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Arizona v. USA: Hate Racism, Support Arizona

Posted: 04/26/2012 3:33 pm

As I type this, the Supreme Court has just wrapped a day of hearing arguments on the case of Arizona v. United States, concerning Arizona's immigration-related bill, SB 1070.

When it was originally passed, I was an immigrant resident of that state.

I received my greencard three years ago and received a letter from the Department of Homeland Security -- the same letter that is sent to thousands of new immigrants every week -- from which I quote:

We will soon mail you a new Permanent Resident Card... When you receive your card, you must carry it with you at all times if you are 18 older. It is the law.

Pretty clear.

While a permanent resident, I am here as a guest, and my carrying my "greencard" is a reasonable step on the path to becoming a proud American -- "reasonable" because any nation needs to know whom it lets in, as part of its responsibility to the security of its citizens.

My rights here depend on the rule and enforcement of law, applied equally to all, regardless of background or color. For that reason, the backlash against new state immigration laws is not in the true sense "liberal", per se. A liberal should support the rule of law that protects the security and the rights of its individual citizens.

I am pleased to see that it now seems that the Feds have decided not to push the "racial discrimination" objection to SB 1070. Not only is that bill blind to color and ethnicity: it specifically protects immigrants from being asked for documents without reasonable suspicion of a violation of law, including the very law of which I was notified when I became an immigrant. Therefore, SB 10707 offers immigrants a protection that is not offered to them in the "Welcome to America" letter I quoted at the top of this article.

Any racism around such laws must surely reside in the idea that we should not seek to enforce established law, or to do so equally, because we want to give a particular ethnic group -- singled out only because we assume rightly or wrongly, that group tends more than any other to violate that particular law (!) -- a pass on their legal obligations.

Evils can only be eliminated when honestly identified. Shouting "racism" where there is none seeks to promote division to the benefit of the group that makes the claim. That fact does not contradict the importance of ensuring that any law officer who seeks implement SB 1070 (or any other law, for that matter) with a bias for or against one race or community suffers the full force of the laws that already protect us all against that evil. And that, in turn, should not under any circumstances be set against the obligation of states like Arizona to protect their citizens from the very real and increasingly violent consequences of illegal immigration.

To be clear, the logic of the position of some of the Left concerning state crackdowns on illegal immigration seems to be, "the laws are unfair because they support discrimination against a particular group that is much more likely to be breaking that law -- even though the same law states that not even basic checks of identity (let alone arrest etc.) can be made until there is reasonable suspicion that the relevant law is being broken". What is meant is that as long as the group that violates a law has a racial identity, we should have no such law. That is to argue from race.

Certainly, America's immigration system needs radical reform to allow more good, hard-working people of whatever origin to contribute to the USA, and as something of a classical liberal, I see the benefits of much more open borders, but those who really want to help immigrants should first learn about the current "legal" immigration system that incentivizes illegal immigration.

It is my fantasy to sit one day as a witness in a Congressional Committee on immigration, and to tell of the 700 pages I had to compile each time I renewed my visa; the $200 I had to pay for a photocopy of one sheet of paper from the Department of Homeland Security; the fact that even after I paid, the DHS didn't send me that document for 200 days, until someone who knew someone made a call to a "special number" etc..

I would tell the Committee that the immigration problem is not so difficult to solve. Secure the border simply because security is the first duty of government, and then do the following.

First, prohibit anyone who has committed a visa/immigration violation from ever becoming a permanent resident (and therefore citizen) of the country. A violator who has American family here may remain only under rolling sponsorship of their American spouse.

This is critical as it will change the incentive calculus for illegal immigrants, and will deal with one of the most important immigration statistics that you have never heard: from 2000 to 2007, two thirds of all legal Mexican immigrants (who represented 35% of all immigrants to the USA) were once here illegally! Those immigrants are making completely rational choices given the system we have, and for commendable reasons. The fault is not with them. It is with us as Americans. This two-thirds compares with the mere 9 percent of all immigrants who become immigrants legally through work. (Yes, 9 percent.)

Second, limit family-based immigration to immediate family only. Allow a new citizen to sponsor only his spouse and children into the country - and perhaps, if he can prove the means to support them, elderly parents when they need care. No more uncles, aunties, cousins, grandmothers etc.. through repeated application of family sponsorship by new immigrants.

Third, send a test case to the Supreme Court regarding the 14th amendment, which states,
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

This amendment was passed in 1868 to ensure that all persons, including slaves and their progeny, could be citizens of the nation. Children of diplomats, foreign visitors or similar aliens are not included. Nor was the amendment intended to extend to children of illegal immigrants who perhaps more than any, are not subject to the jurisdiction of this country.

All the while, we can recognize our moral and civic responsibility to those who were brought here "illegally" as minors to let them settle as American citizens. That benefit need not be extended to those parents who brought them here, although we might wish to allow these new citizens to sponsor their parents to stay on a rolling basis?

Let's finally get to the question of the constitutionality of states' legal efforts to protect themselves from illegal immigration: if such laws are unconstitutional, they must be struck down for that reason alone. But it is the height of hypocrisy by the Federal government, which fails every day in hundreds of ways to act within the confines of the Constitution, to bring suit on such a basis. So once the suits against the states are done, I hope that every state in the Union should take at face value the Federal government's newly found interest in the Constitution, and sue it to force it to meet its own obligations.

They can begin by following Virginia in establishing a state law that protects the basic civil rights of citizens against the anti-Bill of Rights abuses as are contained in the National Defense Authorization Act.

Indeed, we might dare to hope that Gov. Brewer keeps her backbone and signs the very similar bill that is probably sitting on her desk right now. If she does, she'll be surprised by the support she has the next time she has reason to visit the Supreme Court.

 

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12:41 PM on 04/30/2012
Mr. Koerner,

SB 1070 necessitates and legitimates racial profiling and discrimination. I suspect your relatively recent patriotism would be tarnished substantially if you were a Mexican-American in Arizona. It's very easy to surrender another's civil liberties, isn't it? But not honorable or just. To some, SB 1070 contains more than a hint of that which was more boldly declared by your countryman, Enoch Powers, in his “Rivers of Blood” speech.

There is no Federal equivalent for SB 1070's imposition of harsh criminal penalties for those who fail to carry, at all times, registration documents. There is no Federal equivalent of Arizona's requirement for police verification of immigration status based on a reasonable suspicion. Therefore, the “protection” you claim SB 1070 provides is in actuality a “violation”, or at the very least, a “reduction” of rights. As to the quality of the adjudicators of said "reasonable suspicion": on 12/15/2011, the DOJ released a report documenting its three year investigation into Arizona’s own Sheriff Arpaio and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. It alleges that Sheriff Arpaio and the MCSO, have systematically engaged in "unconstitutional policing" since 2008.

A few notes: those with immigration violations normally cannot become Perm. Residents or Citizens. A US Citizen cannot even now sponsor his "uncles" or "aunts" as you claim possible. Regarding your desire to end Jus Soli, I suggest you review the 2012 National Foundation for American Policy report which highlights several reasons why it would be unjust and unpractical to amend.
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Robin Koerner
05:00 AM on 05/01/2012
Obviously, I disagree with your first sentence. You should read the law. It does NOT necessitate racial profiling. If I'm wrong, please quote the sentence(s) that state(s) that requirement.

I'm not arguing that racial profiling is not a problem in the US. But to say it is necessitated by SB1070 and similar is absurd to me. If you have read my work, you will know that I am more concerned with civil liberties than most people in this nation. If it is easy to surrender others' civil liberties - something that the very Federal government that is suing AZ is doing every day through such awful legislation as Patriot Act, NDAA etc. etc. - please do not lay that at my feet. As you say, it is not honorable or just.

You are right to pull me up on the extended family sponsorship. Rereading, what I wrote was misleading. I was speaking to the fact that over time extended families are definitely brought in by repeated application of immediate family sponsorship... and you get aunts and grandparents etc...

Most importantly, your last paragraph is wrong. Of all legal Mexican immigrants – who alone represented 35% of all legal immigration to the USA between 2000 and 2007 - two thirds were once here illegally: about 85% of those had entered illegally, while the remainder violated their visa conditions. See http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back106.html for sources. This article includes data on legalization of illegal immigrants years going back decades.
06:02 PM on 05/01/2012
"SB 1070 necessitates and legitimates racial profiling and discrimination."

Do you know the law when it comes to "racial profiling"? Tell us how 1070 is illegal under current Supreme Court precedent.

P.S. What form(s) of immigration law enforcement (if any) do you support?
04:38 PM on 04/29/2012
well said. say it LOUDER
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Zonie
Right & Left are part of a whole. Divided we die.
08:25 PM on 04/27/2012
Slam dunk Robin Koerner. I can't recall a better article anywhere...If they don`t get it after reading your thoughts here....they do not wish to and they nevet will.
Welcome home Robin...you so know that American citizenship has value..
And you value it...and you RESPECT it.
.And it has responsibility...that you clearly
understand...
As an Arizonan...Tell you this...the folks at the,DOJ who brought suit againsr the people of Arizona...folks,like me...well they could learn a lot from you...about the VALUE of citizenship
and the rule of law..
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jweider
I know where my towel is
02:27 PM on 04/27/2012
Great article. I'm really surprised that HP allowed it to be published on their site.
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Czechster
Enough is enough
12:14 PM on 04/27/2012
This is a well written article and I will be sending it to my Congressmen. As a resident of Texas I know all to well the extreme finacial burden the illegals have thrusted on the United States citizen.
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looneydoone
not a "cookie"
11:32 AM on 04/27/2012
"Reasonable" to you Robin Koerner, only because you, *look* like a "real 'Merican" to the nativists and bigots that support demanding "your papers please" legislation that clearly (and conveniently) overlooks the fact *illegals* are not only those who appear Latino. How many Asians, Blacks and those who appear Western/Euro are slipping through the cracks, unnoticed ?

The greatest surge in illegal entry (from Mexico) occurred 1994-2003 during the Clinton and GW Bush Administrations, 9 to 18 years ago. Ithas declined every year since. Today that number is at a historic 40 year low. That unprecedented illegal entry was spurred by implementation of NAFTA and the Mexican peso crisis engineered by USA banks......unlikely ever to be repeated.
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Russg
06:51 PM on 04/27/2012
He make look that way, but once he opens his mouth he certainly doesn't sound that way. His accent very clearly reveals him as somebody not born in the USA. This isn't a bad thing, of course, it gives Robin a unique perspective when examining these issues. For the most part, American citizens (those born in the US) don't have enough information about or perspective regarding the immigration system to identify its shortfalls. Those who have worked their way through the system, however, do.
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looneydoone
not a "cookie"
07:07 PM on 04/27/2012
This Native American has been mistaken for "foreign" and asked for papers on more than one occasion. Tell me again, why I (and others like myself) should find it necessary to carry our USA Passports inside the country of our birth as insurance against being trotted off to a detention center until the matter of "legality" has been satisfied ??
04:40 PM on 04/29/2012
travel to europe and see if any countries there require visitors to keep their travel documents on their person at all times.
you know where you can shove you open borders liberalism dont you?
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looneydoone
not a "cookie"
05:35 PM on 04/29/2012
I'm not discussing "visitors" to the USA, Mr Campbell. I am speaking of native born citizens of the USA, like myself who find it necessary to carry our US Passports with us at all times as insurance against being carted off to a detention center and waiting for our legal status to be confirmed I hear Scotland is lovely, why did you leave ? I have never advocated for "open borders"...and you Mr Campbell, are an "illegal squatter" on our lands
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Hoodooman
Non-Aggression Principle
11:07 PM on 04/26/2012
I do support AZ - I can only pray that CA will wake up and create our own SB1070.
10:09 PM on 04/26/2012
The term naturalized in the 14Th amendmant refer to slaves who were bought into the United States not just born were to be given the rights of citizenship.All people residing in the United States besides Diplomats or foriegn nationals representing their countries are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States laws.The Amendmant say those born in the United States are considered citizens and just because their parents are here illegally does not take away the fact that they are under the jrisdiction of our laws.This give citizenship to children of illegals born in the United States.my thoughts on that subject.
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dtairtime
It is what it is
01:19 AM on 04/27/2012
Not true.

http://www.14thamendment.us/articles/anchor_babies_unconstitutionality.html

That link will educate you to the EXACT words of the authors of the 14th, not some open borders interpretation of how they want it to be.

As for jurisdictions think for a second about illegals/diplomats and were they are in relation to each other, citizens and jurisdiction.

Illegals are almost identical to diplomats and quite detached from citizens.
1. They can't vote - legally.
2. They can't serve on a jury.
3. They don't have to register with selective service.
4. If the draft were re-instated they would not be called for duty.
5. They can be represented by their country on all legal matters.
6. They must leave if their country demands it.
7. They can be removed from this country at any time and for no other reason then they are here.
8. They can't get most social programs directly - legally anyway although most do via anchors.
9. They can't be stopped from leaving the country because they are not citizens.
10. They can own property in their countries - many of which forbid citizens of this country from doing.
11. They can vote in many of the countries elections that they are citizens of.

This is just a start. ALL of these things are the EXACT same as diplomats and the EXACT opposite of citizens. With the exception of diplomats not facing certain punishment for certain offenses they are identical.
07:05 AM on 04/27/2012
Illegal aliens must conform to all laws of The United Staes or they can be charged with a crime and prosecuted in a court of law without the benifits of immunity claims by diplomats or foriegn representative who can only be removed from the country .I stand by the fact that naturalization means exactly what I say it meant in the constitution which is that all slaves in the country whether born here or not were citizens of the United States.
05:49 PM on 04/26/2012
Well, I've been a resident of AZ for OVER 35 years. I'm a white, left-leaning Independent woman, who was NEVER a Republican, but did used to be a Democrat. ---------- AZ has needed this law for a long time. It was reported last night on a CBS Eveniing News piece that we, the TAXPAYING RESIDENTS OF AZ, pay OVER $900,000,000 (that's MILLION) dollars A YEAR for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in OUR state (that's after deducting the tax contributions that they make to our state). That's 900 MILLION DOLLARS that could be spent on the education of the LEGAL children in this state. All I would say is ------- until you've walked in our shoes, and had to put up with the crime, traffic accidents & deaths (where the illegal frequently kills someone & runs off), theft of your homes, vehicles & offices, drop houses, funding illegals healthcare needs, etc., etc. --- DON'T JUDGE OUR STATE LAWS. If you're LEGALLY in this country & in OUR state, we have no problem ------- if you're not, all we want you to do is move on.
11:00 PM on 04/26/2012
Well said!
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looneydoone
not a "cookie"
11:38 AM on 04/27/2012
AZ "paying 900 million tax dollars a year on illegal immigrants " ????
Best/ highest estimates, are AZ "illegals number approx 500,000...........you're paying millions for each one ??
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Czechster
Enough is enough
12:12 PM on 04/27/2012
The illegals have created a bureaucracy of high paid public employees who have to speak Tex-Mex in order to serve the interest of the Hispanic organizations. The figure includes major loses due to lack of liability due to their economic status.
05:37 PM on 04/26/2012
You, sir, are awesome.
05:14 PM on 04/26/2012
While I agree with Mr. Koerner that our immigration laws need to be enforced I think his argument is very Polly Annaish. It is obvious that Mr. Koerner has never been a victim of driving or shopping or walking while black or brown. I wish we did live in an America where color doesn’t matter but it does and in all forms of treatments that light skinned invidividuals couldn't even think of.
06:12 PM on 04/26/2012
Actually the fact is the law protects those who may be profiled and makes sure that they will not suffer. There was the case of a Hispanic truck driver stopped at an AZ weight station who was arrested despite having a valid AZ drivers license. He was arrested because the officer thought he had an accent to his English. This was prior to the new law which makes the AZ drivers license prima facia evidence of legal residency. His wife had to get both their birth certificates, drive to the ICE detention facility and get her husband out Under SB 1070, if the cop did that he would be immediately fired, get sued and lose a lot of money and his job. The law cuts BOTH ways which is a mark of its fairness.
04:30 AM on 04/27/2012
Arizona’s requirement that police check the immigration status of people they arrest or detain is open to all kinds of abuse even in you example. The many simple traffic stops for a light out on your car and all of a sudden your valid drivers license looks like it is fake and now you have to prove someohter way from jail that you are a citizen. No thank you AZ, sold my winter home in Carefree when the bill first passed and moved on.
04:52 PM on 04/26/2012
While you are correct on most points, the fact is that the 14th amendment applies to ALL who are born here since even illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of US laws. In fact, the only persons NOT covered are those who are diplomats and their covered families since they are NOT bound by our laws in any way since they have diplomatic immunity. You should know that even illegals MUST register with Selective Service for the draft, thus any of their children born here are automatically US citizens, even visitors who give birth here have their children registered as US citizens.

If you are looking to the SCOTUS for changing that, you will be disappointed since that court is the one which overruled various US laws that sought to abridge the rights under the 14th.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
05:27 PM on 04/26/2012
Scotus won't and can't change it. It would have to be done via constitutonal amendment.
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Vintage59
Seeking tickets to First Class
03:47 PM on 04/26/2012
Just get out.
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looneydoone
not a "cookie"
11:44 AM on 04/27/2012
>>"Just get out"

We've been saying that since 1608 vintage59.....did *you* listen ? Nope.