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The NYPD And Muslims In New York

Posted: 08/31/2011 5:26 pm

Last week, a troubling piece of news came to the fore, announcing the NYPD's initiative to promote security through a wide surveillance of New York's Muslims and community institutions. Some of the City's Muslim leaders acted swiftly, questioning the constitutionality of such monitoring. The Police Commissioner and the Mayor continue to insist that no laws have been broken, and they have acted in concert with advice from lawyers. Commissioner Kelly also discounted the criticisms of "so-called civil liberties groups."

If it is all legal, then why is it a problem? One issue is the sense of powerlessness and fear that such surveillance engenders. Police surveillance of any space, whether it is a building or a bar, suggests that something about that space is a cause for concern. We assume that the police, as a law enforcement agency, are there watching out because something illegal has happened there. Common sense tells me that if my place of worship is being watched by the police for terrorism, it is not a place that I should go to. Since the news report last week suggested that every single mosque in New York City had been canvassed and "crawled," then effectively, there is no mosque in New York City that the police deem safe from terrorism. It seems there is no mosque that I should consider safe for me and my family.

For observant Muslims, drifting away from the mosque creates spiritual dislocation and disconnection from the community. There is also a cost to religious freedom, a growing sense that our choices are constrained. For someone like me, who has grown up in the United States and has a sense of belonging outside the mosque, the loss of not attending the mosque is serious but in a different way. For newer immigrants who feel estranged and rely on their mosque for a sense of belonging, direction, and rootedness, the consequence of staying away is potentially greater alienation. In addition, newer immigrants who come from countries where police are heavy-handed are even more likely to stay away if they believe the police secretly watch the mosque. Given that the NYPD has theorized a role for alienation in radicalization, its initiative to monitor every mosque could ultimately produce the very problem that it claims is a factor in "home-grown" terrorism -- more alienation.

Another problem is that the news of NYPD's use of CIA professionals and CIA-informed methods comes at a low point in its relationship with key community leaders, who increasingly feel marginalized by the Police Commissioner. Many of these organizations and individuals came together to form the Muslim American Civil Liberties Coalition to respond to the NYPD Report on Radicalization, released in 2008. There is a growing frustration among these leaders about the NYPD's lack of accountability and transparency. Since 2009, leaders have been asking for access to the curriculum the NYPD uses to teach its officers about Islam and Muslims. The requests have been ignored and leaders became more annoyed with recent news about the use of "The Third Jihad" as background video in a training break for cadets. They have asked for websites that the NYPD lists as inciting terrorism. That has also been ignored. They asked about the use of informants. They did not get a response. Without such information, community leaders are unable to make a determination as to whether the Police is an ally, and whether it will do right by the community. The relationship is growing less collegial, with coalition leaders turning increasingly away from dialogue as a viable option, towards media advocacy and considering lawsuits against the NYPD as a more suitable remedy.

Trust is the basis of any partnership. It is generated when partners take the time to listen to each other, to accept each others' concerns as legitimate and real. In a relationship where there is a clear imbalance of institutional power, such as police having more power than the community, it becomes incumbent on the party with more power to do more of the listening. Listening is required in order to exercise power and authority with justice. Listening and the trust that it engenders can go a long way to create a partnership that will benefit not just the NYPD, but ultimately all of New York.

By ignoring legitimate questions, dismissing community concerns as polemics, and leaving it to investigative journalists to expose its questionable programs, the NYPD has shown a shaky commitment to real and honest partnership. It has shown how little it trusts the Muslim community. Let's just hope that the currently fractured relationship can be reversed, and it doesn't turn into a liability. Our collective safety depends upon it.

 
Last week, a troubling piece of news came to the fore, announcing the NYPD's initiative to promote security through a wide surveillance of New York's Muslims and community institutions. Some of the Ci...
Last week, a troubling piece of news came to the fore, announcing the NYPD's initiative to promote security through a wide surveillance of New York's Muslims and community institutions. Some of the Ci...
 
 
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10:05 PM on 09/28/2011
The New York City Police Department is absolutely correct in their belief that there is no mosque in New York City that is safe from terrorism. Or most likely on the entire planet for that matter.

mosques are nothing more than a breeding ground for terrorists.
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
03:36 AM on 09/05/2011
You remember when just a short time back tons and tons and tons of beef was recalled because just one person died from eating it. Its almost the same principle. If you cannot trust your food what can you trust? I may have my fact wrong, but you should get the idea.
05:11 PM on 09/04/2011
It is very gratifying to hear, that the NYPD have engaged in serious efforts, designed to stop or fight 'terrorism'. But it is very disappointing, that a law enforcement agency, like the NYPD, has ignored real terrorism evidence, right in front of their eyes. If only the NYPD, could follow the real terrorism evidence, to wherever it leads to, instead of following media created suspicions and speculation from 'official sources', that are not supported by available evidence.
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh-sm4ICE3g&feature=fvst
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4
- http://www.infowars.com/you-only-believe-the-official-911-story-because-you-don%e2%80%99t-know-the-official-911-story/
02:03 AM on 09/02/2011
Isn't it amazing that, both in the United States and globally, nobody has security issues with Buddhism? Wonder why?
03:16 AM on 09/02/2011
That isn't true. There are a number of small Buddhist militant sects, and (even though I'm on Tibet's side) China has issues with Tibet.
05:57 AM on 09/02/2011
Because, of course, those pose such grave threats to Americans and others outside their region...
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05:23 AM on 09/02/2011
Colombo (AsiaNews) – In less than a month three churches were attacked in Sri Lanka as a result of incitement by Buddhist monks, this according to Compass Direct which has reported arsons and threats against Christian targets in the country.

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Three-churches-attacked-in-less-than-a-month-6180.html
05:57 AM on 09/02/2011
The exception is so notable that it proves the rule.
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Cindbird
12:32 AM on 09/02/2011
What the police are doing is just flat WRONG. Muslims are no different than any of us. My muslim neighbors are just as trustworthy and honest as any Christian neighbor. It is time to STOP blaming innocent people for 9/11. Those men justified hate using religion. I refuse to do the same.
02:21 PM on 09/01/2011
what the writer of this article calls troubling i call reassuring­..
02:08 PM on 09/01/2011
what the writer of this article calls troubling i call reassuring.. oh i am going to be called a racist for that one im sure
03:18 AM on 09/02/2011
I am not going to call you a racist, but I am going to ask you why you find it reassuring that a sizable minority of our citizens, who have done nothing to raise suspicion other than belong to a religion that some other bad people belonged to, are subjected to police monitoring.
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iLdoRight
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03:40 AM on 09/05/2011
You can't tell your players without a program, Get Your Program Here. ooonnly $1 !
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Rita Khanna
Social liberal but fiscal conservative
09:33 AM on 09/01/2011
in continuation...

For instance what is the point in announcing that they are watching activity at a particular website for
gathering intelligence on extremists. Why do you wish to know this information in the first place?

Again critically evaluate what your are doing. Prioritize. There is no point asking questions which are sensationalist but does not move your cause one bit. You wish to know the identity of informants? I am amazed that you think police will answer anything on that. They can neither confirm nor deny about it. It is not peculiar to Muslims. Whether it is far right or drug dealing or weapon smuggling or nuclear material smuggling, you can bet that police are working with informants.

Do not get into a twist about videos seen during a break between training. Prioritize.
01:22 PM on 09/01/2011
That's quite a strawman. Is anyone demanding the identity of informants? Nobody I can see. Seems you missed the point entirely, about singling out a community for threats.
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Rita Khanna
Social liberal but fiscal conservative
09:32 AM on 09/01/2011
According to you..
Police snooping on mosques indicates trouble at mosques
Since there is trouble you don't go there
Since you don't go there you feel alienated.

That is all okay but surely in this case Police are the messengers. They are giving you the message that there is suspicion. Deal with the suspicion not with the message. If you love your mosque find out why the police are snooping and deal with it.

Shoot the messenger and you will never get the message. If you feel police are not willing to engage and there is a trust deficit then no amount of name calling and finger pointing will ensure it.

Instead first deal with trust deficit. Why is it the police are not willing to trust you? Do you want to force them to deal with you or do you want them to willingly deal with you? If the latter is the case then do you consider them as friends or adversaries? No adversary will deal with you willingly.

You say you want them to listen but actually you want them to talk (by replying to your questions). The police have to tread a fine line between transparency and methods which require secrecy to be effective.
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Sarah Sayeed, Ph.D.
12:28 PM on 09/01/2011
Thanks Rita for your thoughts. I agree with you that there is a fine line between transparency and methods that require information to be kept out of the public. It's important for us to speak about how we can still hold agencies like the NYPD accountable, keeping this balancing act in mind. The Muslim community leaders in NY have been engaged in a lot of dialogue with the NYPD over the years. I think there's been listening and talking on both sides, sadly that has broken down. There is a lot of work for all of us to do, both within the community and building bridges across.
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Cindbird
12:29 AM on 09/02/2011
The police are snooping because they are muslim. That's not hard to work out. How would you feel if the police were snooping at your CHURCH? How would you feel if you were being told because you are Christian, you might do something to hurt someone so we have to watch you? The answers to the questions you pose are all the same: Because they are MUSLIM. Yet that's OK with you because muslims aren't like us after all. It's just flat WRONG. Muslims are no different than you and me. They just pray to a different God. That's not reason enough to assume that they will all become terrorists. It is making the same mistake as the guys who brought down the Twin Towers, using religion to justify hate and suspicion.
08:49 PM on 09/05/2011
wake up cindbird...muslims are different. churches are not targeted because churches are not behind almost all terrorism. if they were, and i were christian, i would understand. if there is no wrongdoing, then there should be no concern. if you're upset about speed cameras and red light cameras, it's probably b/c you speed or run red lights. if you are abiding by the law, then be grateful that the surveylance exists..it may be to you benefit.
12:24 AM on 09/01/2011
Gee......you dropped my comment because I told people they should find out what the Koran ACTUALLY says.....pretty closed-minded of you. And you call yourselves LIBERAL? Really? I guess that telling people to EDUCATE themselves is too conservative for you.
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03:30 AM on 09/01/2011
Educating yourself is conservative when it counters the dogma of political correctness. Welcome to the world of the extreme left.
03:21 AM on 09/02/2011
I am liberal and have read the Koran. I find nothing in it to be more shocking than anything that is in the Bible. I always approve of people educating themselves, but I caution them to be careful about their sources. That does not mean "only get your information from liberal sources", either. It means get first-hand information as much as possible, learn as much as you can, and be open to critical analysis of both viewpoints.
04:23 AM on 09/02/2011
Other than the fact that they continue the barbaric practices of stoning and beheading I'm sure. I don't believe that the Bible says those things much less have people follow them to this day. There is a difference between the religions.....Our culture allows individuals to pick and choose what they want to believe or abide by in the Christian and Jewish religions. Islam is completely different. If you do not 100% submit to Allah, it is grounds for capital punishment. How can you compare that to the Bible?
09:15 AM on 09/02/2011
You make it sound as if there is no difference between the characters of Jesus and Mohammad and that is very untrue.
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09:37 PM on 08/31/2011
Every group or culture thinks their way is the best. There is no American way any more because America was only for rich white men. People do not like change. Change is hard. Change takes work. Change takes times. White men in charge are stupid about trying to hide their agenda. It's really become US against THEM for those guys. The unfortunate part about it that the rest of us have to suffer through the change.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
09:30 PM on 08/31/2011
Many police officers are under-qualified, fervently orthodox to the verge of obsession, and laden with suppressed angers and violent tendencies which they sublimate by joining a socially approved apparatus: The COPS.

Few bouquets for cultural sensitivity can ever be awarded to such a Friday Night Football crew.
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GZLives
08:35 PM on 08/31/2011
Poll: Few Muslims feel U.S. alienation
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62286.html
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Sarah Sayeed, Ph.D.
12:23 PM on 09/01/2011
Thanks for this very helpful link- it's useful to look at both the good and bad news findings in the poll when making policy decisions.
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BlackJAC
It's better to be a black king than a white knight
08:06 PM on 08/31/2011
And the Anti-Defamation League is cool with it all.
06:03 PM on 08/31/2011
Didn't Willie Sutton say he robbed banks because thats where the money is?
04:56 AM on 09/01/2011
dont people say come to america .you dont need a gun or rob banks like Willie Sutton did
all you have to do is cry and get Welfare .i am talking about all kinds that bleed the system to
death
12:31 AM on 09/02/2011
Ok, tell me an example of any US terrorism trial within the past decade that had the planning take place in a mosque. Hasn't been any, even the FBI admitted in Congressional hearings that a substantial amount of their leads come from Muslims calling the police. Even Khalid Sheikh Mohammed told the 9/11 hijackers to avoid the mosques since American Muslims would turn them in if they heard about the plot. Instead they met up in places like Strip Clubs according to the 9/11 commission­.