When I fly in an airplane I want the pilot with the most experience, not the one who can inspire hope in me that I get to where I am going. When I pay my taxes, I want the person filing them to be experienced, not the new person who inspires hope in me that he can do the job. When I hire someone to fix my washing machine, I want the tried and true experienced person, not the one who inspires me to hope that he can fix it. When I go to the doctor I do not want to get the one who inspires hope in me that s/he can cure what's wrong, but the one who knows what the hell to do the minute I call. It's not really the job of a public servant to inspire, but to get the job that the people demand done. The democrats think that if they have hope and are inspired things will get better, but they actually won't. When Oprah makes her employees sign her fifty page non-disclosure statement, she doesn't "hope" they can't break it, she pays teams of experienced lawyers to MAKE SURE they can't break it, or be sued in an experienced court by an experienced judge.
Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to
Nice post. Sounds like you have been following politics for a grand total of about a day by listening to the parrot they keep backstage at CNN. Could a more superficial and two dimensional distillation of the candidates be possible? Their Nintendo Wii icons would have had more substance. I'd go on, but I'm dangerously close to my comment becoming longer than your "essay."
bravo, justme
First of all, Obama has more experience as an elected official than Clinton. He spent 8 years as a state senator and come November, 4 as a U.S. Senator for a total of 12 years as an elected official. Clinton, by contrast, come November will have served just 8 years as an elected official. What has he done in the U.S. senate? Glad you asked. I'd post the whole lot of it but it would probably be too big for a blog post. So here are two links visit so that you, Roseanne, can educate yourself on the FACTS! Obama is substance AND style. Obama is experience AND change. Obama is progressive AND pragmatic. And most of all, Obama is fresh, honest and yes, inspiring:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/21/164117/783/290/461422
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
P.S. everything in the flyers is factually accurate! Shame on YOU Hillary Clinton!!
http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/02/23/hillary_clintons_support_of_na.php
Did Hillary say she had more experience as an elected official, or just more experience? She's over 10 years older than he is; of course she has more experience overall. And insofar as Obama has had a relatively smooth ride, it's fair for Hillary to include in her experience the right wing (and far left wing) attacks that resulted in the Starr persecution.
Although I suspect that Americans will once again say they are tired of "negative politics", Obama will - as he has with the misrepresentative fliers in Ohio - use it when he needs to come the general election. We may not like "negative" advertising, but most of the time it seems to work.
How will BO respond to charges made by the Kenyan government that his campaigning activities in Kenya in support of his distant cousin running for president there made him "a stooge" and constituted interference in the politics of an important and besieged ally in the war in terror?
From my newspaper today.
OOOHHH! They finally found something! I knew there HAD to be something...!! I tell you, Obama is defintely DONE this time. DONE!!! ;)
Her Experience led her to vote to let Bush start the war.
That sort of experience I neither want nor need.
I voted for her for senate, but no more. She's again and again voted to support... the... WAR. Does that mean you also support the war, Rosie?
Obama has also voted to support the war effort again and again. I take it you'll vote for Nader in the general election then?
Experience is what you want? Then why didnt you support Biden or Richardson?
Please, so Tom Arnold was a regular on Roseanne for all 9 seasons... I actually used to respect your intelligence
Roseanne,
Has Hillary hired you to do PR for her campaign? If so, she should have gone with someone with more experience. I know you hope to make a point by talking about airline pilots and washing machine repairpersons, but you've failed for the same reason Hillary's pointless campaign is failing.
Her record as an elected official proves that she won't represent the people who vote for her. And her campaign itself proves she can't run a large organization.
Doesn't it bother you how many times she's voted with Bush? Please spend a little more time looking into the real Hillary Clinton and less time worrying about what sort of contracts Oprah makes her employees sign. Otherwise, you're just another ill-informed voter.
So, when Roseanne Barr expresses her opinion, you wonder if the Clinton campaign hired her? Did the Obama campaign hire you? Of course not. Celebrity does not rob a person of his/her opinion, and expressing it doesn't mean he/she is a campaign operative.
Hillary Clinton was elected to the Senate in 2000; her vote to authorize the use of force in Irag occurred in 2003. She was re-elected to the Senate in 2006, by a convincing margin. I'd say that her re-election indicates that the people of NY state feel she has represented them.
Obama talks about reaching across the aisle to work with Republicans. If Senator Clinton (and Senator Obama) has voted to support a Bush initiative, isn't that what Obama is talking about?
This is exactly the logic that kept getting Strom Thurmond reelected.
besides the fact that OBAMA is experienced in a lot of subject because of his senat in Illinois, he ALSO pays teams of excellent advisers ro run his CAMPAIN (it shows.....). So adding HOPE to all this, certainly gives him a lot more chances to win the election.
POOR OLD TIRED FAKE BILLARY!!!!
You have to admit Roseanne has not studied her case very carefully
Everyone knows that men like Abraham Lincoln or FDR or even JFK led by inspiring people to do what was best for the nation rather than what the old timers would have done. The old timers would kept going as though nothing needed to change and no one can ever come up with innovative solutions. America's conservatives, Dems among them, have never done anything worthwhile for he avreage citizen. They keep on working to make the rich richer and everyone else can go hang. I hold no brief for Obama but he has more potential than all the other candidates for the office ever had even if you added them all up.
America needs someone with vision that looks to the future rather than with eyes firmly locked on the rear view mirror and fingers white knuckled on the steering wheel.
Hillary's experience (voting for authorizing bush to go to war and voting for the Kyl-Lieberman excuse to invade Iran) is exactly why I voted for Obama. The whole experience card has turned against her as a Washington insider. Now McCain is playing the same losing hand. Those of us who voted for Obama are fed up with the kind of "experience" these old hacks are serving up. Obama may not be the solution, but Clinton and McCain are clearly part of the problem. If Obamamania has a mindless component to it, it is still preferable to the evil that men and women do. The sad thing is that I think Hillary could have won if she had voted with her heart instead of what her head, at the start of the war, told her to do. Away from Washington, I think she'd be an Ok person. In Washington she's just another political opportunist.
So you gave Obama a pass for his many pro-Iraq war votes, huh?
Yes, Obama is a hypocrite, against the war from the start but voting in support of it. And Up is Down. Tomorrow, Left will be Right. Next up: finding a convincing argument against Obama and the war when your candidate supported it from the start...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvPAMn_nVps&feature=related
Watch that and then tell me if you care what she thinks about anything.
I agree that I would want the most experienced pilot in the cockpit or doctor in the operating room. Those are both jobs that rely on technical expertise. The office of President is by definition a executive and leadership position and therefor relies on other skills. Leaders have to be more inspirational then then they have to be subject matter experts. Inspiration and vision are keys to good leadership. Experience is the key to a good adviser.
We are experiencing the results of having in the White House a man who has a vision of democracy throughout the world. It's a nice vision, but God is in the details. Imagine if Bush had asked some harder questions or if he'd had some non-ideological people around him? Colin Powell should've been one of those, but chose to be a "good soldier instead.
It's not a question of having vision or to inspire people to follow your lead: it's what's in the vision that counts, and how that vision translates into real world terms.
Roseann, this is best line I have heard regarding the differences between experience and inspiration and hope, LOL. But obviously
people are flying on inspiration and hope, hope the plane doesn't crash.
Hmmm....sounds like the author is against Affirmative Action or does only Presidental Campaigns count.
For all of Hillary's talk of what she has done, let's face it, she is 60 years old and in that time she has worked say 6 maybe 7 years. So how does that stack up with Obama??
You're kidding, right? I mean, you could not have researched Hillary Clinton's life and come up with the statement that "she has worked 6 maybe 7 years". If your definition of work is limited to holding political office or to doing things for pay, you're eliminating an awful lot of things that people do without getting paid, and certainly without holding elected office.
You must be logged in to comment. Log in or connect with