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Rosemary Palmer

Rosemary Palmer

Posted: November 16, 2007 12:16 PM

The Contradictions of the Kucinich Plan

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You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time. But, is a Congressman's purposefully hiding his real policy position any way to treat voters?

Reading Dennis Kucinich's excuses for voting this week against the latest Iraq funding bill should make us all spitting angry.

"Leadership could have told President Bush they will not continue to fund the war. They could have said: Use the money you already have to bring the troops home. That is what the American people want," he said.

"They did not have to bring a bill to the floor. They could have forced the President to bring the troops home by refusing to provide any money for the war. Enough money exists to bring the troops home -- without further appropriations, " Kucinich said on his Congressional website.

If you haven't read his Iraq policy carefully, he might be able to get away with that. After all, the first element of his plan says, "The US announces it will end the occupation, close military bases and withdraw."

Most people read that as his wanting to withdraw all troops now. But read on. Element 4 says, "Convene a regional conference for the purpose of developing a security and stabilization force for Iraq.. . . The end of the US occupation and the CLOSING of military bases are necessary PREconditions for such a conference. . . . Prepare an international security and peacekeeping force to move in, replacing US troops who THEN return home."

OK, so which is it, Dennis? Do we withdraw our troops to meet the preconditions for the conference, or do we wait until after holding the conference and persuading a to-this-date unwilling United Nations to prepare peacekeepers to come relieve our troops? If the latter, if we cut off funding for our military in Iraq, how do you suggest we feed and supply the brave men and women we sent there?

"The US will necessarily have to fund a peacekeeping mission, which, by definition will not require as many troops. . . . The ambition of the UN is to deploy in less than ninety days. However, without an agreement of parties the UN is not likely to approve a mission to Iraq, because countries will not give them troops," he continues.

In Kucinich's HR 1234, which he says is a plan to use existing money to bring the US troops home and transition to UN peacekeepers, he states, "The United Nations can field an international security and peacekeeping mission, but such a mission cannot take shape unless there is a peace to keep . . . ."

To date, do we have peace to keep? When did that happen? I must have missed the announcement.

Kucinich also bemoans the amount of money this war has cost. Agreed, it is way too much. However, how much would we pay for the non-existing UN peacekeepers, and for reparations, all of which he says we American taxpayers should cover?

"When will the House Leadership stand up for the American people? How many more lives have to be lost before they stand up to this Administration and refuse to send any more money for the war?" Kucinich concluded.

I want the Iraq situation ended as much as anyone does, Dennis. When will you stand up face to face with me in a debate and explain these contradictions?

Rosemary Palmer is the Democratic challenger to Congressman Dennis Kucinich in Ohio's Tenth Congressional District. Learn more at www.rosemarypalmerforcongress.com

 
 
 
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12:29 AM on 11/20/2007
Rosemary, for the life of me, I can't figure out why you're trying to get Dennis Kucinich's seat, and why you're against him. Your motives are unclear, to say the least. He's for peace. He's against the Iraq occupation. As a mother who's lost a son there, you should be too.
12:03 AM on 11/19/2007
Rosemary, I won't tell you to sign up for a seat on the other side of the aisle, but I WILL suggest that you should probably have taken your campaign to the other side of the river. You know as well as anyone that Dennis isn't going to be ousted from the 10th by the likes of you. And if you support "in theory" so much of what he is about, as evidenced by the relentless support both you and your husband have given DK in the past, would it not have made more sense to run for a neighboring seat? West siders do and will resent the fact that indeed, your entire campaign seems to be based upon sour grapes. My heart breaks for you, having lost your son, but it does seem you are coming at this from the wrong place and IN the wrong place. I wish I'd been home a few weeks ago when you or one of yours was canvassing and left a postcard. I would have had much to say, face to face. I don't know whether to be embarrassed or disgusted to find you blogging here on the Post, outside of the safer confines East (where most of your support is) of the river (too bad the 10th is comprised of points west and south thereof). This is all very sad. I wish you well and hope you find the resolution you seek.
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04:10 PM on 11/18/2007
Why not ask him instead of blogging about it? HR 1234 is complete and concise. Why didn't you post it here so all could read it? Bringing an international peacekeeping force in means that ALL nations take part in establishing peace and order in this country that our government has been responsible in decimating. Is that wrong providing that it happens after our troops return home? So far, Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has pledged to bring all the troops home within 3 months of taking office. Rosemary, you hate Dennis, not sure why! Your run for the congressional seat is based on no platform BUT your hatred of Dennis. I think you should change your platform and speak on what YOU would do when faced with the same questions. Try to come up with solutions instead of tearing someone else down and smearing them.
03:50 PM on 11/18/2007
Rosemary -- I question who is backing you.
Democratic House Representative for District 10 is Dennis Kucinich. He has won, with over 70% of the vote. When he was first elected, he unseated a Republican incumbent.

I question your intent.

Democratic leadership in Congress is finally getting around to what Dennis has been saying for months... That is: no money = no war.

To suggest that the troops wouldn't be safe in a withdrawal, is just mouthing Republican neocon fear mongering - in an attempt to control people through fear. Nice try.

Pelosi & Reid have taken a page from Dennis's play book Stop funding the war and it will end. This is a simple concept. I don't know how else to make it clear to you.

OK - try this. Suppose a heroin addict is your friend. You keep giving him money, at the same time begging him to stop using drugs. Yet, each time you give him money, he gets more drugs. So - you stop the money - and he stops getting drugs. see how this works? (ok - a drug addict might find another source) Where would the war mongers get money -- if we the people stop handing it to them? It would be interesting to find out.

Rosemary, you are tilting at windmills. No matter how you get the press to slur Dennis - he is an immaculate warrior. You (& the Ohio press) sound like you're still angry because he didn't hand over the utilities to you in the 70's...

for shame.
03:58 PM on 11/17/2007
We can go around and around with this. If we support Bush's continued war efforts in Iraq we won't leave this occupation. If we don't support the US genocidal effort against Iraq. Then we are not supporting our troops. Please can we try to have a serious discussion that includes the full dimensions of all this mayhem. Dennis Kucinich is doing absolutely what the American people want; Holding the Bush Administration accountable for treasonous acts against the Constitution of the United States. This is in fact, what the American people voted for in the midterm elections 2006. But, because we don't believe in evolution any more the Democrats took Impeachment off the table. C'mon we desperately need to start supporting one another and stop tearing each other down. I am proud of Dennis Kucinich for his efforts to bring truth and sincerity to a fast disintegrating free world. Please, I implore all US Citizens to support the candidate who has Integrity, over the candidate who is just the reflection of evil. We the people choose our candidates through a complex electoral system. And we still can use that system to our (the citizens) advantage. Every secular minded person, every one who wants the Bush administration Impeached, Every one who believes we still don't have the whole truth about 9-11. Do not allow the corporate media to colonize your minds. Get out the Primary vote to choose the Democratic candidate and vote for the most progressive candidate who is out there, Dennis Kucinivh. We need to take this holiday season and talk with our friends and relations about Dennis. Let's come together as a last act of defiance to the corporatization of our world's governments. The US citizens holds a tremendous amount of responsibility when it comes to our electoral process and the effects an administration can and does have for the entire world. We the people could change the course of history and turn this whole thing into a vote for Global Justice. Dennis Kucinich. Good Luck and good voting.
05:20 PM on 11/16/2007
I read Kucinich's remarks, and his plan...and for some reason I understand it! Either I'm missing something, or you are, mam!

Reading you are the challenger for his seat in the tenth district in Ohio explains alot. Twisting statements; taking things out of context; making a resonable plan sound like there are contradictory points hidden within...you should do well in politics!

If you're not part of the solution...you're part of the problem. Sure you don't want to reconsider and register with the Republican Party???
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12:46 PM on 11/16/2007
Per usual - laudible cause, poor plan.


Ron Paul has the only good plan for Iraq. Talk to the Generals and get them out in months and use the funds already in the pipeline to do so.