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A Good Fight

Posted: 09/19/11 06:52 PM ET

So the really big fight -- perhaps the defining battle of 2012 -- won't be over Medicare. It won't even be over Obama's jobs program.

It will be over whether the rich should pay more taxes.

The president has vowed to veto any plan to tame the debt that doesn't increase taxes on the rich. The Republicans have vowed to oppose any tax increases on the rich.

It's a good fight to have.

In a Rose Garden ceremony this morning, Obama proposed new taxes on the wealthy -- including a special new tax for millionaires, the closing of loopholes and deductions for people making more than $250,000 a year, and an end to the portion of the Bush tax cut going to higher incomes.

Republicans accuse the president of instigating "class warfare." But it's not warfare to demand the rich pay their fair share of taxes to bring down America's long-term debt.

After all, the richest 1 percent of Americans now takes home more than 20 percent of total income. That's the highest share going to the top 1 percent in almost 90 years.

And they now pay at the lowest tax rates in half a century -- half the rate they paid on ordinary income prior to 1981.

(Unfortunately, the President isn't proposing to raise the capital-gains tax -- which, now at 15 percent, creates a loophole large enough for the super-rich to drive their Ferrari's through. About 80 percent of the income of America's richest 400 comes in the form of capital gains. Here's where billionaire hedge-fund and private-equity fund managers make out like bandits. As I've noted, I also wish he aimed higher -- for more brackets and higher rates at the very top. But at least he's drawn a line in the sand. The veto message is clear.)

Anyone who says the American economy suffers when the rich pay more in taxes doesn't know history. We grew faster the first three decades after World War II than we have since.

Trickle-down economics has been a cruel joke.

On the other hand -- given projected budget deficits -- if the rich don't pay their fair share, the rest of us will have to bear more of a burden. And that burden inevitably will come in the form of either higher taxes or fewer public services.

If anyone's declared class warfare it's the people who inhabit the top rungs of big corporations and Wall Street (and who comprise a disproportionate number of America's super rich). They've declared it on average workers.

The ratio of corporate profits to wages is higher than it's been since before the Great Depression. And even as corporate salaries and perks keep rising, the median wage keeping dropping, and jobs continue to be shed.

You've got the chairman of Merck taking home $17.9 million last year. This year Merck announces plans to boot 13,000 workers. The CEO of Bank of America takes in $10 million, and the bank announces it's firing 30,000 workers.

Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the way I see it we've got a huge budget deficit and a giant jobs problem. And under these circumstances it seems to me people at the top who have never had it so good should sacrifice a bit more, so the rest of us don't have to sacrifice quite as much.

According to the polls, most Americans agree.

Robert Reich is the author of Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future, now in bookstores. This post originally appeared at RobertReich.org.

 
 
 

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outnow
Ban the bomb
05:23 PM on 09/20/2011
The big savers will take the savings of the little savers. This is called the "decent from heaven." Crops have been diverted away from food into fuel. There is flooding and drought making shortages worse.

Water wars with cities vs. crops vs. water for processing oil out of shale. Food is made out of water and soil. Weather changes reduce crop yields. America's economy depends on food exports. That has covered the cost of importing goods and borrowing.

Obama has more deregulators everywhere. His own party cannot stop him.

Economist and Professor Micheal Hudson calls it a "lost decade." 13 trillion in bailouts has not trickled down. 70 is consumer spending. Obama should have renegotiated the real estate loans by reducing principal to market. The debt overhead is creating a permanent depression. The crash wiped out debts and savings but this time, the people were taxed to bail out the banks.

The economy will shrink in "debt deflation." People earn an income and buy goods and services AFTER paying their debt on mortgage and loans. When the banks get money, they don't buy goods and services. They lend it out or invest it. More and more goes to the financial sector.

B of A is a Rico. Holder will not prosecute.
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BeerLover
Carpe Diem!
11:14 AM on 09/21/2011
No one will prosecute anything...... we are now a society where white collar crime is ok... as long as you have a lawyer.
03:14 PM on 09/20/2011
The big problem with Prof. Reich's article is the opening assertion that "the defining battle of 2012..will be over whether the rich should pay more taxes". The battle will actually be about economic growth and unemployment. And the more President Obama focuses instead on taxing the rich, the more independent voters will tune him out.
09:06 PM on 09/21/2011
As if anything draconian is proposed - these proposals are so modest as to be embarrassing. But you are correct in one sense.. there are workers and independent voters who object to the rich paying more in taxes. One senses FOX News is in the background all the time or they mistake themselves for the rich, or perhaps think they will be rich one day and don't want to be taxed to much in that event. Well, all I have to say to such people, is 'this Bud's for you.'
02:55 PM on 09/20/2011
"We grew faster the first three decades after World War II than we have since..." Well, of course, as the only major industrial power left standing after WW II what would expect?

True to form, the Tax and Spend Party is living up to its name once again...might I add going to extremes never before seen. Madness.
03:34 PM on 09/20/2011
An interesting study about misconceptions and correct information, "When Corrections Fail: The persistence of political misperceptions" by Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler.

A quote from the report:

"... ideological subgroups failed to update their beliefs when presented with corrective information that runs counter to their predispositions. Indeed, in several cases, we find that corrections actually strengthened misperceptions among the most strongly committed subjects."

Faith based politics is the norm because thinking is hard.

When Republicans still believe the biggest lie of all, that they are the party of small government, how can you expect to disabuse them of all the other lies they believe in?

If the facts are telling us something that is in conflict with our beliefs, perhaps you need to adjust your beliefs.

An intelligent citizen will, a Republican will not

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

Debt to GDP from beginning to end of administration.

+0.1% Nixon/Ford
-3.2% Jimmy Carter
+20.5% Ronald Reagan
+13.1% George H. W. Bush
-8.8% Bill Clinton
+28.6% George W. Bush
05:29 PM on 09/20/2011
Oh please with this silliness. First, I dislike the Republican party almost as much as I dislike the Democrats. Republicans are big spenders too...on wars, defense, etc. The difference with Democrats is that they believe they have a right to the money you earn, and they see nothing wrong with taking vast sums of an individual's earnings. Please don't to try to make the case that the Dems have ever been fiscally responsible when their primary goal in office is to get more revenue and spend more revenue. The massive entitlement programs they started, the income security programs, all well intensioned (http://www.usdebtclock.org/), are out of control and bankrupting the nation.
03:49 PM on 09/20/2011
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/28/richard_wolff_debt_showdown_is_political

If you look at what happened to the American budget over the last 20 or 30 years, the culprit is obvious. We have dropped corporate taxes. We have dropped taxes on the rich.

If you go back to the 1940s, here’s what you discover, that the federal government got 50 percent more money year after year from corporations than it did from individuals.

For every dollar that individuals paid in income tax, corporations paid $1.50. If you compare that to today, here are the numbers.

For every dollar that individuals pay to the federal government, corporations pay 25 cents.

That is a dramatic change that has no parallel in the rest of our tax code.

What’s the alternative? Well, we don’t have to look far. Roosevelt, in the 1930s, the last time we faced this kind of situation, went on the radio in 1933 and 1934, and he gave speeches. And in those speeches, he said the following: if the private sector either cannot or will not provide work for millions of our citizens, ready, able and willing to work, then the government has to do it. And between 1934 and 1941, the federal government created and filled 11 million jobs.
02:31 PM on 09/20/2011
This is not class warfare. This is middle class self-defense.
02:30 PM on 09/20/2011
Let's talk Lightsquared and Solyndra and how the government is screwing the "folks".
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lrobb
Southern Rational
03:03 PM on 09/20/2011
However, lets talk about how I was able to install a solar electric hot water heater in San Diego in 1986 with a credit equaling 85% of the cost. My daughter, who now lives in the house, says the system is still working just fine.

This was a quarter century ago. Don't you think we might have improved at least something in the last generation?
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ClarcKing
Citizen
02:11 PM on 09/20/2011
It is insanity to ignore the disintegration of the world monetary financial system. I am perplexed that the President's plan to veto budget cuts if taxes are not increased, is not being assessed for its total lack of rationale. It seems the nation is being given only one choice; economic and population contraction, in an orderly fashion of course.

Taxing the rich, if that is really the plan, should save and expand Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, not cut them up. Enacting a tax on capital gains, stock, commodity and derivative trade would create a tax revenue bonanza. All proposals regarding the budget / jobs plan are specious, furthering the economic collapse via mind mangling offensive against the US population; since the origin of our crisis, the bailouts, the monetary financial system, are not addressed and our economy continues to be pillaged.

This President, this fascist Super Congress, can not be supported. There is no economic recovery while the Administration, the Congress, the Fed, et al, are operating to perpetuate the monetary financial system while exposing the population to the continued destruction of the national economy.

Stop the bailouts, recover the bailout trillions, implement the Glass-Steagall standard in US banking, cancelling all obligations to the Inter Alpha Group of Banks, the Wall St. cabal. Create the US national bank that funds the 50 states, then fund the necessary facilities that enhance the population's physical economy. Stop Perpetual War, or economic recovery is impossible. No other options exist.
02:26 PM on 09/20/2011
Agree, good post.
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ClarcKing
Citizen
03:07 PM on 09/20/2011
We must come around to the revolutionary physical principle that the US government, of the people, for the people and by the people, by its design and intention, is to protect the population. The very financial entities that are demanding unlimited US financial resources for the purposes of saving and perpetuating the usurious monetary financial system, at the expense of the population, must be condemned, indicted and competently prosecuted. for more info on the economy and the international situation go to the larouchepac web site.
02:05 PM on 09/20/2011
What we are seeing is that Wall Street loves job firings. If you sales and earnings are down a little and you don't want your stock price to suffer, announce a mass termination. You are the King then according to the Wall Street gurus. And since you were so smart to come up with the firings the Board will up your compensation.

Of course, its often poor decision making and a desire for the short term profits by the same King that caused the eventual soft sales and profits.

Do you really think it was a $40K clerical worker at B of A that said, yes lets give a bunch of mortgage loans out to people who won't be able to repay them.
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Protocolor
Have maths, will travel.
02:30 PM on 09/20/2011
Hey, when the going gets rough, the rough... well... they cut off their own arm and eat it. Autocannibalism; makes sense in real life so why not in business too?
01:57 PM on 09/20/2011
another great informative article. guess we know why republicans want to destroy the schools ,,, more people might learn how to do math and start to understand our tax system.
01:53 PM on 09/20/2011
"The richest 1% of Americans take home 20% of the total income" - you left our one important number. That 1% makes 20% of the income, but pays 40% of all income taxes. Also 50% of Americans pay no federal income taxes at all. Where is their fair share?
iridium53
Semper Fi
08:20 PM on 09/20/2011
One more time.

Income taxes are just one form of taxes.
Choosing to focus on just one form of tax is, at best, cynical and deceitful

Basic tax fairness is that people making the same level of income should pay the same rate of taxes.

It turns out that poor people pay a higher rate of taxes on their total income than do rich people.
They pay payroll taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

In comparison, speculators (financial gamblers) only pay 3/7ths what a working person pays.

Furthermore, corporations and individuals making millions get all sorts of tax expenditures (givebacks) to enhance their lives (like freebies on corporate jets).

Fair share? Really?
01:42 PM on 09/20/2011
Having listened to this tax issue over and over, its become clear that the only possible solution is a flat tax. That's not something I'm jumping for joy over, but it is something that if done "right" could at least improve the equity in our tax system. The modest proposal is to tax ALL income: capital gains, dividens, ordinary income, etc. Its simple: income is income. Next eliminate ALL deductions, yes the home mortgage along with all the rest. No picking winners and losers. And finally allow a single deduction for each tax payer and their dependents and make it a whopper - like $30k per person. A family of 4 would then have the first $120K of income exempt, while the CEO of BoA would pay the flat tax rate on essentially the whole echilada including his stock options! The flat tax rate would be set such that goverment could balance its budgets (eventually) probably something around 20-25%. I fail to see how the repubs can argue against this, but then again, I'm naive.
01:38 PM on 09/20/2011
In the theoretical world, we could all start over with the same amount of wealth -- as if the Mayflower just landed here. The most valuable thing would be survival, and we would not want to survive at the expense of someone else's demise. We would work together for our mutual benefit.

Obviously, at this point, most of us have more than we need to survive, but some of us have lost a good bit of what we had and are in danger of losing more of it. We are protective of our wealth because we made some effort to acquire it, and in many cases we worked at jobs and in conditions that were sacrificial in order to provide for our families and our futures. We did not gamble on Wall Street or sell them mortgages they couldn't afford. Then our government took money and gave it to the wealthiest so that they would not have to suffer the consequences of their unbridled greed.

Therefore, we now think that it is time that the wealthiest who were spared by government intervention step up and put some more money into the system so that the government can spend it on things that benefit all of us.
01:49 PM on 09/20/2011
Are you aware that the "money given to the rich" was paid back in full with interest. The "gift" was a "loan".
01:58 PM on 09/20/2011
The system was kept from collapsing to the personal benefit of a small number of the rich. The fact that the corporations may have paid it back is irrelevant to the the point that the needs of the rich were addressed such that they retained their wealth, while the ordinary folk who worked for these corporations were let go.
02:15 PM on 09/20/2011
Keeping the system going by bailing out the corporations protected the weath of the rich, but the rich did not pay the money back, the corporation may have paid it back, but it was the labor of those who were left in their jobs with an ax hanging over them who did the labor that enabled the corporation to pay it back. In sheer gratitude for the system that is supported by the government, the rich should be giving it money so that it can do the kind of projects the rich never undertake individually, but that the government does to improve life for all of us.
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lrobb
Southern Rational
01:52 PM on 09/20/2011
Dear, if you really think everyone on the Mayflower started out even, you haven't studied history. The economic gambit ran from Gov. Bradford who had both corporate and family backing to those who signed on with the equivalent of indenture documents just to get out of Europe.

The one thing which united this incredibly disparate group of people was their religious belief. Never, ever discount private faith as a political motivation.
02:27 PM on 09/20/2011
What was Governor Bradford's wealth worth in the New World? Could he stop at the store to stock up with more stuff than the others so that he wouldn't go hungry when the others did?
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01:22 PM on 09/20/2011
" And under these circumstances it seems to me people at the top who have never had it so good should sacrifice a bit more, so the rest of us don't have to sacrifice quite as much."

Note he said sacrifice more, I thought his whole argument was " fair share ".
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01:19 PM on 09/20/2011
Facts are according to the IRS: The top 1% of taxpayers earn 19% of income and pay 37% of the income tax. The bottom 50% earn 13% of income and pay 3% of the income tax. Who is not paying their fair share?
01:45 PM on 09/20/2011
A stunning statistic. Imagine the that a mere 1% of the taxpayers earn 146% of what the entire bottom 50% of taxpayers earn. Do they work 146% harder?
02:00 PM on 09/20/2011
So 1% of the population makes 6% more money than all of the lowest 50% of the population put together. Do you believe they work that much harder or are that much smarter? Maybe the system favors them...
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Protocolor
Have maths, will travel.
02:23 PM on 09/20/2011
Yeah! That "The CEO of Bank of America takes in $10 million" that Reich mentioned... he's worth more to America than any 200 cops, or teachers, or nurses, or firefighters, or...

Well, he sorta sucks at his job, actually, and isn't worth one firefighter, or one teacher, or one fry cook, for that matter.
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02:40 PM on 09/20/2011
Maybe the system does favor them. Why don't you get in this so-called system instead of trying to steal someone else's money?
01:18 PM on 09/20/2011
We are in urgent need of more taxes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzspsovNvII&feature=related
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01:17 PM on 09/20/2011
As always the professor is spot on, but I wish the Dems would stop talking about the millionaires tax like it's a burden that we're asking the wealthy to shoulder. We need to emphasize that the rich tax home 20% of the wealth but they are not paying their fair share of the taxes. We need to say for several years the wealthiest in our country has enjoyed the benefits of ..... we can no longer afford to give them a free ride. Our country is suffering, we all must do our part. The millionaire welfare system must be dismantled.