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Sen. Tom Harkin

Sen. Tom Harkin

Posted: May 11, 2010 05:27 PM

Protecting Consumers From Unfair ATM Fees

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Every American at some point has stood in front of an ATM and gasped as the screen showed just how much the machine was charging you to access cash from your very own bank account. The national average per ATM transaction is $2.50, but in some parts of the country, it can be as high as $5.00.

The most shocking part of this fee is that, on average, the real cost of processing a transaction today is only 36 cents or less. Where does the rest of the money go? It is going to the big banks, the big card networks and independent machine owners.

In recent years, Congress has acted to protect consumers by setting appropriate limits on the types of fees that financial institutions can charge consumers in areas such as credit cards, but one area that remains unregulated is the fees consumers pay to use ATMs. Currently, there is no limit on what the operator of an ATM can charge a consumer for using that machine.

This is unfair and it is a policy we must address head on.

The Senate has an opportunity to do so in the financial reform package now moving through Congress, The Restoring American Financial Stability Act of 2010. An amendment that I have proposed for inclusion in the pending Wall Street reform bill protects consumers.

My amendment requires the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to ensure that fees charged to consumers at ATMs bear a reasonable relation to the cost of processing the transaction. Essentially, it says that the big banks can set up a reasonable charge based upon what the costs are, but no more than 50 cents per transaction. Think about that: anytime you go to your ATM machine, no matter how much money you withdraw, the machine can only charge you a reasonable fee for the convenience, but in no case more than 50 cents.

Some people may think that $2.00 is not much, but here is the other unfair thing about it. The average person going to an ATM machine takes out on average $20.00 or $50.00 to get them through a day or two, and they are charged $2.50 for accessing that money. Yet someone else may withdraw $500.00, and they pay the same $2.50. The burden falls more heavily on low-income and moderate-income people. That is grossly unfair. And that is why groups like the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, the Consumer Federation of America, Consumer Action, Consumers Union and the National Consumer Law Center support my amendment on behalf of their low-income clients.

Until 2002, in my home state of Iowa, the law required any bank establishing an ATM make it available at no cost to all users. But in 2002, this reasonable Iowa law was preempted by Federal banking regulators. According to the New Rules Project, national banks collected nearly $5 million in ATM fees from Iowa consumers in the first six months after the Iowa law was overturned. Iowa credit unions data said it was about $10 million just in the first year. Add that up and it equals a lot of money.

Our mission in financial reform is to level the playing field for the average Joe. My amendment goes to the heart of that mission, ensuring consumers are no longer victimized by unfair fees and putting the balance back where it should be: on the side of hardworking Americans.

 
 
 
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bankruptedbyharkin
05:46 AM on 05/20/2010
Did what Senator Harkin is trying to do to the ATM industry end up with the death of the inventor?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/19/AR2010051903442.html?hpid=sec-world

Harkin’s Amendment 3812, which would have capped the ATM surcharge at $.50, has been replaced by a new amendment, 4085.
07:39 PM on 05/19/2010
Here are the ATM costs for the people who would like to see a limit of 50 cents on ATM transactions.

Machine cost - $5000 with a life span of 10-20 years, monthly cost of $20-$40 a month
Phone/Wireless line - $40 per machine per month
Employee cost to service machine - $50 per machine per month
Repairs/maintenance - $500-$1000 per year, monthly cost of $40-$80 per machine per month

I work for a small ATM company and I know these costs to be accurate. This is $150 a month and does not include and administrative costs or processing costs paid to the big banks. Most of our machines average 200-300 transactions per month. Our best machine would make $0 before any administrative and banking costs putting every machine at a negative profit.

This sort of fee would put all small ATM companies out of business and cost tens of thousands of jobs. The only ATM’s left would be owned by big banks. Opposing this amendment is not supporting big banks it keeping people like me from losing their jobs.
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bankruptedbyharkin
11:39 PM on 05/18/2010
If Senator Harkin's amendment 3812 to bill 3217 to cap ATM fees is passed, private ATM companies will be out of business and the Democrats will be handing the entire ATM industry to the Big Banks. I don't think any Democrat, or Republican for that matter, wants to be seen as helping Big Banks and Wall Street right now. Vote No on amendment 3812 to bill 3217.
11:15 AM on 05/18/2010
If you are oppposed to Senate Amendment 3812 that Senators Harkin (D-Iowa), Schumer(D-NY) and Sanders (I-Vermont) have introduced to cap ATM fees at .50, and put thousands of people out of work, as well as derail small business owners from badly needed extra revenue in a horrible economy - not to mention leave the consumer without being able to make their own choices - you can do the following:

Email/call/write these senators as soon as possible:
Tom Harkin: http://harkin.senate.gov/contact.cfm
Charles Schumer: http://schumer.senate.gov/
Bernie Sanders: http://sanders.senate.gov/contact/

As well as contact the Senate Banking Committee:
http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=CommitteeInformation.Membership

AND sign this petition from the ATM Industry Association (atmia.com). It takes just a couple of seconds to do : https://app.e2ma.net/app2/survey/34974/204010724/11aa649830/

Under "organization" you can put "concerned citizen," if you are not part of the industry.

REMEMBER, THIS WILL HAVE SERIOUS RAMIFICATIONS ON ALL CONSUMERS IF THIS IS PASSED. ATM's with a fee attached are a convenience - if you don't want to use it, you don't have to.
11:07 AM on 05/17/2010
I also asked a convenience store owner that charges no surcharge for using his ATM. I thought he would have any opinions on this law but I couldn't have been more wrong: He told me that this law would destroy the value he is creating. He told me that the reason many people come into his store is to use his surcharge free ATM. He went on to explain that if this law passed and now all of his competitors take their ATM fees down to $.50 all of a sudden he really isn't offering that great of a value. When I asked him if he thought that his competitors where over charging their customers with ATM fees, He said of course their were not. He told me if I charge more for certain goods I will sell less of those goods, if I discount these goods, I sell more more of them. An ATM is a service like any other, the more you charge the less the consumer will use it. He went on to say if this law passed the would have to put a surcharge on his ATM. I found this interesting that if the Gov't decided to cap ATM Fees they would get rid of the one free ATM machine in town.
11:07 AM on 05/17/2010
I am an atm distributor in middle America. I sell/install/repair atm for a verity of different businesses, however most of them being privately owned Convenience Stores and Bars. My average locations has an ATM that does 300 transactions a month. They have an average transaction fee of 2.00. So they are making $600.00 a month from their ATM Machine. They are not big named corporations. These are places like the Red Apple Fun Center. I know the owner of this business and businesses like his. When I asked them how they thought this law would effect them they told me they would have to make up the money some place. He can not afford to take a $600.00 hit to his income. So now he is going to have to charge more to Bowl, Play pool, eat, and Drink to make up for the profit they are not making on their ATM.
11:06 AM on 05/16/2010
Having the federal govt price fix everything in America would be a great new idea. They can price fix cars, housing, banking, gasoline, food. We won't have to worry about shortages or long lines or ever running out of anything.

Oh wait that already failed in the USSR!
10:57 AM on 05/16/2010
Why don't we put a cap or just eliminate the cost of FOOD? We all need food and it is 'unfair' to actually charge somebody for a basic necessity.

Aren't Iowan farmers heavily subsidized by the federal govt for corn and ehtanol (alternative fuel source which is not used)? So why should the American people have to pay for food? Especially corn, beef, soybeans and other goods and services from Iowa?

After all hasn't Iowa already made enough money?
11:09 PM on 05/14/2010
This is hands down one of the stupidest ideas of all time. Lets figure what profit every person who runs any business earns and then have Harkin and Schumer tell us what theythink we can make. I own an ATM business that I have spent my life savings building. The 2.50 fee barely covers the the costs of buying and maintaining the machines, servicing them and covering repairs, theft, etc. At the end on the month we take home a reasonable amount of profit, we don't get rich. Harkin is typical of every socialist Democrat who couldn't make it outside of the government . If you pass this law almost every ATM in the country will disappear and your bank will have to charge you for a withdrawal. This idiot will wipe out an entire industry that includes armored car drivers, ATM manufacturers, owners, and numerous others. No one is forced to use an ATM, if you don't like it don't use it, the same as any other business. HARKIN to the rescue, he wants to save you 2.00 , what a fool!! Even if you don't like to pay fees you must agree that it isn't the job of the government to decide it for you. This law would be a total disaster and put thousands of small business owners and others out of work. Can't guys like Harkin should find something meaningful to do besides try to save us each ten quarters?
02:40 PM on 05/14/2010
I've been saying this for years and have been sending mail to the Democratic Party and the White House to take this up for a year and a half now. Finally, at least someone has gotten around to somewhat listening.
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bankruptedbyharkin
02:41 PM on 05/15/2010
LiteSleeper, do you realize you will only have the "choice" of going to the bank to withdraw cash if this passes? what will happen when only the banks have ATMs? you will pay a surcharge even if you go to your own bank. if you use a live teller, they will charge you too. Big Banks will raise other fees and add new fees to the point that you will be paying twice the $2.50 people pay now for the convenience because it will no longer be convenient...you will have ZERO choice as to where you get your cash.
What happened the last time the banks controlled something? Hint: your house is worth 33% less now.
What do you do for a living? i want to know so i can let sen harkin know to cap your industry into bankruptcy next.
02:57 PM on 05/15/2010
You show that you didn't read the article and don't know what you're talking about. This amendment would limit the fees they can charge to 50 cents. The ATM surcharge was supposed to be a temporary measure put in place to pay for expanding the network of ATMs throughout the country. It was supposed to end in the early 1990's. The banks saw that they could make tons of money charging us for the privilege of using our own money and fought to keep it. How does capping their fees harm me in any way? And I dare you to make a logical argument.
11:25 AM on 05/14/2010
What about Starbucks coffee? They need to cap the cost of a cup of coffee to what is reasonable. What about the cost of a combo meal at McDonalds, they need to cap that as to what is 'fair' for the consumer.

Lawyers fees are way too high. The federal govt needs to step in and regualte what lawyers charge as to what is "fair" to the consumers

What about the business that YOU are in, they need to put caps on that so that YOU don't make too much money for they goods and services that YOU provide. Where does it end?
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FLRealist
02:46 PM on 05/14/2010
Okay, we get it. You don't care about the consumer, just big business.
09:16 AM on 05/15/2010
Its a service provided to the consumer. The consumer has a choice. Its all about the consumer. Small mom & pop business owners who provide a service are the ones who will lose out. Also, the consumer who lives in a poor neighborhood and recieve their entitlement money on a govt issued debit card many times does not have a bank account or a car and they rely on the ATM at the corner store to draw their money to pay their rent. Who is going to get hurt here?
10:29 AM on 05/14/2010
Here's a novel idea - let's put a cap on Congress' salraies at $50,000 a year and the President at $100,000 a year until they get a balanced budget and a surplus of our tax dollars. Why should Congress be paid in excess of $150,000 per year and why should the President be paid $400,000 a year when the rest of the country is going borke?
01:35 AM on 05/14/2010
What do you think will happen if this bill passes? That we will be charged $0.50 to use an ATM at a Fairground? No, it means there will be no access to cash at all, because the ATM companies will have gone out of business. Not only will the ATM companies go out of business, but this will greatly affect, manufactures of ATMs, the Armored Carrier industry, and banks losing interest on the money that ATM companies borrow. I am sure there are many more companies affected, but I am not in the ATM business so I would not be able to name them.

Where will all the employees of these companies find work? How will money be distributed in the economy if there is no where to pull that money out of an ATM? If I run out of money at a concert buying T-Shirts of my favorite band, and want to buy more random band stuff, where will I get cash? I can't, because the independent ATM companies no longer exist because they can't afford to stay in business with a $0.50 cap on ATM Fees. So this means that the T-shirt vendor at the concert can't sell his wares because I can't access any more money. I'm sorry, how does this help the economy?

Is this really supposed to be part of the economic stimulus bill? Because I don't see the economy being stimulated by this at all.
10:09 PM on 05/13/2010
I say we vote for a cap on Congress' salaries and the ability of them to give themselves raises. I really don't see why a Senator should make over $150,000 a year for putting in, what, a half a year's of work. How does it feel Mr. Harkin to have your job devalue and have someone else tell you how much you are able to make to provide for your family? Or maybe you would like to explain to the taxpayers why the unemployment rate has shot up with the stroke of a pen.
The most disturbing is that all these answers are seconds away with a Google search. Mr. Harkin could have gotten an answer why small business owners charge what they do for an ATM transaction. Instead of just thinking up bills that will get you a 30 second sound bite and fleeting praise from an uninformed public you could actually take the time and research the consequences of your bill. Maybe Mr. Harkin can come back and enlighten us on how to run our businesses on $.50 a transaction.
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bankruptedbyharkin
07:49 PM on 05/13/2010
People who currently don't pay ATM fees because they go to their bank's ATM will be forced to pay the new "consumer protection" ATM fee if this passes. I don't think they understand this, but they will. They will have to pay a fee to use a live teller too. We all know that when the Big Boys get hurt they always lay it on the backs of their customers. They won't end up losing a single penney.