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When Pro-Life Is Pro-Choice

Posted: 02/ 7/2012 10:44 am

I am strongly pro-choice. On this conviction, I differ from the candidate whom I am supporting for president in 2012, and whom I am suggesting liberals everywhere support.

Many of those liberals who most strongly disagree with the Blue Republicans -- former Obama supporters, Democrats and Independents, who support Ron Paul for president in 2012, revert to a single argument against him: that he is pro-life and this will have terrible consequences for the reproductive rights of women in the USA.

I've really not wanted to engage this as, on the one hand, it seems to be such an extraordinary (sometimes I think deliberate) misunderstanding of Paul's politics as to be not serious, and, on the other, abortion is such an emotive subject, I can't imagine any writer gaining more readers than he loses by writing about it.

But since this matters so much -- as this misunderstanding is now standing in the way of remaking our country -- I'm going to engage it this once, and damn the torpedoes.

On the abortion issue, Ron Paul is pro-life. He believes human life begins at conception. But his entire political, indeed philosophical, worldview, is pro-choice. He believes that he does not get to impose his views using the force of federal law on a nation that might disagree with him -- especially in areas in which the Constitution does not give him that authority.

In other words, were someone of Ron Paul's views to win the presidency, there would be no federal action to prevent you from having a safe abortion. He is on the record. For most pro-choicers, that should put the issue to rest -- but it doesn't, because as other progressives rightly point out, under a Paul presidency, some states could make abortions illegal.

That is indeed the "worst case." But any liberal should be able to see that this worst case, taken in its entirety is better than the present situation, for multiple reasons.

1) If you allow this issue to be legislated at the national level, then a Republican majority or president with a large neocon or religious-right base will be able to reverse that legislation to ban abortion nationwide. The only way to guarantee that safe abortions will always be available in the USA for more than one Congress or presidency is to push this issue to the states in the spirit of the Constitution. Then, even the possibility of a nationwide ban on abortion disappears.
2) It is easier to reverse bad policy at the state level than the federal level through public pressure.
3) There is nothing liberal or humane about requiring those who sincerely disagree with us on abortion to subsidize our practices -- just as there is nothing liberal or humane about those who like unnecessary wars to force us to pay for them. In particular, if we are concerned about the rights of women, we shouldn't be asking women who disagree with us to subsidize our views.
4) The very worst (and frankly, extremely unlikely) case under a Paul presidency is that a poor woman would have to cross a state line to get an abortion. However, this worst-case scenario comes with the benefit of the reinstitution of the Bill of Rights, the end of killing innocent people in foreign countries, the end of indefinite incarceration without trial of Americans, the end of bank bailouts, the end of spending money abroad that should be spent at home, the end of government agents listening into your private conversations, the end of government by corporate lobbyists, and so on and so on.

In other words, if you don't vote for Ron Paul because of the abortion issue, then you cannot claim to be a progressive or liberal in any sense. You are a single-issue voter, which means, I am afraid, that you don't care about everything else that is going on in your country that is destroying the lives of the very same women whose right to an abortion you wish to protect. That does not make you a progressive; it does not make you a feminist and it certainly does not make you a liberal.

But since I agree with you that America should be a country in which all women have access to safe abortions, I would also pledge to support a charity that would pay for poor women in Mississippi -- to use an example that was suggested to me in a radio interview -- to travel across state lines to get the safe abortion they require.

The point of course, is there is no charity that could stop the government from killing people in undeclared wars, or bailing out crony corporatists, or making laws that favors well-funded lobbies or, cause federal agencies to follow again the Bill of Rights.

Vote Obama in 2012 and you'll get your federally mandated right to an abortion -- and you'll lose (or more accurately, fail to get back) every other Constitutional right you are supposed to have.

If I have to spell it out, under a Paul presidency, no woman would have to forego an abortion. Under the presidency of any other candidate, every woman has to forego the right to privacy, to due process before detention, to not participate financially in the killing of innocent people abroad, to not have her wealth transferred to rich guys who run banks and know other rich guys, to not have her conversations listened to by government authorities, and so on.

Do you see the asymmetry? Do you see how this is a matter of priorities?

I would like the USA to be the live-and-let-live country it was supposed to be.

Let us as liberals be true and consistent in our principles. The only way in which our pro-choice views directly impinge on others is by forcibly taking money from them to pay for things we want. We should no more need to use the monopoly of force of government in that way than should any religionist use it to prevent a gay couple from making a life-long commitment and calling it whatever they want, including "marriage." And if the religionists don't believe it's "a real marriage," let them call it whatever they want, too. And we can ignore them. And so on.

Paul's pro-life views are personal. The country needs to understand that a leader can hold a view fervently without having to impose it on the country as national policy.

Indeed, that is precisely what the Constitution requires him -- or her -- to do.

 

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10:00 PM on 03/25/2012
Many women impose these thoughts on the child they can't bring themselves to give a better life to, and you end up with children who have been rejected by their mothers, who simultaneously won't be relinquished by them. There are enough 'unloved' children in this world who could have been adopted without adding to the number, and making life worse for the newly born. Rather than give birth to a child I was not confident I could love and adequately take care of, I would rather have an abortion... and I would never think to take that difficult right away from my fellow woman... and, having once been such a doctor and handling these cases first hand, Ron Paul feels the same damn way.
10:23 PM on 03/07/2012
You were right, lots of single-issue voters here firing torpedoes at will. The article is very well written and explains Paul's position very well. Wanna see social and economic equality brought back to the nation, only man who is going to do it is Paul.

All these people bitching about how 'ineffectual' he would be is nothing but the same fear blather, "he can't win" mentality that perpetuates the problems we have in America. Right here, right now we as citizens have an opportunity to throw our support behind a man who would truly act in his role as a servant of the Constitution, yet people would rather vote for someone else because the only honest man "can't win".

America has become quite jaded in its apathy.
01:46 PM on 02/27/2012
I'm sorry, but I can't buy your argument that his personal opinions wouldn't have an impact on federal legislation.

Paul signed the anti-abortion pledge.

"I PLEDGE that I will only support candidates for President who are committed to protecting Life. I demand that any candidate I support commit to these positions:

FIRST, to nominate to the U.S. federal bench judges who are committed to restraint and applying the original meaning of the Constitution, not legislating from the bench;

SECOND, to select only pro-life appointees for relevant Cabinet and Executive Branch positions, in particular the head of National Institutes of Health, the Department of Justice, and the Department of Health & Human Services;

THIRD, to advance pro-life legislation to permanently end all taxpayer funding of abortion in all domestic and international spending programs, and defund Planned Parenthood and all other contractors and recipients of federal funds with affiliates that perform or fund abortions;

FOURTH, advance and sign into law a Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act to protect unborn children who are capable of feeling pain from abortion."

He has agreed to appoint anti-abortion justices.

As a proud owner of a uterus, I can not support this guy, and I'm shocked that any liberal leaning individuals can reconcile Paul's position with their own ideals.
02:02 AM on 03/12/2012
I'm a liberal leaning individual. I voted for Obama four years ago. I'm never making that mistake again. But it really shouldn't be surprising or shocking at all that people can reconcile their own ideals with Paul's. On foreign policy he is the candidate the is more for peace than any other, republican or democrat. There's truly little argument there. What you have is fear mongering by the same people who wanted you to think Iraq definitely had WMD's and it was "thank god for us americans that we went in there and blew the bejesus out of them". Paul has been coming out against this for decades now.
02:05 AM on 03/12/2012
Monetary policy? Do your homework, it's worth it. Nobody else is even talking about honest money, ending the income tax so you can keep a third more of your paycheck, and the grave perils of unchecked central banking. He is so dead on it's not even funny. I encourage all progressives/dems/liberals to give ESPECIALLY this aspect of his platform a thorough review!
10:28 AM on 02/11/2012
Its all a moot point. Paul has nowhere near enough support to win the Republican nomination, and if he runs as a third party candidate then he has just handed President Obama a second term on a silver platter. You can talk about Paul's revolution all you want, but he simply does not have the votes. Talk about simple math.
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02:35 AM on 02/26/2012
You must not be paying attention to his delegate counts. Even the media has sad, once the caucus states award their delegates, that Paul will likely be in second place.
12:23 AM on 02/09/2012
Paul's pro-life views might be are personal, his signing this pledge not so much.
"FIRST, to nominate to the U.S. federal bench judges who are committed to restraint and applying the original meaning of the Constitution, not legislating from the bench;

SECOND, to select only pro-life appointees for relevant Cabinet and Executive Branch positions, in particular the head of National Institutes of Health, the Department of Justice, and the Department of Health & Human Services;

THIRD, to advance pro-life legislation to permanently end all taxpayer funding of abortion in all domestic and international spending programs, and defund Planned Parenthood and all other contractors and recipients of federal funds with affiliates that perform or fund abortions;"

http://www.sba-list.org/2012pledge
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12:12 AM on 02/09/2012
"The very worst (and frankly, extremely unlikely) case under a Paul presidency is that a poor woman would have to cross a state line to get an abortion. "
Really? and what if a poor women can't afford to cross a state line? or several state lines? or can't afford to take some days off to get to an other state, have an abortion there and get back?
Are you going to help her to pay the costs? Remember, not all states are so small that you practically can walk to the next one.
Not to mention that Paul signed the pro-life pledge to select only only pro-life appointees and advance pro-life legislation..
http://www.sba-list.org/sites/default/files/content/shared/ron_paul_signed_pledge.jpg
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Stevede
From theory to fact requires only evidence.
11:35 PM on 02/08/2012
Great article, sadly some liberals are to brainwashed to see even logic even when it is set before them in as simply as 1+1=2
12:12 AM on 02/09/2012
Huh?
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Stevede
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01:13 AM on 02/09/2012
I am going to assume I was not clear and concise enough and you are not simply validating my post.

I will be a bit more blunt then.

Some people are to stupid and brainwashed to understand the simple math here in this article, the good from a Paul presidency FAR and away exceeds any bad that could come from it.

A small example of the simple math that some are to stupid or brainwashed to grasp is this in a nutshell.

100s of thousands to MILLIONs of innocent lives lost is a infinitely more important than the hundreds or thousands that have to go to another state or give a child up for adoption rather than murder a child if they were to careless or lazy to take a morning after pill.
10:35 PM on 02/08/2012
omg baby murder might be outlawed, run for the hills!
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BuckJ
I read a book once.
03:28 PM on 02/08/2012
"However, this worst-case scenario comes with the benefit of the reinstitution of the Bill of Rights,"

Paul would work to deny recourse to the federal courts if the Bill of Rights is violated by state or local governments. Secondly, a Paul Presidency would institute nothing. He would, at best, not exercise the powers already granted the Presidency, and veto any attempts to strengthen those powers (futilely I might add...check the numbers on the NDAA vote). The laws would remain until either the courts overturned them or Congress repeals them. (That's without getting into the possibility of the federal government being sued by local governments who demand that the President execute the current law.)

"In other words, if you don't vote for Ron Paul because of the abortion issue, then you cannot claim to be a progressive or liberal in any sense."

False dilemma.
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Stevede
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11:41 PM on 02/08/2012
Incorrect, under a Paul presidency many more in congress would be replaced in short order as for the first time in recent history you would have a truly constitutional president who would use his stump to call out the frauds in congress on both sides of the isle.

Many would fall in line simply out of fear of being recalled by their constituents, others would be recalled. The end of the wars would massive flux of public support that would give him more power in the sense of outside pressure then any president in recent history.
12:15 AM on 02/09/2012
How exactly would "under a Paul presidency many more in congress ..be replaced in short order "?
Dream on..
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missy mitten
03:07 PM on 02/09/2012
Paul is going to replace congress? Do tell. How is he going to do that? "Many would fall in line simply out of fear". Oh, right. That fear thing you conservatives are so good at. So Ron Paul is going to just get elected and instill fear into congress? That's that plan? And if they aren't scared, he's just going to get rid of them? You failed your eighth grade civics class, didn't you?
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missy mitten
03:15 PM on 02/08/2012
You seem to forget that Ron Paul signed a personhood pledge which would protect a zygote as a person under the 14th Amendment. That keeps it federal.

Ignoring that, Ron Paul by signing the personhood pledge gets his way, Roe vs. Wade is overturned and it's left up to the states. We've already seen dozens of states vehemently push for more abortion regulation so it wouldn't take long for many states to completely criminalize it.

Now we have a situation where large swathes of the country have outlawed abortion. As you may know, when abortion is made illegal, abortion rates do not go down, they go up. So now the poor in many of these patriarchal Christian dominated states are facing murder charges because they got pregnant and had an abortion. And you say it's as simple as crossing state lines to prevent this? Let's say you live in Alabama and the closest place to get an abortion is Chicago. Or you live in Wyoming and the closest place to get one is Seattle. You're one of the millions of women living at poverty level. Just cross a state line? Are you serious?

So now we've got privatized for profit prisons locking women up by the tens of thousands, because if you look at abortion rates, that's how many women would be getting illegal abortions, and huge corporate Christian groups keep funding politicians who keep abortion illegal for profit.

Your ideas are bad.
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ivorykeys87
03:05 AM on 02/26/2012
Thank god there aren't more pressing issues in this country to be dealt with. I though it would be difficult to choose who i was going to support.

"Who cares if I don't have a job, gas goes to $5 a gallon, and I have to rely on government for everything (and, as a result, fear having said support taken away at any time) JUST GIMME MY ABORTIONS AND EVERYTHING WILL BE OK!"

I am pro-choice, and am a Paul supporter, but this abortion discussion is getting tired, when compared to EVERYTHING ELSE this country faces in the coming years. I know Paul won't win, but i will continue to support and vote for him (if it means writing his name in). And when this country continues down its reckless path regardless of who else is in office, at least i will be able to say, "I didn't vote for that puppet".
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missy mitten
09:38 PM on 02/27/2012
I really don't care what you think.
12:17 PM on 02/08/2012
Great article. I cannot help but think that the same argument also applies to about 80% of what the Federal government does.
09:19 AM on 02/08/2012
I can't say that I agree with a number of points in this article, I take issue with point 3 particularly. I understand that pro-choice/pro-life is a personal view, however, as someone who is pro-choice I believe that it is a woman's right to have access to this kind of medical treatment. As someone with personal experience with the nightmare that is abortion I find it extremely worrisome that a loved one of mine would have to seek illegal/illegitimate/dangerous means in order to receive a safe abortion. So while you might not like paying for it, this tax money could literally be a lifesaver for plenty of women. If you take issue with that, we just simply don't agree, but I really have a problem with saying that I am not a progressive, liberal, or a feminist because of that train of thought.

The article assumes that this is the sole problem with Paul which I find pretty funny. My larger issue with him actually is in regards to his stance in dissolving the DOE. Look at what's going on right now in Arizona with the banning of ethnic studies. Even with the federal institution we are having an issue, which is a state-wide problem and in my mind a great example of lousy policy, however I don't see the public outcry having much of an impact at the present moment. If that doesn't show disastrous potential, I don't know what does.
04:49 PM on 02/08/2012
It is dangerous to drive across a state line? That's new to me.

Has education improved since the DOE? No it has not. It has declined.

No Child Left Behind was federal involvement in education, do you agree with that?
12:17 AM on 02/09/2012
Not necessarily dangerous to cross state lines, but it is an unnecessary extra burden. Specially if you live far from the state line or you have to cross a couple of them.
06:37 AM on 02/08/2012
Thanks for articulating this, Mr. Koerner. My belief structure seems to be in mathematical precision with yours. If only the majority of Americans could understand the value and genius contained within the Constitution, if only more people cared about the destruction of individual freedom by a federal government that erodes the precious rights it was meant to protect, simple shifts could be made to business-as-usual and our society might evolve to something of an advanced and freedom loving culture of the future. We must end the tyranny of the out-of-control US federal (un-American) empire by restoring the Constitution's authority, removing federal control, thereby, returning the power to states and individuals. Perhaps in realizing that there can never be a single national standard to resonate with everyone's beliefs, in regard to abortion and other hot-button issues, maybe we will understand the benefit of allowing each state to reflect the sentiment of the residents within it's own territory while respecting that those of others might differ.
03:14 AM on 02/08/2012
I am pro-life I also believe abortion should be legal.Abortion will never stop all we can do is make it safe.Has anyone ever seen a movie called dirty dancing, what was depicted in that movie is an accurate depiction of what would transpire if abortion was illegal
07:56 PM on 02/07/2012
HOLY SHIT! A RON PAUL PRESIDENCY ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE?! AAAUUGGHHH
12:17 AM on 02/09/2012
No, it doesn't..
01:14 PM on 02/09/2012
keep trying, eventually it will
01:24 AM on 03/12/2012
Yes, it really does.