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Robert Scheer

Robert Scheer

Posted: August 18, 2010 01:59 AM

Ground Zero for Tolerance

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Are the Republicans terminally stupid or are they just playing the dangerous fool? In either case, the irrational attack on Muslims everywhere by the GOP's leadership is not only deeply subversive with regard to the American ideal of religious tolerance, but also poses a profound threat to our national security. Nor does it help that some top Democrats like Harry Reid are willing to demean Muslims even as we fight two wars in which victory depends on our ability to convey a respect for their religion.

Just ask Gen. David Petraeus, who is leading the war without end to win the hearts and minds of Muslims in Afghanistan, how helpful it is to the Taliban for American politicians to identify all Muslims with terrorism. Or to the theocratic leaders of Iran who justify their hard line with the insistence that the U.S. is obsessively anti-Muslim.

Demonization of the Muslim religion is what this brouhaha is all about. Talk of the sensitivity of the victims of 9/11, ignoring those who were Muslim, is just camouflage. It is as absurd as it would be to blame all religious Jews for the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, killed by one gunman from a fanatical Jewish fringe group, or to ban the erection of an Orthodox synagogue anywhere near Rabin's grave. As irrational an act of scapegoating as blaming all ethnic Germans for the acts of Nazis, many of whom claimed to be God-fearing Christians.

Yet that is the logical implication of the comparison that Newt Gingrich made when he likened the proposed erection of a Muslim community center two blocks from the World Trade Center site to putting a Nazi sign next to the Holocaust Museum. On his website, Newt goes further in identifying all Muslims with terrorism: "There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively towards us while they demand our weakness and submission is over."

Consider the full implication of that call for an international cold war against Islam by the former GOP House speaker. Someone should remind Newt that both Republican and Democratic presidents have regarded Saudi Arabia as an ally in the war against terrorism and toward that end sanctioned the sale of very sophisticated weaponry to the kingdom and the sharing of intelligence with its military. So too with the Muslim-dominated government of Pakistan with which we have been allied for a half-century, not to mention our current Muslim allies in power in Iraq and Afghanistan. As a leader in Congress, Gingrich supported those policies, but now in his zeal to misrepresent President Barack Obama's perfectly sensible stand that we are not at war with the Muslim world, he abandons not only his record but also any pretense of logic.

But even if one accepts that the Wahhabi version of Islam dominant in Saudi Arabia helps fuel violent spin-offs of the Osama bin Laden variety (although bin Laden would be summarily executed in his native land), what does this have to do with a Sufi Muslim community center proposed for lower Manhattan? As the highly regarded religion writer William Dalrymple pointed out in a New York Times Op-Ed piece, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the leader of the group hoping to build the New York center, is a moderate Sufi, and he and his movement's espousal of universal brotherhood have been a target of violence. The Taliban was so threatened by the Sufi message of universal love that it attacked a Pakistani shrine to the great 17th century Sufi poet-saint Rahman Baba. "I am a lover, and I deal in love," Dalrymple writes in citing Baba's revered Sufi verse, which continues, "Sow flowers,/ so your surroundings become a garden./ Don't sow thorns; for they will prick your feet./ We are all one body./ Whoever tortures another, wounds himself."

Just the message most relevant to adorn a building near the site of the World Trade Center, leveled by those who sow thorns. But sadly the thorns of religious bigotry are not a monopoly of any one religion or easily resisted by the demagogic politicians who exploit our ignorance of the other. The premise of our constitutional protection of religious diversity is that ignorance is the enemy of freedom.

Our founders were keenly aware, from the lessons of Europe and the early American colonies, of the dangers posed by false prophets from within their own churches. They knew well from deep personal experience, as is revealed clearly in the writings of Washington and Jefferson, that religious and political liberty was most effectively threatened by the zealotry of one's own kin.

 
Are the Republicans terminally stupid or are they just playing the dangerous fool? In either case, the irrational attack on Muslims everywhere by the GOP's leadership is not only deeply subversive wit...
Are the Republicans terminally stupid or are they just playing the dangerous fool? In either case, the irrational attack on Muslims everywhere by the GOP's leadership is not only deeply subversive wit...
 
 
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TRex86
Enjoying life in West Ohio
09:36 AM on 08/29/2010
The Republicans and a few craven Democrats now oppose religious freedom and private property rights. Hard to imagine. Not since the relocation of Japanese-Americans in WWII have we gone off the rails like this. It is indeed "terminal stupidity." We are living in a time of super-McCarthyite demagogues, whipping the mob into a frenzy over phony issues. Yet no one seems to see the picture.

The Republicans have only one philosophy: win at any price. The Timidcrats stand for feckless hand-wringing--"Love me I'm a liberal." They stumble all over themselves looking for compromises where any compromise is a fundamental violation of Constitutional rights. Shades of the civil rights era. Be patient. Your time will come. As with the parable of the scorpion and the frog it is idle to blame the Republicans for being who they are. They dutifully serve their billionaire paymasters. The Dems, on the other hand, belong in the warmer sectors of hell if they can't grow a pair soon.
10:52 PM on 08/20/2010
There is an Islamic 'Hersey' if you even bother to follow Muslim RELIGIOUS politics, as not all Muslims have the option of SECULAR politics, the way supposed unbiased Americans of BOTH political persuasions do, that is mirrored by divisive partisanship via Gendered Discourse. Placing politics on a level that has more in common with foreign policy than domestic leadership. Dualism, allows Islam to be implemented DEFACTO via this mechanism by people who would claim no relationship with it or with any 'party' other than the blue or the red they associate with American Democracy or Republic (Gendered Discourse again and some would suggest solipsism if they were feeling particularly inclined to discuss this with me and they would be right to bring it up for sake of empirical argument.) That said, I don't find this discussion to enlighten me at this time, nor do I find myself swayed by the supposed rant of the GOP. The only rants I am hearing are coming from media I read daily and they are not conservative.
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LarBear
09:46 AM on 08/20/2010
Based on the comments, "they have a Constitutional Right to build there" BUT "it's about 'sensitivity' so they should go elsewhere" then logically/ rationally/ reasonably, since a Christian, claiming Christian beliefs, Murdered a Doctor who in his Health Care of women, also did Legal abortions, then out of "sensitivity" protestors should stay several blocks away from Clinics...
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TRex86
Enjoying life in West Ohio
09:38 AM on 08/29/2010
The sensitivity police are the Republican version of political correctness. Last time I read it the 1st Amendment wasn't qualified to exclude insensitive speech or religious beliefs. Where's Voltaire now that we need him.
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Weirdwriter
05:48 PM on 08/19/2010
Suggest for anyone posting the same lame distortions, myths, claims and outright lies about this planned Islamic cultural center that this FAQ be read first.

http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/frequently-asked-questions

Islam is not your enemy, folks. And the AMERICAN Muslims don't have any sinister plans. Anything to the contrary is codswallop and spite.
08:59 PM on 08/19/2010
Correct. Islam is not your enemy. The complete faith put in mythical gods is an enemy of sorts.
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Weirdwriter
09:37 PM on 08/19/2010
Good thing the faiths we're discussing don't have any, then.
03:39 PM on 08/19/2010
I am going to have to go with "terminally stupid". There is absolutely no other possible rational option.
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JShankel
I want my country forward
02:52 PM on 08/19/2010
Still can't help but notice that no one seems to be able to answer a simple question: what exactly is it about having a Muslim community center near Ground Zero that is so upsetting?

I know people are upset and there's an argument that the builders should just be sensitive to that mere fact. I don't dispute this. But that still doesn't answer why they are upset.

I know that this building is close to Ground Zero and is in close proximity to property that was damaged on 9/11. I still haven't heard an explanation for why a Muslim community center shouldn't be built on property damaged on 9/11. Why not? Why exactly not?

I know that those who object accept that the builders have a constitutional right to build here. I'm not arguing that they should or shouldn't and I think we're all on the same page about their rights.

So, again, why exactly is this upsetting? What is it specifically that causes any upset?

To use Mr. Gingrich's example, putting a monument to Hi.tler near the Holocaust Museum would be upsetting because Hi.tler tried to exterminate the Jewish people and he was the enemy of the United States. So it would be upsetting to build a monument to him anywhere, but most especially in the proximity of a museum dedicated to the memory of his victims.

So, that would be the reason that hypothetical would be upsetting. What's the reason here?
08:04 AM on 08/20/2010
Intent.

Despite the potential backlash against an Islamic institution opening so close to ground zero, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who already leads prayers and reads from the Koran inside the building, said that the location was one of the project's key selling points. "New York is the capital of the world, and this location close to 9/11 is iconic," [NYT 12/8/2009]

Iconic indeed.

The location permits the appropriation of the physical location of what most Americans consider an unparalled act of terrorism against America for the purpose of Islamist propoganda.

Here's a great, expanded, post on intent with regard to this mosque:

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/browse_thread/thread/3a520a0871debbb4”
08:05 AM on 08/20/2010
Intent.

Despite the potential backlash against an Islamic institution opening so close to ground zero, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who already leads prayers and reads from the Koran inside the building, said that the location was one of the project's key selling points. "New York is the capital of the world, and this location close to 9/11 is iconic," [NYT 12/8/2009]

Iconic indeed.

The location permits the appropriation of the physical location of what most Americans consider an unparalleled act of terrorism against America for the purpose of Islamist propoganda.

Here's a great, expanded, post on intent with regard to this mosque:

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/browse_thread/thread/3a520a0871debbb4”
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02:06 PM on 08/19/2010
I vote that people are terminally stupid. This country was founded on freedom of religion. Whether it's in bad taste or not is a whole separate question.
01:20 PM on 08/19/2010
The math breaks down like this~ 63% of NYers oppose the mosque. The ratio of Dems to Republicans in NYC is 5-1...You are crucifying your own with this rhetoric.
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LarBear
09:58 PM on 08/19/2010
Brianne K ....

Where did you get 63%? Where Stats Dems to Reps = 5 to 1...

Falseness of your " You are crucifying your own with this rhetoric." Even IF Prior stats is actual, I don't belong to Dems... Favor some Progressive Democrats, Yeppers... Total contempt for Rabid Blue Dog Dems, Rabid Red Dog Republicans, absolutely...

"crucified" (?), a Religious term... I'm of WE the People, of Constitutional/ Declaration of Independence, legitimate Government, USA... I, Patriotically stand up to anyone attempting to harm, USA...

IMHO, Rupert Murdock, Rabid Red Dog Republicans, right wing supporters, plus throw in some Democrats, ARE, IMHO, a PRIME threat to USA...

Which Party supports Secessionists? Wants to change about 5 Ammendments to Constitution, they claim believing in, claims we're a Christian Nation?

Which, Prime planner/ supporters of Invading / Occupying two Foriegn Nations (WARS Must Be Constitutionally Declared by Congress, so Occupations)... Which, Prime responsibility for 250,000 Military People with brain injuries, plus 5,000 Military, Dead? Plus many Iraqi civilians/ Afghani civilians? Prime for spending over a Trillion $$$$$ to "topple" Saddam?

Which, primarily put us 2+ Trillion in Debt, lost millions of Jobs, calls People out of work , LAZY, has neglected our Infastructure, continues saying NO/ continues America's crash in hopes of regaining Control again?

I, could go on, but if people are to ignorant/ un-educated to grasp what, I, just pointed out, what for?
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01:03 PM on 08/19/2010
People are upset and the builders of the building don't care. That's insensitive. Everyone can say that being upset is illogical, maybe it is, it's still fact. I don't care whether yet another intolerant, sexist, homophobic religion builds a building. They're all pretty much the same to me. I guess we should all be used to the fact that contrary to their teachings, most religions are pretty insensitive to people's feelings. Build your building, clearly upsetting people in the process, and whine about your feelings being hurt. Why don't we all have a good cry?
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JShankel
I want my country forward
02:39 PM on 08/19/2010
Okay, but just being upset isn't enough. You have to be able to articulate what it is that is upsetting.

If you put a rose bush in your front yard and I tell you that it upsets me and I think you should move it to your backyard, don't you think you have every right to ask why I am offended?

So, what is it then that is so upsetting?
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07:03 PM on 08/19/2010
You still aren't hearing me. I'm not upset. In fact I don't care one way or the other. I'm just saying they aren't making any attempt to listen to the complainers, then they're whining about people being mean. What they're saying is, "We don't care that you're upset, we're going to do it anyway." That's fine with me, just stop telling me how it's all about peace and reconciliation when you clearly don't care about either, you just have an agenda. As for the rosebush, I really wouldn't care that you were upset. Just like the group building the building clearly doesn't care they're upsetting anyone.
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12:55 PM on 08/19/2010
"I notice that even the choice of the name Cordoba has offended some Christian opponents of the scheme. This wonderful city in Andalusia, after the Muslim conquest of southern Spain, was indeed one of the centers of the lost Islamic caliphate that today's jihadists have sworn in blood to restore. And after the Catholic reconquista, it was also one of the places purged of all Arab and Jewish influence by the founders of the Inquisition. But in the interval between these two imperialisms it was also the site of an astonishing cultural synthesis, best associated with the names of Averroes ibn-Rushd and Moses Maimonides. (The finest recent book on the subject is MarĂ­a Rosa Menocal's The Ornament of the World.) Here was a flourishing of philosophy and medicine and architecture that saw, among other things, the recovery of the works of Aristotle. We need not automatically assume the good faith of those who have borrowed this noble name for a project in lower Manhattan."
Christopher Hitchens
11:14 AM on 08/19/2010
Thomas Jefferson is the founder who sticks in the craw of the sanctimonious American right. Jefferson believed in a creator, but not in the divinity of Jesus, much less the virgin birth, which he thought only as a “fable”. But most of all he believed that the Republic stood or fell by its absolute commitment to freedom of conscience.
“It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg,” he wrote in his Notes on Virginia. Jefferson owned a Quran, and was fascinated by Islamic learning that he recognised to have been the medieval guardian of the classical wisdom he revered. His 1777 draft of the Virginia Statute on Religious Toleration is plangent in its fierce refusal to allow government any role in interference with freedom to think or worship how and where one wishes.
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Occam123
11:39 AM on 08/19/2010
"Jefferson owned a Quran, and was fascinated by Islamic learning."
Khem.. back to reality.

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes" Thomas. Jefferson, Letter to von Humboldt, (1813)
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12:52 PM on 08/19/2010
Jefferson - isn't he the guy who was scrubbed by the cretins behind the Texas school-book debacle? Brilliant man.
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Pennsylvanianne
There is no sin but ignorance.
02:11 PM on 08/19/2010
The very same. Too liberal for Texans. Yet conservatives cite the Founding Fathers. Makes your head spin, doesn't it?
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Drash
I'm kind of a big deal
11:10 AM on 08/19/2010
So today's new talking point for those opposed to the Islamic community center (no doubt given to them by Fox News) is this;

"Sure, this group has the constitutional right to build this mosque, but should they? Why can't they be more sensitive?"

So allow me to translate this... what the community center opponents are basically saying is the group shouldn't build the Islamic community center because they are Muslim and the 19 hijackers were Muslim. Their argument tries to connect the Sept. 11th attacks to the Islamic community center using religion as a common thread. In other words, a Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim, which simply equates to the argument that if an African American robbed a liquor store, all African Americans rob liquor stores. The right is trying to look like they're "constitutional scholars" with this new argument, but it's simply old wine (bigotry and xenophobia) in new skins.
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Occam123
11:46 AM on 08/19/2010
Community center?!!!

If it were a community center it wouldn't be named after Cordoba Caliphate, an Islamic conquest in Europe. Muslims understand this reference very clearly.So should be Americans,.

Spanish Inquisition community Center, anyone?
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Drash
I'm kind of a big deal
11:51 AM on 08/19/2010
More misinformation and revisionist history from the right.
12:00 PM on 08/19/2010
Elucidate us Sir. Tell us what your understanding of the Cordoba Caliphate is in 250 words or less. I always find it interesting when political extremists throw around inflammatory terms to incite anti-muslim hysteria. When you probe a little deeper you find they have no knowledge of the factual history or the historical context of the term they use to incite. They're usually repeating something they've heard from a historical revisionist like Newt Gingrich, a purported academic who distorts history in the most intellectually dishonest way imaginable.
12:04 PM on 08/19/2010
Would it not make more sense to construct something grand at the site of the WTC than to grouse on about the rightness or wrongness of some religious group building itself a facitility in the vicinity?
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Drash
I'm kind of a big deal
12:16 PM on 08/19/2010
Ask the Port Authority and the developers why after nearly nine years there's still a big hole there.
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Occam123
10:56 AM on 08/19/2010
Imam Rauf can considerably reduce the furor by:
1. Publicly agreeing to refuse funds from Middle Eastern Wahhabi sources.!!!
2. Canceling State Department sponsored petro-dollar money raising trip.
3. Reveal sources of financing for this mosque.
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peterg76
Freelance medical transcriptionist
10:39 AM on 08/19/2010
"Are the Republicans terminally stupid or are they just playing the dangerous fool?"

Republicans are not *playing* the dangerous fool.
10:06 AM on 08/19/2010
"Demonization of the Muslim religion is what this brouhaha is all about. Talk of the sensitivity of the victims of 9/11, ignoring those who were Muslim, is just camouflage. "

Thank you.
03:58 PM on 08/19/2010
And they seem to also conveniently gloss over the families of victims who have spoken out in favor of the community center.