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Obama Rejects Medicare Age Increase: Stresses Jobs, Fair Taxes

Posted: 09/19/11 11:47 AM ET

The Wall Street Journal and other media are reporting definitively on the Obama deficit plan to be announced on Monday. The big news: the President will not propose raising the Medicare eligibility age. So the millions of older workers and unemployed people now desperately trying to hold on until they reach age 65 will not end up resenting Democrats for trying to make a difficult life even more difficult. And young people without pensions will enjoy a little more confidence that one party is on their side.

After today, the policy choice will be even clearer: Almost all Republicans voted for the Ryan plan to dismantle Medicare. And now Democrats can clearly say they will fight any attempt to cut Medicare benefits or raise the Medicare eligibility age.

Coming after the President's $447 billion jobs plan, unveiled in his September 8 address to a joint session of Congress, many progressives were worried that the President in Monday's speech on deficits would break his jobs momentum. We feared Obama would revert to the offers he made to Republicans in a futile effort to reach a "grand bargain" during negotiations over raising the debt ceiling.

Organized under the banner of the Strengthen Social Security campaign, hundreds of groups representing labor, women, African-Americans, Latinos, youth and policy advocates,had previously managed to get the White House to assure them that Social Security -- which contributes not a dime to the deficit -- will not be on the list for cuts, even though the President had previously made the Republicans an offer to tamper with the index by which annual benefit cuts are calculated in a way that would cut Social Security benefits. But those same groups kept the pressure on, demanding no structural changes to Medicare -- or damaging cuts to Medicaid.

If reports are accurate, the President now has a plan he can take to the American people, not just Washington pundits or the Super Committee. The President has listened to the people. He is pushing for jobs and growth now -- the number one priority of Americans. You can question whether his economic recovery plan will do the job, but there is no doubt that his jobs plan goes generally in the right direction, compared to the bankrupt conservative program. Now that he is not trying to placate conservative "entitlement hawks," he is now more free to talk about deficit reduction in a way that prioritizes growth and putting people to work -- and turning the unemployed into taxpayers. Obama and his aides are very clear that tax increased and spending cuts should come only after economic growth and job creation is firmly established.

The President can now join with Congressional Democrats to strongly defend Social Security and Medicare. Combined with his jobs proposals, the new Obama economic message makes sense and deserves our praise. Over the longer term, America must further reform a wasteful health care system, but the President knows that the country would end up paying more for healthcare if we allow conservatives to cut Medicare benefits or raising the age of eligibility.

Combined, the President has laid about a program that he can take to the American people - and if the Super Committee does not embrace it -- there is now a much better chance that it will make sense to the voters in 2012.

 

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wizeanne
wizeanne
06:42 AM on 09/20/2011
Too little...too late!! I voted for Obama the first time, believing in "Hope and Change and Yes we can." campaign slogans. We'd been duped by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice for 8 years and the economy was in shambles, our industries/manufacturing moved overseas, and bailing out Wall Street..at tax payers expense, a trillion dollar deficit, and a war of choice in Iraq and false flags. But as soon as President Obama took office and seeing who he put in his cabinet, administration and advisors was the first indication that convinced me he was following in the same path of "W" Bush.

As Franklin D. Roosevelt said, "Presidents are selected...NOT elected," As a past few Presidents and leaders such as Eisenhower, JFK and Martin L. King recognised and had the courage to warn us, of the invisble power, more powerful than this nation itself, who controls the government. It's an elite group/cartel with extreme wealth who own the Wall Street banks, manufacturing industries and corporations with the "True Power" running this country by huge donations and their lobbyist throwing the money at politicians and choose our President and members of Congressmen/women.
They just rotate between Republicans and Democrats who follow their "agenda."

I won't be duped again by slick campaign slogans and empty promises by either parties. It's a "private club" and 99% of the American people aren't in it. People had better wake up real fast.
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02:53 AM on 09/20/2011
I wish I could be as hopeful as the author of this article. It must feel great. Personally, I think all this pretty Obama-talk is nothing more than pre-election pillow talk. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt with the bus tracks across the back.
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Reaganite60
Don't tread on me.
11:07 PM on 09/19/2011
Those who oppose Medicare reforms are in support of seeing it go bankrupt.
FloridaGuy50
Making sure that Obama Is a one term president
12:22 AM on 09/20/2011
It Is going bankrupt?
06:10 PM on 09/19/2011
"The President can now join with Congressional Democrats to strongly defend Social Security and Medicare"

It's fairly easy to defend SS but Medicare is a beast and nothing the President has put out nor the feeling that Medicare works adds up . . .

Consider an average-wage, two-earner couple together earning $89,000 a year. Upon retiring in 2011, they would have paid $114,000 in Medicare payroll taxes during their careers.

But they can expect to receive medical services -- from prescriptions to hospital care -- worth $355,000, or about three times what they put in.

The same hypothetical couple retiring in 2011 will have paid $614,000 in Social Security taxes, and can expect to collect $555,000 in benefits. They will have paid about 10 percent more into the system than they're likely to get back.

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2010/12/114000_that_2011_retirees_paid.html
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SupremeIdiot
Bowdown and worship me, trolls. For I am your king
09:58 PM on 09/19/2011
Does that include interest on 40 years of contributions?
03:04 PM on 09/19/2011
The age for medicare should be lowered to at least 62, thus allowing many to retire early creating jobs. Yes we can fix both social security and Medicare and there are simple ways that these politicians are just ignoring!
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SupremeIdiot
Bowdown and worship me, trolls. For I am your king
03:33 PM on 09/19/2011
The age should be lowered to birth. Everyone should be covered.
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cue
Ichi-go, ichi-e
09:01 PM on 09/19/2011
Not only is this the morally right solution, it gets in younger, healthier people with lower health care costs into the system, brings in more premium revenue, spreads health insurance risks across the entire population reducing the cost (risk) any individual must bear, reduces the health insurance burden on companies and makes it much less expensive to hire workers and easier for US companies to compete with foreign companies and makes it easier for people to change jobs without fear of losing insurance coverage.
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Reaganite60
Don't tread on me.
11:08 PM on 09/19/2011
Medicare isn't going bankrupt fast enough for you?
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Freedland
05:04 PM on 09/19/2011
I have suggested this in the past and it is a good idea. New young workers could enter the work force and pay income tax while older retirees would put money into the economy. Even if this were a temporary measure for several years it would be a great idea!
01:54 PM on 09/19/2011
I would not object to gradual Medicare age increase over the next 10 years. Nevertheless, I like the President's plan.

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Vinca
01:53 PM on 09/19/2011
The repubs will NEVER agree to end those Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Obama should do it on his own authority to do that.
04:53 PM on 09/19/2011
He can't. This is a fiscal bill, which must initiate in the House to be Constitutional. We fought a Revolution against a monarchy so we wouldn't have rule by fiat.
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Reaganite60
Don't tread on me.
11:09 PM on 09/19/2011
He has no constitutional authority to do so. You're welcome to try again, dictator.
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John LaVoy
01:42 PM on 09/19/2011
I will post ther same comment here that I did elsewhere, hoping that's not a web-site faux pas. I do not agree with raising the age at which people can access medicare. I favor capping the age at which they can access medicare. We cannot afford to provide enormously expensive and ultimately useless medical coverage for people who are near death anyway. Let's just cut it off at 90, so everyone is treated equally.

Lest you have an apoplectic fit, I am close to retirement myself and have no interest in living nearly forever by sucking up funds that should go to younger people. A nice healthy retirement for 25-30 years and I will be happy to sail off into the west.
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SupremeIdiot
Bowdown and worship me, trolls. For I am your king
03:30 PM on 09/19/2011
That's nice of you but I don't think that decision should be made for people.

Medicare for all (single payer) would alleviate the problems. No more private insurance and the high overhead and ever increasing premiums. No Medicaid. And its proven cheaper by every country that has such a program.
Zip Zinzel
If a Nation expects to be both Ignorant & Free . .
12:57 PM on 09/19/2011
WAKE UP non-braindead voters of America

Social Security & Medicare NEED major overhauls

But they need to be handled on their own
. . . NOT AS ANY PART OF A BUDGET-CUTTING BATTLE
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Both Social Security & Medicare need to be Restructured in a Major Way

These restructurings need to have major input from the PUBLIC
to insure that restructures are approved by the public, not just sprung on them
somehow the public should vote on the planned tradeoffs to ensure it's legitimately

TWO MOST IMPORTANT CHANGES
1- 100% SELF-FUNDED 70-year solvency
2- Programs need to be regularly & routinely readjusted every 10 years, instead of waiting until it is crisis time, when the changes need to be huge

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MUST BE ADJUSTED
Contribution Rates
Elilgibility Ages
Benefits, Rates, & COLAs

CURRENT STRUCTURES LEAD TO CERTAIN DEATH
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SupremeIdiot
Bowdown and worship me, trolls. For I am your king
03:33 PM on 09/19/2011
The only overhaul that Medicare needs is for it to be open to everyone. Single payer is cheaper and more efficient than the hodge-podge of private insurance, Medicaid and Medicare.

Social Security only needs a lifting of the cap on payroll taxes.

There, feel better now?
12:53 PM on 09/19/2011
The choice in 2012 couldn't be more clear... Pick your side and vote.

I will be pulling the lever for Obama in 2012.
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drkazmd65
Mom Taught me - Question Everything - Thanks Mom!
04:31 PM on 09/19/2011
I certainly will NOT be pulling the lever (figuratively of course since my state uses those pesky electronic thingy) for any of the Republican alternatives,...

But President Obama hasn't convinced me NOT to vote 3rd party yet either.

Convince me Mr. President,...
05:23 PM on 09/19/2011
Will Obama have to make a personal appointment with you? Will you be able to fit him into your schedule?

Let's get real people.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/09/17/us/politics/20110917_poll_results.html

The Times’ recent poll shows low numbers for self-identified liberals (questions 78 & 79)

Economic issues:
7% very liberal
15 somewhat liberal
36 moderate
25 somewhat conservative
12 very conservative
4 don’t know

Social issues:
10 very liberal
20 somewhat liberal
31 moderate
22 somewhat conservative
14 very conservative
3 don’t know
12:14 PM on 09/19/2011
Taxation is based on income and wealth. If the top 5% have 90 % of the wealth, then they should pay 90% of the taxes. It was the Gubments way of saying," You either put the money back in the economy or we'll do it for you." It used to work.
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Miracle Politics
Love is the answer; whatever the question.
01:26 PM on 09/19/2011
It is an even smaller number. The top 1% has 90% of the wealth. I agree with your point.

America had its greatest expansion of the economy in the 1950's and 60's with 70% marginal rates for the superwealthy.
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sdsuprof
Each day Republicans stoop to a new low.
02:01 PM on 09/19/2011
Whether it's 5% or 1%, whoever has 90% of the wealth should pay MORE than 90% of the taxes, because they have the disposable income. It's a case of 4 yachts instead of 5, versus less bread on the table.
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
12:09 PM on 09/19/2011
How many Republicans have signed on to the Grover Norquist Pledge?

IMPO.........The man largely responsible for the divisiveness and partisanship we see destroying our governments ability to function today?

"We are trying to change the tones in the state capitals -- and turn them toward bitter nastiness and partisanship."

A man who quite frankly, seems to want to destroy our government.

"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."

Working to CHANGE government, to make it more responsive, more effective, more efficient, is an admirable goal.

Working to DESTROY it?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." - Abraham Lincoln -

Why fight wars half way across the globe, when there are those who want to destroy our government being elected here at home?

If Republicans want Americans to be more "personally responsible" and held accountable for their actions, then it follows that Americans SHOULD hold Republicans accountable for theirs.
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OneBadRadCatDad
11:37 AM on 09/19/2011
There they go again! These TEA party confrontational extremist changing the Modus Operandi of America when it doesn't need it. These TEA party fringe has already made inroads into local and state level policies, and now they are gaining in national politics. Make sure you can vote in 2012 and vote out the party of "NO" and the TEA party extremist! Remember the screamers and yellers are the TEA party and those are the ones to vote out! The confrontational-ist have made inroads into local, state and now national politics. Wake up America! This is a call to arms to take back our country. The president's numbers are low, but Congress' are even lower! Obama keeps getting the blame but this economy belongs to the 112th Congress!
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Mark MacDonald
Pass the Scotch
11:36 AM on 09/19/2011
Politics is a war that never ends. That Republicans even have a Democratic president talking about deficit reductions during a recession and with interest rates at historical lows is a political victory. The only time any political party in this country even talks about deficit reductions is when they are in the minority. Bush and the Republican majorities he held spend money like drunken sailors. Democrats worried about deficits. The President is the unenviable position of having to spur a nearly flat economy. Except for printing money and increasing government spending, he has no other short term options. Pass the Scotch.
11:16 AM on 09/19/2011
It's about time, but if he caves (to any GOP whim) one more time, it will not only be the end of his presidency, but it will also be the end of the Democratic Party.