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Sam Sedaei

Posted: June 8, 2010 11:53 PM

Is Helen Thomas an Anti-Semite, or Are Her Critics?

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Helen Thomas, the veteran journalist and dean of the White House Press Corp, abruptly retired on Monday in the wake of a comment she made following the Israeli raid on the Turkish Flotilla in international waters that killed nine activists, including an American citizen. During a conversation that was videotaped, the interviewer asked Ms. Thomas to make a comment about the Israeli raid. She responded by saying, "Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine. Remember, [Palestinians] are occupied and it's their land. It's not Germany, it's not Poland." When the interviewer asked where they should go, she said, "They should go home, to Poland, Germany and America."

She issued an apology on her website, saying among other things that she "deeply regretted" her comment, and they it did not reflect her "heartfelt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance."

But as expected, her original comment threw the mainstream media in a blind sighted rage and predictable frenzy that no amount of apology could eliminate. Ari Fleischer--George W. Bush's White House Press Secretary--has been one of those people, vocally criticizing Ms. Thomas, saying in a letter to this publication that "she should lose her job over this." And Lanny Davis, former Clinton White House counsel, released a statement on Sunday, calling her an "anti-Semitic bigot." Howard Kurtz,the supposedly independent media critic of CNN's Reliable Sources, also took a holiday from impartiality during his show on Sunday by saying he found her comment "just shocking."

While this is a predictable reaction on the part of many, a close look at all the attacks can help one make the argument that those who criticized Helen and others who have made the same arguments are the real anti-Semites.

Israel was established following World War II and the wake of horrific crimes against the Jews by the Nazis and other axis powers. It was created as a Jewish state based on the rationale on the part of advocates of modern Zionism that historically, Jewish people have always been the subject of persecution, and hence, they can never be safe anywhere else but in a Jewish homeland.

The same people who are vigorous supporters of Zionism are also the ones who speak out fiercely against any action that implies a deep-seated hostility toward Jews. But if one thinks about it, this is counter-intuitive. The very reason why Israel is a Jewish state--a theocracy, like Iran, rather than a melting pot democracy like the United States, or Turkey--is because Zionism itself is based on the notion that Jewish people are different in some sense than non-Jews. Why else would one believe that Jews and only Jews can never be safe anywhere in the world and must have their own homeland? Ins't one really then arguing that there is something that is different about Jews, which makes them subjects to persecution?

And here is the second question: Those who support Israel as a Jewish state are also the most vocal in their condemnation of anti-Semitism. But once again, those two are also contradictory concepts. How can one at once argue that there should be no anti-Semitism and then claim that anti-Semitism is the reason why Israel should forever be a Jewish State? How can one at once pretend to fight anti-Semitism with the implied belief that it can be eradicated and then support a state that was created with the justification that anti-Semitism can never be eradicated elsewhere in the world and accepts anti-Semitism as an ineffaceable human phenomenon?

These questions must lead one to ask who are the real anti-Semites? Helen Thomas didn't say Jews must be exterminated. She didn't say Jews are inferior human beings. And she did not say Jews are more loyal to their religion than to their country. Those comments would have been anti-Semitic. In fact, she didn't even say the word "Jews" at all. But what she did say was true, which is (with some paraphrasing) Jews from European countries have been occupying a land that already had inhabitants, Palestinians. They then began engaging in "religious cleansing"--which Ari Fleischer accused Helen Thomas of advocating--to displace the non-Jewish inhabitants. By saying that Jews must go back to Europe, Helen Thomas actually demonstrated that she was anything but an anti-Semite because she believed Jews can be safe in all countries and do not need a religious state to protect themselves. She showed her belief that anti-Semitism can, should and will be eliminated.

Rabbi Live, the original poster of Helen Thomas's video, has added a line at the end of her comment that reads, "Six million Jews were killed at home in Germany and Poland." As it was expected, Helen Thomas' comment immediately doomed her to immediate wipe-off from the map. But if the questioner in the video had bothered to ask her if she thought Jews should once again be subjected to persecution in Europe, she would have surely said something to the effect that that's absurd, and that the world of today is not the world of Germany in World War II, or the world of Spanish inquisition in 1497, or the world of Strasbourg, Maintz and Erfut in 1348 when Jews were blamed for the plague throughout Europe. But this is the world of 2010 when Jewish people not only enjoy equality, but some of the most respected positions of power and privilege in most societies as much as people of any other religions in countries throughout Europe, Asia, Africa and the Americas. Even President of France, Nicholas Sarkozy, is the son of Andree Jeanne "Dadu" Mallah, who is of Otooman-Sephardic Jewish descent. Here is a news flash: Jewish people in Europe are not being sent to camps and ovens anymore!

Of course the reasons given to justify the creation of Israel as a Zionist state are purified to take away any element of religious fanaticism, because otherwise, how could the U.S. and other supposedly secular states be able to openly support the creation and defense of a theocracy? In reality, the main reason why Israel is a Jewish state is rooted not in logic and desire to protect human rights, but in the Torah, which promises the Land of Israel to the three Patriarchs of the Jewish people.

Nonetheless, the real questions are for those who accuse Helen Thomas of anti-Semitism. Do these individuals believe anti-Semitism can ever be eradicated? If they do, how can they support Israel as a permanently Jewish state? And if they believe Jews must have special rights in the Jewish state, are they saying that Jews are inherently different in some way from non-Jews? Doesn't that make them the real anti-Semites? If they support the Jewish state, doesn't that indicate their belief in the eternalness of anti-Semitism throughout the world?

Despite the American mainstream media that continues to treat us like children by "protecting" us from certain debates and conversations, it is only by discussing these questions in free and fair forums that we can avoid the pitfalls of becoming the victims of religious ideologues who pushed such an esteemed and legendary journalist as Helen Thomas into her ignominious end.

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02:32 PM on 06/14/2010
Helen was just telling it how she sees it. I see nothing wrong with expressing an opinion. I think the US spends way too much time and too many resources supporting Israel. Why not just elt them take care of themselves for once?
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02:10 PM on 06/14/2010
headline poses the wrong question. most people don't know what "semite" refers to. most people see the Israeli/Palestinian conflicts as both sides screwing up while accusing the other of the same. and they're both right.

most people just want to live, let live. do we need to be anti-semite to believe that? pro-semite?

how about none of the above?
01:08 PM on 06/14/2010
What is done to Helen Thomas goes to show you how our first amendment and freedom of speech is being endangered by the Zionists owned Media and News organizations. How the infiltration of the Zionists into our government is the most imminent danger to this country and our values.

They can block and defame others and protect themselves from any damages or backlash from their atrocities. The "Goldstone" report by the UN is forgotten, the latest killing of unarmed and innocent people on the seas and other places are not followed up and no journalist dare to criticizes the Israelis or the Zionists.

Other peoples such ourselves who blog and comment on daily news are being censored and taken out. The power to shape American public opinion is a power that is now controlled by the Zionists and they can shut down our freedom of expression and speech when they want to.

Wake up and see who is stealing your country from underneath you.
09:38 AM on 06/14/2010
"Israel is a Jewish state--a theocracy, like Iran, "

That's like saying he US is socialist, like China.

"Why else would one believe that Jews and only Jews can never be safe anywhere in the world and must have their own homeland?"

Jews are the *only* major religion that, before Israel, did not have a country in which there were the majority.

"Do these individuals believe anti-Semitism can ever be eradicated? If they do, how can they support Israel as a permanently Jewish state?"

One can hope for the end of crime and still realize you will always need a police force.
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04:44 AM on 06/14/2010
Theocracies of any kind should not exist. The world can no longer afford them.

Helen Thomas said nothing more or less than that recent European immigrants to the Middle East who are hell bent on displacing, degrading and/or eliminating the native population.... need to go back to Europe where they originally came from.

Agree or disagree, sure. But this knee jerk nonsense of attempting to anihilate anyone who criticizes Israel in bold or blatant terms is getting very tired.
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04:56 PM on 06/13/2010
You mean to ask if she is anti-Jewish! Semite refers to the language and or region, not the race. Thomas is of Lebonese decent. So are you asking if she is againts her own heritage?
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12:51 PM on 06/13/2010
The only reason the religious right is not acting out their anti-semitism right now is because they hope armygidditon is soon and that Jeebus is coming to smite them for being Jews and they get to go to hebben all by themselves. And if hebben is filled with those losers, the rest of us will have much more fun elsewhere. I believe it is GODs plan. Christians today are the equivalent of the BP oil spill, making a mess on everything they touch. If there is a God he will segregrate them from the rest of us soon so we can be happy.
01:35 AM on 06/13/2010
Helen Thomas is/was right !
She is not what you are saying, BUT she is an (in my view) anti-zionist definitely.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Zionism/Uganda.html
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01:34 AM on 06/13/2010
Thank you, Sam Sedaei, just listened to your video response. Contradictions one's own thinking make some people angry. When one's reaction doesn't line up with one's self-regard, it is a brutal moment and there's a real human tendency to blame the person who pointed out the contradictions.

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05:26 PM on 06/12/2010
Hi,
Here's a newsflash for you: Sarkozy isn't the first French Prime Minister of Jewish Descent.

Leon Blum was Prime Minister of France in the 1930s and he was Jewish. A few years later, the French helped round up French Jews to be send to Auschwitz. Why didn't you take a moment to research your piece and see that the Sarkozi argument is bogus.

By the way, Leon Blum was also send to a concentration camp but I guess that won't stop you from saying that today everything is different. No one believed 6 millions Jews would be slaughtered then either.

Jews will never be safe unless they have control over their destiny. Both Christians and Muslims have made it that way.

By the way, I live in Amsterdam and they have religious holidays here all the time. Christian ones.
This doesn't make it a theocracy. Israel isn't one either.

Give Turkey a few years. I won't be a melting pot (if it is now) anymore. Just ask the Kurds.
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07:37 PM on 06/13/2010
...and so the French are somehow different than the many occupied countries that had collaborators? No, they're not. Sarkozy is an example worthy of note. Are you really suggesting that there will likely be future anti Jewish pogroms in Europe?
11:51 AM on 06/12/2010
Even though there are rational arguments for and against Israel, this article is extraordinarily illogical. Sam Sedaei's points are those of an extremist who has no room in his mind for viewpoints other than his own. As a San Francisco resident, I have met quite of few of these radical activist types who use politics to vent their rage instead of actually trying to accomplish something good for their community or for the world.
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Sam Sedaei
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04:24 PM on 06/12/2010
Name-calling is not an effective way of refuting points. I'm not making an argument "against Israel." I'm making an argument for a secular Israel--rather than Israel as a Jewish state--that accepts people of Arab, Jewish, Christian and other religious ideologies as inherently and legally equal, a melting pot democracy like the United States. I don't see how supporting the principles on which the United States was established is extremism.
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Sam Sedaei
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11:41 AM on 06/12/2010
The main questions that this article poses were focused on the justifications for having a Jewish state. Despite the many comments (most of which have been quite thoughtful), I have not found a single new argument for why Israel should permanently remain a Jewish state to which I have not already responded. The reasons I have heard are: 1) "Jews don't have a homeland", 2) Jews were persecuted in World War 2. All the other comments go off topic and discuss some benign detail in the long Israeli-Palestinian conflict, none of which still justifies having Israel remain permanently Jewish. If those are the only two reasons that even Israel's strongest supporters can offer, one has to wonder why we continue to support this theocracy at the expense of our reputation and security around the world.
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02:54 PM on 06/12/2010
How about the Jews are a nation with a historical connection with the land. You never addressed this argument.

On your argument, the Palestinians have no right to a nation either. And neither does anyone else.
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03:25 PM on 06/12/2010
Jews are just one group of people who have a historical connection to that land. Arabs have connections just as historic and strong, if not more. So this leads one not to support a Jewish state, but a multi-religious and multi-ethnic state with full equality between different groups.
02:08 PM on 06/19/2010
"I specifically address this point by saying you cannot at once argue that anti-Semitism must be eliminated and then support Zionism, which is based on the notion that anti-Semitism is permanent. You can't have it both ways"

I addressed this in an earlier reply by an analogy: You can hope that crime will be eliminated but still be for a police force. Some people are for affirmative action while still hoping for a color-blind society in the end. I hope for a world without anti-Semitism but believe in a save haven for Jews (which means a Jewish majority less likely to pass anti-Jewish legislation and also willing to take any Jewish refugee from any part of the world at any time) in the meantime.
10:34 AM on 06/12/2010
Jews don't believe they need a homeland because they're different They need a homeland since Christians and Muslims over the centuries have proven themselves unable to resist persecuting, torturing, stealing from, and murdering Jews. The Jews are not the problem, other religions are.

Jews were not sent to ovens in 1938 either and what do you know? In 1942 they were!

By the way, the Zionist movement began in the 19th century, well before gas chambers were made to kill the Jews.

Your article shows a lack of logic and a delight in insulting the intelligence of your readers.
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03:01 PM on 06/12/2010
The modern Zionist political movement began in the 19th century. But Zionism, meaning, returning to Zion as a national aspiration is thousands of years old. Pick up any Jewish religious or historical text including the bible, and you will see so.

Jews don't "deserve" a nation because Muslims or Christians treated them badly. They deserve a nation because they have an aboriginal claim to what is now Israel, going back thousands of years and predating Arab and Muslim settlement. They were expelled by Babylonian and Roman empires long before Muslims even existed.
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04:39 AM on 06/12/2010
I dont care whether Helen Thomas is anti-semitic or not, the statment she made was inappropriate and unprofessional.
It would help if you would publish a "summary" and timeline of the history of Israel as a state because in reading people's comments everywhere, there is obviously an entire array of different understandings of what has occurred in history. Many believe the blockade is inhumane, while many others believe that Israel provides sufficient aid to Palestinians as it is necessary as security against Hamas. Every time I see an article posted about the Flotilla incident it extremely favors one side or the other. How can Americans or the world, know the truth?
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03:04 PM on 06/11/2010
In my view, Helen Thomas made an anti-semetic remark, but I don't believe that she's anti-semetic. It is unfortunate, because many of her insights about the Bush wars were right on target. Perhaps age was a contributing factor. I wish her the best, but I think her retirement was the correct course of action.