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Turkish Military Assault on Kurds Sparks Outrage

Posted: 08/29/11 06:24 PM ET

A Turkish military raid in Kurdish regions has left 7 civilians dead, according to Iraqi officials. The continuous shelling of Kurdish regions has led to tensions between Turkish-Kurdish relations, and has displaced at least 124 villagers after they evacuated because of night raids, fearing for their own safety. Kurdish parliament issued a statement afterwards: "We demand the Turkish government to make a formal apology to the people and the Kurdistan government."

The mayor of Qalat Dizah, Hassan Abdulla told Reuters: "Today there was a rocket from a Turkish plane that hit a civilian vehicle, a pickup, carrying seven civilians. The seven were killed."

More than 2000 people demonstrated in the northern town of Rania where the victims were buried. This lead to protests by Kurds in diaspora condemning Turkish assault on Kurdish regions. In USA, Nashville Kurds protested holding banners like "President Obama, don't leave us at the mercy of Turkey."

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In Hawler, Kurdish students called for a demonstration of solidarity; they held banners saying, "Turkey feeds a child in Somalia, massacres a family in Kurdistan"

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Protests were held in most European states in solidarity with Kurds, calling for an immediate halt of Turkish warplanes attacking Kurdish villages and mountains. In Germany, UK, Finland, Holland and many other European countries, demonstrations were staged to condemn the Turkish governments disproportional response to Kurds.

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More protests are planned in UK, Sweden, Norway, USA, France and many other countries. There is a general sense of outrage. In London numerous boroughs have protested against and have vowed to continue protesting until Turkey apologises for their inhumane approach towards Kurds.

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06:32 PM on 08/30/2011
About Armenians, yes there were killings in that time. All started with Russian invasion, and their promises to Armenians about "big Armenia" caused a really good deal of Armenians to join them. many common Turks who had no idea killed by their former neighbors who were in an insane zeal. Then Russians retreated because of home front problems, leaving their Armenian allies with enraged Turkish gangs formed to fill the lack of governance. Ottoman government at that time had little power in that region, and they decided to dislocate all Armenians to avoid revenge attacks. After Sarıkamış defeat with 90.000 casualties to nature, and growing request about weapons and manpower from other fronts left the local forces powerless even against mere bandits. And then as feared, revenge attacks started on convoys of Armenians who were being dislocated by weak gov. forces who deserted the Armenians to their fate and causing many Armenian loses. So it was not a genocide, since there were not nearly enough man or resources to start a campaign to kill 2.5 millions of Armenians. (Total population 1923 12.5 millions)
06:31 PM on 08/30/2011
How many times you heard that Turkey hit civilians hit by Turkey? Once? How many times US and allies hit civilians? Dozens? Some talk here like Kurds are in a bad political situation, I have to remind you that Kurds has the same rights with Turks in Turkey, they even had a Kurdish president of Turkey, something you cannot hope for most minorities in other countries (including the west). Yes in times they suffered(got dislocated, discriminated) because of false and empty promises by big powers of the times(like their Greek and Armenian friends), but they were always a part of our society. Also they never had a sovereign country to claim land. Turks captured those lands from East Roman Empire, and they were not Kurdish.
03:30 PM on 08/30/2011
To maintain a basic journalistic integrity, I urge The Huffington Post to offer complete coverage of this subject. Please note the following, as published by Kurdistan News Agency:

"The (Turkish) ambassador reportedly presented photographic and satellite evidence to the Iraqi officials proving that Turkish fighter jets could not have been behind the incident.

“The Turkish military used highly explosive bombs for their operations and so the damage on the ground would have been be greater,” the Daily Hurriyet quoted the Turkish diplomat as saying, “…There are no craters in the road.”
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08:23 AM on 09/01/2011
The full article is found here: http://aknews.com/en/aknews/4/259137/ which states:

"On August 21, seven Kurdish civilians – including three small children – were killed when a rocket struck their car at the base of the mountain range. The vehicle and its occupants were so badly burned in the explosion that it was impossible to identify them straight away."

And;

"The Iraqi Foreign Ministry is said to have been unconvinced by Turkey’s evidence and upheld its prior call for an immediate ceasefire."
02:26 PM on 09/02/2011
Many thanks for your response. I'm glad that you've read the full article.

My comment meant to seek a balance in your article, e.g. to reflect the opinion of Turkey, who disputes the claims by local authorities in northern Iraq.

Once again, I would like to extend my condolences to the families of deceased.
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kasel1
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03:13 PM on 08/30/2011
Do you think the writer of this story could pause for a minute and tell us WHY the Turks are bombing the Kurds? Also, it's pretty ridiculous to say the bombings led to tensions. I would think so. Finally, what does Obama have to do with this? Is the US supposed to take care of every country in the world? And everytime it does, it's criticized for interference. We can't win!
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jyrdfrd
02:45 PM on 08/30/2011
The Kurd and Turks have been engaged in fighting for a long time. The Kurds want to form an autonomous region in the area that comprises southeastern Turkey, Northeastern Iraq and parts of Iran. The Turks consider them a terrorist organization(the fighters anyway). Being stationed in the area with the military, it was not unusual to see a howitzer emplacement along the side of the road ready to blast away a mountain side and that sort of thing. The Turks did take advantage of the Chaos that followed the overthrow of Saddam by staging a few raids on Iraqi Kurds, but now it seems they've gotten bolder, perhaps thinking the Iraqi leadership is weak. Far from having the secular government that existed in the 80's and 90's the turks are quickly leaning toward an Islamic Caliphate. They invaded a sovereign country and should be called out on it. As part of NATO, they should also answer to NATO as well as the UN.....
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tklinecrew
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11:08 AM on 08/30/2011
Turkey's assault on Kurds in Iraq is an act of war, and should be addressed by the Iraqi government first. That's what we have spent all that time, money and American lives for.... International pressure can be applied but it's time to have Iraq stand on its own
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se72748
10:45 AM on 08/30/2011
Americans don't want america to be the worlds policemen.They just want us to police the world.Hummm,ya got me scratching my head.
10:23 AM on 08/30/2011
"This lead to protests by Kurds in diaspora condemning Turkish assault on Kurdish regions."

"Lead" should be "led."
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Eric Frie
10:57 AM on 08/30/2011
thank you Merriam Webster.
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Cayce58
11:04 AM on 08/30/2011
How are we goonna learn otherwise.
Rexter
Question everything.
10:10 AM on 08/30/2011
In USA, Nashville Kurds protested holding banners like "President Obama, don't leave us at the mercy of Turkey."

You're in Nashville, be happy. If the Turkish army invades Tennessee I'm sure Mr. Obama will step in and protect you. One thing that is not going to happen is the U.S. getting embroiled in some separatist movement in northern Iraq by a group of people that support the terrorist group PKK and have no legitimate claim to any country.

Leave the Turks in peace, they will leave you in peace. You start a fight and then cry for help. Deal with it.
10:30 AM on 08/30/2011
What would you know about it, Rexter? You sound as ignorant as they come. The PKK is the one giving giving the Turks their problems. The PKK doesn't represent the majority of Kurdish civilians, so they shouldn't be being shelled.
Rexter
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09:22 AM on 08/31/2011
I know enough to see media and people like you championing an underdog, it's the american way. That's all well and good, but in no way does it equate to them having their own country or justifies indiscriminate killings and bombings of Turkish citizens. If you're OK with that I bestow my ignorance to you.

The Taliban doesn't represent the majority of Afghans, yet how many of them have been killed as a result of the Taliban's presence?
Rexter
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09:52 AM on 08/30/2011
First, there is no such country as Kurdistan, nor is there a Kurdistan government or parliament. The Kurdish people would like to have their own country, but who wouldn't. The Kurds do have a terrorist organization in the PKK that likes to cross over into Turkey and commit terrorist acts and kill turkish citizens. When the Turkish military pursues these terrorists across the Iraqi border and takes the fight to them it is an outrage, with protest marches, and demands for their own country.

The media would have us condemn Turkey for defending itself. The kurds commit atrocities in Turkey hoping the Turks will retaliate, all in effort to keep their cause alive in the media. Much like the Taliban, the kurds use terror for attention.

Real simple solution to those Turks bombing you all, stop crossing the Turkish border and bombing them. Problem solved.
10:23 AM on 08/30/2011
Your statements are unsupported by fact - actually, there is a Kurdish government AND parliament - in northern Iraq - it has existed since a 1970 agreement with the Iraqi government and is autonomous. In fact, both the "land of the Kurds" and/or "Kurdistan" have been referenced in ancient, middle age and modern texts - Kurdistan was clearly recognized between the 12th and 16th centuries. After World War I, the with collapse of the Ottoman Empire it appears that the Kurds got 'the shaft' -> "in the never-ratified Treaty of Sèvres, Kurdistan, along with Armenia, were to be among them. However, the reconquest of these areas by the forces of Kemal Atatürk (and other pressing issues) caused the Allies to accept the renegotiated Treaty of Lausanne and the borders of the modern Republic of Turkey – leaving the Kurds without a self-ruled region" (from wikipedia). So, the failure to provide for an indepdent "Kurdistan" appears to be yet another loose end from allied agreements ending World War I, but Kurdistan itself clearly appears to have existed much longer than the US. And, if you think these people will ever forget their heritage or the stripping of their rights, you are wrong - none of us would either.
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Eric Frie
11:00 AM on 08/30/2011
you started by saying he was wrong...there is a Kurdistan....then you put in a Wikipedia blurb which basically says there is not a Kurdistan......so which is it??
Rexter
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09:13 AM on 08/31/2011
It is immaterial what existed in the 12th and 16th centuries or beyond. A country of Kurdistan never existed. A little more research would show you that the kurds are the gypsies of the mideast having wandered and lived throughout that region as nomads. Their ethnicity is not discrete having mingled with everyone along the way. This does not grant them a country nor do acts of terrorism against established states in the present day.
09:30 AM on 08/30/2011
The article is bogus and biased. First there is no political entity called Kurdistan. Check Wikipedia, there is a cultural area called Kurdistan that is inhabited by the Kurds. In Iraq the Kurdish area is treated as a semi-autonomous area, maybe that’s the parliament they’re talking about - but that parliament has no authority re the Kurdish areas in Turkey. The area includes Turkey and Iraq. Second, Kurds from Iraq & Turkey have been killing Turkish military and civilians for year - which is why the Turkish military is on their case. And I can well understand why a Turkish pilot would perceive a pickup truck filled with young men to be the rebel/outlaws that are killing Turkish people. You doubtless noted that the article didn’t say the young men were armed or unarmed - why would that matter, right? Folks, put yourselves in the Turks position: a pickup truck crammed full of young men in Afghan, are they likely all on a religious retreat? So lets stop feeling sorry for the Kurds, they’ve brought this on themselves by killing a lot of Turks (Not mentioned in the article. Why would it matter, right?). The whole notion of “innocent civilians” is broken in the Turkish/Kurd conflict - all the Kurd fighters are “innocent civilians”. Oh, and the Kurdish area does have oil.
10:35 AM on 08/30/2011
why don't you discuss the oppressive laws against the Kurds that are enforced to maintain the artificial Turkish borders created after the fall of the Ottoman Empire and ending of World War I. Kurds, who have lived in the area comprising parts of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran and a few other nations, apparently have no rights to even be citizens of most of those countries, and their language and culture is outlawed in many places - I'd be a bit angry and rebellious too. The allies' decision to re-carve the middle east after World War I and/or World War II and disenfranchise entire populations left a lot of loose ends - I do not think the Kurds will forget their ancient heritage, and they are constantly reminded of their heritage through the oppression of occupation. The 1970 agreement with Iraq for Kurdish automony set their independence in motion, and I strongly doubt that bombing them will change that. It also sounds like Turkey's policy of "no problems" with its bordering neighbors is a selective one.
11:44 PM on 08/30/2011
Thanks for sharing your frustration, unfortunately, wrt Turkey all your facts are wrong. Why would fact matter, right? Do a little Googling and you'll find Turkish Kurds have been treated as citizens, although they may be regarded as pseudo-citizens now that they organized a rebellion and are killing fellow Turks. I mean, if they killed you or your family that wouldn't change your perception of them, would it? You're absolutely correct their territory was cut up at the end of the post colonial period, but to my knowledge all your other claims are either wrong or a consequence to the Kurds bad behavior. As for killing women, children, whoever "to maintain their ancient heritage" , clearly you and I are on different planets. I'm sorry their territory was divided, but it should not be the end of their world, and it certainly doesn't justify their criminal behavior. I mean, I live in Virginia, if tomorrow morning the powers-that-be were to redraw state lines an put me in West Virginia, I relly wouldn't care - and no way I would rush out an kill someone. It's past time for the Kurds to grow up. Stuff happens, adapt.
11:00 AM on 08/30/2011
Just like there is no such country as Palestine, yet these are the terrorists that are suppose to be given their own state when they're not even native to the region but only came within the last 100 years from other Islamic countries to deter Jewish settlement in Israel. At least, the Kurds are native to the region, so it's easier to feel sorry for them. It shouldn't be surprising the world sympathy goes to the Kurds. It would be hypocritical to give a free pass on terror to the Palestinians and not extend the same sympathy to the Kurds in Turkey.
08:28 AM on 08/30/2011
The Americans will not help the Kurds, just ask the Armenians......
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HarmonTerr
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08:12 AM on 08/30/2011
Obama's bombing agenda places Turkey after Libya and Syria. Sudan continues in its ineligibility due to lacking oil reserves and the world's concern.
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se72748
10:43 AM on 08/30/2011
Wait a minut here.Obama is supposed to be the friend of arabs.Thats what the republicans liked to say a while ago.He would cut and run from Iraq and afghanistan,remember?He is against oil company's.He was foreign born.Not a christian.hated america.Now you are saying he has a list of oil producing arab country's to be bombed.GOP is having a hard time keeping their lies straight.Turkey is a N.A.T.O.alli.
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HarmonTerr
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09:50 PM on 08/30/2011
Obama confuses you, too. go figure!
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07:59 AM on 08/30/2011
Turkey is re-asaserting itself. A new piple brings oil thru turkey from the Central Asian Republics
via the Caspian Sea and with talk of extending it under the sea to additional oil fields...another pipeline
runs from Kuwait into Turkey. This permits significant oil to flow entirely free of Iranian issues
and the straits of Hormuz and increases Turkish influence in Europe and the Med. Also, the shakey
state of the Arab regimes and a bit of radicalism at home has the turks a little on edge to secure
their borders and secular government. The Turkish interest in denying the kurds a nation-state
or increasing influence continues as well, particularly as the Turks assert themselves in the Muslim world a bit. (we must remember in the early 20th century most of the Muslim world was
under Turkish control)
07:04 AM on 08/30/2011
if you can`t fight, dont start one.