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Russell Shaw

Russell Shaw

Posted: September 19, 2007 11:23 AM

Hey Military Families, You Helped Elect This Guy


On MSNBC.com, there's a newly posted piece about the effect of overly long Iraq deployments on military families.

"Their stories put a human face on stark statistics showing that the U.S. military -- a small force by historical standards -- is stretched thin after more than four years in Iraq and six in Afghanistan. Repeated deployments of active military members and reservists and diminishing 'dwell times' between postings to the war zone have taxed soldiers and taken a growing toll on the home front," writes MSNBC's Kari Huus from the military town of Midland, N.C.

"Families are truly exhausted," Huus quotes Patricia Barron, who runs youth programs for the National Military Families Association. "They are starting to feel the stresses of separation more acutely."

I'm not without sympathy for these families. During World War II, my then-future Mom and her love-my then-future Dad- were separated for more than three years. I've read the letters and seen the photos. And there was no Internet for quick "I--love-yous." Just ships that had to sail slowly and very, very carefully.

But World War II was a necessary war. Debateably, Afghanistan was, too. But Iraq? No.

The painful truth, it must be told, is that if all manner of polls and surveys are to be believed, it is many if not most of these military families that voted the Iraq-invading Bush Administration into office. I've seen stats well into the 70s, and even into the 80s on that on Bush voters in the military.

Not only in 2000, but in 2004- when the war was already 18 months in- and a guy was running that had actually served in combat.

Well, why the Bush tilt in the military- at least in the last two elections?

In this era of the volunteer Army, there's surely a pre-selection for folks who believe in hierarchical command structures. When your country calls, you go. And in these same military families that spawn the brave men and women who by genetics and upbringing fall into this culture of obedience, you can bet that others with different programming- such as "Hanoi Jane" Fonda and Bill "Draft Dodger" Clinton were routinely derided by the fathers of those who are now on their fifth deployment in a land that didn't attack us on 9/11.

Maybe these sad and lonely separations should be a teachable moment for military families. To question your leaders is patriotic.

 
 
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01:44 PM on 09/19/2007
Maybe these sad and lonely separations should be a teachable moment for military families. To question your leaders is patriotic.

A valid point, but an equally valid counter point is that an all volunteer force is a bad idea and that we need a draft, wheather peace time or war time, to ensure a cross section of the country serves.
01:28 PM on 09/19/2007
Has it occurred to you that they supported, and possibly even still support, what U.S. troops are doing in Iraq?
01:16 PM on 09/19/2007
Belief in a hierarchical command structure offers a partial explanation, and it makes sense to me.

I think that another huge part of military families' support of Bubble Boy and his war is a profound need or desire to believe that your loved one's life has been endangered on behalf of a noble cause. It's horrible enough when a loved one is seriously injured or killed in pursuit of a righteous cause. But knowing that your loved one died in a war based on lies would add immeasurable anger, distrust and resentment to the grieving.

Quite understandably, military families desperately look for reassurance from their leaders that the cause remains just, in spite of copious, objective evidence that it is not. It's a mechanism designed to preserve their emotional well-being. That they have been placed in this position is among the multitude of reasons to despise The Commander Guy.
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dawlishgal
08:43 AM on 09/20/2007
Have you seen "Americanization of Emily?" It's a great movie on any level, and I suspect no movie with its message could even be made nowadays. There is a scene in which Charlie Madison, the James Garner character, tells the mother of a dead British airman that the concept of regarding lives of those killed in war as noble sacrifices (instead of merely wasted) just leads to more killing of more people.

Get it from Netflix, if you can.
12:54 PM on 09/19/2007
I just read that article on MSNBC. Those red states voted for W and their Senators continue to support their unending deployment. Actually my heart doesn't bleed. Red states bought tickets to the show so enjoy the view. (Note: If you are from a Blue State and joined the military you have a screw lose. The economy is better in the blue states and you probably could have found a good job if you waited. But, thank you for protecting my freedom. It was never in jeopardy!
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RickO
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12:37 PM on 09/19/2007
How about letting anyone in the military who voted against Bush come home and those who voted for him can stay there.
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TXfemmom
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12:33 PM on 09/19/2007
Look, my son was a Naval Officer, who was injured and released by the Navy in 2004.

My daughter-in-law simply could not understand that Vietnam had taught some of us, who lived through Vietnam, that one could hate the war, but support the troops. Stupidly, many of our military conscripts, who had absolutely no choice about their service, were vilified.

Now, we vilify the administration and its' irrational, corrupt supporters, and not the troops. She has just begun to realize that one can love the troops and support the troops, and that is what we are doing in trying to get them out of there, and be against the war.

I have to admit, however, that my son and daughter-in-law were both smart enough to vote for Kerry, and not Bush.
12:11 PM on 09/19/2007
You got it right Mr. Shaw. These same families were disloyal to our Constitution by opposing President Clinton publicly and secretively.

These folks are inept at their jobs as well as demonstrated 9/11 at the Pentagon.

These folks are like ostrich
heads in the sand as they allow Blackwater USA to subvert the honor and integrity of our Military.

These folks are duplicitous as so many double-dip working for Blackwater USA. They should have their pensions revoked.
12:11 PM on 09/19/2007
The truly sad thing is that they would probably vote for GWB AGAIN! After all, it's God's will that their loved ones were 'taken', right? It's all in 'His' divine plan, right? Oh, well, without gullable, willing accomplices, we couldn't go halfway around the world to kill and conquor, could we? Ain't imperalism grand?
12:44 PM on 09/19/2007
Taking advantage of stupid people is the American way.
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dawlishgal
12:05 PM on 09/19/2007
Well said. My dad's cousin had a bunch of their great-grandfather's letters translated from the German, and published a book of them. The patriarch, while fighting for Prussia (even though he was from the Black Forest) wrote very touching letters to his then fiance about how much he missed her, with constant sad little asides about the carnage of war and how it horrified and appalled him.

They married and left Germany for the US in order for him to avoid yet another conscription.

After fifteen or so years of marriage, he left wife and daughters in the US, and took the sons and moved to Canada. At that point he wrote letters back to Germany saying how much he missed the military, and that his years in the army were the best of his life.

Depressing to contemplate how many military families must go through similar processes of forgetting the bad and retrospective falsification into something good.... probably one of the things that keeps war cultures going within families.
12:04 PM on 09/19/2007
In my opinion, the best symptom of patriotism is questioning your leaders, thereby saving your country.

Always question everything, it's the sign of a healthy country.
12:01 PM on 09/19/2007
yeah. i have a friend who was a bush loyalist and with whom we had many heated debates. After the iraq invasion, even after katrina, this guy defended bush no matter what, and he even used the "but clinton did it" line. then his guard unit got called up and he was shipped off to iraq for almost two years. And he still supports bush, even though he knows the war was a mistake. I just dont get it.....
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12:48 PM on 09/19/2007
We all hope that our mistakes will not ruin us, and somehow magically turn, in time, to good. We may even accomplish something good by our bad acts.

Our military knows that military actions are always checkered, so they hope that the forces they unleash will somehow work for the best. They know their leaders are often fools, but they follow them because even fools can manage to be right about some things.

I think that a lot of people still defend Bush because they can not imagine that the decisions his Democratic opposition would make would be any better. The Republican public relations machine argues successively that the Bush position is the only position possible. Democratic leadership is judged weaker than Republicn, so they accept the bitter alternative.
11:45 AM on 09/19/2007
Last time I checked, the 'military family'
vote was pretty small. Maybe they have enuf
troubles already, and we should not pick on
them too much. Agreed?
11:32 AM on 09/19/2007
Good heavens! You are expecting Americans from any walk of life - including our military - to accept responsibility for their actions? You must be a communist!