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Gingrich's Social Security Plan: Privatize Gains, Socialize Losses

Posted: 11/29/2011 8:23 am

Last week, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich unveiled details of his plan to partially privatize Social Security. His plan would allow younger workers to contribute a portion of their payroll tax obligation to a private investment account. Roughly speaking, Gingrich is signing on to the legislation from 2004 sponsored by Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) and former Senator John Sununu (R-NH).

Like any plan to introduce private accounts, Gingrich must first explain how he will fund benefits for current retirees. Presently, existing benefits are paid for by the payroll tax contribution from current workers -- with private accounts, those payroll taxes would be diverted to private accounts. But I've talked about that issue before in relation to the plans of Herman Cain and Rick Perry, so I won't repeat it here. (If you are interested in how the funding issue applies to Gingrich's plan in particular, read this piece by Eric Black.)

Instead I want to focus on a separate aspect of Gingrich's plan: the protection from downside risk. Under Gingrich's plan (see page 17), if an individual's investments sour, then (see page 17) "[T]he Treasury will send them a check to make up the difference" between their investments and their promised benefits. This guarantee is also part of the Ryan-Sununu plan.

But, as Pat Garofalo at ThinkProgress noted,

[P]romising to make investors whole again sets up a huge moral hazard problem. If investors know full well that the government is going to provide them with a minimum benefit, no matter what they do, then the incentive is to make risky investments and hope for a big payoff. After all, why not take the risk if the government has guaranteed that you can't lose money? Investors have every incentive to bet big in the hopes of a large payout, because if they go bust, the government will bail them out.

Gingrich counters that private account holders could invest only in a select few funds -- each of which would be regulated by the government to meet basic diversification requirements. From his plan (again see page 17):

Because the government authorizes and regulates all investment funds, it is able to manage the risk of the personal accounts. This provides a key check on excessively high-risk investing, and all but ensures that the returns accrued in the personal accounts are more than adequate for retirement.

Gingrich is correct that his plan would not allow an individual to invest purely in, say, the latest social networking IPO. But under the Ryan-Sununu plan that Gingrich emulates, investors could still choose a fund that has higher risk and reward -- such as a fund invested only in international stocks, or small-cap stocks.

Furthermore, Gingrich's plan explicitly allows individuals to (see page 16) quickly switch between funds -- meaning that investors could increase their risk and return by attempting to time the market. These investors would know that if they happened to guess incorrectly -- or if their risky exposure to international stocks soured -- the Treasury's guarantee would protect them from losses.

The protection from downside risk is would be more palatable if investment choice is further restricted to, for instance, balanced or target-date funds. And the plan would have to restrict reallocation within the same account, so that workers could not increase their risk by attempting to guess market trends. However, even with these further restrictions, any federal guarantee of losses from equity investments is a bad idea -- the government is taking the downside risk, but the individual gets any upside gain.

In short, you can't have it both ways: you cannot allow individuals to take on more risk while retaining the absolute safety net of Social Security. If Gingrich believes that privatization is the way to go, his plan needs to force individual workers -- rather than taxpayers as a whole -- to bear the risk of poor investment returns.

 
 
 

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12:20 AM on 12/01/2011
Here is my five point plan to reform payroll entitlements, i.e. SS and medicare:
1. Means Test
Stop transferring resources from poorer working citizens to wealthier retired citizens.
2. Let revenue = expenditures
Stop the notion that there is any trust fund. Calculate the payroll tax based on the expected expenditures.
3. Remove the employer portion
Correct the fallacy that somehow the burden of the payroll tax is split between employee and employer. Most economists admit, even Paul Krugman, that the employer's portion really comes from employee wages. Let citizens realize the full burden of the tax.
4. Remove the cap
If payroll it the element being taxed, let every dollar be taxed the same (not progressive, not regressive)
5. Add an addition 5% private accounts (with inheritance rights)
Let the next generation of retirees have at least been forced to save something (since their children will be forced to provide resources). The means testing will at least mean that next generation will have less of an obligation to provide resources. Maybe someday citizens in this country will leave resources to the next generation. It'll sure beat the debt we've been left.
12:33 PM on 12/01/2011
So if the employer part paid into Social Security really comes from employee wages, then why would they want the employee to 'realize the full burden of the tax? Maybe the employer doesn't plan on paying the amount neither as wages nor for Social Security.
09:28 PM on 12/02/2011
Employers pays wages based on the market (except when restricted by government). It is a trivial economic reality that separating the payroll tax into two portions does nothing beneficial for the employee. I believe even the most left of leftist economists (think Paul Krugman) will admit that.
12:40 PM on 12/01/2011
Maybe we shouldn't meanstest since we paid the money for retirement. The government has nothing to do with it, except they need to pay as we cash in the bonds.

Those resources you don't want to transfer are our resources. We have paid into Social Security for 45 years.

Right, removing the cap is good. Each earned dollar is already taxed the same until you get to $108,000.

It is not the citzens who ran up the debt. It was our government who went in debt for the Bush Tax cuts and wars.

You need to catch up.
09:24 PM on 12/02/2011
Who is we? Past taxpayers over paid the payroll tax based on the payroll entitlements, but they underpaid based on annual outlays made by their elected government (just like we do today). It was all government force, but taxpayer money.

The resource being transferred today are those earned by today's wage earners. No resources were put aside in the past. Instead, they were consumed.

Citizens from earlier tax years elected representatives that were willing to consume more resources (at the government level) than they required from taxpayers. They did this by putting debt onto future generations. This is called "generational theft".
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gx5000
Life's too short, be happy..
04:06 PM on 11/30/2011
Privatize Gains, Socialize Losses..... facepalm.
03:44 PM on 11/30/2011
What a great article on why defined benefit pension plans should not be allowed to exist for public employees where the taxpayer is on the hook for any investment losses (heck, just sub-parr returns) made by the hedge funds they invest in. Ooops, same article, different title.

The solution is obvious, but very painful. You cannot earn a risk free return without investing in risk free assets. The only (credit) risk free asset is a government bond. If you want to allow private account social security or defined benefit plans supported by the taxpayer the only allowed investment should be US government bonds. At least then the taxpayer is not taking credit risk for the investor.

Yes, the returns on these risk free investment­s will be much lower. But as the author states, "... you can't have it both ways: you cannot allow individual­s to take on more risk while retaining the absolute safety net ..."
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spriddler
04:14 PM on 11/30/2011
You can do exactly that. There is nothing wrong in concept in providing a floor beneath which returns and/or principle cannot fall. Insurance companies do just that all day long. The problem is you have to have a ceiling accompany that floor, and this plan has no ceiling.
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emmanuel kalu
information is knowledge, knowledge in power
12:01 PM on 11/30/2011
there is typical example of how a govt program should work in norway. when they discovered oil, they set up a program that would hold the proceeds from this oil. never to be used for govt, but for the people. that program is the most successful and it giving the people a good services.
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emmanuel kalu
information is knowledge, knowledge in power
11:49 AM on 11/30/2011
newt plan like all republican SS plan is backyard way of ending SS and looting the trust fund for wall street. it has being carefully targeted plan by republicans and wall street to find ways to take every benefit from the working person and send it to wall street to gamble. here is the problem, wall street gambles with the money, they protect themselve against loss and they also benefit from the gain. if the market goes up wall street and the individual make some money, however if it goes down, wall street makes money and the individual loses money. the republicans plan to take all benefit away from workers has being ongoing for decades. they have successfully remove pensions, saving accounts and now they are going after SS and medicare. our pension, were moved to 401k, huge windfall for wall street. our saving account move to money markets account, another huge gain for wall street. now their focus is on SS and medicare. privatizing SS would be the end of that program and would put millions of americans on the street. under cutting medicare for private profit insurance company would mean death to millions of americans. so basically what the republicans are slowly trying to do is return to this country to the 1700. it is up to the people to fight back and move this country forward.
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spriddler
01:49 PM on 11/30/2011
The Trust has already been looted, Treasury lent most of the surplus to other parts of the government who then spent it without any expectation of getting the money back other than through future revenue (taxes). The Trust is nothing more than our government's debt to the Dept. of Treasury. It is similar to the pension problem many states are in right now. Most all their plans should be solvent but they mismanaged the funds by not contributing on schedule and/or raiding the funds to support government spending.

There is no such thing as a right that costs money. Entitlement programs based on future revenue are nothing more than promises that our society either can or cannot afford to pay at any given point in time. Our ability to pay on those promises is largely affected by how fiscally responsible government is. Past performance certainly is not inspiring future confidence in that regard.

Programs based on assets do come with rights though. You have ownership of something. You can also insure that asset and/or insure that assets ability to generate income.
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nkurland
I'm going to leave this planet alive
11:23 AM on 11/30/2011
On the surface, the plan gives Gingrich the perfect political cover. After all, as he'll inevitably claim, its the mere counterpoint to the idea of a public option and besides, its just another choice. The reality, however, is completely different.

For one thing, Democratic party proposals for a public option were at best pilot programs, framed as market correctives to increase competition. Moreover, unlike their plans, which would be paid for with new revenues, Newt's plan calls for the diversion of existing payroll taxes into a private system. The goal, just as with his proposed private option for Medicare, is to simultaneously subsidize private retirement plans while simultaneously defunding the traditional versions of these two programs. When they inevitably go into the red, the GOP will use the opportunity to push for wholesale privatization.

Not only do private retirement plans charge exorbitant fees that can easily siphon off 40% of the total value of the investment when all is said and done, their gains and losses rise and fall with the market. If another financial crisis occurs, future retirees are left with absolutely nothing. In actuality, Gingrich is proposing a massive transfer of public wealth for the purpose of inflating one last bubble for Wall Street. A private option is a transparent ploy, and no one is falling for it.
04:04 PM on 11/30/2011
So let's take the proposal slightly farther. Personal accounts that are managed by the government (kinda like SS) and can only invest in US government bonds (kinda like SS). Are you okay with this? If not, then drop the rhetoric and say, Social Security is not a retirement account, it is welfare and come up with a plan to make it that, welfare.
11:15 AM on 11/30/2011
It's not just newt's idea; this is the core of trickle-down economics. You know, the philosophy that was going to make everyone rich?
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spriddler
10:41 AM on 11/30/2011
I would love to be able to send a piece of my contributions into an asset based account, but there are problems with this particular idea. Target date funds would need to be mandatory and if the government is going to act like an insurance company, it has to actually be one. If you insure someone's account with a floor (a minimum return), you have to also impose a ceiling (maximum return). There are ways to do that in a fiscally sound manner that would not require future revenue increases.

But the biggest problem is of course paying current beneficiaries while funds are diverted to the new accounts.
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emmanuel kalu
information is knowledge, knowledge in power
11:52 AM on 11/30/2011
do you really trust wall street to invest or manage your money proper. if you look back twenty years, wall street has had up and downs. the good times are not that great, compared to the bad time. this last financial crisises wiped trillions of dollars from saving account, wealth account and wages. we have a very good system, we just need some reform to adjust it to current times.
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spriddler
12:26 PM on 11/30/2011
We have a system that requires me to contribute 28.4% (12.4%ss / 16% 401(k) & Roth) of my income to save for a retirement that can replace my working income at age 67. The main assumptions there are that my ss benefit will remain where it is and that non-ss retirement savings will earn an average rate of return of 7%. I should have to save no more than 20% of my income to achieve my goal of replacement income. This year that extra 8.4% of my income comes out to about $5,400. I consider that to be a lot of money that is not contributing to either my quality of life or the economy. Multiply that effect across my working life and then by the many tens of millions of people around or above my income, and you have a huge societal impact of lost income and lost economic activity.
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spriddler
12:34 PM on 11/30/2011
I also do not see Wall Street as an entity. If "it" is anything, it is the enormously complex, chaotic in a mathematical sense, interplay of millions of different competing interests. Investing in a broadly diversified portfolio is investing in the economy at large. It gives an investor some share in the performance of that economy. Obviously risk comes with the territory. You can insure that risk as is done for millions of people with annuities. I would expect mandatory contributions, mandatory rebalancing, and mandatory annuitization to be part of any asset based plan. None of those things would ideally be necessary if everyone was a well educated, strongly disciplined and perfectly rational investor, but virtually no one (including myself) is.
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tampamurray
Raised Right
09:58 AM on 11/30/2011
I have a novel idea .... why doesn't the Government pay back (with a reasonable interest rate) all the money it's borrowed from Social Security over the last several decades? I suspect that would make the fund flush enough to meet its obligations to the retirees who paid into it for the past 45 years. As for future generations .... they should be fine as well so long as the Governments keeps its grubby little paws off the taxpayers' hard earned money.
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage against stupidity
10:57 AM on 11/30/2011
Please read the memo! Only Wall Streets contracts are binding - and it only works one way. All others can be unilaterally voided or nullified at the will of the Gov't or Wall Street. - leaving Main Street with no recourse.
03:42 PM on 11/30/2011
No, a Wall Street (or any other) contract between two parties (including the government) are binding, as enforcable by a court order. If the contract is found to be unconsitutional, then it can be voided. Social security is not a contract and never was, go read the fine print.
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emmanuel kalu
information is knowledge, knowledge in power
11:55 AM on 11/30/2011
that is what al gore tried to do. we need to cut defense, use that money to pay back SS. and make the govt keep their hands off it. SS would be able to pay 100% for a very long time if this happens. we can also guarantee that it continues to pay benefit if we increase the income taxed, and maybe give illegals a work permit for a period of time and made them pay SS taxes, which half could be used to shore up SS and half used to reduce our principal debt.
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tampamurray
Raised Right
02:03 PM on 11/30/2011
That'd be a great idea (using defense savings to pay back Social Security), however, I'll be willing to wager that whatever savings is gleaned from defense cuts will be used to meet welfare, food stamp, and unemployment benefits instead of paying back what's been stolen by the Government from Social Security.
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Robert Frank
My last name is FRANK so thats what I am..
09:54 AM on 11/30/2011
more stupidity from the republican idiots...lets do away with pesky regulations, lets privatize everything because the govt can't do anything (except the military because they waste money just fine) lets go back to the past because those were the good-old-days when things were simpler and white people were in charge and minorities had no rights..(except to work for chump-change in my factory/field)...lets keep women in their place and eliminate abortions because god told me so..lets put Christianity back where it belongs ...after all this nation was founded on it...people who are taking god out of our society are the cause of our downfall..gay people marrying will cause the country to self-destruct because everyone will want to get gay married....and they will yammer on about more anti-science, anti-social, anti-progress, anti-anything not chrisitian..blah blah blah stupid ignorant backward-thinking republicans..lets go back to the past to solve the complex problems of the present and future
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dennidus1680
10:09 AM on 11/30/2011
They simply want to get it out of people's heads that they paid for this and are entitled to it. Then they can dismantle it over time.
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emmanuel kalu
information is knowledge, knowledge in power
11:58 AM on 11/30/2011
i believe republicans have pretty much won that argument or debate. they have managed to make people call medicare and SS entitlement, instead of what they are actually are. we paid for all those programs. SS is a retirement account that we all pay into, we pay premium for our medicare and we all pay insurance premium for UI. it is time we begin to win the debate what this programs are actually are. we paid for all them.
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DARK STAR
One small step for Man...
09:53 AM on 11/30/2011
Great article, now combine this with Newt's other lately stated vision about child labor laws and making kids the school janitors, etc, how is this not being called out by the corporate media?

Oh yes, because it is the corporate media.
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage against stupidity
10:52 AM on 11/30/2011
By his own words Newt getspaid $65,000 for a 30 minute speech. He doesn't need money. So please cut his pension, health benefits, and other perks!!!!! This is a waste of our taxpayer money. He is profiting on what the taypayers have given him to market - his access to the lawmakers!
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thejazz
I'll burn that bridge when I come to it.
09:46 AM on 11/30/2011
So what is the purpose of privatizing SS? To give taxpayers a monetary toy to play with? You give money they have to invest, limit their options, and guaranty the results. It is financial masturbation, It may feel good, but you are still only playing with yourself.
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spriddler
11:32 AM on 11/30/2011
It is a lot more than that.

Absent a government funded retirement scheme, I would need to save 20% of my income throughout my working life to achieve replacement income at age 67 if I could earn 7% per year over the life of my investments. As it is with social security taking 12.4% of my income for a likely ROI of below 3%, I have to save over 16% of my income to get to my target retirement income. That is a total of 28.4% of my income going towards retirement when nothing above 20% should be necessary. For me, this year, that is about $5,400 that I have to unnecessarily part with. That is, to me at least, a lot of money. It is sacrificed quality of life throughout my entire working life, and it is missed economic activity as well.
09:02 AM on 11/30/2011
It's a good article in that it shows the downside of privatization, but unfortunately it continues to advance the frame that SS is a retirement plan. SS is an insurance program - not an IRA. I feel the more either side of the debate treat it as such, the sooner the interests that would like to privatize SS will have their wish...
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spriddler
12:56 PM on 11/30/2011
The retirement component of ss works like an annuity (insured investment). You promise to contribute a certain amount during your working life and in return you are promised a pay out. The main difference is that the government's pay out is atrocious compared to what you could get from an annuity in the private sector. That is because insurance companies invest their monies in actual assets expected to generate income rather than dispersing any extra monies to unrelated agencies that spend the money with no expectation of getting it back let alone getting it back with interest. Its a rotten deal that leaves our people (working & retired) with less money than they ought to have.
08:31 AM on 11/30/2011
This is the same idea that Ryan proposed and that Gingrich slammed and they call this guy smart and an idea man? Gimme a break. This was a stupid idea when Bush tried to do it and remains a stupid idea.
08:27 AM on 11/30/2011
We just did that but with wall street and the banks and it cost 16 trillion dollars and counting. Dumb idea from stupid men.