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Bad Options for Immigration Marchers

Posted: 05/07/10 03:50 PM ET

A tough, nasty Arizona law pulled immigration rights marchers back into the streets of American cities over the weekend, demanding that Washington take action. Given how President Obama and the Democratic leaders in Congress have responded to Arizona's provocation, the marchers might end up wishing they had stayed home.

Two possible outcomes lie ahead: Congress can pass a bill based on the Democratic proposal unveiled late last week by Sen. Charles Schumer, the immigration subcommittee chair. Or, the legislative effort stalls and nothing gets passed this year. Neither is a particularly good scenario for immigrant rights advocates, Latino political leaders and others who share the views of those who marched Saturday.

Pro-immigration forces have been badgering President Obama since his inauguration to fulfill his campaign promise to make comprehensive immigration reform a priority. Now that the first steps towards Congressional action have been taken, they are going to have to keep up the pressure. Obviously, it would be huge setback if an immigration debate ends in stalemate as it did in the Senate in 2006 and 2007.

Each of those debates involved weeks, if not months, of behind the scenes negotiating and then weeks of floor action with a fully committed White House and bipartisan sponsorship from the start. This year the Senate has little time available with a Supreme Court nomination and other matters looming, Obama is totally MIA on this issue compared to George W. Bush, and the two political parties are more at odds than at any time in living memory.

If the battle is joined on Capitol Hill and no legislation emerges, as seems likely, the immigration issue might not come up again until after the 2012 presidential elections. But, Latino politicians and the immigrant rights activists could face another, even more immediate, peril.

Top Democrats, including Sen. Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, are barely disguising their hope to use immigration to boost Latino voter turnout in the November election. A stalemate blamed on the Republicans would fit this strategy just fine. But, it is not a great situation for Latino Democrats. They'll have to make good on their claim that the Latino electorate is finally big enough to play kingmaker under the extremely unfavorable circumstances of an off-year election in which their party is likely to take a drubbing.

At best, they'll be able to claim that a Latino mobilization curtailed Democratic losses. That's not exactly the sleeping-giant-awakens narrative that Latino leaders have touted. And, even to get that, they'll have to rally Latinos with the weak argument that Obama and the Congressional Democrats are better than the Republicans on immigration even though they couldn't accomplish anything.

A successful Congressional debate might not be a lot better for those who have the interests of Saturday's marchers at heart. Obama and other top Democrats in Washington had been trying to avoid the immigration issue until Arizona forced them to scramble. Most of the proposal unveiled last Thursday had been drafted over the past several months with the intent of getting Republicans onboard as co-sponsors. That failed, completely, but in the rush to respond to Arizona, Schumer, with Reid at his side, went public with a proposal that makes major concessions. That proposal is now the opening bid for any negotiation.

For example, the Schumer proposal adopts the "enforcement first" logic that Republicans have been promoting for years: A series of specific benchmarks on enforcement--more border controls, more worksite inspectors, more deportation courts--have to be accomplished first before a legalization program can go into effect. That could easily put off legalization for several years. Plus the proposal envisions a zero-tolerance approach to those who run afoul of the immigration system by putting a variety of new sanctions in place.

On the other hand, the Democrats are offering a "provisional visa" for low-skilled workers that could get them permanent residence after six years. And, the proposed legalization program is more generous than many past schemes because it would cover every unauthorized migrant in the country at the time of enactment instead of just those who have been here for a number of years.

But, again, that is the opening bid from liberal Democrats. In order to become law it will have to attract some moderate Democrats and presumably a few Republicans at least, and that will require negotiating towards greater restriction, probably tightening up the provisional visa, limiting the legalization program and even more enforcement.

The Schumer proposal includes a measure that would block Arizona-like laws at the state and local level. That's what Saturday's marchers were seeking, but they might find it comes with a high price. Arizona's provocation did not produce any good options.

Roberto Suro is a professor at USC Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism and is author of "Strangers Among Us: Latino Lives in a Changing America".

 
 
 
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03:13 PM on 05/08/2010
Until the politicians in Washington, uphold a serious commitment to building the--REAL--fence(s), and not half-hearted attempt in misleading the American public.There will not be any form of immigration reform, if anti-amnesty organizations can stop its course? That first and foremost should be the THE REAL BORDER FENCE(S).That's plural as two fences? Beyond the gap of a thousand yards a second chain-link fence, used typically in the prison system topped with razor wire for the whole 2000 miles. Tracks between fences for the use of the border patrol and the the ABSENT ARMED NATIONAL GUARD. Instead the politicians who started the construction of the fence lied. They drafted the Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations bill, that specifically eliminated the main funding mandate of the Secure Fence Act of 2006 as a two layer fence. We spend 43 cents in every dollar fighting obscene wars in foreign countries, but the American people remain unprotected. Arizona has been under a relentless attack. Overrun with criminals of every category and uncountable illegal alien swarms. The state like many others are sliding towards bankruptcy because of the liberal doctrine of spreading Federal and state welfare to everybody. The feds hardly ever compensate states for money bled-off by foreign national entitlements as seen in the downward financial spiral of California.
03:13 PM on 05/08/2010
The real fence can be viewed in San Diego, covering just 50 miles and it has been successful in controlling both illegal immigrants and criminal activity. Our legislators have completely ignored our constitution that states, " The United States shall protect each of the states from invasion,” according to Article IV, Section 4. THAT IS THE TEXT OF THE US CONSTITUTION. And if 20 to 30 million illegal aliens occupying our soil, doesn't constitute an invasion--then pray tell me what does?Which instead the morons in the Capitol, have been intimidated by the President South of the border. Remember that those politicians in Washington and state level, along with Governors, Mayors and officials must be driven out of office, beginning with pro-amnesty Sen.Reid in the June primary election. Call your Representative at 202-224-3121 and demand their support of the state of Arizona or see the door in coming elections.
10:47 AM on 05/08/2010
how to solve the illegal alien crisis and the unemployment problem at the same time: the govt recruits volunteers to track down and deport every illegal here.....
10:44 AM on 05/08/2010
You said sb1070 was "nasty'......sb 1070 isnt nasty, or racist. For it to be racist, the law would have to specify which race to pick on. It doesnt. It applies to illegal Mongolians and Swedes.... everybody.

It is a geographic /historical coincidence that Arizona has a border with mexico, and thus most of the illegal immigrant problem will be with mexicans, or didnt you know?
10:39 AM on 05/08/2010
Mr. Suru, dont use the word immigration when you mean illegal immigration.
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10:16 AM on 05/08/2010
Mr. Suro decries the idea of enforcement first.

We all know that if any of the recently proposed bills were ever passed that any enforcement would be a joke. Heck Napolatano has already came out saying the border is pretty secure. So we would have amnesty, the funds for all enforcement would dry up. the rewards for illegals would remain and in another 20-30 years we would be looking at another amnesty for at least 20 million illegals. The same groups would be screaming for "their" rights. They would claim EITC for all their kids on their "back taxes" until we OWED them money. They would answer "yes" and be considered proficient in english.

What about most CITIZENS rights? You know one of the main jobs of our congress is the protection of the US from invasion. I hate to use that term but it is applicable. They come by the millions both illegally and legally because we have the most open and liberal immigration nujmbers in the world - by far. They whip up hysteria and try to claim racism to anyone who disagrees with them. They use our largess against us by spawning out anchors and demanding amnesty.

Enough - open borders folks had their day in 1986. We were promised amnesty would never happen again. Fraud was rampant in that one and will be much worse if we ever stoop that low again.
08:46 AM on 05/08/2010
The writer makes a good point, the Arizona law was a really good thing, no matter how it plays out.
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04:27 AM on 05/08/2010
I hate to say this but I don't give a flying flip what laws you put on the books...unless the physical border is sealed with a physical barrier that cannot be climbed over, cut through or tunneled under without extreme difficulty you might as well shovel all the sand out of the AZ desert with a teaspoon. You cannot seal the border with manpower and electronic gadgets. Once and intrusion is detected electronically you are pulling agents away from one spot on the border to another and leaving those other spots wide open and to put enough manpower along that type of terrain and patrol it properly, especially at night, is like trying to put out the great Chicago fire with a garden hose...You need that permanent physical barrier built and in place before even wasting the time and energy focussing on finding the people and deporting them. The "fence" has been okay but if you watch some of the films available, they manage to cut it without much problem with the right tools...barrier must come first or it will be an expensive exercise in futility in bailing water out of the boat while the hole in the hull still keeps letting the water in...
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12:26 AM on 05/08/2010
I am against any kind of 'legalization'. First off, we don't even know how many people are currently in the US illegally. Second, the last jump was from 3 million now to approx. 12 million, estimated. So, next time, 24 million, 48 million? I think that it's important not to cave on this issue, because especially urban areas that are already approaching elbow-to-elbow type population density, it's going to get very, very crowded. Further, it says that if you push the US hard enough, you'll get what you want regardless of what the public or the residents have to say about it, all you have to do is convince the President, and you can just bypass Congress.

Mexico wants in. This isn't just 3 people that hopped the fence, behind these folks are more, and more, and more, and...where's all that going to end up, exactly? Other countries, Mexico included, have a clear responsibility to support their own citizens. Neither Arizonans nor other state residents should have to put up with some kind of foreign-based rewrite of our laws.
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10:52 AM on 05/08/2010
You're right. This is an invasion. No other term comes close to describing it's consequences.

Mroeover, while most of our illegal aliens are just honest, hard working people merely in search of jobs, our obsolete laws literally guarantee increasingly poor outcomes for America the longer we keep them in place. These outcomes are made substantially worse by our Social Democrat Party. which hopes to import poverty, illiteracy, a third world culture, and votes by legalizing the 20+Million illegals.

While severe employer sanctions are essential to self deportation, the most essential change is repeal of the anchor baby provision of the 14th Amendment. Until this is changed, every other measure only serves the political ambitions of the left until Astlan or República Del Norte become the issue.
12:23 AM on 05/08/2010
"Top Democrats, including Sen. Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, are barely disguising their hope to use immigration to boost Latino voter turnout in the November election."

Unfortunately for the Democratic Party, their declaration of war against the unemployed American workers may backfire.
12:08 AM on 05/08/2010
I live along the border.The murder of Arizona rancher Rob Krentz by Illegals along the border and failure of the Fed Gov to enforce present immigration law and PROTECT the lives of American citizens prompted the Arizona law. If racial profiling or unconstitutionality is a legitimate concern, why aren’t politicians and activists demanding border security, which would make the state law unnecessary? Obviously, the real agenda is Legalization by those who apparently do not have any regard for victims of violence or human life. Pathetic
02:59 AM on 05/08/2010
The government does not want to sendthe illegals back. their is a devil's partnership (the ethnic lobby groups and the corporations) who don't care what the 70% of Americans want or desire. The one group only cares about their "ethnic brothers" and the other about cheap labor.I find myself physically sick at the fact that our treasonous governemnt is more concerned with illegal entrants than American citizens. We have 21% real unemployment and falling wages. We need more unskilled citizens like we need a nuclear attack.I am a working class American who along with many of my cohorts have lost alot due toi illegal and legal immigration.Well fairs fair, the governemnt (of whatever party) doesn't care about its own citizens. Well me and my freinds see no reason why we should have any allegaince to this so-called "democratic" government. it is a sham and it is treason. My ancestors built this country foir the last 00 years so I and would hae a better place to live. They did not clear forests and build a country for these illegals to come in (aided by criminal corporations) and take our jobs and lower ourwages. Let them build up there own country.
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11:16 PM on 05/07/2010
It is interesting that all the pro AZ law types here appear to be rabid law and order types, desperately worried about the moral fabric of our society, except they don't seem to have the same fervor for blaming, calling out or punishing the citizens of our country who commit the largest portion of the crimes in this country.

Not to mention that in spite of the fact that illegal border crossings are predominantly due to the demand of our fellow citizens for cheap labor and illegal drugs the pro AZ folks still focus almost all of their comments on the illegals personal traits. As if the illegals crossing have nothing to do with us except to offend us with their moral shortcomings, procreative proclivities and various similarities to insects and other non-human animals.

Given this utter lack of rationality...I have to wonder why pro AZ law types are so full of s**t.
02:47 AM on 05/08/2010
I am a lifelong liberal and Democrat and I too am opposed to the flood of illegals. The reason is that we cannot absorb such an influx and they drive down the wages of Americans in all segments of the workforce. It is NOT irrational at all to be offended by the fact that most of these people have committed a CRIME in breaking and entering into the USA. It is not their existence that is offensive, but their CRIME in spitting on our laws and democracy. Their origin or race is immaterial.
10:53 PM on 05/07/2010
i dont like to see these poor people blamed for the greed that buisness has exploited.how can anyone blame mexicans for this problem?they are desperate trying to get any possible job they can find.can you blame them?its our own greedy cheap employers who exploit this class of working people.they should be punished first and foremost.i used to like chuck shumer,but lately im thinking hes just another "bankster" who pretends to care about these poor folks on one hand,but behind closed doors he like the other greedy politicians just wants to keep things the same.that means pretend to be a champion of the exploited,but maintain the exploitation for maximum profit.
7 out of 10 mexican females are sexually abused by "coyotes" or smugglers.many others are beaten,blackmailed,murdered,die in the desert of no water.chuck shumer wants to keep it this way along with greedy right wingers.
to me its humane to enforce law and order.create work programs for them and punish employers HARSHLY for under the table or non registered workers.its the right thing to do.
to anyone who says chuck shumer wants to end this situation with amnesty, ask yourself what happens when you grant them all citizenship,do you think the problem is solved and the waves of exploited will stop, and the cycle is complete?of course not,more poor people are still screwed over and they will keep coming anyway they can.the exploitation goes on and on....
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11:22 PM on 05/07/2010
You have tunnel vision. Are the corporations a major part of the problem? Yes, they exploit people for cheaper wages and profits. Are the attitudes of the people comming here for better life a part of the problem? Yes, they immediatly apply for social programs they have not earned a right to. Do they reject the country they escaped from and begin to make the U S their new country. NO, they march chanting reconquista and display the flag of the country they just escaped from, and then add insult to injury by challenging the flag of our country right here on our soil. Do they show loyalty to America? No, they march and demand and scream racism, and send for their relitives.
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04:11 AM on 05/08/2010
If you are undocumented then how do you apply for "social programs"? Every state I know of that processes TANF requires a face-to-face interview along with identification to be processed and issued food stamps, financial aid or medicare....you simply cannot "call up" and get it and if you are in the US illegally it's the quickest way to get caught...the only way is the "anchor baby" issue. If AZ or any other border state is issuing TANF and WIC benefits to people without verifying their SS numbers or other identifying documents, they're idiots...In Florida you must have two documents that can be verified as authentic and appear for an in person interview before either TANF or WIC will be approved.
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03:28 AM on 05/08/2010
I ran a division of a company that supplied the builders in Phoenix. I would say that most big corporations that I have been in contact with have a lot to lose and try to stick with the e-verify system. many of the smaller sub-contractors that I know employ illegals.

Secondly E-Verify can be bypassed if the applicant has managed to procure a social security number that will pass cruitiny. They then only need forged photo ID. I screened job applicants for labor positions at my company and nine out of ten applicants had fake papers. Eventually the word got out and they stopped applying at our company.

Even under current laws it is a felony to attest that you are legal to work in the US. It is also a felony to sign off on an I-9 application knowing that the appliacnt is illegal.

The problem is extensive and if you do the math about 1 in 15 people in AZ are illegal. Half of all the boarder crossings into the US occur in teh Tucson sector. If you look at the Hispanic community in isolation then probably 1 in 6 hispanics in AZ are illegal.

I think the voracity of their protest is because they are aware of this and know that 20 odd percent of the Hispanics are going to land in hot water if their papers are subjected to close scrutiny.
10:02 PM on 05/07/2010
It is impossible to have any CIR if there is NOT a secure border and STRONG enforcement of our immigration laws. If this does not happen, then we will simply do an every decade amnesty bill since the flood of illegals will simply continue. CIR will not make illegals who want to come here get back in line and go through the proper channels. One would think that a person who is coming here illegally would at least get a passport before they started out. Indeed the whole point is to lose ones identity so that one can state who and what they are with no contradictions. Thus this is the refuge of many crooks.

Simple legalization will simply make American citizens out of hardened criminals as well. If there is any legalization, at the least the only documents allowed should be a passport, or Mexican voter ID card. The matricula is so insecure and fraud prone that Mexico does not accept them as valid IDs.

For illegals who are male and between the ages of 18-25, a draft registration card MUST be a requirement as well.
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09:58 PM on 05/07/2010
One has to look at the response of the mexican descent student regarding the 5 students wearing flag apparel. They demand those 5 to be suspended for offending them.

Offending them? by wearing the the US flag (lets get by the issue that the flag shouldn't be worn as apparel) in the US. And they are offended over a holiday promoted and marketed by beverage mfgs that isn't even a National Holiday in Mexico.

This example is why so many people are like sc rew them, and now will be in favor.