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Ronnie Shows

Posted: May 19, 2010 08:52 AM

Blue Dogs: A Progressive's Best Friend

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In my last blog post, I tried to lay out an argument about why it is critical that my progressive friends in the Democratic Party take steps to help the more conservative members of Congress. I was pleased to have over 100 reader comments, but sadly, many of those comments seemed to misunderstand me.

My point was simple: progressives and moderates need each other to retain political power in Congress. And if you truly care about progressive principles, then you need moderate Democrats like the Blue Dogs in Congress because they ensure that key progressives control the power levers on Capitol Hill. For example, consider Domestic Policy Subcommittee Chairman Dennis Kucinich -- a true leader in the progressive movement. If Republicans were in control of Congress, the chairman of this Subcommittee (with jurisdiction over issues like labor, education and criminal justice) would likely be one of the most conservative Republicans in Congress.

I also stated in my last blog post that progressives should reconsider advancing legislation that requires Blue Dogs to take unpopular stances, especially when there are viable legislative alternatives that Blue Dogs could vote for. One example that hits close to home for me is the call by some progressives to eliminate offshore drilling in the energy bill because of the tragedy in the Gulf of Mexico. Rather than insert a ban on offshore drilling and force Blue Dogs from states like Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana to take a vote that would mean thousands of lost jobs back in their districts, Congress and the White House should seek to reduce the dangers of oil exploration through increased government oversight and safety measures. As a native of the Gulf Coast, I am deeply upset by the devastating environmental impacts of the oil spill. But I am also keenly aware of the economic benefits of oil exploration in the region.

Another piece of legislation which could be bad news for Blue Dogs is the food safety bill. It already passed the House, and many Blue Dogs voted for it because it is a good bill that protects Americans. But now, in the Senate, some progressive Senators are trying to add a provision to that legislation to ban a chemical known as BPA. The FDA has not banned BPA for being unsafe or told people to stop using products that contain it. But if Congress does impose a ban, it will result in thousands of lost jobs in the canning and food preparation industry. Many of those jobs are critical lifelines for Americans living in economically depressed Congressional districts represented by Blue Dogs.

If the Senate inserts this ban, it means that Blue Dogs may be forced to oppose the food safety legislation in its final form or vote for it and suffer the political consequences. Either way, their Republican challengers will surely hammer them. If the Senate leaves out this provision, Blue Dogs could vote for the food safety bill. When the control of Congress is so closely tied to the fate of Blue Dogs in November, it only makes sense to leave this provision out.

Lastly, the reader comments from my previous column that caused me the most concern were the assertions that a Democrat who isn't a progressive isn't really a Democrat. I strongly object to that belief. Conservative Democrats have stood with progressives on countless issues, and when they don't, it simply means they are voting to reflect the beliefs of their constituents. For Democrats, requiring strict adherence to party principles means being in the minority and not controlling Congress or the White House.

Shows was a member of the conservative Blue Dog Coalition when he served in Congress.

 
 
 
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Cal3b G
06:06 PM on 05/19/2010
Yes, we need Blue-dog conservative Democrats in order to keep our majorites and keep the republicans from being in control again. You are correct. But there comes a time when the Blue-dogs are controlling the entire agenda of the Democratic party, even though they are very small in number! Take the public option which was killed by a couple of Blue-dogs and an "Independent" who caucuses with Democrats. Even though every poll (which members of congress cite as if they are the final word) said that Americans overwhelmingly favored the public option, the will of the people (again judging from polls, take it or leave it) and the overwhelming majority of Democrats all across the country was cast aside because a couple of blue dogs in the Senate said they didn't want it. That is not a "progressive's best friend".
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04:46 PM on 05/19/2010
Do 'blue dog" Democrats represent districts that would not elect a "progressive" Democrat?
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mommadona
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02:29 PM on 05/19/2010
Will blue dogs give up any connection with the International Chamber of Commerce? (we're not in Kansas or on Main St anymore, Toto ~ we're goin' Machiavelli, ya know) AND all "corporate" affiliations, AND Wall Street AND K Street AND C Street? (and you wonder why you're called DINOs)
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Carl Caroli
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12:48 PM on 05/19/2010
I have a real hard time with any democratic leader supporting or fighting legislation to satisfy a campaign contributing constituency over the will of and benefit to the entire country. Like integrity, it's a matter of principle.
12:35 PM on 05/19/2010
I consider myself to be far left of the Democratic party. That being said, I have to agree with Mr. Shows overall position because of one key point that he made about commitee chairmanship. It is these committees that select WHAT congress votes on. That is almost as important as HOW our congressmen and women vote. We're not going to get liberal democrats coming out of Kentucky anytime soon...or Tennessee, or Colorado, or any number of semi conservative / swing states. Continue to think progressively and vote that way but remain pragmatic and recognize that we need those Blue Dogs - and they need us.
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04:47 PM on 05/19/2010
Tb0n3

good point
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05:40 PM on 05/19/2010
That would be a yes on Colorado... we have two progressive candidates to choose from at the moment. And I'd prefer that Kentucky went to a Republican rahter than to a fake Dem who succeeds in nothing except undermining the entire party. We do not need blue dogs to help alienate voters. That kind of thinking is what got us into the mess we're in at the moment.
11:37 AM on 05/19/2010
"My point was simple: progressives and moderates need each other to retain political power in Congress."

Retaining political power is not a worthwhile goal if that power is used badly. It seems pretty obvious that Blue Dogs are not pragmatists but corporatist insurgents.
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04:48 PM on 05/19/2010
camx
if you believe that, you need no enemies -- you are your own enemy
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05:42 PM on 05/19/2010
Not exactly... some of us are quite aware of who the enemy is... and blue dogs are not moderate Democrats, they're Republicans in donkey suits.
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Busbydav
11:02 AM on 05/19/2010
Banning BPA will not result in any lost jobs, in fact many corporations have moved away from using BPA voluntarily because of the negative perception of it. The FDA has not banned it yet but they have noted a number of different health concerns and I have no doubt that it will be banned before long.

I might be able to sympathize with Blue Dogs on some issues but where are they on progressive issues that have the support of the public? The Public Option, Don't Ask Don't Tell, Employment Non Discrimination Act.....Blue Dogs oppose these initiative while the public at large is for them. Until we start getting Blue Dog support on progressive issues where they will see little to no fallout from I see no need to support them on the issues where they will.
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Lemeritus
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10:54 AM on 05/19/2010
"The FDA has not banned BPA for being unsafe or told people to stop using products that contain it." So....

That's just the kind of Blue Dog nonsense that drives a lot of us crazy. BPA encourages obesity, may be a factor in memory loss, is an underlying cause of breast cancer and increases prostate gland susceptibility to precancerous lesions and hormonal carcinogensis, increases hyperactivity, attention deficits and heightened sensitivity of drugs of abuse, and promotes invasion & metastasis of neuroblastoma cells.

Rather than walk and chew gum at the same time (ban BPA and sponsor a job-saving alternative), your choice is simply to shelter corporations that use it.

Were you paying attention last night?
10:04 AM on 05/19/2010
Progressives aren't true Democrats.

Retaining them in the party confuses voters as to what the Democratic party line actually is and that erodes confidence in the Democratic Party by sending mixed signals.

The Progressives need to go form their own party.

As this article suggests the reason they don't is that even THEY don't think they have enough substance to stand on their own in an election.
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JinChicago
10:15 AM on 05/19/2010
there should be THREE parties, i agree

1. pragmatists (ie corporatists) both blue dogs, and a lot of repubs fit here IMO
2. libertarian
3. progressive

until this is the case, we will always have a two party system that represents corporate interests over voters all day every day
10:24 AM on 05/19/2010
Blue Dogs are an infection of Republicanism that has spilled over into the Democratic Party. They are a runt holdover of what was a reaction to the Reagan era, when the mistaken belief that being "more like a Republican" was somehow actually a good thing, as Rahm believes. Blanche Lincoln, by all rights, should actually be running in the Republican primary.
12:03 PM on 05/19/2010
Six or eight parties would be more realistic/functional.

There are already at least 27 active parties in the US but most politicians opt for safety in numbers over GOOD THINKING and unique ideas.

Another problem with too few parties is that many [most?] people 'self identify' as something they aren't. [Voters and Politicians alike.]

We have Obama who doesn't 'look like' a Democrat and McCain who doesn't 'look like' a Republican.
- They don't 'look like' because they AREN'T.

Two parties is also part of why it's so painful and slow to get anything done at the Capitol.

Should note that a -true- Progressive isn't a traditional Liberal anymore than they are a traditional Democrat.
[-True- meaning an actual Progressive vice someone labeled incorrectly as one.]
Based on looking at what they -DO- calling them Social Democrats makes more sense than anything else.

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I think that each State should have 3 Senators that are REQUIRED to be of 3 different Parties. They vote amongst themselves on each issue and then [as now with one Senator] are allowed one vote in the name of their State on the Bill [or whatever] in question.
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If an empty seat [for the 3 of one given State] ever results in a tie [a hung internal vote] then that State abstains from voting at all.
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Changing Parties during their term is prohibited unless they step down first.

Something similar for the House but without expanding their population three-fold.
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10:19 AM on 05/19/2010
Can you name a "progressive" currently serving in congress that is in the Democratic party?
12:10 PM on 05/19/2010
Virtually all of them.
But they aren't actually Democrats.
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12:15 PM on 05/19/2010
Sen. Al Franken.
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10:02 AM on 05/19/2010
Putting another blue dog in congress just puts one more Republican vote there and the Democratic party pays for it.

Self defeating for the Democrats and suicidal for the progressives.
10:02 AM on 05/19/2010
Wait, so progressives should suffer worthless, pro-corporate politicians who can't fix problems so that they can exploit _loopholes_?

How about no. The "Blue dogs" need replacing with people capable of cracking down against irresponsible corporate activity, just as much as all the Republicans do.

There is no "moderate" in our congress right now. There is only "Effective" and "Failure". Guess where the blue dog democrats are?

The issues you select as examples seem to support your points. Unfortunately, they're fairly insignificant compared with the damage Blue Dogs have done as a result not of their constitutency, but of their conservatism - a lack of support for a public option for health insurance, and lukewarm support at best for proper financial regulation, are just two things that each, by themselves, render each and every one of them unfit for continued office.
10:00 AM on 05/19/2010
"Rather than insert a ban on offshore drilling and force Blue Dogs from states like Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana to take a vote that would mean thousands of lost jobs back in their districts, Congress and the White House should seek to reduce the dangers of oil exploration through increased government oversight and safety measures."
"Another piece of legislation which could be bad news for Blue Dogs is the food safety bill. If Congress does impose a ban (on BPA), it will result in thousands of lost jobs in the canning and food preparation industry." Really?? Says who? Blue Dogs and Republicans oppose government oversight because it "will cost thousands of jobs." That is why the disaster in the Gulf occurred. No oversight. You are fear mongering just like your Republican brothers. Why don't you join them?
Chauncey1186
Yeah, I'm a soshulist - so what?
09:59 AM on 05/19/2010
No Mr. Shows, we didn't misunderstand you. Your previous post, as well as this one, was perfectly clear. You want Progressives to continue to "take one for the team" while the Blue Dogs high five the Republicans all the way to the Democratic endzone.

Sorry, but your attempt to clarify your already crystal clear position is what my kids would call an "epic fail". You found little support here the first time. I respectfully suggest you cease trying to win us over - last night's primaries are just the beginning. And I for one will not lose any sleep if Lincoln and the other Republicrats end up going down. If push came to shove, I would rather see a Republican in a Blue Dog's seat - at least then we don't have to worry about watching our backs.
RabidRightRebel
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09:43 AM on 05/19/2010
The trouble with Blue dogs is they can not be relied upon to vote for measures that protect the public because they have an irrational fear about government interference in the market. This despite the fact that recent history has demonstrated that unregulated markets are detremental to or society and the economy.

If Blue Dogs are unwilling to be part of the solution, doesn't that make them part of the problem?

PS: I have no problem with the Blue Dogs preventing government participation in healthcare, however I can not understand why they would stand in the way of regulating abusive insurance company behaviour.
09:39 AM on 05/19/2010
The Blue Dogs are corporate schills. Even greater than party divisions, republican vs democrat is an even stronger diametric of corporations vs the people. Any politician siding with the corporations at the peoples expense, as Blue Dogs are wont to do, should be culled from the party.