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Does Death Exist?: Life Is Forever, Says Theory

Posted: 01/04/10 12:48 PM ET

In the cartoon, Bugs Bunny swallows nitroglycerine and gunpowder, and springs back to life even when he gets flattened by a boulder. But it's not just Bugs. Experiments suggest that life can't be destroyed either.

As discussed in Part I, the 'many-worlds' interpretation of quantum physics states that there are an infinite number of universes (the 'multiverse'). Everything that can possibly happen occurs in some universe. Death doesn't exist in any real sense in these scenarios since all of them exist simultaneously regardless of what happens in any of them. The 'Who am I?' feeling is just a 20-watt fountain of energy operating in the brain. But this energy doesn't go away at death. One of the surest axioms of science is that energy never dies; it can't be created or destroyed.

Scientists think they can say where life begins and ends. We generally reject the multiple universes of Star Trek as fiction, but it turns out there is more than a morsel of scientific truth in this popular genre. According to Biocentrism, space and time aren't the hard objects we think, but rather tools our mind uses to put everything together. When bodies die, they do so not in the random billiard-ball matrix but in the inescapable-life matrix.

Consider all the days that have passed since the beginning of time. Now stack them like chairs, and seat yourself on the very top. Isn't it amazing that you just happen to be here now, perched seemingly by chance on the cutting edge of infinity? Science claims it's a big accident, a one-in-a-gazillion chance. But the mathematical possibility of being on top of infinity -- of your consciousness ending -- is zero.

Imagine existence like a recording. Depending on where the needle is placed you hear a certain song. This is the present; the music, before and after is the past and future. Likewise, every moment endures always. All songs exist simultaneously, although we only experience them piece by piece.

Why are the laws of nature exactly balanced for life to exist? There are over 200 parameters in the universe so exact that it strains credulity to propose they are random. These fundamental constants (like gravity) all seem to be carefully chosen, often with great precision, to allow for existence of life. Tweak any of them and you never existed. Nobel physicist Steven Weinberg agrees this fine-tuning is "far beyond what you could imagine just having to accept as a mere accident."

Consider, too, everything else that had to happen for us to be here. There are trillions of events, such as the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs -- what if its trajectory had been slightly different? The odds are astronomically against everything happening exactly right. Is it just dumb luck?

Being here is no accident. Perhaps Biocentrism is right -- the past is simply the spatio-temporal logic of the observer. If the present determines the past as Stephen Hawking and others suggest, then it couldn't be any other way. In fact, scientists recently published a landmark experiment in Science showing that flipping a switch could retroactively change an event that had already happened in the past.

When I bought my house it was run down. My friend Dennis helped me fix it. He's one of nine children who grew up in a housing project and became a firefighter. When a car went through the ice on the pond, he dove in and pulled a man out of the submerged car. A few years ago he cut a limb off a tall tree. "We're supposed to be having fun," I said. "I don't want to spend the night in the emergency room." We laughed. A few seconds later the massive branch started to swing and bashed into his head like a ramming-rod. "Dennis!" I yelled as he tumbled through the air. But the only response was a terrifying thump when his body hit the ground.

There my best friend was draped over the branch like a rag doll. He had no pulse and wasn't breathing. He was air-lifted to the hospital. While the alarms were going off on Dennis' monitors, a nurse called the ICU and pleaded, "We have more LifeFlights on the way and can't handle him here." The problem was they couldn't get housekeeping to change the sheets on the empty ICU bed.

Dennis laid in the corner teetering on the edge of life and death. When I told his family the doctors didn't know if he was going to make it, his 13-year-old son started to sob. It all seemed surreal. As when my sister died, I thought about the 20-watts of energy, and about experiments showing a single particle can pass through two holes at the same time. I knew Dennis was both alive and dead, outside of time.

When you lose a loved one, you can't imagine a happy ending. But consider: you and I, indeed the entire human species could have been wiped out like the Neanderthals a hundred times over. Whether it's flipping the switch in the Science experiment or falling out a tree, it's the 20-watts of energy that will experience the result in the multiverse. But by definition, you can't experience nonexistence (you'll always seem to be alive, now, on top of time).

After Bugs gets blown up, there's a moment when you think he's dead. But the show always continues. Likewise, according to Biocentrism, consciousness can't be extinguished in a timeless, spaceless world. That's why you're here despite the preposterous odds against it. Bottom line: you may get flattened now and then, but life can't be stamped out.

Last year, Dennis' son scored a touchdown at the football game. Dennis and the other parents went wild.

Remember, the silly rabbit never dies.

Robert Lanza, MD is author of over two dozen scientific books, including "Biocentrism," a new book that lays out his theory of everything.

 
 
 

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In the cartoon, Bugs Bunny swallows nitroglycerine and gunpowder, and springs back to life even when he gets flattened by a boulder. But it's not just Bugs. Experiments suggest that life can't be des...
In the cartoon, Bugs Bunny swallows nitroglycerine and gunpowder, and springs back to life even when he gets flattened by a boulder. But it's not just Bugs. Experiments suggest that life can't be des...
 
 
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12:48 PM on 02/11/2010
We are not physical beings who, every once in a while, have a spiritual experience. We don’t have to kill our egos in order to do achieve immortality, but we damn-sure have to render it subordinate to the Eternal State of Being. Knowing about life, and living it are two different things. This life is not supposed to be about “(s)he who dies with the most toys wins.” Ego was never meant to rule, as it does with Satan. And if everywhere you read “Satan” in the Bible, you replace it with the word “Self,” you’ll quickly see what I mean.
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03:45 PM on 01/09/2010
Consciousness is based on the complexity of the pattern of interaction and NOT the hardware that supports it. This fact is well known in neuro-biology and computer science, hence the possible tech of uploading consciousness to a computer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_uploading

I love the supposedly scientific minded 'sheeple' here that are repeating a reductionist argument they do not even understand.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527427.100-you-wont-find-consciousness-in-the-brain.html

Consciousness is a very hard problem in science. There is inconclusive evidence that suggest it is 'birthed' in the human brain.

That the universe can create a 'dimension' that can reflect on itself is very profound, and it is rational to suggest that the universe may wish to conserve consciousness for the sake of it's own existence.

Sorry reductionist sheeple, this philosophy belongs to the futurists, not the creationists or fundamentalists you are only capable of surmounting in a philosophical debate!
10:17 AM on 01/10/2010
So those of us who actually want to understand things are "reductionist sheeple" where as people who just throw up their hands and say "we'll only know in the future" are the visionary futurists?

As for the statement "Consciousness is based on the complexity of the pattern of interaction and NOT the hardware that supports it."

I would pretty much agree but I think you are misunderstanding attempts by psychologists and philosophers to understand consciousness. Saying that consciousness requires SOME hardware (brain or computer) is not reductionist in the narrow sense that you imply. In fact there are whole areas of philosophy and computer science that study cognition and language in the abstract, without caring whether the machine that processes the language is a brain or sillicon chip. One of Chomsky's major accomplishments that made him famous in lingistics was to provide a mathematical model to analyze languages that works for computer languages such as Java and C or natural languages such as English.
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10:56 AM on 01/09/2010
Use a straw to suspend ang one of those ice cubes with the hole in it over the center of your water glass and wait for it to fall. As the individual molecules change state from solid to liquid, drip, drip, drip, think about time and simultaneity...if you can slice time into an infinite number of units, then no two molecules are changing state at the same time. Thus, when the little ice donut turns into a C and drops into the glass, it is because a single molecule changed state.
01:44 AM on 01/09/2010
It said in Veda 5000 years ago that energy always trascends where organic or inorganic so related to Spirit which is cosmic where as body is finite in living sense. These are the verses and traslation for common benefits
Om Purusha Ye Vedam Sarvam Yad Bhutam Yaccha Vavyam,
Uta Mritatwa Sesyano Yad Annena Tirohati.
[ Purusha (Energy) is all that has been and that will be; And he is the Lord of immortality which transcends through matter ]. (R. 10. 90.2; Y. S. A.)
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01:04 PM on 01/08/2010
Regarding the use of science to explain such issues as life after death...science is not up to the task other than as metaphor. Science, by design, is a limited way of knowing . But there are other ways of knowing than through the scientific method and they are just as legitimate. However, science has taught me that there are things going on that I couldn't even have imagined, which leads me to wonder if anything we can imagine can be possible. And that includes life after death.

All life is programed to stay alive. Why this compulsion? If there is no life after death, then it doesn't matter and we will be no worse off for it when we die. However, if there is something after death then we are obviously not meant to know what it is. It would appear that what's important is the here/now and what we do with our brief lives. I believe this is why we/life are compelled to stay alive. If we knew that something better came afterward then we would end it all to get there thus circumventing evolution/creation. This suggests to me that our lives and the here/now are very important even if we're not conscious of what that importance is.

Consciousness is the key. And consciousness will always be one step removed from comprehension. Therefore, those here looking to science to prove or disprove life after death are looking in the wrong place.
02:32 PM on 01/08/2010
"if there is something after death then we are obviously not meant to know what it is."

Isn't that what was once said about going to the moon?
If we were meant to go to the moon, we'd all have wings?

If man can think it, it's there to explore.

And I agree, consciousness is the key and beliefs is the
keyhole. The two combined opens doors.
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Craig Rhodes
03:06 PM on 01/08/2010
Who knows what the future may hold. However, given the fact that no one in all of human history has ever come back from the dead (barring theological arguments), we can only conclude that life seems to be designed to deal with the here and now. That was my point.
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08:25 PM on 02/09/2010
"If man can think it it's there to explore." Powerful! I have found this to be true. As a Christian, my thoughts go to so many Bible references on the power of our thoughts--which can be good news--and bad news. HA!
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08:55 AM on 01/08/2010
For that which we cannot see, feel, smell, touch or understand, we do not believe. For this, we are merely fools walking on the grounds of great potential with no comprehension of what is.
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09:49 PM on 01/08/2010
My 6th sense tells me your right.
10:01 AM on 01/10/2010
I suggest you read some books about theoretical physics. No one can feel, smell, or touch an individual atom and until very recently with special technology no one could see one. Yet there is a whole field of science based on them with practical applications from lasers to atomic power. Also, much of human psychology deals with understanding intangible things such as memory and consciousness and they are gradually making some real progress there.
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07:57 AM on 01/08/2010
Centuries ago, we believed that the sun and planets revolved around the Earth and this is now known as the "Geocentric Theory."

Later, we realized that the Earth and other planets revolve around the sun. This is known as the "Heliocentric Theory."

Then there is "Biocentrism" in which the universe revolves around you. This is more commonly known as the "Egocentric Theory."
02:26 PM on 01/09/2010
This is a misappropriation of biocentrism. Biocentrism simply suggests that the universe is dependent upon intelligent life for it's own creation, or 'recreation' and is a very rational theory.

In 1000 years, how far will our tech have come? already we can create a black hole. In 1000 years, we could potentially create a black hole and install the laws of our universe into it, creating another big bang universe somewhere else.

Since our universe is so grand, and we have an eternity to play with, this most likely has happened already. In an eternal or infinite system, anything that CAN happen DOES happen, an infinite number of times.
10:02 AM on 01/10/2010
Nice analogy, I agree.
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08:24 PM on 01/07/2010
We still operate under the laws of nature when we construct these theories. The 1st law is self preservation. The invention of religion or an afterlife is an intellectual manifestation of the human organism's desperate attempt at self preservation.

Consistent with that desire, but without the mythology, I am hoping as are many others, that quantum mechanics offers parallel universes so that we continue to live in another place when our body dies on this place.
01:35 AM on 01/08/2010
Well, this has a problem. Since who you are is partly a product of your experiences, and the experiences of the alternate you will be determined by different events in a different universe where the sumover histories have had different outcomes, well, the parallell you is really not you. Besides which, the parallell "you" has no idea that you exist, nor do you have any information about it. It's continued existence is not a continuation of your own consciousness in any meaningful way.
02:35 PM on 01/08/2010
"The invention of religion or an afterlife is an intellectual
manifestation of the human organism's desperate attempt
at self preservation."

Interesting observation. Now, substitute 'science' for 'religion
or an afterlife' and its still just as interesting. Darwin would
love it!
02:52 PM on 01/07/2010
One more thought - Osho once said (look him up if you don't know him. Youtube videos are delightful) "Everyone wants to know what happens AFTER death. No one asks me what happens BEFORE death."

In exactly the same manner, Richard Feynman remarked that everyone always asks about the unknown (in Physics), but the KNOWN is so beautiful and alive.... I feel the same way. How many hundreds of people are arguing about life after death in this post? But no one is remarking about the miracle of life we're in the middle of. We're all quite remarkable idiots.
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12:17 PM on 01/08/2010
I agree ShungaBliss. It is obvious that we are not meant to know what comes after death. Which indicates to me that what's important is the here and now. Therefore, we best get on with the program while here and let the rest take care of itself in due time.
02:34 PM on 01/07/2010
One of my favorite Richard Dawkins' books is A Devil's Chaplain. A collection of essays on science and religion/spirituality. One of those essays The Great Convergence describes Dawkins' view of new theories that try to apply quantum theory and other scientific concepts in religious ways. The essay was written before this author's most recent book but replace eastern mysticism with biocentrism and it describes "biocentrism" perfectly:

"another kind of convergence has been alleged between modern physics and eastern mysticism. The argument goes essentially as follows: Quantum mechanics .... is deeply mysterious and hard to understand. Eastern mystics have always been deeply mysterious and hard to understand. Therefor eastern mystics must have been talking about quantum theory all along. ... Sorry mumbo -jumbo is precisely what it is ... even down to the trademark misuse of 'energy'. ... It is also religion masquerading as science"
03:07 PM on 01/07/2010
"Sorry mumbo-jumbo is precisely what it is ... even down to the trademark misuse of 'energy'"

That is my favorite line. The energy in our brain is electricity, and when we die, it stops. Our body stops breaking down glucose to produce this energy. The electricity that would have been pulsing through our brains had we not died remains as stored energy in the glucose that hasn't been broken down. It's a pretty simple concept what happens to the "energy" in our bodies when we die.
03:47 PM on 01/07/2010
Thanks for injecting some actual science into the discussion. I've just been shaking my head when people write things like "the energy never dies" or "that pattern [brain energy] is not dependent on the biology itself" So obviously false.
02:28 PM on 01/09/2010
actually that quote is attributed to Stephan Hawking. It also doesnt really tell us anything about either, since both are mysterious, even the skeptics could not say if one mystery is similar to the other because, well, both are mysterious.
08:39 PM on 01/09/2010
Richard Dawkins. A Devil's Chaplin. Page 147. Look it up.

And I'm afraid you are missing the point, which is that people take quantum physics, which is very hard even for physicists to understand and also very counter intuitive to common sense logic, and then apply it in all sorts of inappropriate ways, which is exactly what this author is doing.
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12:36 PM on 01/07/2010
This all makes my head spin. I feel like I did just after watching "Donnie Darko": Dumb as a post, and unable to follow the science of it all (language is my area of expertise).
I just hope that when I'm dead, I'm dead. Done, over and out, no more anything.
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charlot
12:31 PM on 01/07/2010
I'm only 42, and I am TIRED. I can't imagine being alive forever, and even the thought of being alive until I'm 100 is horrifying to me. I just want to be done.....completely, permanently DONE.
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DarleenMB
01:37 PM on 01/07/2010
You misunderstand. Your BODY is finite. YOU are not.
01:48 PM on 01/07/2010
Based on what evidence? Please.. PLEASE don't say the bible.

To charlot, the most likely thing that happens when you die is the same thing that happened before you were born. Nothing. It's why I don't remember the 70's. I didn't exist. I won't remember the year 2100 either, because I won't exist.
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charlot
02:06 PM on 01/07/2010
No, I'm pretty sure I understood. I want ALL of me to be done......no trace whatsoever, like I was never here. No consciousness, no energy, whatever. Just press the 'delete' key and erase me for good. That's what I want.
06:12 PM on 01/07/2010
I'm slightly older than you. If I hadn't planned on being cold meat on a slab by age 30, there are definitely some things i would have done differently. Most of my body hurts me to one degree or another every day. I've got mild post- concussion issues. Senior moments arrived a little early. All the same I'm not TIRED. I'm sure i will be eventually, but 42 is too soon. Perhaps you should seek treatment for depression? Or have you got some horrible chronic physical ailment that's worn you out, that you didn't mention? I agree, though, 100 would be horrifying. Most people that make it even to 90 seem to have outlasted their brain's expiration date, and I don't want to exist as a shambling semi-vegetable, thank you. Not only that but, eternal life, even if I thought the arguments for such a thing were less completely unconvincing, sounds like an utter bore and a drag.
02:54 PM on 01/08/2010
Ah, faceplant, don't burst my bubble. I plan to live to
120 just out of spite--to Soc. Sec., and to those people
who think they are going to experience Utopia here on
earth! Oh, and because I have smoked since my early
teens. At 110, I want someone to convince me that I'm
gonna die if I don't quit.

Those 90 year olds? Try talking to them about something
other than iPods or Political Action Committees. They
are a fount of information of the human condition, you
know, what you and I are, human beings.

We're not machines that need an occasional check up
from the neck up. We don't exist for spare parts or the
next round of new bells and whistles. That's for your
generations. You'll eventually grow tired of it too.

And you'll sit there and contemplate your life. As boring
as you think it might have been, it has some really
bright and shining moments. You'll cherish those.

Happy dreams.
12:29 PM on 01/07/2010
Having said all of that, I am inclined to a faith of infinity. Quite simply, I believe once the space we inhabit exceeds the proportions of space that can be understood by the human mind, we are in effect living in an infinite space. Not only have our conscious, human brains failed to appreciate the scope of the universe, but so have our advanced physical sciences. While this appears to be a God of the gaps cop-out -- and it may be -- I tend to think the universe is much more complex, varied and grand than we can imagine, or even attempt to describe. It follows that such a universe would coalesce into conditions (through an infinite amount of time and potentialities) that would not only allow life to develop, but which would do something like a hyperbolic spike into what we think of as consciousness. An infinite regress (perhaps Nietzsche's Eternal Recurrence) which transforms ordinary energy and matter into extraordinarily complex systems that reflect the circumstances in which it developed. The implications of infinity seem to demand it, not only here in this body, on this earth, but in an infinite number of variations and forms "throughout" (a word, by the way, which is meaningless in an infinite expanse), whatever the hell it is that IS. This is Alan Watt's "IT" principle in the 21st century, on the Huffpost
10:09 AM on 01/10/2010
I think I got some of that. What I don't understand is why people like to spend time speculating on "the infinite" when there is a lot we know (and Donald Rumsfield forgive me a lot we know we don't know) about the infinite already. For example: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html To me the stuff about string theory and physics in general in this special is as trippy as any speculations about infinity and this stuff isn't speculation.
12:29 PM on 01/07/2010
This theory always struck me as highly indefensible, from a rational/scientific viewpoint. However, in a sense, it always struck me as quite apparent, as well. I know Brian Greene, for instance, rejects the ideas of Biocentrism. And this is a man who knows a great deal about the scientific study of, as he puts it, "The Fabric of the Cosmos." But it also seems that one must come to terms with the fundamental weakness of the idea of infinite space and time, before one is able to deduce outcomes from that potentiality. What I mean is, the implications of infinity are varied and quite wonderful. But you can't begin a scientific theory there. It's like starting with the concept "red" or "tree" or some other absolute categorical abstraction, and then expecting to derive a coherent argument for any and all purposes. This is a poor example, but the argument from the perspective of infinity, or consciousness-as-an-eternal-property, are also absolute abstractions. It's impossible to move from those ideas into a logical argument, because they don't hold up as logical foundations. To say the universe is infinite -- and therefore we inhabit the many worlds of the multiverse, through quantum tunnels -- is a faith statement. There may be some science to show that these things are possible on the elemental particle level, but there is no science to suggest one's consciousness may move into, or create, universes by the simple act of conscious observation of itself.
12:01 PM on 01/07/2010
It seems I ran out of words on my previous comment. I wanted to end with the fact that the more one feels that the Consciousness you possess is not YOURS, but something inherent IN THE EXISTENCE ITSELF (I love caps) - the more your own consciousness becomes crystal clear and happy.

Someone pointed out that without facts and evidence, there's no science, that one's interior experience via "mediation" doesn't really work with the scientific method. That, of course, is a valid point. How can one differentiate between perception of the actual and imaginative creation of false experience? If anyone wants to reply, I'm happy to start a conversation.
01:06 PM on 01/07/2010
We differentiate it based on past experience. Humans have sensory systems that have evolved to perform specific tasks.

For example, rods and cones in our eyes capture light, and send signals to our brain based on the wavelength of light. The colours that we perceive are a representation of the different signals (photons of light) that were captured by our eyes. The mechanism is the same in all humans (except those with color blindness), and our other sensory organs work in a similar way. Therefore, we can literally test a person's ability to perceive the world compared to what is "normal", or what our senses are designed to do.

Chances are that if someone claims to be communicating with spirits, hearing voices, or essentially having hallucinations, it can be linked to a defect in the nervous system - which can be tested. If a defect isn't found, then it still proves nothing for the simple fact that the experience is not reproducible. It is unique to the individual. They could even be lying and making it up.

The truth is people are coming up with these "theories" of energy transfer and spirits and yadda yadda, without any solid evidence to back it up, nor even any ideas on how to test it. People should simply admit what they don't know, and OBSERVE the universe to find an explanation. We shouldn't be inventing an explanation and then searching for evidence to support it. That is pseudoscience.
01:54 PM on 01/07/2010
I think you missed the point. I said absolutely nothing about low level garden variety "psychic experiences." And, really, I completely agree with you. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, as they say, to realize that people can hallucinate according their underlying belief systems. What I did say, though, is that the experience of universal consciousness, which is well-documented across thousands of years of meditative experience, correlates strongly with reports of extreme bliss. Now, if one is REALLY a scientist, you design experiments to see what this correlation is. Is it hallucinogenic or is it a response to a connection with the purported consciousness? AND please, don't use the tired adage that there's no "proof." Superstring Theory (read your Brian Greene) shows that the only way to mathematically unite the 4 known forces in the Standard Model is to expand the definition of what things are made of from 4 dimensional point particles (in Quantum Mechanics or General Relativity) to 11 dimensional vibrations (10 of space and 1 of time.) Now, if the universe is made of 11 dimensional vibrations, they and the world they create may have self-responsive sensitivities. That's called consciousness.
03:18 PM on 01/08/2010
"...then it still proves nothing for the simple fact that the
experience is not reproducible..."

An experience is yours, and yours alone. It isn't something
to prove, to put in a test tube and mix chemicals with. it's
an event to learn from. An accumulation of experiences
and your beliefs about those experiences is who you are.
But you are greater than the sum of your parts. Aren't you?