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Rose Marie Berger

Rose Marie Berger

Posted: December 6, 2010 07:25 PM

Christian Support for Repealing DADT is a Double-Edged Sword


Most Americans, including Christians, now support equal rights for gays and lesbians serving in the U.S. military.

A new poll by the Pew Research Center indicates that 58 percent of Americans support equal rights for gays and lesbians in the armed forces. Large majorities of Democrats (70 percent) and independents (62 percent) favor allowing gays to serve openly. Republicans are divided (40 percent favor, 44 percent oppose).

But let's look at the religious breakdown too:

  • 62 percent of white mainline Protestants support equal rights for gays in the military.
  • 52 percent of black Protestants support equal rights.
  • 66 percent of Catholics favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly.

Let me be clear, I'm very glad to have Christians moving toward a strong stance in support of equal rights for gays and lesbians in all sectors of society. This is a positive step forward for the society at large and Christians should be part of it.

The Pentagon report released yesterday finds significant support for repealing DADT among the younger "blue collar warriors," while a vocal minority of top brass will be uncomfortable with the shift. And don't get me wrong, I want the churches to continue to support fair and equal treatment for gays and lesbians.

However, there are other sticky questions I want to raise.

Are the Christians that want a repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell also supporting gays and lesbians within their own churches? Do they advocate for LGBT justice and liberation? Do they invest in and promote gay and lesbian leadership and open their congregations to new, liberating ways of reading scripture in the context of the LGBT life experience?

Secondly, are the Christians that want a repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell also calling into question military service in an era when the U.S. has the second largest standing army in the world (behind China) and has troops stationed on all six inhabited continents?

I can support equal rights for gays in the military, but there's the bigger question: As a Christian should I be supporting military participation at all? And how do Christians critique the prevailing "Empire consciousness" and offer instead our "prophetic imagination" or "alternative consciousness," as theologian Walter Brueggemann calls it, on issues of war and peace?

If Christians are supporting the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, then are they also advocating strong teaching in their churches on the Christian pacifist tradition or the rigorous moral "just war" process that any Christian -- gay or straight -- must go through before participating in any given war?

When Jesus says "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God," what does he mean? Or when he says, "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you"? Or "To the person who strikes you on one cheek, offer the other one as well, and from the person who takes your cloak, do not withhold even your tunic"?

Early generations of Christians refused to participate in war (though those who did were counseled and sometimes asked not to seek communion for a period of time, but were not cut off from community). Soldiers who subsequently converted to Christianity often left military service, viewing it as incompatible with their new life.

Why? Largely because of idolatry. Military service forced them to put the gods of nationalism ahead of the God of Jesus Christ. Military service also fostered hatred for an enemy, an attitude viewed as antithetical to Christ's teachings. "Love of enemies is the principal precept of the Christian," said the Tunisian theologian Tertullian in the first century. Until the time of Constantine no Christian writing allowed for Christians to participate in war. Military valor was not a virtue. True victory was won through love.

In a democracy that enshrines civil rights and "justice for all," it is right and good for Americans to support the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell and promote LGBT civil rights in the society at large.

Christians, however, have another set of values to examine. For traditionalists it may be whether you can be gay and Christian. For progressives, it's whether you can be Christian and "Army Strong."

This post first appeared on Rose Marie Berger's personal blog.

 
 
 
Most Americans, including Christians, now support equal rights for gays and lesbians serving in the U.S. military. A new poll by the Pew Research Center indicates that 58 percent of Americans support...
Most Americans, including Christians, now support equal rights for gays and lesbians serving in the U.S. military. A new poll by the Pew Research Center indicates that 58 percent of Americans support...
 
 
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
02:11 AM on 12/13/2010
The "Just War" canard is a product of Monarchist Christendom. It is heresy. The Kingdom of God is within you. There is no provision for violence of any kind in the teachings of Christ. His greatest testament of the truth he taught was that he faced death praying for people who defined themselves as his enemies. He certainly had none. His compassion was an enlightened compassion. It broke the bonds of ignorance by perceiving a greater Truth about life and the boundless existence found in letting go into the bosom of the Universal Father. No birth; no death. If we want to understand true Christian teaching about active non-violent resistance as depicted in the Gospels, it might help to look to the Buddhist teachings on non-attachment, emptiness-form inseparability, non-duality, interdependent arising and the illusion of our separateness from the All.

The Kingdom of God is within you.
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SocBeat
Bald and proud
12:13 PM on 12/13/2010
Thank your god that people didn't buy that argument in the 1940s. You'd be calling him gott now and we'd all be wearing brown shirts and jack boots

Passive resistance is a great concept, and it certainly has its place. But it also has its limits.
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The Ghoul
I live off Republican tears and I'm never hungry
05:20 PM on 12/12/2010
It's ok for the bible to be wrong. It's been wrong about science, women and slaves. I promise allowing gays equal rights will not destroy your fragile faith.
05:02 PM on 12/12/2010
Given the overwhelming number of homosexuals in the clergy, one would think they would support a repeal.
02:46 PM on 12/12/2010
Christianity has long been subverted to support the "western warrior ideal" much like Buddhism was corrupted by the Samurai. True followers of Christ should be anti-war and tolerant of others regardless of their religious beliefs or sexual orientation.
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
02:27 AM on 12/13/2010
Have you read Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of God is Within You"? He shatters the notion of a "just war" as heresy. In fact, "christians" should not only resist joining the military but should also reject elected office or becoming a civil servant. He demonstrates the the foundation of power of all government is violence -- that the very first priority of government is to secure it's power against the very people it purports to serve through the use or threat of violence, either by direct or indirect coercion based upon violence as power.

A Christian should not entertain any notion of patriotism or loyalty of such social constructions that are based upon evil methods. In the world but not of the world. Those who foment war and revolution in the name of Christ or not Christian. Rather they are Zealots, the first century expression of the antichrist.

Much of the justification for violence we see today is based on the Book of Revelations, an apocalyptic Jewish text through and though, one which Martin Luther rejected as not belonging in the canon because it contrasted with the Gospel version of Christ beyond acceptable limits and because its visions were being taken as material realities rather than the spiritual warfare it depicted. Unfortunately, once a book became included in the canon by fiat of church council, it became an object of biblical idolatry.
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Vieux Charles
Educating America, one liberal at a time
11:10 PM on 12/11/2010
Ms. Berger,
You've made this issue way too complicated. Opposition to the repeal of DADT has nothing to do with "equal rights for gays and lesbians in the armed forces" rather it has to do with whether or not an open homosexual lifestyle is compatible with the military readiness and discipline.

Further, your idea of a "rigorous moral "just war" process" escapes me entirely.

The goal of war is to influence an opponent to do our will. The ideal of war is to accomplish this without violence. Sadly, ideals are just that. The only "rigorous moral "just war" process" is a straitforward calculation - which is likely to generate greater evil (injustice, oppression, violence etc.) the decision to apply violence or the decision not to apply violence.
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LoyalBob
God is more vast than the Bible.
08:26 PM on 12/12/2010
Since the majority of those in authority in the military have made it known that repeal of DADT will not compromise military readiness or discipline, yours and others such as McCain's argument do not hold water. The stance against repeal has basically become an old, white-man's argument for not changing a status quo they are comfortable with. And that is my opinion based upon 22 years of being an ancillary part of the old, white-man military officer establishment.

Repeal of DADT is far overdue.
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Vieux Charles
Educating America, one liberal at a time
09:19 PM on 12/12/2010
"And that is my opinion based upon 22 years of being an ancillary part of the old, white-man military officer establishm­ent."

And your opinion would matter, if the military were a democracy.
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SocBeat
Bald and proud
10:24 AM on 12/13/2010
As an aside, who would have ever thought that the military establishment would be to the left of the Republicans? So much for the snarling, cigar-chewing stereotype of the military commander and the smiling, arms open, everything-to-everybody stereotype of the politician!
08:11 PM on 12/11/2010
As an active member of the ELCA Lutheran Church, I am overjoyed that support for the repeal of DODT is increasing. As far as the other questions are concerned I would say:
Yes, many Christians who want to repeal DODT support GLBT individuals within their own congregations.
Yes, we are calling into question military service in the first place. Many of us are coming to the answer that no, we should not be supporting military participation.
Yes, we are advocating strong teachings on the Christian pacifist tradition.

It is a matter of simultaneously loving God and loving your neighbor, the two are not mutually exclusive.

Thank you for your thoughtful insights.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
03:58 PM on 12/11/2010
It is a very peculiar world in which a multiple adulterer, like Newt Gingrich, can inveight against a president for being faithless and not be called out for hypocrisy. It is a very odd mindset that can treat homosexuality--which get the same level of divine abomination as eating meat and dairy in the same meal--as worse than adultery, which is against a commandment.
My personal belief has always been that the same men who think nothing of exposing women to sexual harrassment are scared--uh, spitless--at the thought of facing any themselves.
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WillRogersUSA
Will Roberts- Modern Day Will Rogers
03:15 PM on 12/11/2010
Here the funny thing... Here in America, we pride ourselves on freedom of choice. Yet, we are telling folks with alternative lifestyles that they cannot fight along side us & they cannot marry the ones they love.
Why we even call it "alternative lifestyle" is beyond me since we give them no alternative!
Wait, that's not funny... Thiat's SAD!
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been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
03:58 PM on 12/11/2010
Homosexuality isn't a choice, either. It is a reality.
05:14 PM on 12/09/2010
I want all people to have the equal chance to get into heaven.

And they do, thanks to the cross. But there is a cross.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
03:59 PM on 12/11/2010
There are multiple crosses, but you should work on defining your cross, not everyone else's.
11:27 PM on 12/11/2010
which is a conclusion you come to by way of 'faith'.

if we are to accept your conclusion based on faith, we should accept everyone's conclusions based on 'faith'.

Therefore, people don't go to heaven, the get reincarnated.
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Slate 1947
Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself.
08:11 AM on 12/09/2010
"For traditionalists it may be whether you can be gay and Christian."

It seems to me that if not for the Christian religion, DADT wouldn't be an issue in the first place. Every law against homosexuality from DADT to gay-marriage, has been based on Biblical teachings and implemented by Christians holding political power.
12:04 AM on 12/09/2010
To answer your question about all the other areas in which people of faith support LGBT equality - YES for the mainline denominations. Of course some congregations and synods do not, but they don't support the repeal of DADT either. Now the majority of mainline Protestants also support marriage equality by a significant margin. The teachings are increasingly moving toward justice. It's always a long march, but it always proceeds. The retreat of evangelicals, Pentacostals, and Dominionists is evidence of their loss of hold over this nation. Justice will always prevail, but the trek is hard, the outcome never certain, and the success always needs support even when it's achieved. Support for LGBT equality and questions about the morality of war also go hand in hand. So while the conservatives work to pull us apart, the mainline churches work even harder to unify us all in the embrace of justice and equality. But don't stop working. It's NEVER over.
12:09 PM on 12/10/2010
The retreat of the evangelicals, Pentecostals, Episcopal Presbyterians and other non scriptural non-denominational churches is not evidence of a loss over the hold of a nation, it is a surrender to the world instead of Christ. It is a infiltration of the liberal view into the word of God, pulling away from the belief in the word of God, the ability to liberally interpret and disregard text and therefore "justify" any type of lifestyle. With this type of theology, you could write the immaculate birth, crucifixion, and resurrection of Jesus out of the bible and that is where this trek is headed.

The LGBT and liberal move likes God's second greatest command. ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’, with disregard for the first, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’

And really does not like what Jesus has to say here:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Nor do they understand fulfillment vs. abolish, in favor of abolishing. Most own a bible but have never read through it.

Grave misunderstandings. Only God is just, you are trying to trump God with your world view of justice in his name.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
04:02 PM on 12/11/2010
No, you are wrong about ignoring the first part to live up to the second. Jesus called God "Aba" or "Daddy." We cannot honor God by failing to seek justice for others.
If homosexuality is not a choice--and the evidence is very strong--then rejecting homosexuals is rejecting God, for they are also in His image.
And how in heck did you or anyone else miss all that Jesus said about God's love in favor of the Old Testament harshness?
09:35 PM on 12/08/2010
"Are the Christians that want a repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell also supporting gays and lesbians within their own churches? Do they advocate for LGBT justice and liberation? Do they invest in and promote gay and lesbian leadership and open their congregations to new, liberating ways of reading scripture in the context of the LGBT life experience?"

Question is; Are Christians compassionate toward LGBT's who attend church? and; Is it compassionate to lead someone to a false sense of salvation?

New and liberating? "Hey look here, God was wrong!" "Paul was not inspired!" "Jesus never said that, did he?" I don't like the way that one was interpreted by thousands of scholars."

Sounds like talk from the garden. Deceit in the name of the Lord. Nice Rose, interpret God's word to fit a lifestyle. It's not false teaching, just enlightened interpretation.
12:05 AM on 12/09/2010
Check your own prejudices. Mainline Protestant churches are not oriented to salvation but to justice. Move past your archaic and limited sense of what faith is.
08:49 AM on 12/09/2010
Sounds like they are orientating to a cult, not Christ. Trying to take away from God what is God's?
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
04:04 PM on 12/11/2010
Jesus took care of salvation. We can reject it, but we can't, and don't need to earn it. What Jesus does expect of us is social justice and personal kindness. Homophobia fails.
02:55 PM on 12/12/2010
Homophobia? I fear not. We sure cannot earn salvation but do not think we can reject God's commands without rejecting him. God's commands are clear and he knows our heart. In order to accept the salvation given to us by the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, we too must sacrifice our lives and follow him.

No question social justice and personal kindness are important, but this is God's greatest command number two, but disregard God's greatest command? To reject God's commands, live an unrepenant lifestyle, yet expect God's grace? Do I love my brother or sister by showing them the true and narrow path or making them feel good with a false sense of salvation?
09:30 PM on 12/08/2010
Each of us has good and bad qualities and we accept each other based on the balance of those qualities....For most people the balance is in favor of the good, or so we hope....In any case, we don't toss them out as humans because they aren't 100% perfect according to our standards.. we generally accept them...

So why, assuming one thinks homosexuality is a bad thing, can't we look at the whole person....There are many young people in the military who died or were maimed for what they thought was a worthy cause at the time....yet they were compelled to hide part of themselves as if they should be ahsamed....why would we do that to them or anyone else who's just trying to make their way in this often awfull world....They should be themselves and not be made to feel bad about it......if one is fortunate enough to find someone to love and care for and who returns that love what business is it of mine or yours what their genders are?
12:06 AM on 12/09/2010
Wonderfully said, thank you!
08:21 PM on 12/08/2010
Should be titled as " i promise I can find something negative about EVERTHING...
12:06 AM on 12/09/2010
LOL!!! There IS that...
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LightShadow62
The answers are not found in the extremes
05:14 PM on 12/08/2010
I think it is interesting that more people 'support' the right of gays to serve openly in the military than support social rights for gays.

It's OK to kill for the country but not to have marriage rights.
07:07 PM on 12/08/2010
Where are your statistics?