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Scott Foval

Scott Foval

Posted: June 16, 2010 01:26 PM

Surely I'm not the only observer out here who thinks $20 billion is a drop in the bucket compared to what this catastrophe is actually going to cost. It seems $100-$250 billion would have been a more palatable figure. This is not enough money for really correcting the problem. At the very least, we have a public figure of what BP has been forced by the president to cough up on the front end.

The president's Oval Office speech (published HERE) laid out a strategy for moving forward. I would have preferred if the president had spent more time raking BP and all the other oil companies over the coals a little more, and called in the full power of the U.S. Navy and called on the British Navy's full force (as this is British Petroleum we're talking about) to get this thing cleaned up ASAP.

I also would have preferred a more stringent set of environmental policies, a set of even more specific green energy implementation steps, and as I mentioned above...more money from BP up front. I would have preferred the political talk would have been limited, and the angry Commander-in-Chief showed us "whose ass to kick" to a greater degree.

However, we also need to realize that this guy is the president, and he is a balanced, serious, and stalwart individual; who doesn't make any decision lightly. Progressives who are not satisfied with the job he's done so far likely wouldn't be happy anyway. Some of us get really tired of the "circular firing squad" that appears whenever the lefties don't get absolutely everything they want right away. That effect undermined Carter early in his presidency, and he never recovered. Clinton fought back against it, but then again he was never a progressive per se, so it wasn't something he ran on.

It is important, in this critical juncture, that the American people of all stripes squelch the noise and criticism, and support the president in his effort to just git 'r done this one time. We need to line up and stand with him in order to protect our coast, and to show him that we do remember why we sent him there. We also need to focus on results, not on politics, right now.

The haters and the right wing will continue to bash him regardless. Fox News, for instance, is already sending advertising emails touting the "fallout" from the president's BP meeting today. Well, no one ever really thought they were going to drop the lies and anti-Obama rhetoric anyway, because they are an extension of the right wing of the Republican Party anyway, right?

Everyone else with a little common sense should know that this time is Obama's Katrina. He has responded, has done what he can in the midst of the crisis, and has been straight in characterizing the depth and grave concerns he has. He has been clear, and he is holding the perpetrators accountable, both in word and deed.

It is about time we give him the benefit of the doubt, and line up to help him fix this problem now. Only a strengthened president who has the people with him can do big things like put the choke hold on Big Oil. He needs us to have his back on this, and deserves to receive that power; even if it is so he can prove he means what he says.

 

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12:02 PM on 06/17/2010
I'm curios which Congresspeople will stealthily try to indruduce legislation to pay back BP in a year or so hopping it flies under the radar.
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scottsbigmouth
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11:06 AM on 06/17/2010
I love that the smart HuffPo audience has seriously considered so many of the angles I was trying to bring out in the piece. I wrote it and posted it before we knew the hard details of the plan that came out in the 4-6 hours following its announcement. To address a couple specifics from commenters: 1. I think there are clear next steps POTUS talked about in his speech we need to hold to account, and therefore we should not take him at his word, but keep a list of successes AND missed promises. There's an election in 3 years that will be the judgement day for the President's overall performance. 2. Now we know that the $20B is without a CAP, it is still a beginning figure, and victims still have the option of a class action suit. If you look at the Exxon Valdez incident, after 20 years they only got $500M and a lot of the victims were already dead. What I think is absolutely ridiculous is a Republican U.S. Congressman making excuses in hearings by apologizing to Tony Hayward for the $20B escrow. I mean, the oil is STILL FLOWING, and dead animals are washing up on the shores in 4 states, and estuaries are soaked with crude. This thing could KILL EVERYTHING IN THE GULF. We need to hold these defenders and the executives to account, and not make the "Exxon Valdez mistakes."
05:06 AM on 06/17/2010
Jeeze. I know of at least one progressive who was ecstatic over the $20B (that's with a "B", by the way) BP agreed to surrender. That's not to mention the $100M for oil-rig workers (how come nobody's mentioned that, which is, I think, just a big a deal as the $20B). And, just to make sure everybody's on the same page: This is not a "cap"; instead, you might want to think of it as a "floor". In other words, BP isn't off the legal hook just because they agreed to pony up an initial $20B. And nobody's legal rights were abrogated.

What I would like to know is what did BP get out of this in exchange for agreeing to all of this? So far as I can tell, BP got nuttin', which is incredible, really.

One more thing, progressives: remember, Obama never did say he could do it by himself. During the campaign, he consistently said it would take all of us. Or did you not pay attention in the euphoria of dumping Bush, etc.??

In short, progressives: grow up!
blogisti
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08:58 PM on 06/16/2010
$20 billion is the amount that Obama and BP decided they needed in order to calm down the Gulf residents who were afraid that everything would be lost including reparations.
I agree that the actual amount of damages will far exceed $20 billion. The question remains as to how much will BP actually pay in the end. Does this $20 billion end it?
This is what I think will happen. The $20 billion will be doled out slowly, but steadily, until Obama is re-elected. Then BP will be off the hook and the taxpayer will take over. Why do I think this way?
Look at the facts. Corporations have done very well under Obama. Car companies, health care companies, too big to fail banks and now BP.
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Jacob Steijn
08:57 PM on 06/16/2010
[QUOTE]It is important, in this critical juncture, that the American people of all stripes squelch the noise and criticism, and support the president in his effort to just git 'r done this one time.[/QUOTE]

Please remind me exactly what the president said he is going to do that we are supposed to support?

And if you mention flushing the sludge from the MMS I'll agree. And support.
08:28 PM on 06/16/2010
My understanding is that this is not necessarily all they will pay but it is a start.
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HowdyDoody
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07:13 PM on 06/16/2010
We all know it will cost more than $20 Billion. The $20B is for compensating victims, rather than withholding as Exxon did after the Alaska "spill" and waiting until they all file lawsuits. This way, it can be administered and distributed by a third party. Congress could not pass the $20B liability law -- Republicans in the Senate were blocking it. It's a BIG DEAL that Obama got this concession.

As to the cleanup --- that's a separate matter of liability.
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Doug Watt
Not ready for 2012
06:06 PM on 06/16/2010
Obama didn't get a commitment of $20 billion from BP. He got a promise of $5 billion a year over 4 years.

That is not a good deal for victims waiting for funds and not a good deal if later on BP decides to fight in court. The whole idea was to get a large sum in an escrow account, BP has only agreed to $5 billion of that this year.
Jay Haney
My nuclear family imploded when I was 18. I've bee
06:46 PM on 06/16/2010
Soucing, please...
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Doug Watt
Not ready for 2012
07:08 PM on 06/16/2010
Here is the comment: "BP has agreed to contribute $20 billion over a four-year period at a rate of $5 billion per year, including $5 billion within 2010. BP will provide assurance for these commitments by setting aside $20 billion in U.S. assets."

That was posted in the "BP: 'Small People' Matter To Us, Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg Says" article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/bp-small-people-matter-to_n_614705.html
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HowdyDoody
Freud Woman
07:16 PM on 06/16/2010
You frankly don't know what you're saying. FOX News will not give you correct information. It makes no deal if they give it $5B at a time or $20B in one lump sum payment. It's a legal deal. How stupid do you think this deal is?
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Doug Watt
Not ready for 2012
07:25 PM on 06/16/2010
OK, I'll make a deal with you. I'll give you $200 over 4 years and you give me $200 now.

To quote you "It makes no deal" right?
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06:04 PM on 06/16/2010
A blowout of an oil well is not the same as a hurricane.

We all saw quite a few 'photo-ops' of Pres. Bush (with sleeves rolled up) and brother, Gov. Jeb, handing out ice water, in Florida, after those hurricanes.

Natural disasters are not always predictable. The aftermath of Katrina was. The risk of drilling oil wells in deep water was also well known. -For the sake of blame, let us say former Pres. Bush must live with Katrina and Pres Obama is at fault for this disaster taking place in the Gulf now.

Great Britain is somehow offended that BP is referred to as, British Petroleum. Now we find out that a Swede is actually the boss of BP. -So what.

Nobel was a Swede, but the Nobel prizes come from Norway.

Now clean up the mess. $20 Billion won't cover it.
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HowdyDoody
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07:17 PM on 06/16/2010
$20B is for liability to working people. The cleanup and restoration of wetlands and animal species is a separate matter. Inform yourself, please.
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08:45 PM on 06/16/2010
Howdy-
The $20 Billion covers liability for working people? -Perhaps my point was taken wrong. The working people deserve much more. But, at least this is guaranteed.
Restoring wetlands and rehabilitating the Gulf. far exceeds that figure.
04:45 PM on 06/16/2010
It doesn't matter how much they say BP will put aside. BP has spent years lobbying Congress and building up a list of people there who will do what it wants. If they have to pay $20 billion this year, their friends in congress will find a way to give them back $30 billion next year with apologies for the inconvienence.
Jay Haney
My nuclear family imploded when I was 18. I've bee
05:01 PM on 06/16/2010
You're conceding defeat this early in the game, you deserve every bit of the crap that comes down by your doing nothing.
05:16 PM on 06/16/2010
Your comment is ridiculous. I'm not conceding defeat, I am pointing out that congress is corupt, The fact that BP agreed so quickly to put up the 20 billion shows one of two things.

1. They think the real price will be much higher and are happy to get away with only the 20 billion.
2. They have assurances from their bought and paid for Congresspeople that they money will be returned to them through subsidies etc...

Your comment saying that we deserve everything that comes down is akin to saying that the woman deserved to be raped because she didn't wear a pair of steel underwear.
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HowdyDoody
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07:18 PM on 06/16/2010
Fanned and faved.