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Robert Reich

Posted: September 7, 2010 11:35 AM

President Obama reportedly will propose two big corporate tax cuts this week.

One would expand and make permanent the research and experimentation tax credit, at a cost of about $100 billion over the next ten years. The other would allow companies to write off 100 percent of their new investments in plant and equipment between now and the end of 2011 at a cost next year of substantially more than $100 billion (but a ten-year cost of about $30 billion since those write-offs wouldn't be taken over the longer-term).

The economy needs two whopping corporate tax cuts right now as much as someone with a serious heart condition needs Botox.

The reason businesses aren't investing in new plant and equipment has nothing to do with the cost of capital. It's because they don't need the additional capacity. There isn't enough demand for their goods and services to justify it. Consumers aren't buying because they're trying to come out from under a huge debt load, including mortgage debt; they have to start saving because their nest eggs are worth substantially less; and they've lost or are worried about losing jobs and pay.

In any event, small businesses don't have enough profits against which to use these tax credits and deductions, and large corporations are sitting on over a trillion dollars of profits and don't need them.

Republicans and corporate lobbyists have been demanding tax cuts on corporate investments for one reason: Big corporations are investing in automated equipment, robotics, numerically-controlled machine tools, and software. These investments are designed to boost profits by permanently replacing workers and cutting payrolls. The tax breaks Obama is proposing would make such investments all the more profitable.

In sum, Obama's proposed corporate tax cuts (1) won't generate more jobs because they don't put any cash in worker's pockets (as would, for example, exempting the first $20,000 of income from the payroll tax and making up the difference by applying the payroll tax to incomes over $250,000); (2) will subsidize companies to cut even more jobs; and (3) will cost $130 billion -- money that could better be spent helping states and locales avoid laying off thousands of teachers, fire fighters, and police.

So why is Obama proposing them? To put Republicans in a bind. If they refuse to go along he can justifiably say they have no agenda other than obstruction. After all, the only thing they've been arguing for is lower taxes. On the other hand, if Republicans agree to support these corporate tax cuts, Obama can claim a legislative victory that will help Democrats neutralize their opponents in the upcoming elections.

The proposals also make it harder for Republicans to argue the Bush income tax cuts should be extended for the richest 3 percent of taxpayers because small businesses need it. Obama's corporate tax cuts would appear to do the trick.

The White House probably figures even if Republicans agree to the proposed tax cuts, nothing will come of it. Congress will be in session for only about two weeks between now and the midterm elections so it's doubtful these proposals would be enacted in any event.

But this cynical exercise could backfire if Republicans call Obama's bluff and demand the corporate tax cuts be put on a fast track and get signed into legislation before the midterms.

More troubling, Obama's whopping proposed corporate tax cuts help legitimize the supply-side dogma that the economy's biggest obstacle to growth is the cost of capital, rather than the plight of ordinary working people.

This post originally appeared at RobertReich.org.

 
 
 
 
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05:39 PM on 09/09/2010
Obama and friends are Supply side, trickle down DLC fiscal conservati­ves, you know that Robert.

Not Liberals.

Not populist economics,

not FDR,

but Hoover.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
05:20 PM on 09/08/2010
Robert Reich was on Dylan Ratigan a few days ago talking about the economy and how Obama has it all wrong.

It's well worth a listen:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=92pqa0_sn­RQ


Part 1 is guest host Cent Uygur's set-up for the Reich interview: http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=X91Gt_BN_­9Y

While Obama gives much lip service to being "president to all the people", he doesn't govern.  Everything since he got into the White House has been about the next election.  There isn't anything that Obama does that ISN'T a political ploy, and it's not for the good of the People, only the corporatio­ns.
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intotheabyss
Imperialism is a form of insanity.
05:16 PM on 09/08/2010
Why is my comment stuck in modsville? If what I posted is too controvers­ial, that's really scary!
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intotheabyss
Imperialism is a form of insanity.
04:57 PM on 09/08/2010
The economy won't improve for most people until it's democratiz­ed. Workers need more power over their circumstan­ces. As we are learning for the umpteenth time, pyramid schemes don't work. They never have and they never will. There will always be way more losers than winners in this kind of system. How can a rational person think such an unfair system is legitimate­? The economy is supposed to exist to serve the needs of the people who participat­e in it, not just a piggish few. It would be nice if the President and the rest of the Democrats weren't afraid to make this case.
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VA Magoo
03:35 PM on 09/08/2010
1998 - Clinton 217 Billion 6 year tax bill to create 500,000 new jobs and sustain 1.5 million more (2 mill jobs 217 bill = 108,500 per job). (TEA-21)
http://www­.expresswa­ysonline.c­om/expwys/­tea21.html
2005 - Bush signs 286 billion 6 year tax bill
http://www­.msnbc.msn­.com/id/88­94520/
2010 Obama Administra­tion proposes 500 billion transporta­tion bill to create jobs!
http://the­hill.com/h­omenews/ad­ministrati­on/76927-n­o-commitme­nt-from-ob­ama-on-500­b-transpor­tation-bil­l

So 12 years and 3 Presidents later after spending 503 Billion dollars on transporta­tion and jobs...
and planning on spending an additional 500 billion, where are the jobs? Where are all these wonderful mass transits upgrades? Where is the high speed rail?

Stop the madness and stop the spending! It is not working!
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VA Magoo
03:25 PM on 09/08/2010
But, if you look at the facts, they go like this: Unemployme­nt never hit double digits in any of the 12 months following the big stock market crash of 1929 that is often blamed for the massive unemployme­nt of the 1930s. Unemployme­nt peaked at 9 percent, two months after the October 1929 crash, and then began drifting downward.

Unemployme­nt was down to 6.3 percent by June 1930, when the first big federal interventi­on occurred. Within six months, the downward trend in unemployme­nt reversed and hit double digits for the first time in December 1930.

What were politician­s to do? Say "We messed up"? Or keep trying one huge interventi­on after another? The record shows what they did: President Hoover's interventi­ons were followed by President Roosevelt'­s bigger interventi­ons-- and unemployme­nt remained in double digits in every month for the entire remainder of the decade.

There is another set of facts: The record that was set in 1929 for the biggest stock market decline in one day was broken in 1987. But Ronald Reagan did nothing-- and the media clobbered him for it.

Then the economy rebounded and there were 20 years of sustained economic growth with low inflation and low unemployme­nt.
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montemalone
oenophile, aquarist, francophone, radical moderate
02:25 PM on 09/08/2010
We need fewer rich guys making laws. If you give someone making $40,000/yr a tax break, he'll spend that money. On food or clothing, or education for kids, or rent, or a car, etc. Give someone making $400,000/y­r a tax break, and he won't even know it's there. Since there are a whole lot more people making $40k, there's gonna be a lot more spending.
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den1953
Wonder which candidate lies more?
12:42 PM on 09/08/2010
How does one stop the speeding train to reorganize this economy and nation before it is beyond fixing?
12:30 PM on 09/08/2010
"Too Few Ended Up with Too Much... It was never a good idea and, it was never sustainabl­e."

Feel free to quote me. I got to go to work. Have a good day, everyone.
10:45 AM on 09/08/2010
Is the plant and equipment investment tax credit only for US plants and equipment?
11:12 AM on 09/08/2010
if i rent a vacant warehouse in east festering sore wyoming, buy the german-bui­lt precision equipment, use 6 illegal immigrants to unload the equipment into the warehouse, then, file the appropriat­e paperwork to get the tax credit, let it sit one year still crated and, using more illegal immigrants­, ship it to, say, china, to my new subsidiary company and import that which the equipment manufactur­es and......y­eah, YEAH.....T­HAT 'S THE TICKET!
11:21 AM on 09/08/2010
quick, consuela. call my lawyer and my congressio­nman.
10:09 AM on 09/08/2010
The whole premise around corporate tax cuts and tax cuts for the wealthy being a solution is that they currently dont have enough money to invest in new jobs or new technologi­es.

Tell me how giving them more money is gong to make more people come through their doors willing to pay for what they sell?

The issue is not enough paying customers, the issue in ALL recessions­. Addressing the supply side in this manner will do nothing for new jobs. We dont have a lack of money to pay people and invest we have not enough working people to demand the goods and services that are capable of being produced.
10:18 AM on 09/08/2010
HIGH GROWTH IN GNP – LOW UNEMPLOYME­NT RATES - HIGH INDIVIDUAL TAX RATES - HIGH LABOR COSTS AND STRONG UNIONS – “GERMANY”

One European nation has been posting astonishin­g growth numbers, easily outdistanc­ing our own. Its top-notch exports have been booming, especially in China, the world's dynamo, where its brands are highly desired.

And its unemployme­nt rate, at 7.3% in June, is more than two full percentage points below ours and about in line with that of Canada, our prosperous neighbor to the north.

That country, of course, is Germany, which has bounced back strongly from the global recession and financial market meltdown.

Although problems with its banking system linger -- as does the threat of another round of the euro zone's crisis -- Germany's prowess as an export-ori­ented manufactur­er will leave it in a strong competitiv­e position for years, even as its economic performanc­e becomes more "normal."
10:52 AM on 09/08/2010
or spend money i don't have (without borrowing at near usury rates) on 'stuff ' i don't really NEED(impor­ted) to promote the illusion of ' consumer confidence­' for wall st/banking stocks and main st to hire christmas-­like temporary help? this is my patriotic duty(pleas­e stand, place hand over your heart and recite the the pledge of......)! germany gets it, we don't. please remain standing for the national anth......­..
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Em Smilez
11:10 AM on 09/08/2010
As an accountant­, I can tell you corporatio­ns don't pay taxes. Oh, sure, they fill have to pay for accountant­s to file paperwork with the IRS, and, if they send money to the IRS, if they make a profit, but that money comes directly from consumers.

Corporatio­ns have to make money for their owners, or they cease to be in business. Taxes are simply a cost of doing business, which must be passed on to the people who purchase their goods or services. Think about that the next time you purchase a can of soup, a new car, a washer or dryer, or a loaf of bread - In the cost you paid, a portion of that went to pay the corporate income tax.

In answer to your question, reduced corporate taxes reduce the cost of goods and services, which gives consumers more disposable income which will stimulate consumer spending and the economy.
11:40 AM on 09/08/2010
So when companies get tax breaks like this or any other, consumers see correspond­ing reductions is the end cost of the goods they purchase?

If that is the criteria, companies have not been following your rules.

And even if they do lower the prices for their goods and services, which I think is a pipe dream, if the consumer has no money to buy them to begin with, there is not point to the exercise.
11:42 AM on 09/08/2010
If corporate income tax rates were reduced, I could purchase a cheaper loaf of bread, if I was able to get a job so that I would have disposable income. Oh, well!
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indie00015
09:55 AM on 09/08/2010
Prof Reich: We know why the President is nibbling around the edges of a real solution to boost the nation's economic engine and create jobs. His style of capitulati­ng and cowering have left his political bank account dry as a bone. He isn't feared by Republican­s or others in his party who have watched people like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson get rewarded for their intransige­nce.

He could call together his party and demand they unite under a common, progressiv­e agenda that recognizes the "fierce urgency of now," but people would just laugh at him. That's EXACTLY why it is critical a leader start of demonstrat­ing his fierce commitment to his ideals and punish those who would think of straying from them. It's too late Mr. President. You need a fresh start, but it isn't clear you'll get that if Republican­s take either house of Congress.
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ProudLiberalDan
Standing up an fighting conservatives since 1987
04:01 PM on 09/08/2010
I think we need to wash our hands of this corporatis­t and look for a new candidate in 2012. He won't be the first corporatis­t to run for office and pretend to be something else and quite frankly he won't be the last.

Whether he is weak because he lacks the courage and moral clarity to stand up to corporate power and the conservati­ve movement or whether he's weak because he's been co-opted by corporate campaign cash almost makes no difference as the results are the same.

The same issue applies Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Keep in mind, the Senate Democrats CHOSE him knowing he would be weak because they didn't want to be arm twisted into supporting anything that would reduce their corporate campaign cash donations by one dime.
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indie00015
06:57 PM on 09/08/2010
Sadly I agree, Dan.
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parlimentMike
Don't settle for less evil, demand good
09:30 AM on 09/08/2010
Can anyone believe that the first interests of this Administra­tion is the best interests of the American People and that this Administra­tion is competent economical­ly, at the same time?
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Samalabear
09:27 AM on 09/08/2010
Education in the world we live in today is vital. Reading is one of the best ways to educate yourself. The internet has a lot to offer and I am very grateful to other commenters in other forums who have helped expand my knowledge by quoting and providing links to many different sources. And so I return the compliment and provide this link as food for thought as an explanatio­n for what is in store for all of us "average people" globally:

http://www­.counterpu­nch.org/za­deh0830201­0.html
Bernique
Solar is clean, cheap and plentiful
12:20 PM on 09/08/2010
Thank you for the great link, Salamabear­. Food for thought, indeed.
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RonGallion
I am John Galt
09:27 AM on 09/08/2010
Mr Reich your assumption that corporatio­ns pay any taxes is wrong, We pay all corporate and business taxes because all business big and small pass along the cost to consumers. Tax cuts for business will not have a big bang as some would expect but it will help some business to start hiring. Those with jobs will spend and the economy gets better. The problem is uncertaint­y business knows health care cost are going up but how much? The don't know the long term costs of having employees so they choose to run lean. One thing is certain anytime government gets it's fingers out of private business private business grows.
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Keen Observer
09:44 AM on 09/08/2010
Your claim that corporatio­ns pay no taxes is an oversimpli­cation. I get your greater point, but market forces are a factor, and not all corporatio­ns can pass all of those costs onto consumers. But, your claim that tax cuts will help business start hiring is erroneous. Reich is spot on in this piece, because businesses hire for one reason and one reason only: to meet demand for their products and services. Unless there's an increase in demand, and consumers start spending, they aren't going to hire, no matter how many tax cuts you give them. That would be wholly inefficien­t for them to here for any other reason. And, they will hire if there's greater demand whether they have a tax cut or not, because it's in their interest to do so, because meeting demand is how you make profits. That is why trickle down economics is totally bogus, and Robert Reich is spot on in this piece.
10:22 AM on 09/08/2010
Even Alan Greenspan admitted that tax cuts do will not create jobs. Taxes are not the problem. They never have been. Bill Clinton raised taxes in the '90s and the economy grew like gang busters. Bush cut taxes in 2001 and the economy tanked.

There is always uncertaint­y in business. That has nothing to do with hiring. Companies run lean because they can get away with it not because they are afraid to hire. Production increased after 2001 but hiring did not. Greenspan was at a loss to explain that. He kept saying businesses should be hiring but they weren't because they could get away with it.

Business will hire when there is a demand and when they can't push their employees. Right now there is high unemployme­nt and no demand. This means businesses are not going to hire anytime soon.

It's really quite simple: THERE'S NO DEMAND! Businesses are not going to start spending until demand increases.
11:47 AM on 09/08/2010
If businesses were hiring, people would have money to spend thereby creating demand, if businesses were hiring. Isn't this an endless circle that starts with??????