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Robert Scheer

Posted: June 2, 2010 03:30 AM

Treat Palestinians Like Jews

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It was an act of international terrorism, pure and simple. There can be no valid claims of self-defense on the part of Israeli commandos who attacked a ship of protesters in international waters, killing nine civilians and kidnapping more than 600 others -- including 15 international reporters who were prevented from filing their stories by a nation that claims to be the beacon of democracy in the Mideast.

Trust me, I do not come to this viewpoint lightly. This is an issue I have written about with anguish ever since I visited Gaza and the West Bank immediately after the Six-Day War 43 years ago, and the fact that those apartheid zones still stand in oppressive isolation from the norms of human rights is a sad commentary on our profession. There is no subject on which American journalists so disgrace themselves by embracing a double standard or about which our politicians are permitted the kind of hypocritical cop-out once again demonstrated by the tepid response of the Obama administration.

If nothing else, this assault on decency by the Israeli government was clearly intended to derail the peace talks that President Barack Obama has encouraged. But instead of calling Israel on its savagery, the U.S. is virtually alone in the world in its embarrassingly mild rebuke. The politicians cave so shamelessly because they know that media will be obsequiously tolerant of such immoral equivocation.

The last time I wrote about Israel and Gaza, the San Francisco Chronicle suddenly decided to stop running my weekly column. No great hardship -- I have other outlets -- but I would be lying if I denied the apprehension I feel every time I dare write critically about Israel and brace myself for the charge that I am yet another "self-hating Jew." A charge certain to be leveled against even Hedy Epstein, the 85-year-old Holocaust survivor who at last report was attempting to board yet another aid boat, the Rachel Corrie, named after a heroic American protester who was bulldozed to death by Israelis in 2003.

The first time I encountered that bewildering criticism of Jews who dare to be morally consistent -- despite that being our historical obligation -- was when I was an editor at Ramparts and nearly bankrupted the magazine in attempting to cover the Six-Day War, during which Israel grabbed control of Gaza and the West Bank. We had assigned the legendary journalist I.F. Stone to write about the war, thinking it a wise choice, given that he had accompanied the first boats of Jewish displaced persons from World War II traveling to found the state of Israel. Back then he celebrated that quest: "These Jews want the right to live as a people, to build as a people, to make their contribution to the world as a people. Are their national aspirations any less worthy of respect than those of any other oppressed people?"

But then he wrote after the Six-Day War that he felt compelled to deal also with the oppression of the Palestinians and their desire for a home. His report was balanced and fair, which of course was a problem to some of the Ramparts investors who strongly favored honest journalism on every subject except Israel.

I upset them further by traveling to Egypt and Israel at the end of the Six-Day War and visited newly occupied Gaza, where I questioned the assertion of top officials, including Moshe Dayan, that they would bring freedom to the Palestinians there that the previous Egyptian and Jordanian occupiers had denied. It never happened, because the intentions of occupiers to improve the lot of the conquered become moot if the occupiers insist on continuing their reign of power. How easy it is to forget that the Palestinians were not the ones who attacked Israel at the time of the Six-Day War. On the contrary, it was their previous overlords, Egypt and Jordan, with which Israel has long since had relatively good relations. An accommodation of occupiers made above the head of the occupied.

There is no such thing as a morally acceptable occupation, and as the oppressed resist they will become more violent in their desperation. In turn the occupiers will show their true colors as oppressors. As the great Israeli writer Amos Oz wrote in Tuesday's New York Times, " ... ever since the Six-Day war in 1967, Israel has been fixated on military force." He excoriates the prevailing Israeli view "that the Palestinian problem can be crushed instead of solved." That is the essence of the problem and the solution: End the crushing occupation and begin to solve the problem of providing the Palestinians, as well as the Jews, with a viable homeland.

 
It was an act of international terrorism, pure and simple. There can be no valid claims of self-defense on the part of Israeli commandos who attacked a ship of protesters in international waters, kill...
It was an act of international terrorism, pure and simple. There can be no valid claims of self-defense on the part of Israeli commandos who attacked a ship of protesters in international waters, kill...
 
 
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10:07 PM on 06/23/2010
Hey Robert...those "Aparheid areas" you talk about right after the 1967 war were ruled by Jordan and Egypr for decades!!
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tallen
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09:53 PM on 06/23/2010
"here can be no valid claims of self-defense on the part of Israeli commandos "

Unless of course you watch one of the numerous videos.

It's utterly laughable, the complete denial of reality of those who are head over heels in love with hamas and its terror.
10:00 PM on 06/23/2010
You mean MOST of the posters here and in general on the World Page of HP.of course!
01:06 PM on 06/05/2010
The purpose of the “humanitarian” flotilla was provocation, NOT to aid people in Gaza. Hamas, a huge terrorist group, controls Gaza Strip. Ancient history aside, the last 4 years+, they've been firing rockets into Israeli cities to kill civilians. (the same people that celebrate 9/11 by giving away candy to kids in the streets) Imagine Los Angeles is attacked by rockets from Mexico daily. What would the U.S.do? And if the Mexican Army also abducts American soldiers on the border, unprovoked? Mexico wouldn’t stand a chance. This tragedy happens in Israel constantly (recently Gilad Shalit)What does Israel do? Put a siege on Gaza until firing and attacks end completely, and soldier returned.

The “humanitarian” boat from Turkey is supposedly bringing aid. To pass through, Israel tells the passengers boat must be inspected by the UN, Red Cross, or IDF/Israel. Upon refusal they're alerted the Israeli Navy would take control of boat to bring to Israeli port. They didn't want to be checked because they weren't there to help anyone; only to provoke Israel. The“peace activists” arrange an ambush and brutally attack Israeli Navy. They found on the boat: knifes, bats, stun grenades, weapons, lots of money on individual persons (hired). Eventually aid from flotilla is transported,by Israelis,to Gaza with 25 trucks.Compared with 100+ trucks with aid Israel sends to Gaza everyday.Why blame Israel for everything? What will it take for the international community to recognize the boomerang effects of terrorism against Israel?
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rogsanclemente
05:21 PM on 06/05/2010
The purpose of most, if not all, conflicts between peoples trying to occupy the same land is that everyone has a right to live. Yes I know there are also ideological and, in this case, religious principles that can heavily influence conflicts (crusades, anyone?); but the fundamental matter is right to life. Of course Hamas, Palestine more generally, the Islamic world most generally, need to recognize that about Israel; but it also couldn't hurt for Israel to get off its overweening self-righteousness and recognize that Palestinians have the same rights as Israel---and in this country, it alo couldn't hurt for the righteous indignation of any blindly-pro-Israel Americans to recognize that a well.

Of course, that would endanger us! Because it would endanger the carefully-crafted self-righteousness we've built as a national myth for ourselves ("manifest destiny" was its 19th-century name: "God MEANT for us to occupy this whole continent! Deal with it, Natives!"), and---oh, horrors---might force us to be morally accountable for our OWN occupation of this land.

What will it take for America, along with the international community, to recognize that all peoples have a right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness---rights which our founders recognized as genuinely God-given, but which neither our own history, nor the ongoing mutual aggression between Israel and Palestine, comes close to living up to.
08:56 PM on 06/05/2010
You speak of Israel as a nation-state and refer to Palestinians as a people (need to recognize that about Israel... also couldn't hurt for Israel to get off its overweening self-righteousness and recognize that Palestinians have the same rights); a very interesting (and I’m assuming unconscious) distinction, which leads me to question your conclusions even further. As for “overweening self-righteousness,” isn’t the issue at hand “right-to-life?” A little more just, righteous conduct wouldn’t hurt anyone in fact it would ensure that this cycle of hate and violence stops. TOLERANCE!The Holocaust, the largest, systematic mass genocide of all time, took away the right to life of 10 million people and happened less than 3 generations ago (2 for you). Notice I didn’t say Jews. Or Israelis. Or gypsies, or homosexuals, or any other minority. Because the intolerance was not limited to Jews. What will stop an atrocity this grand in scale from happening again? Hamas directs their attacks on highly populated civilan areas. The Israeli army informs Palestinians before an attack through text, internet, etc... Righteousness....hmm. (Un)fortunately whether or not the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness was actually god-given is up in the air, and religious. Morality, on the other hand, is to be human.
stpmdn
stop the madness!
08:54 AM on 06/04/2010
well said.
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Zoya Ahmad
02:25 AM on 06/04/2010
Wonderful article. Thank you for your honest and just commentary.
09:43 PM on 06/23/2010
Horrible banter and propaganda BS!
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BocaMom
02:10 AM on 06/04/2010
No one is upset with the North Koreans when the sinks a boat and murders 47 people, But when Israel tries to protect itself from terrorists who are trying to kill its people, let's blame the Jews. All these Jew haters are totally disgusting!
stpmdn
stop the madness!
08:55 AM on 06/04/2010
no body is blaming the Jews. People are blaming this regime.

BTW north korea didn't attack a civilian boat. It was a naval attack ship.
09:46 PM on 06/23/2010
Regime?? Bibi was democratically elected! Do you even KNOW what a regime is??
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Mishal Zeera
01:43 PM on 06/04/2010
I read exactly the same comment in another article, under a different name.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
04:15 PM on 06/04/2010
Obviously a zionist conspiracy, right? What are the odds of two separate people offering similar comments on the same topic?
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12:43 AM on 06/04/2010
Best article ever on the occupation of Palestine by the Israelis. I'm just surprised HP allowed it - given all the censoring of posts that condemn the savage attack on the Turkish boat.
12:31 AM on 06/04/2010
Scheer is a strong supporter of occupation except when it comes to Israel. For example, he never show any opposition to the occupation of Gaza and Judea-Samaria by Egypt and Jordan before 1967. He does not show any opposition to the occupation of Lebanon by Syria and Iran.

Most importantly, he supports the illegal occupation of Cyprus by Turkey because the so-called freedom flotilla started its trip from the part of Cyprus illegally occupied by Turkey. This part of the island was conquered by a bloody military action and ethnically cleansed of all its Christians unhabitants.
01:30 AM on 06/04/2010
What? Am I to assume that you have read every word Mr. Scheer has written about every occupation?
12:09 AM on 06/04/2010
This is the same old occupation scam. Scheer should explain us why 'Palestinians' were not fighting Jordan and Egypt between 1947 and 1967. Actually, they were fighting Israel.
01:31 AM on 06/04/2010
'Palestinians'? So called but not existing? What is your point?
06:49 AM on 06/04/2010
Before 1967, 'Palestinians' were attacking Israelis not Jordans or Egyptians.
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11:39 PM on 06/03/2010
Says Mr. Scheer: "It was an act of international terrorism, pure and simple."

Yet Scheer doesn't mention that the blockade has been in place since 2007 (?) and enforced by both Egypt and Israel. Also no mention of any attempts by either Egypt or Israel to allow the contents of those ships to go to Gaza by any other means. No mention of rocket attacks from Gaza. This was a "no-lose" scenario for the Palestinians and a "no-win" scenario for Israel.

Says Mr. Scheer: "End the crushing occupation and begin to solve the problem of providing the Palestinians, as well as the Jews, with a viable homeland."

Does Mr. Scheer, with his vast experience in the region since the 1967 War, have a particular place in mind? Does he think Hamas will actually quit fighting Israel? Really?
12:07 AM on 06/04/2010
Yeah, you think the Israelis were going to allow reconstruction materials and medical supplies--materials that they are ALREADY PREVENTING from entering Gaza--to get in there?????

Sorry, friend, but you're completely brainwashed, and completely ignorant of what's been going on in Gaza.

PS: The Egyptian leader is just another tyrant thug supported by the US (like Saddam was) so let's not pretend that Egypt's participation in the blockade means that it is just or even legal.
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12:28 AM on 06/04/2010
"Yeah, you think the Israelis were going to allow reconstruction materials and medical supplies..."

I didn't say the situation was perfect, but are you giving Hamas a pass on this?

"Sorry, friend, but you're completely brainwashed, and completely ignorant of what's been going on in Gaza."

And all those attacks by terrorists, rockets and mortars coming out of Gaza into Israel all those years were made up as well?

"PS: The Egyptian leader is just another tyrant thug supported by the US..."

In my lifetime there have been three Egyptian presidents (Nasser, Sadat and Mubarak). At least Sadat had the sense to see that constant warring with Israel was getting them both nowhere and Mubarak is pledged to continue that trend. Ditto for Jordan. If you want to talk about "thugs" don't forget Hamas...

Israel's not perfect, and they have some explaining to do in the conduct of their operation. But Hamas was looking for a "martyr scenario" and got exactly that. You either can not or will not acknowledge the possibility of deliberate provocation by Hamas for political advantage, no matter how many people got hurt.
stpmdn
stop the madness!
08:58 AM on 06/04/2010
Egypt takes orders from Israel through US proxy. Basically they have to keep the blocade to get their monthly check from the US
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05:38 PM on 06/04/2010
That would be an interesting revelation providing you could actually prove it.
09:57 PM on 06/23/2010
We pay off Mubarak because the Alternative is the Muslim Brotherhood..the Grandaddy of the other terrorist organizations in the area!
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rogsanclemente
03:31 PM on 06/03/2010
As this country approaches July 4, we all celebrate liberty and independence. Hooray. Except, of course, as applied to any group of people whose liberty would inconvenience our own, which we have imposed on them: Americans on First Nations, Israel on Palestinians, Turks/Iraqis/Iranians on Kurds, Chinese on I've-lost-count-of-how-many-ethnic-groups-they've-got-under-their-thumb,-with-Tibet-as-only-one, on and on.

The currently dominant group or nation, of course, always takes affront at the mere suggestion that it is somehow an oppressor: "Why, we believe in liberty! And we stand for liberty around the world! 'Around the world', meaning, elsewhere except within our own borders! Or within the borders of our allies who likewise are keeping other groups under their thumb! How dare you be unpatriotic by questioning our support of liberty! We wave our flags in your face! So there! We have the right to do this. Might makes right, you know. Now shut up and help us celebrate liberty! Or we might take yours away, too. And say, while we're on the topic---your papers, please? Are you here legally---?"
01:14 PM on 06/03/2010
Alex343 writes: " If people threaten your very existence, you have a right to protect yourself, and to do so is morally acceptable."

I am an American writer who has lived in Venice, Italy since 1998. The experiences that Robert Scheer writes about are hauntingly familiar to me. I have been terrorized physically, mentally and emotionally. My character has been defamed. I was illegally and forcibly evicted from my apartment on June 10, 2009. On July 1, 2009, a piece of glass in the shape of a dagger (12mm X 40mm) was shoved into a festering wound on my right foot during a pedicure. Etc.

In searching for an answer to as to WHY, I had to cram in huge amounts of research under extreme circumstances. Prior to these events, I had deliberately isolated myself from TV and newspapers, preferring to write about the past.

One of my first exposures to the seriousness of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict came when I attended the Eurogolfe Forum. I wrote about it on my Venetian Cat-Venice Blog in a post I published on October 22, 2008, which you can read here:

http://venetiancat.blogspot.com/2008/10/new-world-order.html

I am now back in my apartment. I just learned that there is still a 3mm object in my right foot that will require surgery to remove. If I, as an American citizen, can be treated this way in the year 2010, we should all be outraged.

Catherine "Cat" Bauer
04:04 PM on 06/03/2010
so you were mistreated in Italy but blamer America for it? maybe the italians just don't like you.
11:28 AM on 06/03/2010
"Treat Palestinians like Jews"? I hope he's not referring to Jews in towns within striking distance of Hamas. Or Jews in France. Or in Argentina. Or on this message board.
12:11 AM on 06/04/2010
Hamas would never have been voted into power if not for Israel's ILLEGAL and inhumane 40-year occupation of Gaza. People who are forced to live under occupation and are constantly terrorized have a tendency to elect leaders who WILL sometimes fight back.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
01:35 PM on 06/04/2010
Considering there other option was Fatah, electing Hamas seems to be a conscious choice to fight Israel rather than seek some sort of peace agreement. Fatah has been attacking Israel for years as well. If Fatah was not belligerent enough for them, maybe you should start blaming the palestinians for some of their own situation.
09:47 PM on 06/23/2010
really..Hamas is fighting back in what way??? Burning an Israeli flag or two?? Its leader is cowardly hiding in Damascus!
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yasunari
Video meliora, proboque, deteriora sequor
06:28 AM on 06/04/2010
Can you explain a little bit about jews in France?
I must have missed something...
11:28 AM on 06/04/2010
July 2009 - "France has the biggest Muslim and Jewish communities in Europe and it is not the first time that violence in the Middle East has translated into a wave of anti-Semitic acts in France."

July 2009 - "Anti-Semitic crimes in France coinciding with the Gaza war drove the number of anti-Semitic incidents in 2009 to nearly double over the previous year, according to a new report."

February 2009 - "But an old and sinister hostility towards Jews has also recently bubbled up to the surface, serving as a reminder of ugly periods in France's past."

"In recent years, French Jewry has been widely featured in the international media after a surge of anti-Semitic attacks began in 2000." (http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history/Jewish_World_Today/Jews_Around_the_Globe/France.shtml)

And before you defend it by saying it's only because of Israel's actions in Gaza, remember that French Jews have no say in what the Israeli government does.
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09:36 AM on 06/03/2010
Ok so let me get this straight, if i understand the logic of a few of the posts here, since there were only "a few" israeli's killed by Gazan rockets, that they should take no steps to protect themselves?? They should go after those firing the rockets?? they should stop ships to look for rocket parts??

As it relates to this specific event, we cant look at the totality of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict as there is ample fault on both sides. Israel was justified in boarding the ship to enforce a blockade targetted at stopping the inflow of weapons that will be used against israelis...period.

Once we move to the broader conflict then, yes, there is much fault on both sides.

But not in this case.

Solution for Gazans?? stop firing rockets, have hamas repudiate acts of violence and then see what happens.
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Lukester
10:28 AM on 06/03/2010
Killing nine to search for weapons.
10:43 AM on 06/03/2010
Including one American with four (4) bullet holes in the head.
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11:41 AM on 06/03/2010
Even under the 1993-1994 agreements, Israel was going to have the right to inspect shipping into Gaza.

If Gaza was an independent country, then Israel's actions would be fully justified under international law. Israel declared a blockade. Once a ship leaves port with the intention of breaching the blockade, it can be stopped anywhere. If necessary, force can be used to prevent breaching the blockade. Those are the facts.

So the only way to argue that Israel's actions were illegal is to argue that Gaza isn't a state that is at war with Israel and the rules haven't changed to recognize a case like this.

What's left is the issue of excessive force. Dropping soldiers on board the ship to legally take control of it is a lot less severe than ramming the ship, disabling the ship with gunfire or even sinking it.
09:03 AM on 06/03/2010
Give israel it's due, and whatever it wants. I mean, they're the "chosen" people, no?
04:06 PM on 06/03/2010
ahh the stormfront crowd is out in force today. to busy for a rally?
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yasunari
Video meliora, proboque, deteriora sequor
06:35 AM on 06/04/2010
Don't spit on stormfront...
They are your objective allies in your lilttle crusade against Islam.

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09:33 PM on 06/03/2010
wow thats a laughable notion