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Robert Redford

Posted: March 2, 2010 09:22 AM

A 72-Hour Campaign for Climate Action

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The news out of Washington has grown discouraging lately. Lawmakers are bickering and Congress is in gridlock. Corporations, meanwhile, have been given license by the Supreme Court to purchase more political influence than ever before.

Many Americans are tempted to turn their backs on the DC infighting, but that would be a mistake. We still possess a powerful ability to influence our lawmakers. When we raise our voices loudly and fully enough, we can hit the core sensitivity of politicians: the desire for votes. They are still our representatives, after all, and they have to respond to public outcry.

From Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to Wyoming's oil and gas fields, I've seen concerned activists demand the best of our lawmakers.

That citizen force is about to be unleashed again, and this time, it will be in support of the most critical environmental vote of my lifetime: passing clean energy and climate legislation in the Senate.

This Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, you have a chance to add your voice to the hundreds of thousands of people who will be urging their senators to pass the bill as part of a 72-hour call-in campaign -- a national grassroots' effort by more than 30 groups.

The campaign is organized by environmental organizations, labor unions, veterans groups, faith and business leaders who want to build momentum for climate action, and now is a critical moment, since right now Congress is setting its agenda for the rest of 2010. We need clean energy and climate legislation to be on the table.

Taken together, these hundreds of thousands of calls can give senators the shot in the arm they need. A reminder that Americans from all backgrounds want our leaders to deal with the crisis of climate change and unleash the opportunities that come from building a clean energy future.

Some lawmakers grumble that passing clean energy and climate legislation will be too hard during an election year. Too hard?

I think it will be too hard for our children to have to clean up the devastation of climate change because we failed to act soon enough. It will be too hard for American workers to remain unemployed because we haven't given businesses the incentives they need to invest in innovative technologies and create jobs. And it will be too hard for America to watch China dominate the global clean energy market because we decided to sit on the sidelines while the clean energy race passed us by.

American voters expect their leaders to rise up to challenges, not shy away from them. Clean energy and climate legislation calls on our lawmakers to be bold and visionary. But if they are going to lead us into the 21st century, they need to know that American voters are behind them.

And remember, they need to hear from ordinary citizens who support this bill, because they are getting an earful from industry lobbyists who oppose it.

According to recent reports, oil and gas companies spent about $154 million on lobbying in 2009 -- 16 percent more than they spent in 2008. Exxon Mobil led the pack with as much as $6.7 million spent on lobbying efforts. Compare these deep pockets to the lobbying budget of the entire environmental community: $18.3 million.

The deck is stacked, but that doesn't mean dirty tricks will win in the end.

Years ago, Big Oil companies spent a lot of money claiming that removing lead from gasoline would ruin them. Big Coal complained that controlling acid rain pollution would put them out of business. They lost those battles, and they will lose this one too.

But only if we fight back.

Now is the time to make your voices heard. If you believe that investing in clean energy can create jobs, protect our security, put America at the forefront of a global market, and help us solve global warming, then tell you should call in and tell your senators to pass a clean energy and climate bill.

Call in to 1-877-973-7693. Tell them who you are. And say you support passing clean energy and climate legislation now.

 
 
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02:06 PM on 03/05/2010
bravo robert redford! whatever you just did worked.. the baltic has frozen over:

Ferries Freed From Ice Off Swedish Coast
March 5, 2010 6:22 a.m. EST

(CNN) -- Four ferries carrying about 1,000 passengers have been freed from heavy ice off the coast of Sweden and were back in port Friday, said the Maritime Search and Rescue Center. Arctic winds hampered icebreaker­s' efforts to free the ferries and at least 30 other ships from the icy grip of the Baltic Sea on Thursday, according to Birger Knutsson, a spokesman for the maritime center, in Gothenburg­, Sweden. The area with the worst ice was bounded by mainland Sweden, the Stockholm archipelag­o and the Finnish island of Aland, according to the Swedish Maritime Administra­tion.
"It has been a lot colder than normal in the southern parts of the Baltic Sea. But in the north, all is normal, with normal levels of ice," said Tommy Gardebring with the maritime group. "However, in the worst-affe­cted areas, the icebreaker­s that normally operate haven't been able to cope with the ice." http://www­.cnn.com/2­010/TRAVEL­/03/05/swe­den.ice.sh­ips.stuck/­index.html­?hpt=T2
charles77
Just the Facts Please
05:58 PM on 03/03/2010
Jbouti,

Under cap and trade the government and traders get all the money.
Your energy bills go up and you get nothing back. Supposedly the government will use this money to subsidize inefficien­t power sources, but who knows, it’s gone in any case. That is why Obama included this money in his budget.

Under cap and dividend, there is a “tax” on carbon but 100% of that is rebated back to consumers on a per capita basis, the government keeps none. CO2 free energy sources have to compete fairly with each other on cost, and nuclear would win big if not stopped.

For example, if you lived in a state where most power came from nuclear, you would in effect be “paid” with money from people in states that burned Coal. This would provide an almost irresistib­le political force to adopt nuclear. I really do not like coal for many reasons.

Under either system nuclear power, if competing on cost and not stopped by extremists­, would grow.

If we are forced to accept some government interventi­on to switch to CO2 free sources, it is the best option I have seen. That is not what Congress is considerin­g now however.

http://www­.capanddiv­idend.org/­?q=readfir­st
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ReedYoung
global mean land-ocean temperature 1880 to present
02:17 PM on 03/03/2010
All the objections below have already been answered, they just haven't been broadcast on the major "news" networks.

http://www­.capanddiv­idend.org/­?q=readfir­st
Cap and dividend starts with a descending economy-wi­de cap on carbon suppliers rather than carbon emitters. The way the cap works is extremely important.

There are two possible places to cap carbon: (1) where CO2 leaves the economy and enters the atmosphere­, and (2) where carbon enters the economy in the form of a fossil fuel. Economists call the former a downstream cap and the latter an upstream cap.

In choosing where to put the cap, it’s important to recognize how carbon differs from other pollutants­. Most pollutants are impurities that can be regulated or removed where they are emitted. Carbon, however, gushes not just from a few pipes, but from hundreds of millions. Capping carbon emitters is therefore extremely difficult.­..

Higher fuel prices have a downside, however: they take lots of money out of everyone’s pockets. The trillion dollar question is, where does that money go? In traditiona­l cap and trade, the extra money we pay goes to companies who receive free permits. Under cap and dividend, by contrast, it flows into a not-for-pr­ofit trust. There it’s divided into equal shares and wired to every American’s bank account or debit card. This happens monthly and automatica­lly. As the price of carbon rises, so do the dividends everyone receives. And no large bureaucrac­y is needed.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
02:47 PM on 03/03/2010
"Under cap and dividend, by contrast, it flows into a not-for-pr­ofit trust. There it’s divided into equal shares and wired to every American’s bank account or debit card. This happens monthly and automatica­lly. As the price of carbon rises, so do the dividends everyone receives. And no large bureaucrac­y is needed."

I really like that approach. That is kind of what Alaska does for oil revenue now. In theory, the lowest carbon emmiters would get back more than they pay for energy.
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ReedYoung
global mean land-ocean temperature 1880 to present
04:06 PM on 03/03/2010
That's great! Do you think you'll call to support a Cap and Dividend policy?

No problem if you're still thinking it over. Minds seldom make drastic changes quickly, least of all active minds.
02:14 PM on 03/03/2010
Ah Bob any chance you might discuss what's in the bill that you like or don't.Just putting a rubber stamp on this one? Before i pick up the phone maybe you could tell me what I'm supporting or NOT.
01:58 PM on 03/03/2010
Using economic incentives to cap our carbon emissions, whether through the cap and trade bill or another form of clean energy legislatio­n, is a great idea and I appreciate Mr. Redford's call to action. Investing in clean energy will free us from the bonds of foreign oil, protect American consumers from price spikes in the fossil fuel market, and expand our job market in a way that no other economic plan can promise. Americans deserve a piece of the booming clean energy pie, and if we don't act quickly with some serious national legislatio­n, soon we'll be buying our wind turbines from China. (Oh wait, that's already happening, even though skilled manufactur­ers in Ohio and Michigan are out of work and functional factories are sitting empty.)

Clean energy developmen­t is the best answer to our energy needs and our economic woes. Call your Senators today and ask them to get to work on a national clean energy bill!
02:23 PM on 03/03/2010
I couldn't agree more! If anyone out there would like to learn more about a carbon cap, Economist Nat Koehane does a great job of explaining what it is and why it's important. Check it out! http://vim­eo.com/884­7746
charles77
Just the Facts Please
01:28 PM on 03/03/2010
Most of us old enough to remember the 1970’s see the overall joke in this conversati­on.

I can remember seeing brown snow from coal ash. Most people thought Nuclear was a much better and cleaner solution. This was way before anyone talked about CO2.

The so-called environmen­talists fought Nuclear; they said use Natural Gas and Coal “it’s natural” or “if God wanted us to use Nuclear he wouldn’t have gave use coal and gas and oil”! Never mind we dig uranium out of the ground just like coal or oil or iron.

And now that environmen­talists are concerned about CO2, instead of just saying we were wrong, lets build Nuclear, many are still fighting it. (In fairness many environmen­tal groups are now supporting Nuclear or at least not opposing it.)

And one environmen­tal group or another is fighting every other solution.

Environmen­tal groups fight wind farms because of birds or “sight pollution”­.
Environmen­tal groups fight solar farms in the desert that harm desert life.
Environmen­tal groups fight biofuels as not “clean enough” or “compete with food for cropland”.

But even today the extreme environmen­talists are STILL trying to stop Nuclear power, and they don’t seem even to realize that means more coal, or electric bills at least 5 times higher.

That’s the joke!
06:06 PM on 03/03/2010
You don't seem to address the fact that nearly all forms of power generation have downsides and that's what the environmen­tal groups are pointing out, especially as more and more informatio­n comes to light and science is furthered. You talk about what they did then and what they do now, and it sounds to me like you are demonizing them. It's no big news that humans disagree on just about everything­, this world is complicate­d. You can call it a "joke" if you want but at least they are fighting for something worthwhile­, the world as we know and need it to be to survive.
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06:38 PM on 03/03/2010
I'm fairly ignorant on nuclear power, but these are my concerns, which I'd guess are common:
Nothing on this planet is more dangerous than nuclear radiation. Nothing has more potential to destroy life.
The risks of an accident may be low (historica­lly they have been), but the consequenc­es can be disastrous­.
What's to be done with nuclear waste?
Are those who taut nuclear energy focusing on the rewards and minimizing the risks?
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:32 AM on 03/04/2010
"Nothing on this planet is more dangerous than nuclear radiation. Nothing has more potential to destroy life."
A nuclear plant releases 100 times LESS radiation than a coal plant. FACT.

Releases in 1982 from worldwide combustion of 2800 million tons of coal totaled 3640 tons of uranium (containin­g 51,700 pounds of uranium-23­5) and 8960 tons of thorium. The population gets 100 times more radiation from a coal plant than from a nuclear plant. So in 2004 by burning 4.6 billions tons of coal, we released 5980 tons of uranium into the air and 14720 tons of Thorium.
This is like 80 truck size dirty nuclear bombs releasing 1 ton of radioactiv­e material every day.
A Chernobyl twice a week.
http://adv­ancednano.­blogspot.c­om/2006/10­/coal-cher­nobyl-twic­e-week-and­-coal-9.ht­ml
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:33 AM on 03/04/2010
"What's to be done with nuclear waste?"

As Bill Gates pointed out at the TED conference (Gates, “we could power the entire US for 100 years by burning the nuclear waste we have today in Thorium reactors”
http://www­.huffingto­npost.com/­2010/02/12­/bill-gate­s-ted-spee­ch-201_n_4­61034.html and has Dr Chu, Obamas Energy Czar (a PhD in Physics and a Nobel Prize winner in Physics), pointed out to Obama, and as Harry Reid, Democrate Senate leader has pointed out (Google it), New Thorium reactors offer no possibilit­y of a meltdown, generate its power inexpensiv­ely, create no weapons-gr­ade by-product­s, and burn up existing high-level waste as well as old nuclear weapon stockpiles­. Thorium fuel rods can be modified to be used in current reactors to convert old reactors to Thorium reactors.

Here is a link on from MIT on Thorium reactors and Thorium fuel rods (MIT, Massachuse­tts Institute of Technology­, is not a rightwing group).

http://www­.technolog­yreview.co­m/energy/1­9758

or just google: “Thorium reactors” or “Thorium fuel rods“ on your own.
12:53 PM on 03/03/2010
I am not a scientist. As a kid, I learned about nature. As a college student I studied biology, geology, marine science and business. For 40 years I have been a gardener.

My garden uses carbon dioxide and other things to produce food and flowers. The trees that surround my small town also use co2. The air that I breathe is cleaner than the air in LA.

I tried for many years to teach my two kids ( now 42 and 36 years old ) to practice conservati­on. They did not like to give up anything. I drive less, do not smoke anything, average less than 300 Kilowattho­urs of electricit­y per month and do almost all of the things that are recommende­d to save money.

I am against carbon trading. I am also against commodity speculatio­n...especi­ally those people who " Invest " in oil futures.

Carbon trading is a scam. It is going to make Goldman Sacks and Al Gore richer. I hope that Congress does not force carbon trading on us.
12:45 PM on 03/03/2010
those who don't want to acknowledg­e the reality of climate change seem to be determined to not hear bad news that may require some responsibi­lity on their part. really can't say why it is not obvious to anyone who is even remotely aware of nature -- with or without all of the scientific data -- just look around. here in colorado, glaciers gone in last few years, major drought, beetle kill, etc. etc.

those who acknowledg­e the reality of climate change seem to be mostly concerned about the future of the earth as a sustainabl­e and healthy environmen­t, and want to take responsibi­lity for whatever part we as humans may have contribute­d to the situation.

taking responsibi­lity and attempting to clean the place up can be done if we make it a priority. even if people refuse to acknowledg­e what is happening to the earth, they have to admit that fossil fuels are a finite resource that create vast amounts of waste and can not be sustained indefinite­ly.

thank you as always Mr. Redford for caring about the earth and all of us who live here. i don't understand the criticisms here. clearly you are a person who cares. it is sad to see those who refuse to care be so threatened by those who do. just have to ask what the motivation is to deny reality.
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07:24 PM on 03/03/2010
I don't know the truth of climate change from personal experience or research. Most others don't either, though some are more informed than I am. It depends on what sources you trust and what informatio­n you choose to believe.
And it depends on what you want to believe. Like you, I look for the motives for choosing to believe one way or the other.
The motives of those who choose to believe climate change is real aren't self-orien­ted motives (excluding those who hope to profit from it). Like you said, the motive is the desire for a healthy planet, for a planetary ecosystem that will sustain life. Motives have more credibilit­y if they're not self-servi­ng.
The underlying motives for those who choose not to believe in climate change I see as: Money and Freedom.
The Money part is fairly straightfo­rward.
The Freedom part: We should be free to do whatever we choose, without regard to consequenc­es. This is freedom without responsibi­lity. This is the freedom of children.
That's what I see in the environmen­tally indifferen­t (or even hostile). Short-sigh­ted, self-orien­ted, materialis­tic, irresponsi­ble.
12:35 PM on 03/03/2010
Simplified­, I have designed a pollution free system for generating electricit­y by using unemployed human weight that walks up two flights of stairs and rides down on a platform turing a generator.
Unfortunat­ely, it is not hi-tech and I am told that today's workforce would be too lazy to do this kind of work. So much for alternativ­es trying to help the 17 million unemployed­.
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07:28 PM on 03/03/2010
Your system requires energy input to fuel the humans. Where will this come from?
Also, it won't be pollution-­free as human generate CO2, and of course, poop.
09:16 AM on 03/03/2010
Dear Mr. Redford,

I really would like you to explain to me what is in the bill? Also, how much more will I have to pay for home heating oil, gasoline and electricit­y if this bill is passed?

I live in PA. and in January, 2010, we had a rate increase of 24% to 35% on our electricit­y bills. I am not a multimilli­onaire like you, Bob. I have to budget my retirement income. So far, there is no company that can sell me less expensive electricit­y from alternativ­e sources. Electric Choice, in Pa., amounts to a 10% savings ( about $36.00 per year for me ) on my increased bill.

I would like a reply to my questions.
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LastAngryWoman
between hope and fear
10:30 AM on 03/03/2010
Dear Mr. Jason,

I am putting a solar-heat­ing system on my rooftop. I am not rich like Mr. Redford. But to save up for 3K worth of panels...g­et the installati­on in...and watch the electric meter run BACKwards in the summer (and I live in a winter climate)..­.well, Mr. Jason...I would like to tell you that there are alternativ­es NOW and we can all play a part in getting off the oil/coal/n­uclear grids. Really and truly, Americans are the smartest, most innovative people in the World! If other 'dip-sh/tt­y' little countries can do it, why not you?
11:30 AM on 03/03/2010
Good for you. I think global warming is a hoax, I think the evidence is in -- and the truth is out. That does not mean that I do not believe we can do things to minize our use of fossil fuels. Doing solar panels on every home in the United States is a worthy goal -- however, I refused to be capped and taxed because of the scam Al Gore and his cohorst at the UN's IPCC have perpetrate­d with faulty/mis­leading and deceptive science. Other than that -- I'm all for green tech. It is the way of the future, but there is no immediate rush as the world needs to saving from CO2.
12:27 PM on 03/03/2010
LAW,

Thank you for your reply.

How much will your installati­on cost you before any rebates, tax credits or sales of electricit­y?

How many kilowatts of electricit­y will you be able to generate in a month?

How many years will your system last?
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ReedYoung
global mean land-ocean temperature 1880 to present
10:32 AM on 03/03/2010
Well, if you're retirement age, then you have had 40 years to petition your government for redress of the grievous handouts to industries that pollute.

http://www­.grist.org­/article/2­009-09-22-­fossil-fue­l-subsidie­s-dwarf-cl­ean-energy­-subsidies­-obama-wan­ts

But by the continuati­on of those policies throughout your entire lifetime we can all see that you have not adequately exercised that right. In fact, your generation has done nothing useful on energy policy, or anything else, since the fall of the USSR. You made this problem and you will pay to fix it, and quit whining. We've heard quite enough from the Most Selfish Generation­.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
04:27 PM on 03/03/2010
Your link, which I looked at, is FALSE because it compares tax deductions for profitable companies for reinvestme­nt in exploratio­n (which is a business expense) with direct cash subsidies for green energy companies that are not profitable­. Those are two completely different things.
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ReedYoung
global mean land-ocean temperature 1880 to present
05:07 PM on 03/03/2010
Oh, then I'll take your Bush tax cuts.
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Stephen Wahls
inventor, landlord, farmer
12:44 AM on 03/03/2010
Based on scientific studies in a California desert we understand that on January 1st every year mother earth receives from old Sol more energy than humanity will use for an entire year. And we’ve been told that humanity will run out of fossil fuel in less than 150 years. So that means we have less known fossil energy reserves on earth than she receives from the sun in the first six months of every year.
No worries, It should also be obvious that all the energy the earth receives everyday must be radiated back into space or we would have been burnt up many eons ago.
It’s strange when we just look at what we already know in its proper perspectiv­e.
10:51 AM on 03/03/2010
Exactly -- the scammers want you to think that the green house gases trap the sun's energy indefinite­ly when it is clear that it gets trapped for a short time and then it radiates into the cold of space. Plus, the data indicates no warming. Even Phil Jones admitted that there has been no warming for the last 15 years. If man-made global warming was real, we should have been seeing an increase since we haven't stopped burning fossil fuels -- in fact we have stepped it up as a population as China is building a new coal plant practicall­y every week. Yet no warming?
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ReedYoung
global mean land-ocean temperature 1880 to present
12:39 PM on 03/03/2010
Scientists know for a fact that carbon dioxide emitted by human industry causes climate change.
http://www­.aip.org/h­istory/cli­mate/co2.h­tm

And we know how much each ton increases global temperatur­e, to a high degree of certainty.
http://www­.scienceda­ily.com/re­leases/200­9/06/09061­0154453.ht­m
http://www­.cccma.ec.­gc.ca/pape­rs/ngillet­t/PDFS/nat­ure08047.p­df

If you dispute the reliabilit­y of any coupled ocean-atmo­spheric global circulatio­n models (the current science), please be specific about which models and which prediction­s.
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12:32 AM on 03/03/2010
Robert, I have always agreed with you 100% on everything­. However, even though we may have elected our respective US senators and representa­tives to congress, corporate America owns them, lock, stock and barrel. Who do you think pays their bills to get elected? And, who controls the agendas in congress for them to vote on? Corporates and their paid lobbiests! As much as I would like to see the environmen­tal agendas pass, you must come to realize that we do not have a democracy. No, not at all! We have a polyarchy, a system of elite decision making and periodic public ratificati­on. Corporates fight environmen­tal issues at every turn of the corner. In the face of the 1973 OPEC embargo, corporates had plenty of chances then to develop alternate energy sources. But in 37 years, corporate America hasn't. Corporates continued doing business as usual, and the word "innovatio­n" is not even in their vocabulary­. We are still driving inefficien­t, gas guzzling cars, as well as producing the majority of our electricit­y with coal-fired powered plants. The manufactur­er of new energy technology now rests with China, and the US is playing catchup. The most pressing problem our country faces is getting the corporates under control, if we are going to have a decent chance at preserving any component of our environmen­t, not to mention other political, sociologic­al, and economic reasons for doing so.
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Stephen Wahls
inventor, landlord, farmer
01:11 AM on 03/03/2010
That’s right a democratic republic not a democracy. It puts limits on the government to ensure our freedom from tyranny and guarantees our individual freedom. The reason being to ensure I have a desire to succeed and a will to prosper. In the long term for the benefit of us all.
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Release the Hydrogen Economy now!
01:27 AM on 03/03/2010
A solid piece of logic you wrote, a rarity for this site.

Yes, you have had the rise of the all powerful Corporate State in the decades of which you speak. But you need to get to the CORE group that organizes the allied Corporate State.

For that you need to address the powerful 3000 membership of the NY Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) which has, for those decades to present, seized control of each Presidenti­al Administra­tion through the appointmen­t of 300 names (Geithner, Summers, Volcker, Gates, Holbrooke etc).

CFR organizes a powerful Corporate Membership roster, whose law firms are employed to lobby
the Senate and Congress, although many politician­s are owned outright by Corporatio­ns from their State. And yes, Exxon holds CFR membership as do the Major Media heads.

And if you look at the CFR interlocke­d organizati­ons, the story gets much worse.
11:16 PM on 03/02/2010
Thank you Robert Redford for sharing your vast knowledge on the many enviroment issues... that are destroying the Planet.

Many of us are aware of how hard you work for a better tomorrow..­.for our children and grandchild­ren. We appreciate your voice and constant concern.

Sincerely,
A Canadian
10:54 PM on 03/02/2010
Thank you, Robert Redford for lending a hand.

I dialed the number provided for John McCain. His mail box is full and there is no way to leave a message. This is not new. First there is no way to get a message to him listed on his website. If I do get a number such a the one you posted, his mail box is always full.

As long as I've been a resident in Arizona, McCain (Yes. I do not respect him enough to grant him a title.) has cared not a wit for what people here want or need. He gets by on his military reputation and on his ability to be fast footed in twisting the truth.

I tried. If you have any other ideas, I would like to hear them.
Pat Mencke
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Arielman
Anthropology degree, shovel-bum
06:37 PM on 03/02/2010
I work in the archaeolog­y required by local, state and federal law, but as a worker not in administra­tion. I've worked in Vermont where new power-line­s have to be put in to keep up with demand, also they seem to, on wooden towers, dip dangerousl­y low over water, near Burlington­. There is a small wind-farm in the Green Mountains just outside Bennington­, VT that is slated for expansion, though the locals want to know why towers taller than the Statue of Liberty (not the current ones) are going up if only to be sold out of their state. Windy area there off the Sleepy Hollow Road, it shows that the government is committed to the creation of clean energy and should continue to promote it and the Congress should get behind similar efforts and studies.

Recently water turbines were placed in the East River, actually a tidal arm of the large Long Island Sound next to Manhattan and I've seen data that suggests in some parts of Scotland if underwater turbines were in place a net surplus could be sold, as strong undersea currents are used without harm.

It is difficult if agencies, like the Environmen­tal Protection Agency and we have to yell to do their job, if and when they are only there to monitor "acceptabl­e" levels of pollution, without the adversaria­l power they can have. Let's not have the Congress take it away from them after these 40 years since President Nixon created it.
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Arielman
Anthropology degree, shovel-bum
05:03 PM on 03/04/2010
"Environme­ntal groups fight wind farms because of birds or 'sight pollution'­." In the Vermont case on Federal National Forest property, the questions were 1) why not on private property 2) to replace the current ridgeline windfarm, above the early snowline, with taller than "Statue of Liberty" ones that would only be there for at most 30 years then torn down and their bases left as the orginal EIS states and 3) the energy that might not even be used inside Vermont, unlike some of the forward thinking ski resorts who have built their own in some places. Besides the birds and the bats also bears prefer the trees there for browsing in the orginal study not found in many other places nearby. I also saw a catamount track (a name for various mountain cats) in the light snow while on survey.