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Robert Naiman

Robert Naiman

Posted: June 8, 2010 03:37 PM

Reset: Stephen Kinzer's Vision of a New U.S. Relationship with Turkey and Iran

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Until quite recently, it seemed that Turkey had a clearly defined role in the Middle East, from the standpoint of U.S. policy. They were the "good Muslims," who were part of NATO, who contributed troops to U.S. wars, and who had good relations with Israel.

In the past few weeks, therefore, some Americans may have been startled to see the government of Turkey seemingly playing a very different role. First, together with Brazil, Turkey negotiated a nuclear fuel swap agreement with Iran to defuse the standoff over Iran's nuclear program and forestall a controversial U.S./Israeli push for new sanctions against Iran at the U.N. Although the deal was very similar to one proposed by the Obama Administration - and Brazil and Turkey had a letter from Obama encouraging them to press forward with the deal - Obama Administration officials dismissed the deal, and far from being grateful to Turkey and Brazil, made a show of being angry. But instead of being chastened, Turkey and Brazil insisted their deal was good - invoking their letter from Obama to demonstrate their case - and insisted that the U.S. should pursue it.

Meanwhile - with much more spectacular results, as it turned out - Turkey gave indirect backing to an international convoy of ships carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza in protest and defiance of the U.S.-approved Israeli-Egyptian siege of Gaza's civilian population. When the Israeli military attacked the convoy, killing nine Turkish citizens, Turkey threatened to break diplomatic relations with Israel, unless Israel apologized, agreed to an international investigation of the attack, and lifted the blockade on Gaza. Meanwhile, Turkey sharply criticized the Obama Administration's unwillingness to condemn the Israeli attack or to support an international investigation. In the wake of this high-profile confrontation, Egypt announced that it would leave its border with Gaza open indefinitely, and went so far as to claim credit for having "broken the blockade."

Does Turkey's new, more independent foreign policy represent a threat to America? Or might Turkey's new policies present an opportunity for a new alignment that addresses and de-escalates the conflicts of the broader Middle East?

Since many Americans know little about Turkey, many may find it plausible when Liz Cheney claims that "it looks like" Turkey is "supporting Hamas" in "wanting to destroy the state of Israel."

It's a very opportune time to hear from former New York Times correspondent and bestselling author Stephen Kinzer, whose new book "Reset: Iran, Turkey, and America's Future" is published today. Kinzer argues that the world has changed sufficiently since the Cold War so that a fundamental rebalancing of U.S. relationships in the Middle East, away from excessive attachment to the current policies of the Israeli and Saudi governments and towards greater cooperation with Turkey and Iran, would be in the interests of the United States. [Kinzer will be speaking about the book in a free webinar Friday; here are some other upcoming Kinzer appearances.]

Virtual Brown Bag with Stephen Kinzer, June 11 at 1pm. Click here for more info and to register.

Kinzer's case for a new relationship with Turkey and Iran may strike many Americans as unintuitive, particularly in the case of Iran. But Kinzer's basic point is that a strategic vision for the future isn't merely an extrapolation from the present: it's an ability to envision a future realignment that would be fundamentally different, just as President Nixon saw the possibility for a fundamentally different relationship between the U.S. and China, based on "mutual interests and mutual respect," as President Obama put it in his speech to the Turkish Parliament in April 2009.

Kinzer begins his case with the story of Howard Baskerville, the Rachel Corrie, if you will, of U.S.-Iran relations: a young American whose life and death suggests the possibility of a different relationship between the U.S. and Iran, one based on sympathy for Iranian national aspirations. Baskerville was a Presbyterian schoolteacher from Nebraska working in the city of Tabriz when royalist forces supported by Russia and Britain - who had agreed between themselves in 1907 to partition the country into spheres of influence - laid siege to the city during the Constitutional Revolution. Baskerville - like the nine Turks - was trying to break the siege when he was killed by a sniper in April 1909. Today, Kinzer notes, Baskerville is among the most honored foreigners in Iran: schools and streets are named after him; a bust of him is on display at Constitution House in Tabriz.

Another American in Iran in this period whose contribution suggested the possibility of a different relationship between the U.S. and Iran was Morgan Shuster, appointed Treasurer General of Persia by the Iranian parliament in May 1911. The goal of his appointment was to assist the Iranian Parliament in resisting British and Russian control. Shuster argued that it was essential for the effective functioning of the Iranian state for it to be able to collect taxes - including from wealthy landowners under British and Russian protection. The Russians and the British had other ideas, and in December 1911, Russia demanded that Parliament dismiss Shuster in 48 hours, and promise not to employ foreigners without the permission of the Russians and the British. When Parliament refused to comply, Russian troops occupied Tehran, and under Russian and British pressure, Shuster was dismissed.

In February 1921, in the face of widespread Iranian resistance to direct British control, the commander of British forces in Iran, General Edmond Ironside, told Reza Shah that if he staged a coup, Britain would not object. Four days later, Reza Shah successfully carried out a coup. Although Reza Shah came to power with British support, he took some measures to limit British influence, and when he tried to keep Iran neutral in World War II, Britain forced him to abdicate in favor of his son, Mohammad Reza Shah, in September 1941.

After the war, many Iranians wanted and expected more democracy and more freedom from British control, and by 1950 Mohammad Mossadegh was a key standard-bearer of these two ideas. When the American oil company Aramco made a fifty-fifty split of oil revenues with Saudi Arabia, Iranians demanded the same deal from the British-controlled Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (now known as British Petroleum.) But the British refused to raise Iran's 16 percent share. In response to the British refusal to negotiate, in the spring of 1951, the Parliament voted to nationalize Iran's oil and made Mossadegh Prime Minister.

To prevent Iran from successfully reclaiming its oil, Britain ordered all British oil technicians to return home, mounted a boycott campaign to make sure oil technicians from other countries did not come to Iran, persuaded oil companies in other countries, including the US, to refuse to buy any oil Iran produced, imposed a naval blockade on Iran to prevent tankers from entering to pick up oil, and froze Iran's accounts in London and stopped exporting key commodities to Iran. Sound familiar?

These measures, of course, brought tremendous economic hardship to Iran. Unemployment and poverty increased. But the Iranian government under Mossadegh refused to capitulate to British pressure. Britain tried its hand at "democracy promotion" - bribing members of Iran's parliament to support a no-confidence notion against Mossadegh - but their plotting was discovered, and Mossadegh shut down the British embassy, sending home all the British "diplomats" - including the British spies who had been assigned the task of overthrowing him. The British turned to the Truman Administration, but Truman wasn't interested in promoting regime change in Iran, believing that the impasse was largely due to excessive British greed. But the incoming Eisenhower Administration was easily sold on the idea of promoting regime change.

How did CIA operative Kermit Roosevelt orchestrate the coup that ousted Mossadegh? Today it would be called "democracy promotion," and perhaps it would be funded by the so-called National Endowment for Democracy. Roosevelt bribed "newspaper columnists, mullahs, and members of Parliament" to denounce Mossaedegh; they called him "an atheist, a Jew, a homosexual, and even a British agent," Kinzer notes. Roosevelt hired a street gang to rampage through Tehran, "firing pistols and smashing windows while shouting, 'We love Mossadegh and Communism!'" Then Roosevelt hired a second street gang to attack the first one, "seeking to portray Mossadegh as unable to control his own capital city." A mob of several thousand, unaware that it was acting under the direction of the CIA, converged on Mossadegh's house. Military units began shelling the house. Hundreds of people were killed. Mossadegh was arrested and imprisoned for three years, followed by house arrest for life.

If Truman's view had won out rather than Eisenhower's, and the US had not overthrown Mossadegh, perhaps today we would know Mossadegh as a George Washington of Iran. The "murder of Hamlet's dad" of the Kinzer story is that instead of supporting a George Washington of Iran, we overthrew him, because he nationalized Iran's oil. And the central question of the Kinzer story is not avenging the death of Hamlet's dad, but trying to rectify it, with the goal being that the end of the story not be a stage littered with bodies but a negotiated agreement and a new relationship.

To illustrate the enduring impact of the coup on U.S.-Iran relations, Kinzer relates a story told by Bruce Laingen, the senior American diplomat held hostage in Iran after students took over the US embassy in 1979, motivated in part by fears of another US-backed coup. One day, after Laingen had spent more than a year as a hostage, one of his captors visited him in his cell. Laingen exploded, shouting that this hostage-taking was immoral, illegal and "totally wrong." His captor replied: "You have nothing to complain about. The United States took our whole country hostage in 1953."

Yet in response to a reporter's question in February 1980 about the coup - almost a year before Laingen's interaction with the guard - then-President Carter said, "That's ancient history, and I don't think it's appropriate or helpful for me to go into the propriety of something that happened 30 years ago."

If it's true, as many are fond of saying, that "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it," then an obvious corollary would be that those who want to repeat history have a vested interest in keeping history off the table of discussion. And when one considers the policies being advocated by the likes of the Washington Post editorial board towards Iran today, they bear a strong resemblance to the policies adopted by Britain and the U.S. towards Iran in 1953: sanctions, "democracy promotion," regime change.

In his speech in Cairo a year ago, President Obama acknowledged US involvement in the 1953 coup, the first US President to do so. "In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically elected Iranian government," Obama said.

Of course, the US intervention did not end with the 1953 coup; for the next twenty-five years, the US strongly backed the Shah's autocratic rule. Kinzer writes: "With the United States firmly behind him, the shah became an absolute dictator." Several members of Congress raised questions about human rights; they were told that the shah had made "important changes" and there was a "gratifying trend" toward respect for dissent. But as Kinzer notes, Amnesty International observed in 1975 that "no country in the world has a worse record in human rights than Iran."

Meanwhile, President Carter, who had claimed that "human rights is the soul of our foreign policy," had this to say to the Shah in late 1977: "Iran, under the great leadership of the Shah, is an island of stability in one of the more troubled areas of the world. This is a great tribute to you, your Majesty, and to your leadership - and to the respect, admiration, and love which your people give to you." A year later, throngs of Iranian were chanting: "Death to the American Shah!" And in January 1979, the Shah fled.

But even after the Shah fell, from the point of view of many Iranians, U.S. intervention in Iran did not cease. It is believed by many Iranians that the U.S. had a hand in Saddam Hussein's decision to invade Iran in 1980. What is beyond dispute is that the US vigorously backed Iraq during the war, at a time when "American intelligence officers knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons" against Iran, according to an August 2002 report in the New York Times, which noted that "Iraq's use of gas in that conflict is repeatedly cited by President Bush ... as justification for ''regime change'' in Iraq."

But despite this history, Kinzer notes, after the September 11 attacks, Iran actively collaborated with the U.S. against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan, common foes. The State Department produced a report saying that the U.S. had a "real opportunity" to remake its relationship with Iran, a report endorsed by the CIA. But in January 2002, to the bewilderment of the Iranians, President Bush denounced Iran as part of an "axis of evil." Nonetheless, a year later, Iran proposed comprehensive talks with the United States. Iran would ask the U.S. to lift economic sanctions, guarantee Iran access to peaceful nuclear technology, and oppose anti-Iranian terrorist groups. In exchange, Iran would accept "full transparency" in its nuclear program, end any "material support" for Hizbullah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad, increase its cooperation with the U.S. against al Qaeda, and accept Israel within its 1967 borders. But the Bush Administration ignored the proposal.

It's important to note that while the President of Iran has changed since that 2003 Iranian proposal, the Supreme Leader - the final arbiter in foreign affairs and security policy - has not. This suggests that a similar negotiation might still be possible. Indeed, the recent successful negotiation by Brazil and Turkey with Iran for the nuclear fuel swap along the lines previously endorsed by the Obama Administration also suggests that the prospect of meaningful agreements between the U.S. and Iran is quite realistic, should the U.S. choose to pursue them.

And Turkey is uniquely positioned to act as a bridge, not just as a bridge between the U.S. and Iran, but between Israel and the Arab countries, and potentially, between the U.S. and the Taliban. For the last several years, Turkey has pursued a foreign policy of trying to improve relations with its neighbors, and trying to help its neighbors improve their relations with each other. Turkey mediated talks between Israel and Syria. Turkey helped persuade Iraqi Sunnis to participate in the post-Saddam Iraqi political process. Despite the recent conflict with Israel, it's still far and away the Muslim country with the best relationship with Israel, including a strong relationship between the two countries' militaries. "No other nation is respected by Hamas, Hizbullah, and the Taliban while also maintaining good ties with the Israeli, Lebanese, and Afghan governments," Kinzer writes.

Turkey has escaped from America's orbit...Turkey's new role, however, holds great promise for the United States. As a Muslim country intimately familiar with the region around it, Turkey can go places, engage partners, and make deals that America cannot. What it has done to separate itself from the United States - refusing to allow American troops to invade Iraq from Turkish territory, for example, or denouncing Israel's actions in Gaza - has enhanced its reputation in other Muslim countries. That strengthens its ability to influence them.

Some powerful Americans appear to believe that negotiating, reconciling, and perhaps building a partnership with Iran would be a form of surrender. Henry Kissinger crystallized this view when asked how the U.S. should deal with its Muslim adversaries:

"They want to humiliate us," he said. "We need to humiliate them."

But the goal of diplomacy should be to advance our interests, not to punish, Kinzer argues. None of the chief American goals in the Middle East, including stabilizing Iraq, achieving a peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians, and marginalizing Al Qaeda, are likely to be achieved without Iran's cooperation. An isolated Iran is likely to be a spoiler. An integrated Iran could be a stabilizing power, a provider of security, a motor of economic development.

Kinzer lists some potential benefits of a new relationship with Iran, including:

- Iran can do more than any other country to assure peace in Iraq.
- Iran can help stabilize Afghanistan.
- Iran can help moderate and broker agreements with groups like Hamas and Hizbullah.
- An alliance between the U.S. and Iran would weaken Al Qaeda, their common foe.
- Improved relations would open up new opportunities for economic cooperation.

U.S. presidents have rejected compromise with Iran because the U.S. would have to recognize Iran as an important power with legitimate security interests. But Iran is already a regional power, Kinzer notes. That's not going to change, no matter what the U.S. does. The smart policy is to acknowledge this fact, just as Nixon's policy acknowledged the regional power of China.

When the U.S. and China signed the Shanghai Communiqué of 1972, China was engaged in behavior that was at least as offensive to the U.S. as anything that Iran is doing today. China was supplying weapons to the anti-U.S. insurgency in Vietnam. Nixon did not make "good behavior" a condition of negotiation. Agreement came first; changes in behavior followed.

During the presidential campaign, Senator Obama was articulating these ideas: don't make as a precondition of the negotiation things that you are trying to achieve. But recently, the Obama Administration seems to have reverted to the Bush Administration's policy, appearing to insist that Iran suspend the enrichment of uranium before the U.S. and Iran have anything to talk about.

Yet, the presence of Turkey on the scene could be a game-changer. In the last few weeks, we've gone from a situation where the siege of Gaza was a non-issue to the U.S. to one in which the U.S. is saying that the siege of Gaza must go. What intervened were a set of actions in which Turkey played an indispensable role. If Turkey can play a similar role with respect to the dispute between the U.S. and Iran over Iran's nuclear program, the world will become a fundamentally different - and much better - place.

 

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01:51 PM on 06/14/2010
"And Turkey is uniquely positioned to act as a bridge, not just as a bridge between the U.S. and Iran, but between Israel and the Arab countries, and potentially, between the U.S. and the Taliban" - this can't be overstated, yet our government outright ignores it. The US continues to treat Turkey like a 'Third World' country - it is not. It is a complex republic with a growing economy, a modern urbanized culture, and considerable political influence to the south and west of it. It is understandable that some European nations would not want Turkey in the EU, since it's strong economy would give it considerable leverage. But that the US continues to snub Turkey diplomatically is deplorable and self-defeating. Turkey has demonstrated remarkable tenacity and persistance in trying to establish dialog with the EU, the US, and even Israel; but unless we show them respect and work with them more closely, their patience will not prove infinite.
12:56 AM on 06/11/2010
Turkey would do well to align themselves with countries in their region. France doesn't hide the fact that they will do anything to keep Turkey out of the EU. And NATO has demonstrated that Turkish ships can be boarded in international waters by a foreign military without a peep from them about it.

I wonder how long now till France invites Israel to join the EU?
01:24 AM on 06/10/2010
Well, it certainly looks like Israel's days are numbered. And not a day too soon. Thankfully, there will be some Palestinians left to tell their story.

Boycott, divest & sanction Israel!
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CigarGod
What is your process?
03:35 PM on 06/09/2010
Please TAKE ACTION and DEMAND that the United Nations launch an independent investigation into the Israeli attack against unarmed relief ships in the Freedom Flotilla. DEMAND that the international community stop simply condemning Israel's brutal and illegal blockade of Gaza - and start doing something to end it!

CONTACT

UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon

The United Nations, New York NY 10017
tel: +1 212 963 5012
fax: +1 212 963 2155 or 212-963-4879
email: un.orgorg -or- sg at un dot org
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b525
02:58 PM on 06/09/2010
It seems quite odd that Turkey would be protesting the oppression of the Palestinians in Israel when they continue to this day to oppress and silence their large Kurdish population which makes up 1/5th of the population of Turkey.

The recent censorship and harrasment of the Kurds in Turkey is most likely to stop any protest concerning the building of the Illisu Dam project on the Tigris River in southeast Turkey. This series of 22 mega-dams will stop the flow of the ancient Tigris River and severely reduce river water flows downstream to Syria and Iraq.

This will severely impact Syrian and Iraqi farmers, Tigris river fisheries and drinking water availabilty downstream.

This dam project will also heavily impact the Tigris/Euphrates river delta which is already severely water starved and damaged.

This will be one of the largest dam/hydroelectric projects ever built on earth.

In order to build these dams the government of Turkey has to forcibly remove thousands of Kurds from their ancient river valley homes/villages because the Illisu Dam project will permanently flood these river valleys with enormous dam reservoirs which will likely cover/flood hundreds of miles of river valley.

The Kurds only official political party, the DTP, was recently banned from the Turkish constitutional court/government.....now 15 million Kurds in Turkey (1/5 of Turkey's citizens) have no representation or voice in government.
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03:41 PM on 06/10/2010
The situation of the Kurds and the Palestinians are not comparable. Kurds have all the rights of Turkish citizens, and they have not lost representation in government. They still have a vote - just not a special interest party focussed on their particular agenda that they can vote for. It is a separation movement, and while much can be said in favor of the Kurdish independence - it would set a dangerous precedent, given the multi-ethnic history of Turkey, to the whole country falling apart, or many other groups claiming language rights/protection etc.

Israel has been very active in supporting the Kurds, probably a reason why Erdogan is fed up with them.

see

http://gulfnews.com/opinions/columnists/tel-aviv-faces-a-formidable-middle-east-coalition-1.639476
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NoraHuffposter
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12:58 PM on 06/09/2010
Kinzer's vision of strategic relationships with Iran and Turkey may very well end up being one that cannot be ignored. Escalating conflicts between the US and the two countries through inflammatory language like Clinton's statement that 'Iran will pull some stunt' doesn't benefit anyone.
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Kenyatta J Yamel
02:23 PM on 06/09/2010
I agree with you. Kinzer's ideas are much better thought out than those of Clinton and unfortunately by extension President Obama.
11:39 AM on 06/09/2010
@ Mr. Naiman
Whose Iran are you talking about? Ahmadi...'s Islamic Republic? Did you forget about the events of the last year so soon? The regime in Iran wants nothing but to sit in the driver's seat. That would be a bad mistake for the US. One should not loose his patience. Raise the pressure on Iran as the regime is getting on his knees. Hit them harder as they start to run!
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RobertNaiman
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11:57 AM on 06/09/2010
Dear Roozbeh:

There are three choices for addressing the conflict(s) between the US and Iran: diplomacy, sanctions, or war.

I'm for diplomacy.

Which option do you prefer?
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Pye Ian
02:34 PM on 06/09/2010
Great point, Robert.

Sanctions won't work, despite Russia and China's seemingly accomodating recent stances, which only provide window dressings for the UN, because Iran remains too important to them economically and geostrategically (as well as to the rest of the non-alligned movement, BRIC and Shanghai Cooperation Organization member nations...).

*Any* conflict with Iran would escalate into a regional - and possibly global - quagmire, and would irreparably harm US interests.

The truth is as Kinzer has outlined it: The smartest American foreign policy move would be to shift Iran policy completely, and by doing so, ideally pull Iran away from the growing Russo-Chinese Axis.
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persianadvocate
02:24 PM on 06/09/2010
Roozbeh-joon,

Many members and leaders of Iran's opposition agree that Iran has a legal right to enrichment under the NPT. In addition, 189 countries (including a vocally reluctant US) unanimously voted to force Israel to sign the NPT and to destroy its rogue arsenal without compromise. No mention of Iran was made because despite the Israeli led criticism and PR campaigns to depict an Iranian nuclear bogeyman, Iran is actually not doing ANYTHING wrong. The agency that monitors nuclear programs states that, as of most recently, Iran has not deviated from the NPT and continues to allow monitors into enrichment sites. Iran is being sanctioned here without any supporting evidence. Why? When it comes to Middle East policy, the US government, pretty much on all levels, kowtows to the pro-Israeli PAC lobby - mastheaded by AIPAC. Israel, mind you, benefits from a weakened Iran with a fractured economy and villain-PR status. So, they push for Iranian sanctions based on an undefinable fear -- a non-existent, but tabloid-compatible existential threat.

The opposition should not support an unjustified attack on the regime because it allows the regime to disprove lies against it and, therefore, opportune for the higher ground. They are evil enough without lies!!!!!! There is an active hijacking going on of the freedom movement, and some of it is from this unjustified, hypocritical nuclear angle. Be careful with our message, for Neda and the rest.
11:04 AM on 06/09/2010
Too bad the Amercian voters have zero say in our policies in the middle east. Our policy in the middle east is written in Tel Aviv. We just take orders. So to think that we're going to abandon Israel is a myth. It will never happen until there is serious campainge finance reform and foreign lobbyist are cut out of the loop
08:29 AM on 06/09/2010
Clearly, the Young Turks are no longer in control of Turkey.
05:29 AM on 06/09/2010
I think "Turkey's new policies present an opportunity for a new alignment that addresses and de-escalates the conflicts of the broader Middle East."

I applaud Turkey's actions . . . is it possible that America is upset because Turkey has stolen its thunder over Iran and its nuclear power?

America by its aiding and abetting the apartheid regime in israel is destroying itself and will soon find itself broke and alone.
08:52 AM on 06/09/2010
Macready,
I'm putting in an order for Kinzer's book. I agree, where the current situation (engineered by the USA & other major powers) offers the region little or next to nothing but war, occupation, oppression, troublesome meddling in their govts., extortion or nearly so, of resources.

There finally, however, are some grown-ups on the scene. We are not offering the region anything close to stability, but others are busy stepping up to the plate. What a relief it will be to everyone when our influence is diminished, & isn't that a sorry state that for all our ideals, in reality our practices have been so malevolent for the region.
09:22 AM on 06/09/2010
with you all the way alexa07 .. . . I plan to order the book too!
09:41 AM on 06/09/2010
So true Macready - well said.
I worry what trouble will be made for Turkey though.
01:38 AM on 06/09/2010
"Iran's mullahs are lying in wait for the opportunity to stoke their fires and plow the region into turmoil ... all other Arab and Muslim countries... put aside their differences and unite against the oppressive Iranian influence. ."
http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=2&id=18782
Any questions?”
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
05:49 AM on 06/09/2010
Yes. Of course, I'd get more accurate information consultinga Tarot deck than I'd get from asking you, so stick your head back in the echo chamber, until they tell you to pull it out and regurgitate all over the boards.
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persianadvocate
02:27 PM on 06/09/2010
lmao!!
03:01 PM on 06/10/2010
Nobody stokes more fires and promotes more turmoil than Israel.
01:38 AM on 06/09/2010
Lugubriously misguided Anti-Americanism at its most inane.
12:39 AM on 06/09/2010
Turkey and Iran are looking for war. Siding with them will not de-escalate anything but will increase the war.
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mitaka
07:29 AM on 06/09/2010
When was the last time the US started a war? When was the last time Iran started a war??

The hypocrisy is just too much to bear.
08:40 AM on 06/09/2010
How could they ever want a war with the strongest military power in the world ? They perfectly know they have zero chances to win this war and that it would undermine their economic interests.
09:42 AM on 06/09/2010
Give it a rest Arik - you talk out the side of your neck.
11:59 PM on 06/08/2010
"Kinzer argues that the world has changed sufficiently since the Cold War so that a fundamental rebalancing of U.S. relationships in the Middle East, away from excessive attachment to the current policies of the Israeli and Saudi governments and towards greater cooperation with Turkey and Iran, would be in the interests of the United States."

Whoever can provide stability in the region will garner enduring gratitude.
05:29 AM on 06/09/2010
well said . . . alexa07
09:59 PM on 06/09/2010
it's tragic that Americans, like me, who worked hard and placed hope in Obama, now are forced to vest their hopes for rational foreign policy in Davutoglu's pursuit of rational good neighbor relations, Erdogan's willingness to take risks, and Ahmadinejad's and the Iranian people's capacity to act strategically and endure patiently. iow, US is once again screwing Iran.

Kinzer, can you print your book on billboards all around Washington?? PLEASE!
11:24 PM on 06/09/2010
BughouseWW,
Totally fav'd! Put up those billboards! Today it was painful to watch President Obama talk about consequences when practically every other govt. (even UK, which is saying a lot) condemned the IDF attack upon the flotilla, but he has not, only saying the blockade that generated the incident is "unsustainable." Nothing or very little about the regime promoting it. Who are the unmentionable ghosts enforcing it? No descriptive words, none. Could that be because the blockade has been just as much a part of our policy as Israel's?

Our foreign policies in the region have wrecked havoc, mayhem, war, occupation of territories, death to thousands & thousands. This new round of sanctions on Iran makes it clear to the entire world there is nothing new, just more of the same vindictive policies that will lead nowhere but to more ruin & mayhem in the region. No wonder regional actors are standing up & saying, "Enough. You are wrong." Imagine the relief the Vietnamese people felt when they saw those last planes leave.
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
10:59 PM on 06/08/2010
The biggest obstacle to the US realising in time that it should have tried for a non-hostile relationship with Iran is the US collective mindset. While the US could reach a detente with China and Russia, this was due to the US not having suffered an embarassing defeat at their direct hands, and, strangely enough, because they weren't democracies. (megotiating with essentially one man, who does not need to get approval from a body of elected politicians, is a lot easier than than the other way around, and there is only one clock, counting down to one set of electoins, to keep an eye on).

As it is, I don't think the US will take action until the dynamics have firmly changed, and Turkey no longer sees itself as the Muslim world's gateway to the rest of the world, but instead the Caucasian world's gateway to the rest of the world.

And that world, which will be centered on the swoop (Iran, Pakistan, India, China) is likely to be dominated by the Iranians (they have good relations with all the others, they don't have the pockets of deep poverty or the largely uneducated rural population moving to the cities to slow them down, they have an abundance of energy resources, and other natural resources, and a growing population of young, educated, urban middle class citizens without a large generation of elders to weigh them down)
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alimostofi
Astrologer, Commentator
05:25 AM on 06/09/2010
Richard Pearce you state "they don't have the pockets of deep poverty or the largely uneducated rural population moving to the cities to slow them down,"

You are badly wrong.
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
05:45 AM on 06/09/2010
ali, the country has changed a lot since the Shah left.
02:39 PM on 06/10/2010
Richard, you forgot to include Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, and the majority of the rest of the non-alligned movement nations on Iran's behalf. Apparently, Iran is serving as the nexus point for the rest of the world against Anglo-American-EU-Israeli (Rothschild) designs for global hegemony.
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
03:10 PM on 06/10/2010
Nice try to make my point seem ridiculous by linking it to a conspiracy theorist based idea.

In time, Russia might turn into what Turkey was, a sort of half-in, half-out bridge between where the power now is, and where the power used to be, and South America will probably turn into a powerful strategic ally (if it doesn't end up turning into a rival center of power), but the demographics and underlying dynamics are going to see a shift who dominates the scientific/economic/cultural landscape.