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Why Our Daughters Need to Play More Video Games

Posted: 11/16/11 05:36 PM ET

Girls today are steering away from math, science and computers in record numbers. In 2011, women in the U.S. earned only 18 percent of all computer science degrees (compared to 37 percent 20 years ago) and made up less than 25 percent of the workers in engineering and computer-related fields. Fewer than 10 percent (9.8) of American engineers today are women.

These statistics stand in stark contrast to the gains that women have achieved in law, medicine, and other areas of the workforce over the past 20 years.

While the lack of women in the science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) fields is often attributed to lack of ability or desire on the part of women, a more likely explanation is that societal beliefs, or stereotypes, color our view -- insidiously sending our young girls a message that women do not have strong mathematical ability and that men make better engineers and scientists.

So how do we reverse this trend?

Sheryl Sandberg, the outspoken COO of Facebook and a role model for women in technology, recently gave some interesting -- and very simple advice on how we, as parents, can encourage our daughters to take an early interest in the STEM fields.

Sandberg's advice? Encourage our daughters to play more video games -- and even play with them -- to pique their interest in computers.

Sandberg's words came at a gathering of technorati in Palo Alto, CA, to discuss job creating. The meeting included members of President Barack Obama's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness such as AOL founder Steve Case and venture capitalist John Doerr.

"The best thing we can do is get in there early, which means computer time for your daughters," said Sandberg. "We also need an educational system that teaches everyone basic science and basic math."

Sandberg noted that high-tech jobs pay well, so a gender gap in computer science ties into the wage gap, where on average women still make 70 cents to the dollar compared to men.

In our household, my 2 boys (and husband) are the video game addicts, whereas my 2 girls lean towards music, dance and imaginative play in their free time. By condoning this, I never thought I was sending them a gender-stereotyped message -- that video games and computer programming are for boys -- let alone contributing to the nation-wide wage gap.

I'd better go fire up the Xbox downstairs -- and figure out how to use it -- before my girls get home from school!

Samantha Parent Walravens is the author of TORN: True Stories of Kids, Career & the Conflict of Modern Motherhood, which was chosen by the New York Times as the first pick for its Motherlode Book Club.

 

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Girls today are steering away from math, science and computers in record numbers. In 2011, women in the U.S. earned only 18 percent of all computer science degrees (compared to 37 percent 20 years ago...
Girls today are steering away from math, science and computers in record numbers. In 2011, women in the U.S. earned only 18 percent of all computer science degrees (compared to 37 percent 20 years ago...
 
 
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
11:06 PM on 11/20/2011
Stanford Medical school did a study on male vs female brain stimulation during gameplay, and found that there's a biological difference: male pleasure centres get hit harder.
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/004982.html

This has 2 implications.

1) Getting females to be as interested in games as males is a losing proposition.
2) Getting male gameplayers to stop gaming and do some math instead is laughable.
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03:35 PM on 11/20/2011
"So how do we reverse this trend?"

We could start with the Huff Post itself. Danica McKellar is among other things, a mathematician. She has published a serious mathematical paper and several children's math books. She also happens to be an actress. How did a recent Huff Post article portray her?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/11/danica-mckellar-aka-winni_n_1088866.html
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
02:37 PM on 11/20/2011
I had seriously contemplated getting Skyrim on November 11 for my wife (no, really, not for myself); although she disdains action rpgs like Fallout, she didn't hate Fable even though she didn't bother playing much. I have read that girls are an unexpectedly large fraction of Skyrim buyers. I've trying to wheedle her into more interactivity: even on facebook she just reads others' stuff.

I was a little surprised that the economy didn't stumble from productivity lapses and absentees after the 11th, but of course most of the boys spent their money on the 8th on MW3. Christmas is coming.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
05:31 AM on 11/19/2011
Wait, I thought it was now OK to admit that there might be gender differences? Or are we back to "everyone is the same"?

Funny...I read articles (here) all the time about how women are better at being CEO's or this that and the other BECAUSE, they are "more social" or "better at communicating", etc.

The implication, of course, is that men are less social and worse at communicating.

But, when the opposite occurs, say..."men are better at math and science" outrage ensues...

Why is that? What is the difference?
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BeerLover
Carpe Diem!
07:47 AM on 11/21/2011
I think it is people's inability to accept that we really ARE different. Women are better at some tasks; men at others. Women are better, more detailed communicators, while men may PREFER math type challenges and tasks.......and that's ok too. We are all stimulated by different things.

I'm sure as technology moves on......women will fit in somewhere, because they'll be better at some aspect of some field than men.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
11:44 AM on 11/21/2011
Curious, you are willing to state that women are better at communication, not that they PREFER it...while you are not willing to state that men are better at math.

Why is that?
01:49 AM on 11/23/2011
I would agree that women are (from my experience) much more social. However, it depends on the person to whether they enjoy math type challenges.

I'm a male - and I myself absolutely hate math and everything to do with it. So we can't say categorize men with math and women with social if not everyone is like that. The majority? I'd still have to disagree.

While I may not be a fan of a math - I'm a huge reader. I've strayed from books, but I read tons of articles online, a day - and prefer them over video articles 80/20.

As I said I dislike math - it's kind of ironic since I'm majoring in computer information science and my future career will revolve around a lot of math. But I'm a "tech geek" and doing math while programming doesn't seem like math - it seems fun...

Thanks for reading my contradiction! :P
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swlewis57
Working class, and proud of it.
12:55 PM on 11/18/2011
Get The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. It's awesome to play. Very good replayability and value, as well.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
02:38 PM on 11/20/2011
Replied above, accidentally.
12:36 PM on 11/18/2011
As a 23-year-old female engineer, I disagree with this. None of my female engineering friends or acquaintences are gamers by any means. I think the best way to inspire girls to go into STEM fields is to show them women already in the field, especially younger ones that they could somewhat relate to. It can be intimidating to go into a male dominated field!
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
05:31 AM on 11/19/2011
Why?
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ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
11:01 PM on 11/20/2011
This is good advice.

There are scads of ignoramuses playing games. None of whom have the slightest interest in bettering themselves, or learning anything. Playing games isn't a reasonable means to get people interested in science math or engineering - it's a means of shutting down learning time.
01:51 AM on 11/23/2011
To some extent it has a lot of influence of people's careers. In high school I wanted to be a programmer for a banking company (oh the excitement!) but I realized that I could take the same programming principles to something I enjoy doing (playing video games) and make a career out of a leisure activity.

Depends on the person and their motivation, I'd say.
HSC55
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave
09:59 AM on 11/18/2011
Wow, things have changed a lot for girls today but still not far enough. Thirty years ago I wasn't allowed to take calculus in high school because I was a girl. Once I got to college though, I was able to take lots of calculus. Then I took the MCAT for medical school admission and received high schores. But at my school interviews all they could ask me is 'why should we waste a medical educaion on you when you will just quit when you have kids? There is still a lot of that being thought if not said out loud by the male establishment that run the math and science departments. They believe the myth that women aren't as good at it as men. Even that college president just a few years ago said so and had to resign over it.
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Targa3141
04:00 AM on 11/18/2011
The last thing any kid in this country needs is more video games.
03:00 AM on 11/18/2011
But the most popular games today are designed to provide instant gratification. They don't really encourage interest in computers. Heck, most of them don't even encourage a lot of thinking or planning. The days of games like Fallout, Legacy of Kain, or Planescape: Torment are behind us. Even strategy games are falling out of favor.

You really need to look at the indie market if you want games that can really make kids think or get them interest in computers.
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
10:37 PM on 11/17/2011
Parents: look into FIRST robotics for both your girls and your boys. www.usfirst.org

The younger kids do LEGO-based robot challenges and the older kids do the large format robots. And there are a number of Girl Scout troops and other all-girl teams who compete, including one in our neck of the woods that's sponsored by NASA. They build kick-ass robots and they are usually among the top contenders in regional and national competitions.

My son started on a FIRST team four years ago, and my daughter followed in his footsteps. She loves it. It's a great way to get exposed to technology--programming, mechanical engineering, web design, animation--and the output is absolutely mind-bogglingly sophisticated.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
02:39 PM on 11/20/2011
Our FRC team has 31 girls and 28 boys this year.
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ConfuciusSay-
Aglets: their purpose is sinister.
11:08 PM on 11/20/2011
NOW you're talking!
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Lady Saera
Love,love,love is the soul of genius, 'Mozart'
10:18 PM on 11/17/2011
Interesting article, amazing stats. I play video games for a few years now, I love them...(actually Im a bit addicted so I find myself time managing so I can work and finish projects).
I think games are good for the mind (some games) I was cajptivated the minute I played a few, (role playing, open ended, not linear though I have played a few of those)Fallout 3, Oblivion, and then an older game Morrowind and I was hooked by that time. I find games a positive thing to do, (certain games) Im awaiting the arrival of Skyrim. (Hey Bethesda, thumbs up) You have to pick and choose what is right for you, and dont lose sight of your social side of life, .it happens, and you wont care, ;)
One last word, I never thought of games as just for guys, I leaped into playing them, knights, warriors mages, whatever, and there are usually female characters for us ladies too ..I think the turning point for me was when I was thinking one day, 'Umbra' dont fail me now as I faced a quest and ensuing battle...and I was level 30...oh sorry, there's a real life out there, shake me now...hehe...'Im a gamer, its too late for me...save yourself! (just humor,honestly, the right games are an amazing challenge, and good for Everyone;)
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Kelzie01
08:27 AM on 11/20/2011
Just curious, how exactly are video games "good for the mind?" I play them every now and again when I'm in the mood but it seems to be a zone out activity to me. Or about as good for you as Desperate Housewives.
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Lady Saera
Love,love,love is the soul of genius, 'Mozart'
02:39 PM on 11/20/2011
Kelzie, sorry for the late reply Ive been multitasking like crazy in life;)...In answer to your it depends on what games you play....I never play games like the zombie ones, etc, I love Oblivion, and games like it. I also t hink it is just one's taste and or desire for fun time, its captivating, and what got to me at first were the stats, having to remember, and recall weapons, stats etc, and eventually I noticed something happened, but it was something I had intentionally pursued...because at first I thought how tedious, but then it was just so much fun. What are you playing? Games can give the impresisonm that they are all like one another and they are not, there is a vast difference, specially those linear games, some I loved, such as Dragon Age...but prefer open ended. But if someone wants to learn math, honestly you have to study math:) no easy solution to that.
03:44 PM on 11/20/2011
>>just curious, how exactly are video games "good for the mind?" <
Games like Morrowind and Fallout 3 and Oblivion (and others) have a strong mod community that is where people use software tools to go into the game and make changes such as add characters lands or just edit weapons. The work that can go into learning how to mod is quite extensive one becomes quite the technician. Sometimes just to install a mod correctly into the right folder and have it work in the game can be more challenging than the game itself. Of the female modders of note ARWEN comes to mind for her Fallout 3 work and EMMA of Morrowind. Nevertheless female gamers are fewer and seem to gravitate towards relational abstract aspects of gaming (the Sims) where the boys seem more result orientated (the score).

This may help explain why many women like professional jobs such as lawyers and doctors and men sciences and engineering.
07:14 PM on 11/17/2011
Well, be careful about some of the games too. For those girls/women who play on Xbox live or any other MMORPG, they often play male avatars. Otherwise, they'll get comments like "T**s or GTFO", or "Get back in the kitchen and make me a sammich!" In all, though, I encourage girls who play games and other problem solving toys.
04:17 PM on 11/17/2011
Having two sons who play some, but not a ton of video games and whose favorite subject is Math, you would go even earlier in their development and point to the toys they've played with that girls don't... legos, kinex, tinkertoys, erector sets, blocks, transformers, model cars and airplay, basically any toy that you have to sit for hours and follow directions to put together. I suppose these develop good executive function which is needed for math. We sometimes make a day out of going to the Lego store in our area, and it is always packed wall to wall with boys. Perhaps parents of girls should put pressure on Lego to design sets that girls would want to assemble. Maybe a Barbie series where they could build the Dream House and her car. Would be a big improvement over playing with those awful Bratz dolls.

Also, most boys I know are obsessed with Star Wars films which are rich with scientific language and big words.
07:05 PM on 11/17/2011
The toys you list are marketed exclusively to boys. Girls don't need some hyper pink princess barbie legos to become interested in playing with them. Not every girl wants to play with the barbie charm school/salon/kitchen/pet store/rescue me castle. Something more gender neutral like the route crayola takes in their marketing and product development might be more appealing than the ninjas, undersea mining, space aliens, rescue heroes, etc., that lego currently focuses on.
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11:10 PM on 11/19/2011
Who says girls don't play with Legos, Kinex, Transformers, etc.? Just because some girls play with Barbies doesn't mean they don't also play with Legos. Do you think girls only play with dolls?
11:53 AM on 11/20/2011
Yes, there will always be exceptions in the same way there are some boys who like to play with dolls. But legos, kinex, etc are marketed to boys and are mainly played with by boys. In my son's LegoRobotics afterschool program, no girls enrolled and I don't know any girls in my son's class that have built the Lego Stars Wars Death Star (probably the most challenging of Lego sets). Sorry to disappoint you with reality of it all.
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isis47470
02:52 PM on 11/17/2011
Yes, Ill admit im pro-video game. But not with out reason, anything can be addicting and counter productive video games are no exception, same as TV and Internet use. Some of the older generation do tend to miss the merits of video gaming, they do have educational value. You may find your son/daughter fails at reading tests but excels at their video games, which includes a lot of text. Hmmm... Or you may find your socially awkward son is a group leader for his band of adventuring counterparts. Hmmm... Video Games can also provide together time for family's if the parents care enough to learn from their kids. The next time you poke your head into your child's room and see them busily clicking away. First ask if they are in a safe spot (it sucks to die on a boss level that took you all night to get too) and then ask them what it is they are so intently doing, you may be surprised. Having mom and dad interested in what they are doing "in a good way" and not "Billy if your on that darn box thing so help me ill..." might help other things too like communication skills with the parents. Limits are good, there is a time for learning and time for play, just remember that the very first way kids learn is by playing. Just because they style of playing changes dose not mean the learning stops.
01:27 PM on 11/17/2011
For those that think video games are big problem for boys causing failing grades, lack of social skills, and other negatives I have to disagree. If someone has a true addiction then that is one thing. If a child is spending too much time on fun things and neglecting their school work then it is the parents' responsibility to stay on top of them to keep their grades up.

I do think kids should gravitate to what interests them but giving the child a new stimulus and seeing if they like it never hurts.