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Russell Simmons

Russell Simmons

Posted: June 18, 2010 01:10 PM

Democrats, Don't Do This to the Poor!

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To the Members of the Financial Reform Conference Committee:

I have worked all of my adult life as an advocate for the poor, the voiceless and the under-served. Two weeks ago, I came to Washington to meet with members of Congress about my deep concern of the unintended consequences that the Durbin Amendment would have on the poor in America. Since then I've heard a lot of talk but I'm increasingly concerned that the central issue, the affect on the the most vulnerable in our country is not fully appreciated by those making the decision. I want to point out what's at stake:

Debit cards are the entry point for millions of Americans into the American financial system. Debit cards are what keep the under-served -- including minorities, immigrants, the poor, soldiers, veterans and students -- from the claws of payday lenders and check cashers, from humiliating lines waiting to cash their paychecks and then more lines to pay their bills. Debit cards are giving the 80 million Americans, who would otherwise go to check cashing and payday stores, the convenience and respect that those with credit cards and bank accounts take for granted. This very system is being singled out for attack just when it should be favored over credit cards. Credit cards are out of reach for the under-served and they encourage you to borrow when you shouldn't be. Yet the alternative is being targeted.

As the owner of a debit card company, I know first hand how being part of the American economy can change someone's future. However, let me be clear, this is not about my company or me: in fact this amendment will have comparatively little and possibly a positive effect on my particular business. This is about ensuring that within our desire to create financial reforms, we do not do so at the expense of the poor.

I have studied the Durbin Amendment. I have spoken to Congressman, Congresswomen, Senators and their staffs. I have spoken to groups that have no hidden agenda: the Community Banks and Credit Unions -- the good guys in the financial system. I don't work for Visa or Mastercard and I don't give a damn about the profits of the big banks. Regulation is long overdue, and I support the "Move Your Money" campaign to support community banks, credit unions and specialist providers of debit card services. No one has yet been able to tell me how Senator Durbin's amendment will keep the under-served from being hurt by higher fees for the very basic service that debit cards provide or how the amendment will ensure lower prices for consumers instead of bigger profits for merchants. I can't believe financial reform has come down to this: big retailers in a money grab on the backs of the poor and under-served.

Is this the Democratic Party I know and support? Is this the Congressional Black Caucus? The Hispanic Caucus? The Progressive Caucus? The Obama Administration? Where is the fairness in this amendment? The rich keep their "interchange" subsidy from their credit cards, but the working people, the debit card customer -- sorry, you're on your own.

I have advocated on behalf of the poor for new language in this amendment that will protect them, and I have received assurances that it will come. However, until I see action behind the words, I will continue to fight for the needs of poor people. I will not let this issue go unaddressed. I will keep it alive in every election until you right the wrongs in this amendment and protect the poor.

 

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11:15 AM on 06/26/2010
I am wondering just what "under served" means. ?? Who are the 'under served". Why do you need someone or an agency to "serve" you. Aren't we all capable of "serving" ourselves through hard work, determination and right choices? If I choose to have five illigitmate kids all from different fathers and no drive, determination or desire to make my life better, but rather hate on people who didn't make a drastically bad choice to act like an immoral alley cat, should I demand respect? I don't think so. I say end the debit card and expose these leeches for what they are. Maybe SOME of them will be embarrased enough over this exposure to make better choices.
08:41 PM on 06/24/2010
im guessing most of you havent read the bill? this bill will not affect russell bottom line. it will have a impact on consumer that uses a debit or credit cards issue by credit unions. how the federal reserve board will limit fees tha merchants pay when customers pay with debit cards. government rate wil reduce the merchants responsibilty to pay for the benifits recieved from the card payment system and will drive up cost for credit unions and their members.so credit unions and small communities bank would be forced to raise rates and fees for card services. big banks could set rates that would make it impossible for credit unions to compete. another way for big banks to block consumer from switching over to credit unions..
01:52 PM on 06/24/2010
I have worked all of my adult life as an advocate for the poor, the voiceless and the under-served." - If it were not so sad, I would be hysterical.. Russell Simmons who has created an empire from selling negatively influenced music to young minds for decades suddenly is an advocate for the poor? News flash, Mr. Simmons - you have personally been responsible for keeping young minds enslaved by promoting violence, the love of money and material things/BLING and disrespect for women.. you should be financing self empowerment programs to the youths in every prison across this nation.. that's how you fight for the poor..
11:15 AM on 06/24/2010
I'm a poor student and veteran. I'd be willing to bet that Simmons' debit card would be more expensive than my two checking accounts with debit cards, combined. One is with a major bank. The other is with a local bank. Both are free, for the most part. They're standard accounts without any special consideration for, anything. ANYONE can walk in off the street with a paycheck and get these same accounts.

These are the banks that Simmons claims he'll protect me from, by charging me more?
12:09 AM on 06/25/2010
Wrong.

Prepaid debit cards are suited for people who CAN'T GET CHECKING ACCOUNTS. A person can be disqualified from opening a checking account just like he can be turned down for a loan. You have probably never heard of Chex Systems...
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INDIVIDUALTERRY
no to the collective!
10:11 AM on 06/24/2010
Debit card "companies" are another leach on the poor, charging people to spend their own money is exploitation!
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INDIVIDUALTERRY
no to the collective!
10:10 AM on 06/24/2010
Support your local banks and credit unions , ween yourselves off Bank of America and Chase . The sooner these mega banks are gone the better off everybody will be.
01:26 AM on 06/24/2010
You've got money Russell, you take care of them.
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2ysur2ysub
I write what I feel at the time that I write it.
05:20 PM on 06/23/2010
Term limits. Term limits. Term limits. It couldn't get worse. Term limits. Term limits. As for Mr. Simmons: he's pimping the poor, as he is surely not thinking of them. If he want's to help them, give them a decrease in percentage point for every year they maintain good credit. At a minimum. Better yet: don't charge interest for a year, if they can keep their balances to zero. Try commenting about something in which you have no vested interest. Your financial interests definitely vest in the poor, so you cannot be seen as objective.
05:48 PM on 06/23/2010
And the Don't-What-the-Hell-They-Are-Talking-About-Award for Wednesday goes to .... [drum roll] ... YOU! First, anyone who says Russell Simmons is 'pimping the poor' wins the award with no further criteria needed. Second, he not only makes a clear distinction (lost on you) between a credit card and a debit card, his whole article describes the distinction, and he runs a debit card company. What are babbling about 'keeping their balances to zero'? Do you know what a debit card is?
07:17 PM on 06/23/2010
2ysur2ysub has just been owned! lol!
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09:15 AM on 06/24/2010
Actually, Simmons is very much taking advantage of the poor. The fees charged by his company are extraordinarily high for the "service" provided. He also obscures the fact that for a large percentage of the poor, traditional checking accounts ARE available and are FAR cheaper.

Simmons' debit card company is a bank. It takes money from people and holds it without paying interest. It then charges people a series of different fees to access that money (including monthly fees, transaction "convenience" fees, atm fees, balance inquiry fees, and so on).

If Simmons really cared about the poor, he would educate his customers that many of them have the option of getting a regular account at a bank and refusing overdraft protection (which makes a checking debit card essentially the same as a pre-paid debit card). In fact, Simmons himself could offer that service at competitive rates.
03:01 PM on 06/23/2010
I agree with Mr. Simmons. The use of a debit card should be rewarded not penalized. It is a 'pay-as-you-go' system that works well for all concerned. Folks 'buying' stuff they can't afford ,on credit, is part of a culture that has hurt our economy as much as those 'greedy' bankers.Not a nickel worth of difference!
02:37 PM on 06/23/2010
This coming from a man who is pushing his credit reform program with the Rush card.
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02:36 PM on 06/23/2010
He's an advocate for the poor and to help he charges ridiculous fees for the privilege of using his card. Great advertising for him though.
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ScarlettMocha
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12:25 PM on 06/23/2010
Thanks Russell, it sounds like your heart is in the right place.
02:37 AM on 06/23/2010
this coming from a man who has silk walls in his house.
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RJPCambridge
10:26 AM on 06/23/2010
What is your point ... no wealthy person should be taken seriously when they advocate for the poor ?

You know that is a Republican/Conservative game calling them "Limo Liberals" to discredit anyone who tries to make the system LESS abusive to the poor.

So is that your game ?
Do you want everyone to be poor ?
Or do you want all wealhty people to advocate only for the wealthy ?
10:46 AM on 06/23/2010
You're trying to talk sense into an ad hominem assailant. Might as well have a sit down with a water hose.
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05:30 PM on 06/22/2010
Note to all. The information above is no longer correct. The Durbin ammendment now excludes debit cards. The following was reported as HP's lead story on 6/21/10.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/21/swipe-fee-deal-merchants_n_619903.html

"The deal, struck between Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and key House negotiators, leaves out some elements that consumer advocates had been fighting for. It allows fees charged to reloadable, prepaid debit cards -- generally used by the poor -- to remain unregulated."

"The compromise is a win for Simmons, who owns a debit card company. Last week, Simmons sent a letter to Durbin outlining his concerns, which he also ran on HuffPost."
06:56 PM on 06/22/2010
You are correct, it does appear to take out prepaid debit. It does not however take out regular debit so it still has a profoundly negative impact on most consumers. Probably the most shocking thing in the news today was that Durbin was actively defending big merchants, because Wal Mart is opening dozens of stores and contributing $20M to charity in Chicago. So Wal Mart wins, Durbin looks like a hero in the Chicago area by selling out the U.S. consumer.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/22/on-eve-of-key-vote-wal-mart-donates-20-million-to-durbin%e2%80%99s-home-state/
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07:30 PM on 06/22/2010
The wrangling back and forth on this is about two different groups, banking and big merchants, wanting an advantage. You are arguing the point of view of the banks, who want to keep what is a largely secret profit source.

Whether the amendment would have ANY negative impact on consumers is hypothetical, and unsupported as well. The "they may not pass the savings along" argument is an old one, and not a very true one in practice. Merchants like WalMart and Kmart have a business model where they try to drive as much cost out as possible and then cut prices as far as possible below competitors. The fact is that if the fees are dropped and one does not drop their prices, then the other discount competitors gain an advantage.

Of course Wal-Mart wants the amendment, as it plays into their business model (and it wouldn't surprise me if your article were true). Small mom and pop stores who are struggling to get by and who are being squeezed by banks want it too, but they don't have the deep pockets.

The amendment is about taking these hidden fees out of the dark. Consumers are already paying for them in the form of higher prices. Today, one bank can charge a reasonable 1% and another can charge 2% and nobody knows. IF banks are going to raise other rates to compensate, at least it will be visible.
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07:46 PM on 06/22/2010
Look at it this way. These transaction fees are the only situtation where a bank gets an ADVANTAGE by RAISING fee rates. A bank that charges 2% has a distinct advantage over a bank that charges 1%. That is because the fee is not disclosed and the higher priced bank can afford to offer lower rates and more incentives elsewhere. It is an unfair business practice because normal market forces of cost vs service do not apply.

Banking customers think they are getting a better deal. However, they are still paying the fees in the form of higher prices. It is a hidden fee that consumers don't see. These fees have increased greatly over that last few years. Setting a reasonable rate that covers the cost of the debit card system prevents the abuse by banks.
03:59 PM on 06/22/2010
Durbin gets payoff from Wal-Mart:
On eve of key vote, Wal-Mart donates $20 million to Durbin’s home state
By Jonathan Strong - The Daily Caller 06/22/10 at 1:08 PM

On the eve of a key vote in the Senate on an issue in which Wal-Mart is deeply invested, the company announced it is donating $20 million to charities and opening scores of new stores in the Chicago area, in the home state of Sen. Dick Durbin, Illinois Democrat, the retail giant’s top ally in its push to cap credit card fees.
The plan includes opening “several dozen” new stores in Chicago and donating $20 million over five years to Chicago area charities “that work to eradicate hunger, curb youth violence and help all Chicago residents live better.”
At issue on Capitol Hill are so-called “interchange fees” charged by credit card companies to process purchases in stores.
Wal-Mart is a key player, lobbying for government price controls on the amount of the fees, which typically comprise about two percent of the purchase value. Retailers argue they do not have enough leverage to negotiate reasonable rates.


http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/22/on-eve-of-key-vote-wal-mart-donates-20-million-to-durbin%e2%80%99s-home-state/