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What's Really the Matter With Kansas and Cairo?

Posted: 05/06/2012 8:59 pm

Political effervescence and division within many nations is approaching levels not experienced around the globe since the 1920s. Structural failures in economic management bring on such crises when they fail to maintain expectations for improvement in the standard of living among the middle class, the mainstay of democracies and principal source of political stability in the modern world. Such conditions open the way for revolutionary rethinking in politics, when the old moral order teeters and competing ideologies vie to replace it, as with the rise of Fascism and Communism in the 1930s.

In 1928, on the eve of global economic collapse, the wealthiest .001 percent of the U.S. population owned 892 times more than 90 percent of the nation's citizens. Today, the nation's increasingly wealthy top .001 percent owns 976 times more than the bottom 90 percent, a situation that instigates both the growing Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street movements, however differently they apportion blame and seek solutions.

In Europe, a resurgent far right rooted in a stagnant middle class has helped to oust government after government. This is true even in France, where a socialist victory in this week's presidential election bucked the rightist trend with the support of the far left, but with the collusion of a far right that refused to support the center-right incumbent.

In Greece's elections this week, the once predominant center-left and center-right parties lost more than half of their popular support since 2009, while the far left and far right surged.

In North Africa and the Middle East, a better-educated but increasingly impoverished and morally outraged middle class ignited the Arab Spring and continues to fire its aftermath. But decades of brutally sundering secular political alternatives by previous authoritarian regimes now gives surviving forms of militant Islam an opportunity to rapidly establish moral hegemony over society -- especially if allowed (democratically or not) to take control of the coercive power of the state, as happened with the Iranian revolution.

One thing is clear: People are yearning for a moral sense and direction to redefine their nations' political life, and with it a meaning to individual existence that transcends self-interest (after all, the very existence of any religion or nation is predicated on willingness to sacrifice for some larger group of genetically unrelated strangers, which is unique to our species). For this, many of society's most active members are willing to further delay material gratification: "Dignity before Bread," was the heartfelt motto of many young people in the countries of the Arab Spring; disregard of one's own immediate economic interests for the party of "more God and less government" is evident in America's Red States.

To win even more than just an election -- to help us all win the future -- President Obama needs a transcendent moral message that goes beyond economic arguments and taps into the sacred: the kind of sentiment for which the founding fathers were willing to pledge "our lives, our fortunes," more the freedom to hope and dream than just to make a living. Making the debate primarily about "economic fairness" versus "economic liberty" misses the moral mark, not only for own people but also for those in political turmoil throughout the world upon whom our future increasingly depends. Neo-Fascists, Neo-Communists, and religious fundamentalists are rushing to fill the gap.

 
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lrobb
Gold Standard = four paws and a tail
10:33 AM on 05/08/2012
Frankly, the whole income inequality thing would not have become a major focus if the economy had not tanked spectacularly. People with good jobs who can pay their bills with a little left over aren't worried about what someone else has they have not.

The problem is demographics more than economics. According to Bill Bishop, "The Big Sort", we have been ideologically self-segregating into like minded communities, districts, states and regions for the last 30 years. It has now gotten to the point we have more safe congressional districts than competitive ones.

Depending on which source you choose we only have seven to eleven swing states which will decide who becomes President. What this says is that about 86% of the US is completely polarized to the point of never requiring legislators to compromise. For all intents and purposes California and Texas could be on different planets rather than different coasts.

This might work if one political ideology had a significant majority of followers. The vast majority could force the minority to swallow whatever laws it chose to pass. However the US has roughly the same numbers of Conservatives and Liberals distributed in highly polarized regions of the country. This became immediately apparent when 27 states sued to overturn the Health Care Act.

Any "revolution" will be between a highly politically divided middle class not the middle class and everyone else.
06:17 AM on 05/08/2012
Scott Atran’s commentary is clearly pertinent and points to the significance of ‘moral messages’. However, there is a need to investigate the psychology of identity processes that underpin the stances (‘moral messages’) taken by different sections of the community that are gavalnised into competing actions under the societal conditions of great stress (economic woes and dysfunctional administrations). Relevant investigations of such processes reveal the developmental primacy of primordialist sentiments over situationalist perspectives on ethno-national identity. Under societal conditions of great stress, even those with situationalist perspectives tend to retreat into basic primordialist sentiments, a dangerous scenario that requires extraordinary rhetorical skills and administrative policies to contain disintegration of the polity.

Weinreich, P., Bacova, V. & Rougier, N. (2003) Basic primordialism in ethnic and national identity. In P. Weinreich & W. Saunderson (Eds.) Analysing Identity: Clinical, Societal and Cross-Cultural Applications. London & New York: Taylor & Francis/Routledge/Psychology Press. (Pp 115-169)
Weinreich, P. (2009). ‘Enculturation’, not ‘acculturation’: Conceptualising and assessing identity processes in migrant communities. International Journal of Intercultural Relations. 33, 124–139
04:05 PM on 05/07/2012
In Greece, the two parties that supported the EU bailout and its imposed austerity lost out to parties that were opposed to it. Nothing to do with left or right, extremist or centre ground. In France the centre-left won from the centre-right because the centre-right were imposing austerity and although there was a larger-than-expected vote for the far right, it had no real bearing on the winner. Parties on the left and right are collecting protest votes in some countries because they oppose austerity but "resurgent" exaggerates their success. In the British local elections last week, the far right lost all their seats (eight out of nearly 5,000 seats) and a new far left party won just four, primarily due to an anti-war, pro-Islam stance in one city.

In the places where the far right is succeeding, it is rooted in the lower, poorer-educated classes responding to anti-immigrant table thumping, not in the middle classes responding to any sensible policies.
03:46 PM on 05/07/2012
Right-left,left-right,the swinging political pendulum is merely a reactionary movement.All politics is contrarian because it is the easiest way to gather votes,exploiting changes in voter sentiment.
90% of the worlds people simply want security and economic stability,a safe environment to raise their families,the freedom to pursue their goals....but the 10% has another agenda..like building more casinos for the "citizens" to lose their hard earned money within an "illusion" of enjoyment..

The sound moral and economic underpinnings of a once great country are becoming increasingly subordinated to corporate balance sheets.
Voters minds are bombarded with so much well spun rhetoric that everyday reality is a distorted illusion of the latest flavor.,.........while the people starve for substance in leadership.
01:26 PM on 05/07/2012
The author asserts middle class standards of living are lagging and then uses disproportionate wealth distribution as proof.
Proof of jealousy perhaps, but certainly not proof of a poor standard of living.

The current middle class standard of living in the US is higher than mankind has experienced... ever. Ever! Obesity is a huge problem. Obesity! Most have more entertainment options than other generations could even imagine. Education is free. In many places transportation is either free or a nominal cost. Peace reigns, security is high, a social safety net exists for all.

And the only thing folks can talk about is that others got more stuff. And that the situation is so terrible revolt is necessary.

It is really something to behold.
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09:19 PM on 05/07/2012
1) Disproportionate wealth distribution will eventually bring the whole system down.  General success now does not translate into continued success.  Just ask anyone who was laid off in the past 3 years, and/or take a look back at the "Gilded Age".  2) Obesity is not a sign of largesse.  Obesity in our country stems from lack of better food options due to price (i.e. a McDonald's value meal might translate into an apple and a bag of carrots), the availability/ability to exercise (i.e. work is increasingly less ambulatory, hours are longer and stress is up), and increasing unavailability of preventative healthcare.

Yours is a position spoken from relative comfort and a complete lack of empathy or awareness of just how bad some people in this country actually have it.
ubrew12
that crazy uncle from Amarcord
01:09 PM on 05/07/2012
I think its 50/50 we're heading for a deep, deep multi-decadal global depression. Bottom line: the 1% took most of the gains of the last 30 years, used it to bubble the economy to make it appear they own even more, and in such a way that its popping lands on the 99%, and are global with their wealth so good luck trying to track it down. When the bubble pops they'll be true masters of the universe.

Regarding Bernanke's attempts to prop up the stock market with quantitative easing, the expression I read on HuffPo that best describes that is: "If your relatives are giving you candy and cake on a daily basis... you're dying." That describes to me our economy, and the disease is systemic and global.
03:53 PM on 05/07/2012
I too wonder where our world is heading. Most of Europe is a basketcase. Our structural problems here in the US are not getting any better, if anything worse. Even China, India and Brazil face economic difficulties and or course are heavily dependent upon the US having a strong economy.

In all of this the super rich have been getting richer by taking more of the pie not by making the pie any bigger.

We should also remember terrible world economic conditions in part led to WWII. Desperate people are easy to fool as was the case with Germany and Japan. A global conflict could happen again.
12:38 PM on 05/07/2012
Another really excellent and pertinent contribution, Scott. I wholly agree.
12:15 PM on 05/07/2012
Seems as the world loses its middle class, it is losing its middle ground.
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SonicUltimate
12:07 PM on 05/07/2012
The problem is that playing to popular moral indignation only creates more moral indignation by creating stalemates.

Case in point: Obama's "Hope and Change" rhetoric.  While it played well to the more left-wing sentiments of the day, it also created moral outrages on the right which spurred rampant partisanship, and virtually no political action.  In turn, Obama is now "not progressive enough" and the right wing leadership in Congress is ineffective.  

Until electorates in their respective countries wake up and realize endless empotional reactions don't make for good political reform, the world will be stuck in a cycle of political inaction that leaves the field wide open to opportunism and corruption.
11:41 AM on 05/07/2012
Neither Kansas or Cairo wants democracy. All right-winger religious fundamentalists want a GOD to rule them. They want to be children. They want to be told what to do and what to think. Trouble is, every person capable of gaining public office has been purchased by the MNC Multi National Corporations. Kansas and Cairo will get their GODs. To bad their GODs are are in league with the Devil.
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tanstaafl
01:07 PM on 05/07/2012
Do you know the President's Secretary of Health and Human Service, Kathleen Sebelius, is the former governor of Kansas?
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oldwolf49
Religion is a tool of the evil.
03:09 PM on 05/07/2012
"former" gov of
01:41 PM on 05/07/2012
I am no believer, but many religious people I talk to in Cairo or the USA turn to God, through community ritual and dialogue, to seek guidance in making themselves better human beings.mfor them, there is no incompatiblity with democracy, human rights or other moral conceptions that some atheists may hold dear. Fanatics are another story.
fullofmitt
Willard was a rat in a movie!
11:25 AM on 05/07/2012
Kansas and Cairo have one thing in common that will bring both down...right-wingers run both places!
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Dewk
01:45 PM on 05/07/2012
Obama has done a fine job on his own in bringing Kansas down. He didn't need any help from the right wingers.
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Nic the wonder puppy
When life throws lemons, throw them back
11:05 AM on 05/07/2012
I'm as corny as Kansas in Cairo,I'm as normal as blueberry pie.
02:05 PM on 05/07/2012
must be that wonderful guy
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Nic the wonder puppy
When life throws lemons, throw them back
04:37 PM on 05/07/2012
I was actually thinking a big steak
botazefa
Sounds like Bodhisattva
11:04 AM on 05/07/2012
"In 1928... the wealthiest .001 percent of the U.S. population owned 892 times more than 90 percent of the nation's citizens. Today, the nation's increasingly wealthy top .001 percent owns 976 times more than the bottom 90 percent."

So our current crop of billionairs is not only more greedy than 20's robber barons, they are more successful in their greed.

How our TeaParty rubes find themselves lining-up to listen to the GOP's snake oil carnival barkers is beyond my comprehension. What fools. It's some sort of political Stockholm Syndrome I suppose.
fullofmitt
Willard was a rat in a movie!
11:26 AM on 05/07/2012
It's Guns,Gays,God,and now Gynecology that causes them to vote OPPOSITE their financial well-being!!
01:28 PM on 05/07/2012
Then why doesn't your Prez tax wealth? Not income... wealth.

He doesn't because he is the wealthy's handmaiden just like all of the Repubs.
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11:00 AM on 05/07/2012
To win even more than just an election -- to help us all win the future -- President Obama needs a transcendent moral message that goes beyond economic arguments and taps into the sacred: the kind of sentiment for which the founding fathers were willing to pledge "our lives, our fortunes," more the freedom to hope and dream than just to make a living.
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Maybe there is a transcendent moral crisis in America, but I doubt it.

The freedom to hope and dream consistently resolves to the age old fight between those who believe that government should provide equality of opportunity and those who believe that government should provide more equality of result, regardless of effort and ability.

I suspect that Mr. Atran believes that confiscating more earned wealth, rather than encouraging the creation of more wealth, is a large element in the freedom to hope and dream.
11:16 AM on 05/07/2012
What in the world leads you to believe from what I wrote that I believe in confiscating wealth?
12:04 PM on 05/07/2012
Unfortunately there are those, like Jan Allen McDaniel, who seem to believe that those who have utilized the infrastructure our government(s--federal, state and local) have provided--highways, scientific research, education (their own and that of their employees)-- to make fortunes should simply turn their backs on those generations who follow them and leave them to their own devices. That, of course, was the blind greed that led to the great Depression--and that threatens us today.

Of course the wealthiest 1% should pay a greater share--more like 50+ than 35--and certainly more than the 14% that Romney paid.
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12:49 PM on 05/07/2012
In 1928, on the eve of global economic collapse, the wealthiest .001 percent of the U.S. population owned 892 times more than 90 percent of the nation's citizens. Today, the nation's increasingly wealthy top .001 percent owns 976 times more than the bottom 90 percent, a situation that instigates both the growing Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street movements, however differently they apportion blame and seek solutions.
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I take this as an open invitation to take from the .001 and give to the 90.

Is there some other interpretation?
11:54 AM on 05/07/2012
How can you encourage the creation of more wealth when the tax code as well as the method for legislative change is tipped so heavily to the top .001% of earners. Unless you want to encourage the creation of more wealth for the wealthy at the expense of all others.

Quantify your argument.
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12:52 PM on 05/07/2012
Quantify your argument.
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No, thanks.

I'm arguing about political principle, and intend to continue.
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Dewk
01:57 PM on 05/07/2012
How about if you go out and start your own business and then maybe you can become one of the 0.001%. If everybody did this then that would certainly create more wealth without changing the tax code or the legislature. So you claim that those are the reasons is false.
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Ally Solver
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10:43 AM on 05/07/2012
All commenters want the government to regulate everything so they can get free economic benefits.

This is pure envy, hate and jealousy.

If someone wants something, work for it; do not take it from others against their will, that is evil.

Change with the times. People are not evolving as the economic and social structure of the world are changing.

Bottom: People are getting what they deserve.

Censorship is evil.