My plan was to write about Eric Clapton & Steve Winwood's performance at Madison Square Garden last night. And how Clapton, at 63 years old, is playing guitar better than ever. And how Steve Winwood, at 60 years old, still has that 19-year-old voice that gave us chills on "Gimme Some Lovin" nearly 40 years ago. And how for the same cost as my mother's monthly rent controlled apartment, you could have had a pair of decent seats. And how even though the cost was ludicrous, you really can't put a price on the joy and experience one gets from music. And how I would have paid twice that amount of money to relive certain concert moments of my lifetime.

Since you asked, a few examples.

Elvis Costello & Rosanne Cash performing "Unwanted Number," Costello's original tune written for the film Grace Of My Heart, but never recorded, in front of less than 100 people at the Rubin Museum in New York. (one of the toughest tickets ever)

The Black Crowes & Wilco on two separate nights, just a few weeks after 9/11. They were the first concerts I went to after thinking I would never see live music again, and both bands were visibly moved by the turnout, the emotion, and just being alive. So was I.

New Orleans pianist and R&B artist Jon Cleary with some of New Orleans R&B legends including Dave Bartholomew & Earl Palmer performing rock 'n' roll classics at Preservation Hall from midnight to 3:A.M..

Elvis Costello & Allen Toussaint performing Paul Simon's "American Tune," at New York's Beacon Theatre, not long after Katrina. (man, did I lose it that night)

Just about anytime Bruce Springsteen plays "Jungleland" or "Rosalita."

I wanted to write about how seeing Eric Clapton & Steve Winwood perform one of my favorite songs of all time, "Can't Find My Way Home," last night at Madison Square Garden has made it into my top 10 live performances.

But I can't. I can't write about any of that. I am too distracted. Not by the fact that at last night's concert at MSG, a cup of room temperature Stella Artois beer cost $8.25, the same as a cold six pack. (No one was under any obligation to purchase any.) Or that a foot long, undercooked phallus of encased baloney in a damp roll that MSG loosely referred to as a hot dog was $6.75. (I didn't want one, but someone did.)

I was distracted by James Dolan, that lovable philanthropist and CEO of Madison Square Garden, Radio City Music Hall and the once beloved Beacon Theatre, and how he has not only turned the New York Knicks into the laughing stock of the NBA, but has also turned some of New York City's best concert venues into the worst. (Especially on those nights when his band, J.D. & The Straight Shot, a third-rate bar band of wealthy businessmen who sinfully play "A Change Is Gonna Come" in their set, opens the show. There is NOTHING more offensive)

I guess you can't blame the mogul for the cost of the ticket. The same way Bruce Springsteen keeps his ticket below $100, Clapton & Winwood could have opted for the same, instead of the $250 per that they were asking. But all three shows sold out. So, I guess that's not Dolan's fault. And, like the beer and hot dog, no one was obligated to buy. (Although before J.D. took over the Beacon Theatre, shows were regularly priced between $40-$60. Now, even Frank Caliendo, comedian and John Madden impersonator, gets to charge $65. That's funnier than anything in Caliendo's act.)

But here is what really got under my skin.

A 12 ounce bottle of water was $4.25! Not $4.00. $4.25!! Every convenience store in the USA can afford to sell a bottle of water for $1.25. Is it really necessary for James Dolan and Madison Square Garden to charge 4 times that amount? For water. Which is free. And to add insult to thirst, the vendors won't give you the cap for the bottle. You're getting an incomplete bottle of water for $4.25.

I, along with 20,000 other fans, attended a great concert event last night. Why am I going on about an overpriced bottle of water? Because this is what NYC has become, thanks to people like James Dolan. Yes, that's right. However unfair it may seem, I am blaming James Dolan for making NYC unlivable unless you've got mad money or no conscience whatsoever. I've known this for a long time, as long as I've never had mad money, which is forever. But it really didn't hit home until my wife asked me to leave our $269.70 (with service charge -- HA!) seat and get her some water.

Eric Alterman often files items on his blog Altercation, under the heading "My City Kicks Your City's Ass." He boasts about all the wonderful events that take place here on a regular basis, some of the time free, but most of the time, definitely not priced to move. Born and raised in NYC, I've always felt that same way as Eric. NYC kicks every other city's ass! I'm not feeling it anymore. I can't be the only one who feels this way.


 
 

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- ClaudiaJean See Profile I'm a Fan of ClaudiaJean

and have you read the updated news? Ticketmaster (Barry Diller) and Cablevision (Jim Dolan) are teaming up to buy 49% of AEG LIVE from Phillip Anschultz... and create FUSE-AEG. So this one entity would own the venues, the ticketing, the promoter business and Cablevision is the media outlet... This is all gonna continue... it's big business. It's not about music. It's not about talent. It's certainly not about the artists or the fans. Buckle in... it's gonna be a costly ride.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 02/29/2008
- gaylagal2 See Profile I'm a Fan of gaylagal2

Thank you so much for posting this entry! I live in "Sin City" or Las Vegas (ha) and the price of tickets is ridiculous and insulting. NASCAR is coming up and there is another one. Last year I paid $5.25 or a bottle of not so cold water and $6.00 for a bottle of Sprite. OMGosh!! At first I thought the cashier was kidding with me and started to laugh. She just looked at me like I was nuts and asked for the money. Sigh.
And don't get me wrong, I do like some of Celine Dion's music. But I'm glad she is leaving Las Vegas and the diva Bette Midler is taking over! Dion charged close to $250.00 (crappy seats) on Thursday, Friday and Saturday Nights. Could you even imagine what they would have been if the seats were good??
Again, thanks so much for writing this article. I'm also a huge fan of both Steve Winwood and Eric Clapton, but extremely disappointed that they charged that amount for their show. WRONG, just WRONG!

Take good care,
Gayla
Las Vegas

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 02/28/2008
- Michael Giltz See Profile I'm a Fan of Michael Giltz

Eric Clapton definitely holds much of the responsibility. Artists who want to keep ticket prices reasonable (where have you gone, Garth Brooks?) can do so. AND they can screw scalpers with simple fixes like saying the person who bought the tickets must bring ID to get in, have people with credit cards that purchased the ticket pick them up at show, etc. I went through the list of shows at the Beacon and just don't even bother -- almost all of them are $100, which is crazy. And the last mega-priced event I went to was Simon & Garfunkel which was just about worth it. Most I don't even consider. I'd love to have seen the Police, Led Zep etc but it's not worth the nightmare to get seats that don't suck and def not worth the price.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 02/28/2008
- justthebassplayer See Profile I'm a Fan of justthebassplayer

Interesting comments, mostly. Isn't this what happens when a thing becomes mainstream?
Here's a concert I attended in 1969 at the Electric Playground in Chicago. Tickets, at the door, were $12.
Ted Nugents Amboy Dukes opened.
Savoy Brown (with Chris Youlden) did the next set.
Jethro Tull kicked ass after a brief intermission and...
Led Zepplin closed the show with a blistering hour and a half.
Zep actually set up their own gear, no doves, big screen videos, just four young guys playing their butts off. I've seen Zep 6 times. That first one was the best.
Also, a giant 12 hose hooka was passed around the hall.
This will never happen again in rock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 02/28/2008
- ClaudiaJean See Profile I'm a Fan of ClaudiaJean

The concert industry is a perversion of itself.

For starters, there is little competition. Used to be, in any given market, there were a few promoters that booked a handful of venues varying in size. These days, most shows are AEG or Live Nation, if not local branches then because these national promoters have purchased the entire tour directly with the band/agent and go into every market and produce that show. Everyone wants to make more and more money. Capitalism and free market says that the market dictates the price; if you charge more and more and people are willing to pay more and more, than your price is validated. Doesn't make it the right thing to do... but in the realm of economics, it's accurate.

The artists are grabbing money. Their managers are grabbing money. The promoters are grabbing huge wads of money. Dolan owning the venues he does is raping customers by overpricing everything, for sure. You can also blame him for the overpriced merchandise -- while the artist dictates the price points on t-shirts, programs, hats, etc... the cost includes the amount they are obligated to turn over to Dolan and the venue at each show, therefore the price to the concertgoer is marked up to include the cut the artist has to hand over to the venue. Standard practice.

Very few artists care about the fans. So long as people buy the tickets at higher and higher prices, the artist will sell them at higher and higher prices. But they've also smartened up -- the promoters aren't innocent in the deal but the secondary ticket market (the StubHubs, E-Bay, CraigsList and broker sites) is exploding... and the artists realize people are willing to pay ridiculous prices for tickets because they're paying that money to the scalpers and the artists aren't getting any of that money... so the artists started putting tickets up on official TicketMaster and Ebay auctions... offering exclusive extras packages... whatever it takes to get the money out of the hands of the brokers and back into their pockets. If they can't beat them, they join them.

The Police. MSG. August 2007. $240 per ticket. Single biggest waste of money on a concert ticket in the 25+ years I've been going to shows... Zero production. Same 3 pasty white guys on stage. Pure profit for all involved.

The artist, manager, promoter combo are doing the money grab -- why in the world would Celine Dion put tickets to her arena tour on sale ONE YEAR before the actual showdates? a) to coincide with the media push when she finished her vegas run and her new album came out... get people excited and the marketing/advertising for the tour overlaps with the marketing budget for her album and therefore the promoter doesn't have to spend as much from their budget.... and b) while the customer's money is deducted from their account or their credit card is charged immediately, the collected money earned by the ticket sales sits in an interest gathering account... for a YEAR... giving even more money to the promoter, artist and ticketing firm.

Yep. The industry is vile at the moment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 02/28/2008
- lanceomatic See Profile I'm a Fan of lanceomatic

Slayer and Marilyn were at the PNC Center, just to clarify.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 02/28/2008
- lanceomatic See Profile I'm a Fan of lanceomatic

In Sayreville, NJ, there is the Starland Ballroom. Last year, Ian Hunter played there and tickets were about $30, including the Ticketmaster charges. In the past month, I've seen Down and W.A.S.P. for about $25-30. Down played for 2 hours and W.A.S.P. did an amazing performance of "The Crimson Idol." (These were two separate shows.) Coming up, I've got Dimmu Borgir and Candlemass for $40 total. The most I've paid for any show was the double of Slayer and Marilyn Manson for $70. Yeah, I'd like to see Zep again, but for what they'll probably charge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 02/28/2008
- lanceomatic See Profile I'm a Fan of lanceomatic

That last sentence should have a ?! after it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 02/28/2008
- DwDunphy See Profile I'm a Fan of DwDunphy

Any large major venue is going to shove the weakening economy and the expanding inflation in the face of ticket buyers. While I myself hate the notion of it, there are once in a lifetime events (for me at least) that I have to suck it up and deal with cost. ClapWood was worth it (as I wrote about on Popdose.com). Most of what Madison Square and The Beacon host lately aren't, yet the robber-baron prices remain. The Kinks reunion at MSG would be worth it. Ray Davies solo at the Beacon? Maybe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 02/28/2008
- Spender See Profile I'm a Fan of Spender

Oh, it's not JUST NYC.
Any concert in Dallas at the Smirnoff Center, Cotton Bowl or American Airlines Center features 8 dollar beers, 6 dollar dogs and a bottle of FREAKING WATER for 4.25.
Coincidentally, the last major concert I saw was Clapton's "Crossroads Guitar Festival" at the Cotton Bowl a few years ago and while the tickets were worth the price, it was the added cost of concessions that drove me away from going to any more concerts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 02/28/2008
- NYCD See Profile I'm a Fan of NYCD

SAL REPLIES:
Spender,
There is a listing for 5 different Ray Davies concerts that are about to go on sale. San Francisco, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago, and Philly. Ticket prices start at $35 and peak at $65, with the exception of Chicago, where the high price is $75. Starting tomorrow, a 6th venue will be added to Ticketmaster, NYC's Beacon Theatre. That ticket will be $100. Do you think Ray will be bringing brother Dave out for that show? Will the show be 25 minutes longer? I think not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 02/28/2008
- SamEllison See Profile I'm a Fan of SamEllison

$15.00 for the DVD; Surround Sound in my living-room, priceless. A fifth row seat to boot!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 02/27/2008
- Stillman See Profile I'm a Fan of Stillman

I attended one of the last Blind Faith performances in Phoenix in August of 1969. It was an INCREDIBLE show, for which I'm sure I paid less than $20. Clapton was a great guitarist, but he's certainly not any longer. Compare his live rendition of "Crossroads" recorded in 1968 with the Cream reunion recording from 2005. The 1968 version is widely regarded as one of the most powerful blues improvisations ever, while the new version is tasteful, but never achieves the drive or soaring lyricality of his earlier playing. I respect him for surviving his addictions and for helping others to overcome theirs, but he's well past his days as a great musician.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 02/27/2008
- NYCD See Profile I'm a Fan of NYCD

SAL REPLIES:

Stillman, I am sorry to say, I just don't agree. I wasn't there in 1969, but I am not one of those fans who refuses to believe his last great achievement as a guitarist, was also his first--Mayall's Bluesbreakers. Eric Clapton's CD releases have been mediocre at best. And yes, some of his live performances have been phoned in. But that doesn't mean he cannot play. Choosing to play and being able to play, are two different things. He is not only NOT "past his days as a great musician," his playing has never been so inspired. If you attended the show last night, and you disagree, right on. But Eric Clapton set Madison Square Garden on fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 02/27/2008
- Stillman See Profile I'm a Fan of Stillman

I wasn't there, and I haven't seen him live in, perhaps, 20 years. I'm glad you loved the show, Sal. Nevertheless, your saying "Choosing to play and being able to play, are two different things" is interesting in itself. To my mind, they're only two different things if an artist lacks integrity, which means "oneness". I regret to agree that this characterizes Clapton's more recent work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 02/27/2008
- JGatsby See Profile I'm a Fan of JGatsby

I never understood what was supposed to be so great about Steve Winwood and $250 to see Clapton is just insane. Clapton was great, but that was in the past. Now he's just very good. There is a reason Layla never sounds the same, he doesn't have Duane to play the second guitar lead. Now, I'm off to listen to Allman Brothers Live at the Fillmore East. Now that is one I would pay $250 to see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 02/27/2008
- NicoleAnonymous See Profile I'm a Fan of NicoleAnonymous

So Clapton isn't good anymore because he has been playing for so long?

I didn't know people eventually lose their talent the longer they perform. Someone tell Slash and all the other brilliant guitar players - their days are limited!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 02/27/2008
- Shantee See Profile I'm a Fan of Shantee

As a native New Yorker, whose family has been here since 1907, I couldn't agree with you more. You can also blame Guliani and Bloomberg for giving Manhattan away to the their Real Estate buddies. Times Sq. is more despicable than ever, a vulgar Disney World if I ever saw one. A mix of neighborhoods, poor/working class/middle class/upper class is always so much better. I have more respect for the pimps, drug dealers and whores who roamed Times Sq. 10-20 years than I do for the creepy tourists,chain stores and corporations that have taken over the area.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 02/27/2008
- NicoleAnonymous See Profile I'm a Fan of NicoleAnonymous

Of course you have more "respect" for those people. You don't actually have to work as a prostitute and you haven't been attacked by any drug addicts.

Anyone who admires "pimps" just because they don't work for Disney is a person who has had never had to work for any of them.

"But I like going to Times Square and looking at all the pimps and watching them hit the prostitutes and then we can take pictures of the drug addicts and then we go home to our comfortable apartment and watch movies! It's fun! Why is Disney taking that away from us! What are we going to do now for fun! We could look at women being exploited in other countries but that is expensive! I hate Disney!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 02/27/2008
- nyctc7 See Profile I'm a Fan of nyctc7

As another native NY'er old enough to remember the seedy Times Square, I respectfully disagree. It is better now than it was when it was full of pimps, drug dealers, and hookers. The tourists might on occasion be a pain in the neck, but creepy? Never felt that way. And they spend a lot of $$ here. To say that these good citizens are lower than pimps, drug dealers, and hookers strikes me as a bit warped.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 02/27/2008
- NicoleAnonymous See Profile I'm a Fan of NicoleAnonymous

Your headline is really misleading. When I first read it I thought you were saying that Eric Clapton was ruining the city. It's not his fault they charge those prices.

And you should be telling us more important things like how great it was to hear "Layla" live in concert.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 02/27/2008
- NYCD See Profile I'm a Fan of NYCD

SAL REPLIES:

Well, the headline seems ok to me. And I would have mentioned "Layla," except they didn't play it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 02/27/2008
- NicoleAnonymous See Profile I'm a Fan of NicoleAnonymous

Actually your headline might not have been misleading. It's possible that artists can keep the prices of tickets lower if other artists are doing it but there might be reasons we don't know about the made the tickets higher. He might have had a more expensive set or something.

I would have been so upset if I paid that much and he didn't even play "layla" that night. I play that song almost every day at work and also "wonderful tonight" with the guy from Dire Straits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 02/27/2008
- Nooneyouknow See Profile I'm a Fan of Nooneyouknow

Paying more than $100 for a show that's not an historic event of some kind is ridiculous, and by historic event I don't mean every money-sucking reunion tour by guitar heroes who are 20 years past the last time they made a great album. I'd like to see the remains of Blind Faith, but $250 will buy me a bunch of shows by young players who are doing their best work right now and I'll still have change left over to pay my stabilized rent. It seems to me that a still-vital musician would try to keep their ticket prices low so new, younger, broker fans could see their shows. Maybe that's why Clapton and Winwood are charging such outrageous prices: they know who their audience will be, and they know they can milk 'em.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 02/27/2008
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