. Lanza! It appears that we may be closer to finding the truth then you know! There is actually 200 years of consistent, scientific afterlife evidence that has now been made easily accessible to the average person. Indeed there is no much pure evidence that it will soon be too overwhelming for mainstream scientists to ignore! A truly wonderful book for an introduction to this evidence is "The Fun of Dying" by Roberta Grimes. It compiles a good deal of the evidence that has been uncovered in the past two centuries and it really provides a factual view of the afterlife. Another great book would be "Your Eternal Self" by R. Craig Hogan. This book is focuses more on pure scientific evidence which tells us that we easily survive death and that the universe is the product of intelligent design. Both Roberta Grimes and R. Craig Hogan contribute to the AfterlifeForums.com, which is a website where people are encouraged to ask questions about the afterlife and get answers based on the factual evidence we've uncovered! None of these sources has anything to do with religion or philosophy, they all teach only what evidence has made clear to us. Perhaps you could check them out?
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05:00 PM on 07/31/2011
very nice of you to recommend these books. thank you for that. a recent book that just came out is entitled the afterlife revealed. may want to check it out. ie forgot the author's name. sorry. saw it on amazon.

if you are a materialist or religious, dont waste your money; you already have made up your minds so it would be money wasted. sorry to be so harsh but a lifetime of experience and observations has taught me that once we have become a true believer; we see little need to read anything outside our comfort zone of beliefs. ie like attracts like.

there is an exception to this axiom of course; sometimes when a significant emotional event enters our life; we often are willing to take a new look at our beliefs. seldom happens but does occur.

there is actually qualitative evidence for an afterlife but interesting neither the religious nor the materialists will even investigate this evidence. perfect examples of paradigm paralsysis.
12:14 PM on 08/26/2011
I really like this post. My experience on forums trying to support this type of thing has brought me a similar experience. People of a similar mind / belief support my comments, thank me for things I share, etc. Those who are unable to believe at times get angry and sometimes are even hurtful in their comments. A really good argument pointing at research is especially likely to provoke this kind of response. It seems that many people have simply decided that near death studies and science cannot possibly coexist. Their view is fixed and attempts to change it are not welcome.

Well as for me...I know what I know and I don't have to convince everybody. It seems like the more I learn, the more I just try to make sure my consciousness is developing...the rest takes care of itself perfectly.
05:11 PM on 07/29/2011
All we have is this world and each other, and the sooner that we stop trying to make-up ways that we get out alive, the better off we'll be.
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11:32 AM on 07/29/2011
My philosophy now explained....
11:29 PM on 07/28/2011
Parallel universes or not, when we die, we die. Our atoms and sub-atomic particles continue in this universe without their holistic minds. So, too, die the reds, yellows and purples, because there is no color in this world; only in our minds.

As a poster said below, it is the same as before we were born; however, Robert, if it makes you feel more comfortable dreaming about continuing in your other universes, no harm done. One reason no one knows for sure whether there are other universes is because they are closed to us and all the atoms and quantum activity that are us.

No harm done, but all that TV? Sounds as if you are watching far too much TV? When do you make time for keeping up with medical science?
11:18 PM on 08/05/2011
How do you know "no one knows"? Have you asked everyone? It is a commonly held misconception that no one knows what happens after we die. The truth is out there...if you seriously search for it - and I am not talking about just another religion.