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Don't Buy Into Generational Warfare: Keep the Super Committee Accountable to the 99%

Posted: 11/10/11 12:24 PM ET

The 12-member Super Committee is down to its final two weeks to produce a plan to cut at least $1.2 trillion from the federal budget. According to recent reports, both Democratic and Republican proposals have contained sizable cuts from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid -- all programs that benefit the large majority of Americans in the 99% -- while offering little in the way of new revenues.

The forces of the 1% are hard at work to convince us that these cuts are necessary to the fiscal health of the country, and that anything short of these rollbacks will result in economic doom and crippling levels of debt in the coming decades. Their latest attempt to distract from the real issue at hand -- the enormous transfer of wealth to the top 1% that has taken place in the last forty years -- is to convince us that wealthy seniors are the ones taking from today's younger generations.

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This 'generational warfare' angle has unfortunately gained traction in the media recently, and the timing could not be worse. As the Super Committee is deciding whether to cut social programs, these studies imply that since seniors already have much more wealth than the young, it is inappropriate -- even irresponsible -- not to cut Social Security and Medicare benefits.

It is not difficult to spot the errors in these articles. For one, they cite that the median household net wealth of a senior household was $170,494 in 2009, up 42 percent since 1984. This figure includes the value of all property, assets, and savings. But according to the National Association of Realtors, the median sales price of new homes at that time was $172,100. It is not at all surprising that the elderly have more assets than the young: they have worked (and saved) much longer, and most have accumulated property and homes. But beyond the value of their homes and property, the average senior actually has very little accumulated wealth. That is the scandalous news here, not that seniors have more wealth than young workers. (What's more, every age group except the young has experienced net wealth gains in the past forty years -- not just seniors.)

Of course, it is true that young Americans are also in bad shape -- the median net worth of households headed by someone under 35 is only $3,662. There are many causes for this -- for example, high unemployment rates for young people (currently around 18 percent) on account of the recession, which drops earnings and savings levels. But strikingly, cutting Social Security would not help this group at all (especially since they too will rely on it in coming decades). Instead, we need policies targeted to help this age group -- better college loan repayment programs, for instance -- and most of all, jobs.

As the Super Committee enters crunch time, we would be wise to remember the sage wisdom of FDR, who offered this analysis in 1936:

The very employers and politicians and publishers who talk most loudly of class antagonism and the destruction of the American system now undermine that system by this attempt to coerce the votes of the wage earners of this country. It is the 1936 version of the old threat to close down the factory or the office if a particular candidate does not win. It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them.

Don't be distracted by false claims of generational warfare -- the real struggle is against the forces of the 1% who are trying to squeeze the rest of the country even tighter. We need to remind the Super Committee that in the end, they are accountable to the 99%, who overwhelmingly want no cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

 
The 12-member Super Committee is down to its final two weeks to produce a plan to cut at least $1.2 trillion from the federal budget. According to recent reports, both Democratic and Republican propos...
The 12-member Super Committee is down to its final two weeks to produce a plan to cut at least $1.2 trillion from the federal budget. According to recent reports, both Democratic and Republican propos...
 
 
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12:10 PM on 11/11/2011
All this bickering re conservative arguments about big spending and the viability of SS is beside the point of this article and the big-picture issue: Wealth and income gaps are where they were in 1928 and 1890. These gaps, when at the point where the citizens have had enough, have resulted in bloody revolutions or bloody suppressions. The fact is, regardless of taxes and the size of government, there is such a thing as too much. We are on an unsustainable path, and we'd better be thinking about what happened since 1970 or so to make it so. This is not a political issue except when a threatened party makes it so, usually by lies, half-truths, obfuscation, and propaganda.

We are still the wealthiest, most powerful nation in history. At the same time, we rank in the bottom third of all countries for household income distribution, with most of the third-world dictatorships and banana republics. We stink at infant mortality, health care outcomes, education, and just about any other measure you'd apply to a civilized society.

There is shocking news to be found by reading about the GINI Coefficient. And lest the righties think this is a piece of Socialist subterfuge, take a look at the CIA World Factbook, where I got the US ranking. The CIA is paying attention for a reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html
10:20 AM on 11/11/2011
I'm afraid it doesn't really matter what the public wants because Obama and the corrupt members of the super committee from both parties want to cut the programs for the poor and the middle class so they don't have to cut the defense budget beyond just limiting its rate of growth. We shouldn't forget that it was this president who first put the social safety net on the chopping block during the last round of negotiations. It would be extremely foolish and naive to rely on this conservative administration to really defend social justice despite his recent change of rhetoric because it appears that Obama's top priority remains to continue spending a fortune on more wars which will be paid for by the poor and the middle class.
07:57 AM on 11/11/2011
1ST. super comm.??? needs to understand SRS. are Old NOT STUPID we are voters and we are PAYING ATTENTION to who is for for us. I am a SR. who no fault of parents am rasing 2 small grands. I pay tax on my S.S.get NO PUBLIC ASSIST DON,T NEED DON,T WANT i TAKE CARE of MY OWN. IF i can live on a budget no frills just do make it why cannot the govt. go after the people who hide monies , big business no more bail outs, no more aid to other countries { take care of our own1st.}, no more assist of any kind to illegals period, there are ways to fix budget other than on the BACKS of children, vets, srs the poorest of the poor.
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07:43 AM on 11/11/2011
For 46 years I've paid for these benefits, and the government has responded by starting up unfunded wars, allowing Wall St to legally do the big dirties, and dipping into MY money to pay for this crap— then whining that they have no money and gee now they need for me to just suck it up and bend over and take it.
Well, they can stick it where the sun don't shine.
I've paid my dues, and now they can pay theirs.
05:04 AM on 11/11/2011
I'm 73, support occupty wall street, and live in a trailer in the Sonoran Desert, little savings, and few assets. Obama should fend off the entire issue of cuts to SS etc by simply announcing a singular act which he has the power to perform, unaided, without congressional approval - VOW TO NOT SIGN ANY EXTENSION OF THE GEORGE BUSH TAX CUTS FOR ANYONE - that will bring in about 4 TRILLION DOLLARS, and voila! the deficit issue disappears and the bond vigilantes will be satisfied.

Then stop the two unfunded wars, Afghanistan will save a trillion over 10 years and Iraq already cost 1 trillion. Deficit problem disappears. Create jobs by treating China and others as they treat us - essentially return to a mercantilist society, protecting our own industry, and impose a tariff equal to the wage differential so Americans do not compete against slave labor making 85cents per hour and living in cardboard shacks with no electricity and water. Also, punish firms like Whirlpool which take our jobs to Mexico and then sell back into our market, by excluding them from a return to our market for a decade.
04:16 AM on 11/11/2011
The unfunded liabilities for Medicare, Social Security, and Medicare part D total 113 trillion dollars. After confiscating all the money from the 1% that we are all supposed to hate, we are still going to be appox. 100 trillion short. We need to do much more if we hope to save the system for generations, change retirement age, means test. and raise some revenue. Thats the easy part getting the Democrates and Republicans to keep their hand off the money, that ain't going to happen.
Numbers come from the Federal reserve. Not left or right wing sites
05:20 AM on 11/11/2011
How far out does the time frame extend for the alleged 113 trillion dollars? If it is ten years or more, then multiply the effect on the 1% for the same time period so we are talking oranges and oranges. Next, how much would we save by giving up the discredited role of world's policeman by just taking care of our real national interests? Cut 70% of the defense budget 1.2 trillion (including amounts hidden in other budgets - another approximate 10 trillion over 10 years -- single payer health care (yeah, it will be rationed - but, it is already rationed - can't afford healthcare for my wife who is 61) - I am 73. So forget rationing, we go broke if she gets sick, and wind up on the public dole. Raise the SS amount to cover all earnings; end the Bush tax cuts for ALL - 4 trillion in 10 years. And, take the slimy gov't hands off SS - which they have "borrowed" through force - it should have been in a lock box, ain't the problem. Altho, medicare is the problem. Let the gov't negotiate with big pharma for meds - save the tax payer billions (perhaps trillions over the decade). Stop generaltional warfare. We put in our time. Can't recover now. Most of us (males at least gave 8 years of active and reserve duty parts of our lives to give you the society you have -- so knock it off.
11:44 AM on 11/11/2011
Wish I could fan you again. I'm afraid your reasoning falls on deaf ears, but thanks.
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01:21 AM on 11/11/2011
Raise the top wage for contributions into Soc Sec - all done - all fixed. Easy. Why do they make everything so difficult? I can tell you this. They p*ss off those 50 million seniors and they are in for a h*ll of a ride until election time. And, whatever they bring out of those closed meetings still has to be voted on in the Senate. It ain't all over until the fat lady sings.
05:25 AM on 11/11/2011
50 million seniors (many of us vets, who gave 8 years of our lives on active and reserve duty to preserve the country for you - our children) won't be p'ssed off if top contributions are raised. Easy enough to accomplish - you will , however, antagonize the plutocracy which tells both parties to jump and precisely how high.
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10:23 AM on 11/11/2011
As for me, I am the 99%. Someone who spent 20 years in the military. Someone who will hold our government accountable for each and every rotten, little thing they do to the poor and the middle class.
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01:00 AM on 11/11/2011
"wee win" solutions http://bit.ly/tVSgxB

Set aside SS, Medicare, and Medicaid, worries,
so we, the people, can DEAL WITH THE REAL ISSUES.
http://bit.ly/uVqmHB
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11:50 PM on 11/10/2011
Generational warfare is right.

Hereditary Aristocracy is another name.
10:07 PM on 11/10/2011
More Americans need to be aware of the potential for this to emerge from the Super Committee and quickly:

"Outstanding Richard Escow Article"

"The "Social Security Chain-CPI Massacre": Underhanded, Unnecessary, Unfair, Un-American "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/the-social-security-chain_b_888380.html
11:57 PM on 11/10/2011
Great article. It spells it out so clearly anyone should be able to understand how underhanded and unnecessary these cuts are. And how damaging to those who need their social security benefits the most.

I volunteered for a while with Hospice. The patients I visited were all elderly. Good, salt-of-the-earth people living on very small SS benefits, and not asking for more. But their lives were already so pared down that it's hard to imagine how they could live on less. One woman lived in a house smaller than my living room. She'd worked all her life as a seamstress for a now-defunct company, and spoke proudly of her work.

She had a tiny old black and white TV that got four channels, a rotary dial phone, a refrigerator so old it was one of those small, rounded-top kinds, and an ancient stove. She had no car and depended on her daughter or granddaughter for transportation. And yet lawmakers, in their generosity to the 1%, want to deprive women like this of the very means of survival

This is not the America I grew up in, and it's not an America anyone can afford to grow old in.
09:48 PM on 11/10/2011
Republicans rely on a divided country to complete their conquest and destruction of the US. They sow the seeds of division, class warfare, generational warfare, and racial warfare through their messages of hate, fear, greed, jealousy, and bigotry. A united Democratic party will defeat them.
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02:16 AM on 11/11/2011
What I can't figure out is, what is their ultimate goal and what kind of society to do they envision?
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07:31 AM on 11/11/2011
Critics of current republicans self included have suggested they want a society of 1956 - or even 1856, but that seems more and more incorrect. Go back about 1000 years and you have a society likely to appeal to current republican party front runners - based on support of the ruler in return for wealth and power for the very few - and accepted religious meddling in return for support, with few rights for anybody else. Back in those days the system was called feudalism. Great system if you were one of the nobility - not so great if you were a peasant.
11:48 AM on 11/11/2011
Read the history of the 1890s or so. That's it. Barons and peasants. There were free farmers then, but that's not possible now.
08:21 PM on 11/10/2011
I agree- no intergenerational warfare or transfers. Do not make the current generation pay for promises of the last generation. Cut transfer payments from our children's generation to us now.

The top 1% have nothing to do with it. Confiscate all their income and it would not be enough to pay for 'Medicare, Social Secuity & Medicade.
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11:52 PM on 11/10/2011
That depends on how that money is used....
12:02 AM on 11/11/2011
Everyone of working age or older has paid all their working lives into SS and Medicare. When Greendpan and Reagan doubled the FICA tax in 1983, they explained that the increased taxes would help babyboomers "prefund" their own retirement. Now that we've prefunded it to the tune of $2.7 trillion, suddenly lawmakers want to renege on the deal. We CAN afford to continue SS unchanged simply by raising the cap on the amount of income subject to the tax. When the income cap was first established, it reached much higher up the income scale when adjusted for today's dollars. The cap hasn't increased as it was intended to. That slight change would enable SS to pay full benefits in perpetuity - IF Congress would bite the bullet and pay back money stolen from SS by many successive Congresses.
05:55 AM on 11/11/2011
It does not matter what the tax was called or what promises the politicians made when justifying it, it is still a tax. The money goes into the general fund. The money has been spent. Federal spending has grown to the point that economic growth for the country has slowed to a crawl.

We need to cut spending. Military and entitlements both need to be reduced. Tax money given to business and special interests eliminated. Whole departments eliminated.

The problem with increasing taxes of any kind is that the temptation for politicians to spend it is too great. They all know if it is not spent on a program that they support the other side will get it, hurting their reelection. Only when politicians take the hard steps to cut spending and get reelected does the process have enough momentum to significantly reduce debt.
01:29 PM on 11/10/2011
Excellent article. Another, more minor, point is that the more seniors have to spend of their savings (if they have any) because of cuts in either Social Security or Medicare, the lower will be the inheritance of their children or the more their children will have to spend now to help their parents survive.
12:07 AM on 11/11/2011
There are some posters who don't agree there should be any SS or Medicare at all. I wonder if they've considered how they'd like to have their parents show up on their doorsteps, suitcases in hand, expecting their adult child to feed and house them, support them, and pay for their very expensive medical care. I can't think of anythng more likely to make them believers in those programs for the first time.

If nothing else, assuming they had a good income and plenty of investments to start out with, they'd reach retirement to disover all their retirement savings had gone to provide for their parents. Then they could join the club of all the other seniors who arrive at retirement age without enough savings to survive without some kind of help. We'd quickly find out how firm their libertarian principles were then. We saw that Ayn Rand's principles set her firmly against SS and Medicare - until she needed them.