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Straight Guys, Fierce Allies (PHOTOS)

Posted: 11/11/2011 12:04 am

This image and quote recently went viral on Twitter, after Chicago Sun-Times film critic Richard Roeper tweeted it with the remark: "'I'm Clint F------ Eastwood, and this is what I have to say about gay marriage.' BRAVO."

This quotation from the legendary actor, director and Hollywood tough man came from a recent interview with GQ magazine.

The Money Quote:

These people who are making a big deal out of gay marriage? I don't give a fuck about who wants to get married to anybody else! Why not?! We're making a big deal out of things we shouldn't be making a deal out of. They go on and on with all this bullshit about "sanctity" -- don't give me that sanctity crap! Just give everybody the chance to have the life they want.

There is something truly beautiful about some straight guys' brazen approach to the topic of LGBT equality. See, they aren't trying to cope with a lifetime's baggage of feeling shameful and unworthy. And they aren't fetishizing the tactic of presenting their views in nice, inoffensive ways that won't scare the straight people. I imagine it never even crosses their mind that they shouldn't scare the straight people. They haven't sent their talking points through the advocacy organization car wash for a nice polish and buff, to ensure that they better appeal to America's soccer moms and NASCAR dads and are respectful of their deeply felt religious convictions.

Sure, carefully focus-grouped messages have their place, most especially when big dollars are spent by groups that still need the people in power to return their calls sometime in the future. This is a legitimate concern, as is the idea that calling opponent "assholes" may not win us many votes.

Bombastic messaging is actually most effective coming from folks who are safe from being dismissed as just another scary "radical homosexual activist!" That label just can't hang very authentically around Clint Eastwood's neck when he's the one calling conservative religious objections "bullshit."

And it got me thinking, so I compiled a top-10 list of some of the fiercest things our straight male allies have said on the topic of LGBT equality. (Warning: some of the content is totally NSFW.)

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Comedian Louis C.K. demonstrates aptly how the talking points have left the LGBT advocacy building and reemerged in the popular public discourse. He acknowledges the reality on the ground in a hilarious, hyperbolic imaginary hearing at the Supreme Court.

The LGBT equality side makes their well-argued positions, grounded on principles of equal protection under the law, and Louis imagines the opponent's exchange with the Justice. Louis' intonation and vocal inflection makes very clear whose side he's on.

The Money Quote:

And they ask the other lawyer, and he says, "Your Honor, they're fucking queer! They're queer!" That's it, isn't it? That's the whole... "Well, OK, counselor, but I don't see what that has..." "What are you, a fucking faggot?! Your Honor, you're gonna get a fucking beating... Faggot!" Isn't that the whole argument?

Pretty much, Louis, that is the whole argument.

This is a expanded version of a post that first appeared on the Daily Kos blog.

 

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This image and quote recently went viral on Twitter, after Chicago Sun-Times film critic Richard Roeper tweeted it with the remark: "'I'm Clint F------ Eastwood, and this is what I have to say about g...
This image and quote recently went viral on Twitter, after Chicago Sun-Times film critic Richard Roeper tweeted it with the remark: "'I'm Clint F------ Eastwood, and this is what I have to say about g...
 
 
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crayola 08b
i'm just a little crayon in a big box.
04:04 PM on 11/28/2011
"Well, fuck it, I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing."

wow! imagine how much could be accomplished as a nation if everyone in congress could be as brave as Sen. McDonald.
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SteveDenver
Progressive and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.
12:26 PM on 11/17/2011
A few of the statements are from non-celebrities, but are really deserving of your time.

Please listen to the statement from Zach Wahls (#9), 19-years-old and speaking before the Iowa legislature. It is riveting.

Phillip Spooner (#8), is 86-years-old and addressing the Maine Senate Committee. His personal comments have incredible gravity.
09:06 PM on 11/16/2011
if gay marriage was legal everywhere imagine all the extra income earning , how much money is spent on a normal wedding ? if I was to rent a hall out to a gay couple for a wedding party I can't imagine the problem , limo's , food , booze , the band , flowers , on and on and on , everybody makes money , who cares if they are gay , America needs jobs , and this is a time when alot of money gets spent . I'm not gay just a idea to help people find extra income..
01:38 AM on 11/16/2011
I had a good laugh at you because it appears you read only what you want to hear. Maybe try to read the sources they cite in the above articles as their scientific basis for stating their opinions. Basically, no one know why you are gay. There is no "proof" that you are born that way. There is no "gay gene" and the first article even states no one know why some people have same sex attraction. The really funny part is to fully read these articles and then read the research papers they reference, which don't support the arguments they propose in the articles using them as a reference. In the above articles they make broad interpretations from the statistics compiled by the researchers. The above articles reference studies that just compiled a bunch of statistical frequencies. There is nothing in the research projects (that the above articles reference) to prove you are born gay and to prove that it's not a choice.
03:43 AM on 11/16/2011
Okay, Mr. enterohemorrhagic O157:H7, I'll bite.

You're A) talking out of your ar(se); and B) being incredibly condescending in the process.

I don't think anyoe has claimed to unraveled the mysteries of such a complex behavioral phenotype has human s3xual orientation--and yes, that goes for straight/hetero identities as well--but that doesn't mean biology can be ruled out from the equation.

That some cannot be pinpointed to a single locus does not mean it is not under the influence of genetics. Human s3xuality could very easily be the result of polygenic traits, epigentics, or some other change in maternal endorine system during pregnancy. Of course, in all likelihood, it could very well be a combination of both nature *and* nurture.

Whatever the proximate/ultimate causes, you're being intentionally disingenuous, and it shows.

The snarky, obnoxious tone of your post suggests you're a first/second year Ph.D. student, who feels that simply reading a research paper in a scholarly journal makes one classified to wax philosophical on the nature of human desire.

Gross.

Get over yourself, little one.
10:21 AM on 11/17/2011
A most wonderful scientific take-down. Bravo! I wish I could say more, but I can't think of anything to add.
01:20 AM on 11/15/2011
Punk Rock icon Henry Rollins has some quality statements in his comedy/spoken word riff on homophobia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDhnkd4FjD4
12:48 PM on 11/14/2011
Clint Eastwood said it in a "Dirty Harry" way. Its refreshing actually to see a hard ass tell the pious idiots in this country to shut the f@@###k up.
11:36 PM on 12/26/2011
whos listening? He doesn't have a clean record either. Not sound advice
11:46 AM on 11/14/2011
Clint Eastwood is a self-identified Libertarian, and admits that he really does not care about marriage.

So a Hollywood star that does not care about marriage really does not help the same-sex marriage movement.
06:54 PM on 11/14/2011
Actually, your argument as to why Clint Eastwood's perspective doesn't help the same-sex marriage movement proves the opposite. We are not seeking approval, disapproval, support, or anything of the like. We are seeking for our rights to be defended and enforced. I truthfully couldn't give two cents as to whether a random stranger supports, approves, or even disapproves of my relationships- so long as I have the same rights as any other heterosexual adults who are acknowledged by the government. Give me my rights- they're mine, after all. I'll get my support from my friends and family.
11:11 AM on 11/15/2011
Thank you for taking the time to write and for explaining your view. Certainly I want to have the same rights and be treated equally as everyone else, but I have to also admit that I like a pat on the back once in a while. For me, I do not see same-sex marriage as an equal rights issue. The rights and restrictions of state-sanctioned matrimony are equally shared by all citizens. But I have a feeling that we will disagree on this point. Anyway, thank you for your comment.
01:44 AM on 11/16/2011
I am a random stranger, and understand that position and I appreciate. I don't care who or what you have a relationship with or what you do in your bedroom. None of that is any of my business, and it's nobody else's business either as long as it's consenting adults and doesn't infringe on others and their rights. But let's be honest. The homosexual "rights" nonsense is simply nonsense, attempts by activists to gain acceptance of a sexual fetish as "normal". The homosexual "marriage" nonsense is that, AND a movement to use the force of law to force people to pretend it's normal. That's the problem I have with it. And I am about as hard core libertarian as it gets, and I've been atheist since before I was 12 years old, over 40 years.
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Aaron Kirchmann
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10:47 AM on 11/14/2011
SO the answer to all of this is really quite simple. Let gays get married. MARRIED by the legal definition and be recognized federally. Then, if you want to get married in a church, belong to a church who will do so. (The Episcopal church is a good start, if you happen to like all the pomp and circumstance like I do). Yes, a church, being a private institution, can choose not to perform a spiritual wedding, but it would still be a marriage in the eyes of the LAW, which is where it really matters, anyway. Equal marriage rights for all!
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12:21 PM on 11/14/2011
I agree. However, I'd take it one step further. I think the government should allow and recognize civil unions for everyone. Then if you are religious, you can get married in a church. The government should have nothing to do with marraige.
02:01 PM on 11/15/2011
Amen...the basic problem is that we allowed the church to be the vehicle through which the civil marriage contract is conducted. Marriage should be a civil concept, and then those who want "sanctity" to go with it, my go find a church to sanctifiy their vows. We have it "bass ackwards" in the US, once again because of those who don't quite get the roll of religion in society.
11:45 PM on 12/26/2011
does not make it right
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
05:08 AM on 11/14/2011
Since most polls show that the greatest opposition to gay marriage comes from senoirs, it's just a matter of time before the numbers are in our favor. The Catholic Church and other groups spending so much money to hold out for a few more temporary victories should spend that money on homeless shelters and food shelves. I hope religious people will realise this and just send their tithes directly to the people who need it now. In five years, gay equality will be fact in all except the South. Why waste money fighting the inevitable?
07:08 AM on 11/15/2011
The Catholic Church does spend money on homeless shelters and food shelves. Far more money, in fact, than the left.
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
02:02 PM on 11/15/2011
If you can somehow prove that, go ahead and try. The fact is, they make claims but seem to have a lot of money to use discriminating against equality for everyone. There is a greater need today for the hungry and homeless than since the great depression. They shouldn't be wasting any money on pedophile lawsuits and bigotry. And yet they do. How would you even know what the left spends to help the poor?
02:06 PM on 11/15/2011
The Catholic Church is "right"? Hum...I thought it was the church of all. Now it is a political entity. I'm thinking it should be paying taxes then, giving up its tax free exemption. The Catholic Church is also the church that covers up pedophelia with its claim that it must protect the "mother church" at the expense of the vicitims. It is presently paying out millions of dollars in "parishners" tithes as settlement or hush money. It is also the church that has killed thousands throughout history, including the indigenous people of Mexico, Central America and South America. The minimal good that it does does not come close to outweighing it's crimes.
11:47 PM on 12/26/2011
still a sin majority does make it right or normal.
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Claudia Lonow
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01:02 AM on 11/14/2011
This is awesome. I'd love to see a bunch of quotes from men decrying misogyny.
05:44 PM on 11/14/2011
Here's one for you:

Misogyny sucks. Women rock!

- Nitrokitty, proud male feminist
12:39 AM on 11/14/2011
It's not about the gay thing.... it's about how people spend their time.

Do you spend your time helping those who are less fortunate? Or do you want to please yourself via sex? There are more important things in life than logging in sensual pleasures.

All life is, it's a bunch of habits. You are either building up a new good one, or a bad one, for your family. If you haven't a family, that's your #1 misconception. You belong to the human race, here on planet (John Denver called this "spaceship earth.") You belong.

If you ask me, the time for recreational anything is when there is no more turmoil for women and children. If not.... what kind of a race are we?
02:15 PM on 11/15/2011
Geeze! You've got to be kidding. Life is sensual pleasure, my friend. We have five senses, smell, sight, hearing, taste, touch. If they did not provide us with pleasure we'd wither up and die. We do not eat merely to provide nourishment to our bodies. We also eat because we enjoy the tast of certain foods. We do not only listen for instructions. We also listen to pleasurable music. We smell the roses along live's path because the smell pleases us. We touch each other because without touch we die.

Sexuality is a sensory experience that we have the right to enjoy. Placing it in the "animalistic" category of existing merely for the purpose of breeding demeans all humans. Unfortunately, it is the false doctrime of Catholicism that has demeaned humans into believing they should be ashamed of their sexuality. Sexuality, like all things, has a place and requires balance. There is still room to help the less fortunate, to give to others, to be generous and also benefit from healthy sexual experiences. We cannot live healthy lives without valuing ourselves as unique and amazing creatures. It is the unhealthiness of religion that promotes the idea that humans are flawed and "worth - less."

As Jesus is claimed to have said, "The poor will always be with us." We are not intended to be sacrificial lambs, always and only living for others.
03:47 AM on 11/16/2011
Boring claptrap and little more.

Get over yourself, oh pious one.

If you, as a putatively str8 person, are some how superior and/or more focused on the needs of others, allow your altruism to take control and get off the gay-themed message board and go volunteer at your local homeless shelter, poseur.
11:36 PM on 11/13/2011
Two consenting adults can legally get married in the USA!!!!!!! Why should only a specific groups definition of marriage be used?????

It is simply CRAZY that it is still discussed in this manner!!!!! Who freaking cares what two adults as long as nobody is being harmed??????

I remember being in college and being asked if gay guys bothered me, my answer was always the same, it meant one less guy trying to pick up the cool good looking girls, more left for us straight guys.
09:44 PM on 11/14/2011
So a father should be allowed to marry his adult daughter?

What about a bi-sexual? Shouldn't they be allowed to marry BOTH the man and woman they love?

Then why limit it to two? How about three or four or five?

As long as we ate redefining marriage then why put any limits on it all?
11:40 PM on 11/14/2011
Incestuous marriages are not allowed because of the genetic harm that can be wrought upon a child.

Marriages between multiple people has not been allowed in a state or region that allows same-sex marriage so your point is moot. Besides the slippery slope argument is a stupid scare tactic. Don't try to bring up Canada because their supreme court legalized same-sex marriage but shot down polygamous marriage.

Also, the law of the land in the USA doesn't allow the lives of all to be ruled by archaic terms set forth in outdated religious texts.

Love,
A 16 year-old
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thereisonlyoneparty
more amazing than you
11:50 PM on 11/14/2011
Assuming that the father and daughter are both adults and are willfully entering into the contract it would not be a problem.

There should be no limits on number either.  You are correct.
10:09 PM on 11/13/2011
I love Louis C.K. He's the only person who's hilarious when he screams the derogatory word for a gay male in an act.
08:44 PM on 11/13/2011
I liked all of these clips but Chaplain Spooner made me cry.
11:02 PM on 11/13/2011
me too. so beautiful. gave me hope.
08:21 PM on 11/13/2011
What has always puzzled me about those whose knickers are in a permanent twist about same sex marriage is that ALL the ones I have met are divorced, some more than once, and they ALL swore an oath to the god they swear we ought to acknowledge, to love, honor and obey (the person they later divorced) till death did them part. Religious marriage is the concern of the churches (leave me out of it) and the State is only in the business of making sure that kids and property rights are properly shared. So the churches marry whomever they please and everybody gets a civil union to recognize the partners of choice. What is so hard about that?
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WheelsOnFire
Fiercely Independent
11:19 PM on 11/13/2011
Civil unions are seriously flawed -- they are in no way comparable to marriage.

They are not recognized at the federal level.

They are not recognized from state to state.

They confer no tax equality.

They confer no Social Security or Medicare equality.

They confer no inheritance rights equality.

They do not provide the same hospital visitation rights.

They do not provide the right to provide for a partner's medical care.

The list goes on and on.

The better answer is to allow civil marriage for both straight and gay couples.

If someone wants or needs a church ceremony, let them find a church willing to perform it. Increasingly, more and more churches are willing to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies.

And while the churches get concerned about the sanctity of marriage, why don't they refuse to remarry those who get divorced, which is direct contravention of most church teachings, rather than happily marry and remarry serial divorcers?
11:43 PM on 11/14/2011
Wheels on Fire,
I love your explanation but a simpler way to explain it would be to say, "Separate but equal, or any attempt at that is unconstitutional based on the Brown v Board of Education decision."

Just some friendly advice your typing hands might like. :)