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On Spiritual Truths

Posted: 06/16/11 01:08 PM ET

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One day, you will find yourself outside this world which is like a mother's womb. You will leave this earth to enter, while you are yet in the body, a vast expanse, and know that the words, "God's earth is vast," name this region from which the saints have come.

--Jalal-ud-Din Rumi


Many of my fellow atheists consider all talk of "spirituality" or "mysticism" to be synonymous with mental illness, conscious fraud, or self-deception. I have argued elsewhere that this is a problem -- because millions of people have had experiences for which "spiritual" and "mystical" seem the only terms available.

Of course, many of the beliefs people form on the basis of these experiences are false. But the fact that most atheists will view a statement like Rumi's, above, as a sign of the man's gullibility or derangement, places a kernel of truth amid the rantings of even our most gullible and deranged opponents.

Consider Sayed Qutb, Osama bin Laden's favorite philosopher. Qutb spent most of 1949 in Greeley, Colorado, and found, to his horror and satisfaction, that his American hosts were squandering their lives on gossip, trivial entertainments, and lawn maintenance. From this Dark Night of Suburbia, he concluded that western civilization was so spiritually barren that it must be destroyed.

As is often the case with religious conservatives, whatever ignorance and "death denial" didn't explain about Qutb, sexual frustration did:

The American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs--and she shows all this and does not hide it.


(Sayyid Qutb, The America I Have Seen: In the Scale of Human Values, 1951)


These are not words of a man who has discerned the limits of romantic attachment. Being terrified of women, and yet as concupiscent as bonobo, Qutb is widely believed to have died a virgin. We can feel his pain. Needless to say, his puritanical attachment to Islam allowed him to make a virtue of necessity: What a relief it must have been to know that the Creator of the universe intended these terrifying creatures to live as slaves to men.

But Qutb was not wrong about everything. There is something degraded and degrading about many of our habits of attention. Perhaps I should just speak for myself on this point: It seems to me that I spend much of my waking life in a neurotic trance. My experiences in meditation suggest that there is an alternative to this, however. It is possible to stand free of the juggernaut of self, if only for a moment.

But the fact that human consciousness allows for remarkable experiences does not make the worldview of Sayed Qutb, or of Islam, or of revealed religion generally, any less divisive or ridiculous. The intellectual and moral stains of the world's religions -- the misogyny, otherworldliness, narcissism, and illogic -- are so ugly and indelible as to render all religious language suspect. And I share the concern, expressed by many atheists, that terms like "spiritual" and "mystical" are often used to make claims, not merely about the quality of certain experiences, but about the nature of the cosmos. The fact that one can lose one's sense of self in an ocean of tranquility does not mean that one's consciousness is immaterial or that it presided over the birth of the universe. This is the spurious linkage between contemplative experience and metaphysics that pseudo-scientists like Deepak Chopra find irresistible.

But, as I argue in The Moral Landscape, a maturing science of the mind should help us to understand and access the heights of human well-being. To do this, however, we must first acknowledge that these heights exist.

 
 
 

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Saijanai
Micro bio? We don't need no stinkin' micro bio...
04:41 PM on 06/20/2011
There are many experiences that are considered "spiritual." The one I consider most important is "pure consciousness." Unfortunately, it turns out that there are at least 3 different states of the brain that lead to descriptions of "pure consciousness," at least superficially: women who were sexually abused as children tend to have dysfunctional areas of the brain associated with emotion and report episodes of depersonalization and derealization. Practitioners of certain buddhist meditation techniques tend to have highly developed areas in their brain associated with logical reasoning, and they report a quiet watchfulness state. Practitioners of Transcendental Meditation develop high levels of Alpha EEG coherence in the frontal lobes of the brain, and they also report a quiet watchfulness state.

Which state is the "real" pure consciousness state? Are they all equally "valid" spiritual states?

My take is that the pure consciousness found in TM is the "valid" one. It occurs spontaneously, without effort, and physiological research on the state shows that it is impossible to "hold on to" because by the time a subject notices that they are "in" the state, they are actually no longer showing the physiological signature of the state: they didn't notice the state itself, but only the transition out of the state, thereby sidestepping the question of how can you describe, or even do something like push a button, when you aren't thinking.

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Saijanai
Micro bio? We don't need no stinkin' micro bio...
03:30 AM on 06/21/2011
Links to published research on the pure consciousness state, and on the first state of enlightenment, where the pure consciousness state is always present, during waking, dreaming and sleeping:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0838.2009.01007.x/full
Higher psycho-physiological refinement in world-class Norwegian athletes: brain measures of performance capacity

http://www.tm.org/american-psychological-association
Abstract for the 2007 Conference of the American Psychological Association
Brain Integration Scale: Corroborating Language-based 
Instruments of Post-conventional Development

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12406612
Patterns of EEG coherence, power, and contingent negative variation characterize the integration of transcendental and waking states.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19862565
A self-referential default brain state: patterns of coherence, power, and eLORETA sources during eyes-closed rest and Transcendental Meditation practice.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10512549
Pure consciousness: distinct phenomenological and physiological correlates of "consciousness itself".

http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/content/46/3/267.long
Electrophysiologic Characteristics of Respiratory Suspension Periods Occurring During the Practice of the Transcendental Meditation Program

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7045911
Breath suspension during the transcendental meditation technique.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9009807
Autonomic patterns during respiratory suspensions: possible markers of Transcendental Consciousness.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10487785
Autonomic and EEG patterns during eyes-closed rest and transcendental meditation (TM) practice: the basis for a neural model of TM practice.
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11:16 AM on 06/19/2011
re."most atheists will view a statement like Rumi's, above, as a sign of the man's gullibility or derangement"

A classic example of a a Straw Man fallacy which is based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position in order to bolster the inherent weakness of one's view.
08:36 AM on 06/18/2011
I'd like to recommend an essay on Harris' theme posted on SCRIBD at www.scribd.com/doc/32848765/Theology-for-Atheists. It details why concepts of 'spirituality' and the central issues of theology remain real and serious, though one (like its author) rejects all notions of divinity and the supernatural.
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Jelle NL
Unity in Diversity
03:44 AM on 06/18/2011
A spiritual truth is like other truths: it is a justified assertion. The point is (I believe): when do we consider a given assertion to be justified?
09:42 PM on 06/17/2011
Isn't this the same guy that wrote an op-ed about how torturing people is perfectly fine? Yeah...don't think I really care what some torture happy nut-job thinks.
shylove2
warfare state is pathological
07:24 PM on 06/17/2011
We have a model in our planetary world or the human body more contemporary than the old God King of national religion and autocratic partirachal rules... that is a system where the good of the whole depends on the good of the parts and the good of the parts depend on the good of the whole and the whole is greater than the sum of its parts and the parts have only a partial view of it if at all...
This is a vision of living within the means of our planet sustainably and of balancing body and mind. Our visions of survival of the fittist or random mutation or brain events being the same as mind or dna determining everything is a mechanistic vision of the industrial revolution not that of complex living systems...
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07:52 PM on 06/17/2011
...and if you could demonstrate that there is an interpretation of Sufism where this is what they could have meant... then you might feel free to remove the "shy" from your screen name and just call yourself "love2".

alright, I'll admit it. There are probably a very large number of people who are already using that name. And it's not even clear that they can all demonstrate anything at all about the nature of sufism.
06:39 PM on 06/17/2011
The Isha Upanishad points out that the way to delusion is to see only the material world and the way to greater delusion is to see only the transcendental world. In our modern science we make up things we can not see to justify our mathematical equations (dark matter, antimatter, nine dimensional space...(I've never seen any, have any of you? yet SH and I both believe in them - odd)). This while there is no such thing even as a single point, the foundation of geometry. We are given, empirically evident, an intellect, an integrative right parietal lobe, and an imperfect reasoning/sensing tool. We get to use it with complexity. To buy into one mythology for another is, to borrow a phrase, replacing one tyrant for another. The author spends a lot of language on shoulds and supposed facts (as if they are actually universally true in some demonstrable way as opposed to probable explanations of apparent phenomena). Perhaps less shoulds and more Being is what meditation (and meditative living) is all about. (btw: a poor scientist no more invalidates science than a poor mystic invalidates mysticism) hariaum
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08:26 AM on 06/17/2011
"people have had experiences for which "spiritual" and "mystical" seem the only terms available."
Look at uncle Albert for example. Who came up with such preposterous insights as:
Only two things are infinite. The Universe and human stupidity. Though I’m not sure about the Universe.

"many of the beliefs people form on the basis of these experiences are false"
But fortunately, I’m in the enviable position of infallibly knowing which is which.

"a sign of the man's gullibility or derangement"
Like, allegedly, the numbers that some perceive they see, floating in front of their normal vision. With which they can perform calculations. Quite preposterous, if you don’t happen to be one of them.

"so spiritually barren that it must be destroyed."
Before their quest for the fuel to power the machines to manicure those lawns, lead to the demise of all.

"Qutb was not wrong about everything."
For every way in which his rendition of reality matched mine, was strangely right?

"The Moral Landscape"
Or, View From A Unique Vantage Point?
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Jelle NL
Unity in Diversity
02:40 AM on 06/18/2011
Yes, the Unique Vantage Point - Many naturalist and realists believe that there is such an Archimedean Point outside history from which they can observe reality. And that they own the place. It is like the Baron von Munchhausen pulling himself from the swamp by his own hair.
03:06 AM on 06/17/2011
Will this article exist if no one saw it?
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HowardFalco
Spiritual Teacher & Author of 'I AM'
01:55 AM on 06/17/2011
A lasting & truly transformative experience of well-Being can only be found in the expansion of awareness that comes from a greater understanding of yourself and the world around you. For this to happen you must be "open" to contemplate ideas & angles of perspective that challenge the current beliefs in your mind. Granted this can seem perilous when you fear the decomposition of an identity that carries the label scientist, no different than when a greater understanding of scripture seems blasphemous to one who considers themselves devout in the religious world. However for each the path is the same. What isn't working as it relates to well-being or the understanding that satisfies deep curiosity must be challenged. There is much more to know and the answers all exist. These answers are not found but rather allowed. This only happens when you are ready to allow them in because thats the only time there is "space in the mind for this wisdom to enter. When you are finally tired enough of the dead ends to questions asked over and over. Offering that one must open to the possibility that "higher states" of well being exist is a nice start and a crack towards an open mind that will eventually allow more info in. I can assure you by continuing to follow this path it will take you to a level of scientist that surpasses your greatest expectations. The question is, "How much farther are you willing to go?"...
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08:04 PM on 06/17/2011
I think that for a scientist, it is "best practice" to allow for questions, while not necessarily assuming that they must have answers.

Allowing for the possibility that "higher states" of well being exist doesn't require that one allows for particular answers how these states come about - not even whether they can be brought about or are in any sense repeatable.

The problem of finding the fine line that divides sound argument from arbitrariness exists for the seeker of meaning in the exact same manner as it exists for the scientist.

There ain't no free lunch - not even spiritually.
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HowardFalco
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10:51 PM on 06/17/2011
Opening to the idea that higher states exist and not being curious as to "how" seems to go against all of human nature. Best practice or not, required or not, any good scientist is going to want to know "how?" Secondly, there is an answer to every question. That was the whole point of my comment. This is not arbitrary but fact, and the whole point of evolution.

If a scientist wants to say that the possibility exists for something without investigating the how, and just sit with that and go no further, it has more to do with the readiness for the answer than anything else. Unless it's a true scientist with an open mind who is more excited about discovering new truth then protecting the ones they already believe in. For them, no rabbit hole is too scary to go down...
10:08 PM on 06/16/2011
Spiritual Awareness (page 2)

Meditation is presently both an art and a science. Perhaps in the future, as sciences of meditation and being biology evolve positively and spiritual awareness trait capability also improves, meditation (perhaps other words would be used in the future for spiritual/meditation) for spiritual awareness would gradually become a science. Meditation is one of the best invention by being species which not only have many benefits for practitioner but also huge potential. Presently, meditation techniques are more for well being rather than means to experience nature phenomena. Meditation can also be deceptive since it is not only a science but also an art of living. One should try different meditation techniques and living to have better understanding. Spiritual awareness requires extreme and sustainable efforts and diligence through practices and experience. It is also important to point out that since each being is biologically, genetically, physically and mentally different, spiritual awareness capability would also vary among people. If one has little interest, no interest or view spiritual awareness negatively or never really live such experience; would be difficult for one to even have idea nonetheless judging. Spiritual awareness, which is a fundamental characteristic of being and essence of nature, is not magic. And unlike magic, spiritual awareness is real. Furthermore, we can judge magic, it is either an illusion or a deception.
10:08 PM on 06/16/2011
Spiritual Awareness (page 1 continue on page 2)

Nature phenomena or the natural world can be perceived differently among species. The phenomena could be hallucination, wrong perception or real. The world spiritual can have different meanings for different people or communities. A person experience nature phenomena does not mean that person practice spiritual or understand spiritual. Since spiritual awareness is a trait or capability which being species has just recently achieved in the past several millenniums through millions years of evolution and transformation of such as physical body, intelligence, consciousness and awareness; and therefore, the potential or possibility for spiritual awareness manifestation and ability is still very primitive. Furthermore, entities such as social and cultural norms could also hinder it development if spiritual awareness is not practiced or sustained. Therefore, more often then not, spiritual experience are spontaneous since spiritual awareness ability is still evolved and developed as a species. However, spiritual is not about experiencing natural phenomena. Rather, the real meaning of spiritual is the advancement in understanding and knowledge of meanings and purposes of life, existence and natural world through such as reasoning, contemplating, discernment, objectives and subjective sciences, including analysis of nature phenomena. Presently, spiritual practice is mainly a combination of art, philosophy and sciences. Perhaps, as being spiritual awareness genetic or epigenetic trait gradually evolves in the future, spiritual practice would be more and more scientific or more objective and less subjective.
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ZenGardner
Cogito ergo atheus. 6.875
10:40 AM on 06/17/2011
I have one word for you...

carriage return and line feed.
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Wozzeck
Pearl Bay, Australia
12:22 PM on 06/17/2011
That's
five
words.
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syntax facit saltum
We do not live in a 2 story universe
01:44 PM on 06/17/2011
Amen!
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almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
04:45 AM on 06/18/2011
I read a book by Gabriel Garcia Marquez, I think it was "Autumn of the Patriarch" And the whole thing was without paragraphs or chapters. I am still recovering.
GHarry
Kitty wrangler
07:53 PM on 06/16/2011
Good points all. Religion continues to bind humankind like a set of invisible 40-pound shackles.
It's likely that consciousness is merely an electromagnetic phenomenon generated by the busy brains of the myriad creatures on this planet. I doubt that the universe will find this phenomenon to be indispensable as it goes about its business of combining various forms of matter and energy. Unfortunately, most humans are still at the level of primitive bipeds who need a tribal leader to tell them what to do and what to think -- and so religion will be very profitable for the foreseeable future.
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BornOKtheFirstTime
pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo
06:18 PM on 06/16/2011
"as concupiscent as a bonobo"

I'm stealing that, but changing concupiscent to horny.
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Uncle Bob
Darwin loves you.
04:27 PM on 06/16/2011
You are, of course, more than welcome to go sit in a cave for a year and meditate. If that is what brings enjoyment to you, by all means. I have absolutely no interest in doing such. It sounds extremely boring.

I like how gossip and lawn care is seen as shallow, even narcissistic, but meditating isn't?
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HeevenSteven
20 Minutes into the future.
04:41 PM on 06/16/2011
Cutting the lawn is mediation. The drone of the mower puts me in a trance... hummmmmmm..
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syntax facit saltum
We do not live in a 2 story universe
04:07 AM on 06/17/2011
Why do you need mediation?
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ZenGardner
Cogito ergo atheus. 6.875
10:39 AM on 06/17/2011
Exhibits a narrow view of what meditation is. But whatever.
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Uncle Bob
Darwin loves you.
04:17 PM on 06/17/2011
I thought it exhibited a narrow view of lawn care and gossip. Perhaps I was too subtle.