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Penn State To Cut Top-Ranked MFA Program (Updated)

Posted: 04/ 6/11 02:57 PM ET

UPDATE (May 22, 2011): William J. Cobb, the Director of the creative writing Master of Fine Arts program at Pennsylvania State University, earlier this week issued the following public statement: "In this our 25th anniversary year, I'm glad to announce that our MFA Program is very much alive and well, and will continue to receive considerable financial support, including fellowships, teaching assignments, and full tuition waivers. To put this news in context: In March of this year the College of Liberal Arts announced it was withdrawing financial support for teaching assistantships in the MFA Program, due to budget cutbacks at the state funding level. Our faculty and students deeply disagreed with this decision, and lobbied extensively to mitigate its damaging effects. After numerous administrative meetings and much discussion, we've succeeded in our cause. In fact we are not retracting but expanding, with two new degree options in the works--an integrated BA/MA creative writing degree and a combined MFA/PhD--in addition to our traditional two-year MFA. In the last two years we've also welcomed new faculty members Toni Jensen, author of the story collection From the Hilltop (U of Nebraska Press) and Elizabeth Kadetsky, author of the memoir First There Is a Mountain (Little Brown), as well as a new Writer-in-Residence series, which most recently featured Susan Orlean and George Saunders. In these difficult times in which many universities are facing budget cutbacks, ours is a triumph of persistence and support for the creative literary arts."

ORIGINAL STORY (April 6, 2011): According to an article in The Daily Collegian, Pennsylvania State University is preparing to cut a graduate program ranked in the Top 5 in the world in its field.

In an article published on April 1, the undergraduate newspaper for the 45,000-student flagship campus of Penn State revealed that the university "will no longer have the funds to admit new candidates into the [Master of Fine Arts in creative writing] program." The creative writing MFA at Penn State offers concentrations in fiction, poetry and nonfiction.

The decision comes despite the program's prominence in the field's controlling national rankings, published annually by Poets & Writers magazine, a top trade publication. For the 2010-2011 admissions cycle, the nonfiction program at Penn State was ranked in the Top 5 in the world; overall, the nonfiction program ranks in the Top 10 globally among all graduate creative writing programs in the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada and China.

Little explanation has yet been given for why the University elected to cut one of its most prestigious graduate programs.

The rankings for the fiction and poetry MFA programs at Penn State are almost as strong as for the university's nonfiction program: in the 2011 MFA rankings, published by Poets & Writers in September of 2010, the creative writing MFA program at Penn State ranked in the Top 50 overall, the Top 50 in poetry, the Top 40 in fiction, the Top 10 in selectivity, the Top 25 in funding, and the Top 40 in graduate placement. In fact, the program has improved its relative standing in the field every year rankings have been published since 2003, and is scheduled to be ranked in the Top 40 overall (at #34) in the 2012 MFA rankings forthcoming later this year.

College of the Liberal Arts Dean Susan Welch explained the decision to make deep cuts to the university's English Department, saying that the department has a smaller enrollment of undergraduate students than other departments, according to The Daily Collegian. The university's larger Psychology Department, for instance, will suffer few budget cuts, according to Welch.

The university's English Department has long been one of the crown jewels of the University. Last year, the English Literature doctoral program was ranked in the Top 15 by the National Research Council, the leading doctoral-program assessment body in the United States.

A graduate of Dartmouth College, Harvard Law School and the Iowa Writers' Workshop, Seth Abramson is the author of two collections of poetry, Northerners (Western Michigan University Press, 2011), winner of the 2010 Green Rose Prize, and The Suburban Ecstasies (Ghost Road Press, 2009). Presently a doctoral candidate in English at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, he is also the co-author of the forthcoming third edition of The Creative Writing MFA Handbook (Continuum, 2012).

 
 
 
UPDATE (May 22, 2011): William J. Cobb, the Director of the creative writing Master of Fine Arts program at Pennsylvania State University, earlier this week issued the following public statement: "In ...
UPDATE (May 22, 2011): William J. Cobb, the Director of the creative writing Master of Fine Arts program at Pennsylvania State University, earlier this week issued the following public statement: "In ...
 
 
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03:53 PM on 04/12/2011
Not many job opportunities for an MFA grad.

Universities also have to look at the ROI for the programs that they offer. They don't want to churn out grads who can't find work... especially a prestigious, public university like Penn State.
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DanAsta
04:31 PM on 04/20/2011
What you write simply isn't true. I don't know of a single person who did a MFA at PSU during my time there who doesn't have a great job. I'd put most anything down that they have better jobs than the kids leaving with MBAs.
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
04:02 PM on 05/31/2011
Geez, dude, do you ever get out of the office? Even as far as getting into the art or advertising department for your own business?

MFAs are artists and art gallery administrators, writers, book illustrators and publishers, symphony performers, conductors and directors, ballet dancers, etc., etc. -- and the people who get hired to do graphic arts, package design and advertising for whatever business you may be in.
11:53 AM on 04/09/2011
After the program was reorganized several years ago the Penn State MFA was expected to get students to continue into the PhD program in English, so that the MFA program could be seen as contributing to the the department's job placement overall. I don't know how that worked out-- there is a deep split there between the MFA and PhD students, also between the professors. This is posted on the MFA blog: "I really had a bad experience with Penn State, and left after one year. Though I liked the school itself, and the English department as a whole, I felt that the MFA program was insular, narrow and smug. There weren't many professors of creative writing there, and the general vibes was clubbish and negative. It might have been just me. I would have probably stuck around, but I didn't have funding and was very unhappy with my own writing at the time." http://creative-writing-mfa-handbook.blogspot.com/2006/04/thoughts-from-reader-on-houston-penn.html
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Seth Abramson
01:04 PM on 04/09/2011
Heather, FWIW, that article is more than five years old -- a lifetime in MFA terms. Back in 2006 comprehensive rankings of full-residency MFA programs didn't even exist (the prevailing rankings were the 1996-collected -- and 2000- and 2003-republished -- USNWR rankings, which were comprised solely of a one-question questionnaire sent to certain creative writing faculty members around the country). Between 2006 and 2011, the number of applications to PSU rose dramatically, improving cohort quality, and the program became fully funded. (Entrenched insularity was also -- presumably -- reduced by the program's shift from a three-year curriculum to a two-year one.) The program at PSU now is not what it was in 2006. That said, I'll also note that there is no MFA program in America that the story above couldn't be told about -- artists are temperamental types, their in-program experiences are defined by countless factors personal and professional and financial and contextual, and ask ten people about any MFA and you'll get ten different responses. I would never treat a single anecdotal narrative about a program as anything like dispositive -- which I'm not saying you're suggesting is the case.

Also, relations between English Department students in Ph.D. and MFA programs is pretty horrific _everywhere_. That's an old, old story, I'm afraid.
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04:38 PM on 04/20/2011
In the 1990s, the program was not insular, nor was it divided as has been described in the last couple of posts. PSU's MFA was different than a great many others. It was a pretty rigorous program, with 2 grad literature courses required each semester in addition to the workshops, and teaching responsibilities as well (1/1 in the first year and 2/1 in the second and third). You could not be insular if you tried since you were in classes with your MA and PhD cohort, and especially in the Composition teaching practicum, you learned about teaching alongside them. It was a great deal of work. I don't see the deep split as well, but that may have happened later than the mid 1990s when I was there. During that period, the CW faculty also taught Lit. courses at the grad level, and you'd find CW students in all the lit. courses, all the period courses, even the high concept theory courses.
02:43 PM on 04/09/2011
It actually sounds like this writer received the degree back in 2001, which means his/her stint at Penn State preceded that. The post even begins with "all of this may be going gray with old age," which it certainly is if they attended in the 90s. I do know that the program was harder for people without funding, but there weren't many of them; in my three years, only two out of about twenty students didn't receive assistantships.
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Seth Abramson
02:27 PM on 04/08/2011
Perhaps this article, recently sent to me by my brother-in-law, is relevant: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/04/08/sports/s101600D08.DTL&tsp=1.

An excerpt:

"Nearly two months after [the University of California at Berkeley] reinstated three other [athletic] teams that were slated for elimination, the school said Friday that baseball would survive after a massive fundraising effort by alumni, former players, parents of current players and other team supporters.

Cal said financial commitments totaling $9 million were presented to Chancellor Robert Birgeneau on Thursday by former Golden Bears pitcher and fundraising leader Stu Gordon. The total was short of the initial $10 million goal, so additional money is still needed in this effort -- but the Cal administration was confident enough to say the program would be saved."

Why can't this happen at Penn State? If the primary concern is for the integrity of the MFA program there, i.e. the vitality of the Arts at Penn State -- as I know it is; this is certainly about more than just faculty jobs and giving undergrads a chance to attend a non-competitive MFA program -- why isn't there a fundraising effort under way to salvage the program? Certainly faculty and students might play a role, but even more importantly alumni and other friends of the program -- not to mention PSU officials (and there _should_ be many of them) and other local community members who care about the Arts.
02:59 AM on 04/09/2011
I received my MFA from Penn State in 2007 and, like many alums, just found out about this situation two days ago from links to your article.

I am outraged.

From what I’ve heard, the decision came from very high and no one was prepared. The English department has slimmed back the program in the past few years, but this cut was a shock to everyone. For many adjuncts, grad students, and faculty, it came as a line item in departmental meeting minutes, and they were as blindsided as the undergrads who found out when the courses they expected to take were not listed in the spring schedule.

While I *definitely* appreciate your article bringing light to the story and generating discussion (thank you!!), I have to say that comparing our situation to an athletic program isn't quite accurate. Let's face it: people in the U.S. care more about sports than they do about arts. If this were a problem of a Penn State sports team facing cuts, you can bet the fans and alums would scream. But writing?

Right now, I'm reaching out to fellow MFAers so we can understand what happened and what is happening so we can write and shout to whoever will listen about how &$%#& pissed off we are.
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Seth Abramson
11:31 AM on 04/09/2011
Sharon, you're quite right, and I didn't mean to make a direct comparison. I was intending, instead, to simply ask the question: If a hockey rink costs $88 million (see below); if you can save a baseball program with $10 million (see above); how much would it actually cost to save the smallest MFA program in America? Especially with the Development Department of the tenth-largest public university in the U.S. on the case?
03:16 AM on 04/09/2011
The "saving" of the program submitted by the English department is a 5-year BA-to-MFA--encouraging undergrads to stick around another year for an MFA, rather than a BA, in English. To say that the 3 years I worked taking equal numbers of grad-workshops AND seminars WHILE teaching is equivalent to what an undergrad can achieve in one year is, well, insulting.

Do the MFA alums have money? No. Do we have supporters? I hope so. In the three years I attended, there were two-dozen MFAs. The beauty of the program was its size and now that size is a liability.

But can we write? Yes. I am writing to President Graham B. Spanier (president@psu.edu); the dean of the Liberal Arts College, Dr. Susan Welch (swelch@psu.edu); and the head of the English department, Dr. Robin Schulze (rgs3@psu.edu)--who thinks the program can be salvaged with this 5-year BA-to-MFA B.S.

I may also write to the Centre Daily Times (cdtonline@centredaily.com) and the Daily Collegian, (Penn State's undergrad paper: collegian@psu.edu).

I encourage anyone saddened by the destruction of an excellent arts program by an esteemed university to help us fight the good fight and encourage Dr. Schulze to give tenured writing faculty more say in how the program is restructured. Because now, they have none, and a once-terrific program is being re-designed by people who do not value writing as art.
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04:42 PM on 04/20/2011
I have no doubt that there are excellent undergrads at PSU who can write (and as a TA there in the 90s, I have kept in touch with a few of my former students who went onto MFAs elsewhere) but to assume that a student who self-selects as an MFA as an undergrad will automatically develop into the type of student worthy of a slot in an MFA program is questionable, at best. I think turning the MFA program over to students who would willingly pay for it is not a bad idea, but you're right that it needs to be a lot more rigorous than a tacked-on extra year. The problem, as I see it, is that PSU already charges very high tuition for a public school, and that this applies even moreso for out-of-staters.
02:18 PM on 04/08/2011
This is a tragedy on an: intellectual level, institutional level, and an economic level. The discipline as a whole will not grow nor develop as it could without an important center for intellectual development. This will not affect only those pursuit an MFA but also those students who want to explore their curiosity in the discipline.

On an institutional level, how can Penn State call itself a university when it is cutting an important programs. A university is not a business, nor should it be run like a business. While university budgets needs to be maintained, that does not mean university resources should be allocated to those departments that can bring in money from selling intellectual property. Academic departments should not justify their existence based on their market value. After all the market is fickle, and unpredictable, and it is naive to have blind faith in it. A major that may not be hot today, may be the most lucrative major 40 years from. We won't know. So when Penn State drops its MFA program, it should change its name to the "Pennsylvania Technical School" because that's what it will be.

But if you want to talk about economics, and the market, the fine arts have an important role in the development in the American economy. The one thing the Chinese and Indians cannot and will not beat us at is creativity.
02:01 PM on 04/08/2011
If Penn State wants to save millions of dollars.....the answer is that they should require their full-time faculty to teach four classes per semester. Rather than the current course load of two classes one semester and three the next. Penn State is not unionized so they can make up their own rules as they go along.
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DanAsta
04:44 PM on 04/20/2011
So, in other words, you want to turn PSU into a community college, because you certainly will not attract the highest level of researchers and such under your scheme. Nothing against community colleges (the professors there are actually paid quite well in comparison to profs at AAU schools) but research universities are NOT teaching universities. There's a big difference.
12:25 AM on 04/23/2011
Research dollars at PSU will soon be a thing of the past. With the proposed 158 million dollar cut from Harrisburg full-time faculty will soon be required to not only take on more classes per semester. They might even be required to cut the lawn and sweep the floors. It is a good thing PSU never unionized huh?
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LearnMe
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08:06 AM on 04/08/2011
On the one hand, seems no big deal, a natural market-driven response--we have plenty of MFA programs. But, also, mostly sad, as even though the MFA degree doesn't necessarily do much for you professionally, I like the idea of a world populated with people who write, or want to, or once did, with people who value literature and stories; if many of them end up doing something unrelated, so be it, as long as the programs are up front about what to expect, as long as funding is there, etc. Proud graduate of U of M program--Go Blue! http://learnmeproject.com/
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DanAsta
11:12 AM on 04/08/2011
I'm not sure about the "professionally" part. 4 out 5 in my class wrote books. 2 out of the 5 went onto corporate careers involving writing. 2 of the 5 ended up teaching in academia.
04:06 PM on 04/07/2011
I graduated from the PSU MFA program in 1989, and I've been a creative writing professor at West Chester University--also in Pennsylvania--since my graduation. English Departments overall are facing problems with the proposed budget cuts because of the class size. We don't "make money," because we have to keep so many of our classes small. Administrators tend to ignore the fact that many of those small classes are freshman composition classes--half the work of English Departments everywhere--if not more than half. The SMALL MFA program at PSU, while great for the writing students, is a death knell, unfortunately, in these times. I agree, though, PSU could have done more to SAVE this program rather than slowly killing it off by not approving new hires, forcing the change to a two year program, etc. They've had the ax out for the program for awhile. I suspect the English Department overall will face even more "difficult decisions." I'm heartbroken over the loss of the MFA program, and I can only hope creative writing programs across Pennsylvania don't receive similar treatment. Yeah, I want to keep my job. I also want to continue to work with my creative writing students who have achieved some wonderful things over the years. Here's hoping some of the arts in Pennsylvania survive this budget travesty!
01:48 PM on 04/07/2011
As an instructor in the English Department at PSU, I agree with everyone who expresses outrage over cutting the MFA program at Penn State. I disagree with this decision and agree that it is an issue of misled priorities. It's a depressing time to keep trying to teach students to read, write, and think critically.

But at the risk of diverting the discussion, may I ask where the "Top 5" claim comes from? The link to the rankings takes me to a Top 50 listing that puts PSU MFA at 44 overall rank; 48 poetry; 38 fiction; and 10 nonfiction. Not that this affects many of the arguments for keeping the program, but it's a little misleading to call it "a graduate program ranked in the Top 5 in the world in its field."
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Seth Abramson
02:10 PM on 04/07/2011
Three interconnected websites -- the Poets & Writers Speakeasy Forum, The Suburban Ecstasies, and Tom Kealey's MFA Blog -- collectively represent the largest online community of MFA applicants in the world. Since just the beginning of 2009, the latter two sites alone have received more than 1.5 million unique visitors. One aspect of these communities is a massive data-gathering effort that has accumulated literally thousands of points of data about the nation's 200+ low- and full-residency MFA programs. Much of this data gets synthesized every year into the national MFA rankings published by Poets & Writers -- but not all of it. Some can only be found online, though it's part of the same data-collection project that produces the rankings (there simply isn't enough room to publish annually all of the data collected). As the article above states, the isolated rankings for the 2010-11 application cycle, available only online, show Penn State's nonfiction track in the Top 5 of all eligible programs -- including any and all eligible U.S., U.K., Canadian, and Chinese programs. In the three-year rankings published annually in print, PSU's nonfiction program ranks #10, though it will rank #9 in the rankings due out later this year. The most accurate, up-to-date statement of the program's ranking is the isolated annual ranking, but for methodological reasons the three-year assessment is used. So yes, the PSU nonfiction program is ranked Top 5 globally this year, Top 9 over the past three years.
09:28 AM on 04/07/2011
Well heck, if I had to pay what these kids pay to get a Bachelors, I'd get a degree that led to a job that allowed me to pay off my mountain of debt so I could live the "American dream" and all that jazz. It's like the kids who argue over grades- in their minds, they are paying for it, so they deserve what they pay for. Is it right? Of course not, but it's not difficult to understand. Also- Hi, Seth :)
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Lev Raphael
Author of "Writer's Block is Bunk"
09:24 AM on 04/07/2011
For those discussing the faculty, here's how the program describes its staff, and you can decide whether these writers are distinguished or not, based on what you read here and what you think of their reputations and their work:

"Our accomplished faculty writers have earned some of the most prestigious writing awards and honors, including Guggenheim, NEA, Ingram Merrill, Stegner, Dobie-Paisano, Bunting and Fulbright Senior Scholar Fellowships; Lamda Literary, Whiting Writers and O. Henry Awards, as well as numerous Pushcart Prizes. They have been in residence at places like Breadloaf, Yaddo, Millay and MacDowell Colonies and have had their work published in journals such as Poetry, The New York Times, Esquire, The Village Voice, The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Antioch Review, Epoch, New Letters, Gulf Coast, The Clackamas Literary Review, Descant and Texas Bound among many, many others.

Current MFA faculty includes fiction writers William J. Cobb, Charlotte Holmes, and Toni Jensen, poets Robin Becker and Julia Spicher Kasdorf and nonfiction writers Toby Thompson, Elizabeth Kadetsky, and Brian Lennon."
04:07 AM on 04/07/2011
The cuts at Penn State reveal a not very cleverly hidden agenda. Under President Spanier, Penn State has cut: Religious Studies, Social Welfare, Rural Sociology, Integrative Arts, Administration of Justice, American Studies, Counselor Education and now its pioneering top rated program in Science Technology and Society. All departments known to have a tendency to critique the corporatist world view being thrust hard onto what was once a proud upwardly mobile ladder for the working and middle classes. Watch for similar cuts in the future.. say to Educational Theory and Policy a department with a progressive reputation.
07:48 AM on 04/07/2011
I think you say po tay to ,and I say po tah to .These are predominantly content lite classes.It's a shame about the MFA program,but choices,etc.The programs served as de facto sinecures for faculty with no real intellectual disciplines or abilities.Jack Vance was very good on this when he remarked (sic)" they...serve as places of employment for those who would otherwise ,at best , be on the dole and,at worst.be footpads."
Still,April 19 is McDonald's Nat'l Hiring Day
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Seth Abramson
08:59 AM on 04/07/2011
Corwin,

I think you've admirably summarized the sort of Neolithic view of the Arts that leads directly to the death of entire civilizati­ons.

Thank you.

S.
01:09 PM on 04/07/2011
Content life courses? Integrative arts was a highly successful design program that placed over 90% of its graduates into IN FIELD job. Rural sociology studied the very real problems found in the slow destruction of small towns in \America. AoJ studied the ways force is used and misused . Counselor Ed well I guess you think it is somehow wrong to want to give kids a better life .. And if you think that studing the relations ship of science and technology to general society is not worth anything, realize that the very fact you can comment on this is the result of a vast change in American society..
07:50 AM on 04/07/2011
And,to cite another sci fi/fantasist , Heinlein is literally brutal towards ed theory as a major. See,"The Number of the Beast."
10:41 PM on 04/06/2011
It's a bummer that Penn State is closing down it's MFA program, for sure. I'm not sure how globally important their program is, though, and even though nobody agrees with all ranking systems, I think it's laughable that anybody would rank PSU's nonfiction MFA in the 'top 5 in the world' (laughable, too, considering the number of nonfiction MFA programs outside of the United States) - Seth, shouldn't you point out, when linking to the Poets & Writers 'rankings', that you're the one who compiled them? I suppose it is probably not realistic to expect the Huffington Post to start acting as if it had journalistic standards now, but even though this article is about Penn State's MFA program, it feels equally about promoting Seth's P&W rankings, which, despite Seth's dubious methodology, do have some value - I just think Seth should point out that he's the one who compiled the rankings which he cites instead of leaning on P&W's reputation.
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Seth Abramson
10:54 PM on 04/06/2011
To correct you: It's not just that there are MFA programs in several countries around the world, it's that applicants _apply_ to U.S. programs from around the world. When I speak to directors they often tell me about the many countries their applicants hail from. So yes, a U.S. MFA program ranked in the Top 10 by Poets & Writers is considered by applicants around the world to have that sort of reputation -- which is something I've heard from applicants from China, Israel, and other countries just within the past week. As to who compiles the data for a magazine -- what's your point? Do you care which team of researchers compiled data for USNWR? No, of course not. In any case, I specifically avoided self-promotion here by not taking "credit" for simply collecting the data for Poets & Writers as a freelancer, so for you to claim this is self-promotion is strange. But the important thing is this: All ranking methodologies are in some way or another dubious, this one just happens to be the very best available (and uses the very best data available) in this field, and the rankings are -- just as I wrote -- the controlling rankings in the field. So given that the story was about the tenth-largest public university in the U.S. cutting a top-ranked program, i.e. about cutting a _highly-ranked_ program, how could the rankings _not_ be mentioned? So how about we stay focused on PSU here.
09:33 PM on 04/06/2011
I don't mean to be insensitive, and apologize in advance - but an alternative viewpoint is always healthy, right? I applaud Penn State! It takes real courage on the part of the administrators, to axe a top-ranked program. An amateur writer and a graduate of a top-ranked MFA program myself (4 years ago), I believe that MFA programs are worse than useless. There's no worse enemy to excellence than mediocrity, as Nietzsche said - and MFA programs produce, sanction, and demand only mediocrity! Again, my apologies, if your feelings are hurt by this. But bravo, Penn State - may you lead the way.
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Seth Abramson
10:01 PM on 04/06/2011
TT,

I'm guessing that, of all the cockamamie reasons PSU gave for axing one of its most prestigious graduate programs, the argument that the program is now and always has been producing bad work (or homogeneous work) was _not_ one of those considered -- ever. Probably because it's preposterous. There are bad writers inside and outside the MFA system -- but unlike living in abject poverty, having two or three funded years to write is something that talented writers _can_ take advantage of to the betterment of their writing.

Seth
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DanAsta
11:04 PM on 04/06/2011
Sorry your MFA was such a waste, but I can tell for certain, you are not reading widely among work produced by graduates of MFA programs. There are mediocre writers everywhere, there are also excellent writers coming out of MFA programs as well. Is that any different than any other pursuit?
11:35 PM on 04/06/2011
Actually, I do read very widely, both fiction and poetry. And yes, your point is taken, that there's wretched writing by non-MFAs, but I can't discount my own experience, which wasn't confined to my alma mater, and which gave me a bleak view of creative writing as just another mindless industry. It's all about hierarchies and connections, and we all know it! (Think Breadloaf waitership, think any book prize. I'm talking about literary writing of course, not popular literature, which is worthless!) Seth's point is taken too, that PSU's reasons seem only financial - but I'd like to think that there are professors who have come to the realization. Don't get me wrong, I'm very sympathetic of my fellow MFAs of all kinds - y'all are lovely and awesome, and I feel your pain. But can't we collectively be brave, speak truth, and say that Creative Writing is stupid? Political and economic percipience begins at home, with what we do ourselves. (This is why I have such a problem with academic critiques of capitalism (e.g. certain poets) - these academics are paid by money that come from somewhere, i.e. endowments that are in turn derived from capitalist investments.) Anyhow, Creative Writing as an industry is destructive - that's my argument. Thank you for your comments.
09:13 PM on 04/06/2011
This means fewer options for international applicants, whom I imagine mostly have to go for fully-funded MFA program packages, unless they have the financial resources to pay their way through an MFA.

/off topic Anyway, I didn't apply to Penn State because they required the TOEFL.
08:07 PM on 04/06/2011
As a graduate of this program I'm gutted. Read Paul West's memoir, Master Class, which details the last graduate fiction writing seminar he presided over at PSU before retiring, and you'll see what's being lost. In another memoir, West refers to Penn State as "Pigskin U." Clearly, budget decisions such as this align more with a Pigskin U. than a PSU. I suspect certain rhetoricians on the faculty are popping the champaign--they've long loathed creative types in their midst and have been pushing for this for years. Of course, this wouldn't have come about if the blue-haired rubes of Pennsyltucky hadn't voted the Grossly Onanistic Plutocrats into power. "You don't need to know no book writin' to mow my lawn. Now git!"