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Egypt Is Not Iran

Posted: 06/26/2012 1:05 pm

Now that Egypt's ongoing revolution has delivered the country its first Islamic president, there's a common Iran-related theme I've been noticing among the Egyptians I speak to online and follow daily -- "Egypt will not be Iran."

Gigi Ibrahim, a young activist who is among Egypt's Twitterati, summarized the threads in one tweet: "There needs to be a clear message to the west that Egypt WILL NOT be Iran and it can NOT even be!! STOP this Islamist SCARE!!!"

I've heard this sentiment echoed since the first day I arrived in Cairo last May, where I lived for eight months. I was picked up at the airport by an Egyptian student, Refaat, who said upon hearing that I was Iranian-American: "I love Ahmadinejad."

I was surprised. I had expected a young Egyptian activist to align himself with Iranian activists, not Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose disputed re-election in 2009 sparked the first of many YouTube and Twitter-fueled uprisings soon to follow in the Middle East/North Africa region. But during our drive to Tahrir Square, Refaat shared a perspective I would hear echoed: "I love him because he says 'F-you' to the West."

He went on to explain that living under the rule of a U.S.-backed dictator his entire life (26 years) meant an admiration of such leaders who take political stands against the West (despite the same leader's repression of his own people). In Tahrir that day, I filmed young activists who showed me tear gas canisters imprinted with "Made in U.S.A." I interviewed a young man selling Osama bin Laden shirts, who argued that Western governments including the U.S. and Israel should be considered "terrorist."

I asked Refaat -- who, like the majority of Egyptians, is Muslim -- if he desired or feared that Egypt would become like Iran after revolution, an anti-Western Islamic state. "No we'll never be like Iran," Refaat said. Even if Islamic leaders came to power, he said, Egyptian Muslims are of the Sunni sect, while Iranian Muslims are Shi'a, which has a hierarchical clerical structure and a judicial system based on Shi'a Islamic law, or sharia.

The Egyptian revolution was not an Islamic uprising or an "anti-Western" uprising, others in Tahrir said, and in conservative regions, even devout residents protect their tourism-based incomes, which include availability of alcohol and openness of dress.

"There's three things you never mess with when it comes to Egyptians," joked an activist friend. "Their women, their pride, or their money."

When I first arrived in Cairo, it had been five months since the uprising that ousted former president Hosni Mubarak. A police force once feared for corruption and brutality -- including the beating death of Khaled Said, news of which helped fuel the uprising -- appeared castrated. Activists would hold modest protests against jailing of 12,000 civilians who were facing military tribunals, but across Egypt, soldiers were still regarded with reverence for having "saved" the people from the police during the uprising.

The country was, and still is, being run by a military regime that promised transitory rule. Activist warnings about military rule came to head in August, on the first day of Ramadan. I was in Tahrir when soldiers drove in with tanks. Mubarak's trial began two days later, as police stood guard in Tahrir, and soldiers were stationed around it.

Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood campaigned for Parliament by handing out packaged vegetables with their logo and meat -- a prized gift during the holy month.

In October, nearly two-dozen Coptic Christians were killed by soldiers in a massacre driven in part by sectarian propaganda fueled by state TV announcers. In November, clashes erupted when police and soldiers tried to remove a sit-in. Young men held back security forces from Tahrir for a few days in the face of tear gas and ammunition.

About 2,000 were injured and 40 were killed in five days of fighting, including a well-known Muslim cleric. Graffiti on the walls of Cairo included an image of the cleric and a young Coptic protestor killed in October holding hands in unity. Parliamentary elections were held several days after a truce was brokered by Muslim clerics. The Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice (FJP) party won a majority of the seats.

Fast forward seven months to today, and the FJP's Morsi, a former prisoner under Mubarak's regime, has won the presidency over Ahmed Shafiq, Mubarak's former prime minister, during elections managed by the military regime.

"No more military rule and trials inshallah (God willing)," a 29-year-old revolutionary activist wrote me. "Damn I am excited. And the revolution continues."

Just a few days before, this same activist had written me to share his belief that the elections would be "stolen" by Shafiq and military rulers, following a Supreme Constitutional Court ruling that dissolved the parliament. The military rulers had also removed the president's power to control the military and seized other authority.

The activist had emailed me a famous photo from Iran's 1979 Revolution, showing the firing squads used to execute rebels and Shah supporters. "This will be Egypt," he had written me. "Egyptian activists will face trouble soon."

Clearly, Egyptian and Iranian societies are as different as their relationships with the West and Islam. Iran's revolution was more than 30 years ago. Oppositional audiotapes helped shape one religious leader as the voice of the revolution. A national referendum formed an Islamic Republic, and the transition period included a war with Iraq.

But while some Egyptians on Twitter have been virtually rolling their eyes at warnings of an Islamic state, some Iranians are reminding them the same promises President-elect Morsi has made, like not enforcing the hijab for example, had also been made in Iran.

So far, Morsi has kept his promise to leave the FJP after being elected. He has vowed to be the leader of "all Egyptians." I know just as many who boycotted the elections as those who voted for Morsi as the "lesser of two evils." Since Morsi's win, Muslim Brotherhood members have been joining secular activists in Tahrir to chant, "Liberal, secular, Islamist, revolutionary -- all one hand against military rule."

And some of the most revolutionary activists I know are surprisingly giving Morsi the benefit of the doubt, with a caveat. Yesterday, Iranians tweeted news of two alcohol drinkers sentenced to death, and an apparent falsified report that Morsi had spoken to an Iranian news agency. Meanwhile, a 19-year-old Egyptian activist named Mohamed wrote asking his peers to focus on the lack of a constitution and parliament.

"My dear not-pleasant-about-the-results friends," he wrote, "you can be only divided into two groups. Islamophobics (YES YOU ARE) and anti-Ikhwan politics. As for the first type, you need to stop it. I don't think Morsi would drop everything and look at your hair or your beer. More important issues at hand. As for the second type, I know it wasn't the most pleasant choice, but it was the less harmful option. Let's see if they can deliver."

"If they can't," he added. "See you in Tahrir."

 

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06:53 PM on 07/03/2012
When a dog lives in a cage all his life and suddenly the door is open, for the most part the dog will not venture out but remain within the confines of his cage. When the people of Egypt have the opportunity to venture out into real democracy they chose to remain in their own cage of being ruled by a dictator. Do they really believe the Muslim Brotherhood will be the answer to free them from their cage? Not in their nor anyone's lifetime.
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05:07 PM on 07/02/2012
I'm in Cairo right now and completely agree with your views. While people I have met are not necessarily happy with Morsi's win, they are willing to give him a chance - but just as ready to keep the fight going should he not deliver on his promises to represent ALL Egyptians. Congratulations to all Egyptians on their new president!!
06:08 PM on 06/28/2012
God Knows what is the point of this article.

All I can say is that Iran's revolution was also mixed with varied opinions but predominantly islamic. Once Western powers placed sanctions, The MI6 and the CIA helped Saddam in his coup, and Iraq launched its war on Iran as an effort to thwart the new Iran, the nation radicalized. The new government needed its most devout followers, people it could trust, to defend the nation and its new government. My point is: If the Morsi brings true change to Egypt he will face off the West which will plunge the nation into an inevitable crisis, much like Iran, and he will have to rely on his base-the Islamist believers. Iran will repeat itself. Unless Morsi does nothing for the people of Egypt.
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02:58 PM on 06/27/2012
Egypt is certainly not Iran, in more ways than one. Yet, in one respect the history of Egypt during the past 65 years does suggest one important similarity:

Both Egypt and Iran have called for Israel's demise, and the annihilation of every trace of Jewish life in the Jewish people's homeland.

Egypt initiated three major full scale wars - within a coalition of additional Muslim-Arab states - against the nation-state of the Jewish people, Israel. And, for years has been the basis for terror groups operating against the civilian Jewish population of Israel.

Iran has called for Israel's annihilation, and for decades has been equipping, financing and training its front troops on Israel northern and southern borders, e.g. Hizballah, Syria, Hamas, IslamicJihad. Indeed, Iran has been using Israeli civilians as living shooting targets in the training of its troops. All that Iran is missing now is a nuclear devise to bring about its goal.

Islam, in both cases, has been the underlying motive!!
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alimostofi
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06:33 AM on 06/28/2012
You mean Hezbollah in Iran. Iranians themselves are non violenrly opposing the Hezbollah in Iran. Let's get the naming right. Be careful when you use the word Iran. Iranians have an alien in the midst who pretends to be acting in Iran's best interest. At best it helps arms traders.
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HEXYEBO
What time is it ? Same as usual
12:09 PM on 06/27/2012
Egypt Is Not Iran... Yet.
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
10:05 AM on 06/27/2012
Which seem the more reasonable to term a proximate cause of the 'Arab Spring'? Protests triggered by and egged on by someone who claimed a heavily monitored election was 'rigged' against him, even though his own poll monitors were reporting to his headquarters that the counts were fair and he was losing, protests met with unarmed police auxillary units acting with a remarkable degree of professionalism despite being subjected to violent swarm attacks by the 'peaceful protesters', and eventually being stopped by mass arrests (not mass killings, arrests) of those who persisted in running riot, with the vast majority of those arrested being released a day or two later, and those associated with the politician involved retaining their prominent positions within the government, or that a state that the same country that supports/supported the brutal dictatorships that were/are rebelled against is attempting to crush with every tool it can took those protests in stride, remained a place where dissent is possible, and then achieved a major milestone that the dictator supporting state had threatened it would prevent even if it had to use military means, and showed those threats to be overblown?
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Richard Pearce
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06:17 AM on 06/27/2012
It seems that certain uncomfortable truths are too much for the author to let appear in this thread. Just remember, the Iranians had a nice, peaceful, basically bloodless revolution that got rid of their American supported dictator. Then the Americans reimposed that brutal dictator on them again. Having been through that sort of cycle, would you have risked leaving the door open for a repeat?
07:46 AM on 06/27/2012
this is because everyone wants to just brush history under the carpet and only raise there voice about the outcome of wrong policies by the west according to what the power media block wants people to hear. truly our eyes and ears are sealed to the truth.
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alimostofi
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05:44 AM on 06/27/2012
With the US pulling out of Iraq and later from Afghanistan the US forces are going to need other areas to be stationed to keep them busy. The US people will need to be pursuaded to pay for defence somehow, otherwise there will be cutbacks. It looks like Egypt will be next area of conflict. The Islamists will gently enter Egyptian politics with an idealistic Democratic US President just like Jimmy Khomeini . Obama is perfect. Later a more right wing Republican contender will start scaremongering the US public to get votes from the religious extremists like George Bush did. Romney is perfect. That will then make the Islamic politicians in Egypt and other parts of North Africa more radical. That then enables more US forces to be deployed. Romney will get even more money for his campaign and he gets elected. It all makes perfect sense from an arms traders' point of view. And the same is true for all the arms suppliers to the new regimes in North Africa and Iran. The old conflict of guns versus butter is alive and well. Nothing has changed.
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12:10 PM on 06/27/2012
myopic navel gazing.
11:04 PM on 06/26/2012
Darn right Egypt is not Iran. The Iranians would never allow themselves to be put in a position of being governed by an American puppet goverment in the first place!!
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12:11 PM on 06/27/2012
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Baghooli
Immortals!
10:28 PM on 06/26/2012
"I love him because he says 'F-you' to the West."
And here is answer to all those who seeking on how to make others fall in love with you, Lol! ;)
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Marcus047
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10:10 PM on 06/26/2012
"Egypt Is Not Iran"

No it's not, because egypt has to deal with Wahhabists, who unlike the mullahs of iran are much more likely to engage in repressive and terrorist activities themselves, whereas the mullahs of iran prefer to act through proxies. Thus, egypt is actually in a worst state than iran was 35 years ago. The Wahhabist will make iran look like a buddhist peace protest.
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moby49
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08:58 PM on 06/26/2012
Saudis are more "islamist" than Egyptians ever thought of being. I wonder why they haven't aligned with Iran? Hmmmm. Think about that for a while.
11:20 PM on 06/26/2012
Read a little history for a while.
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HEXYEBO
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12:12 PM on 06/27/2012
moby49 obviously never heard of Sunni- Shiite schism and yet presumes to comment on this subject.
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suchabigmouth
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05:53 PM on 06/26/2012
I feel sorry for the women of Egyot. In a few years, they will look back at how they voted and realize that they sold themselves back into slavery. Give Morsi a few weeks, and he will abandon western suits and start wearing flowing robes.
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12:13 PM on 06/27/2012
Not a few weeks. But certainly as soon as his power is consolidated.
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Alois SaintMartin
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05:22 PM on 06/26/2012
Not Yet ?

I. hate to bring It up. It feels like Snitching, or Something ? The Longer Egypt (The Muslim Brotherhood?) puts off the Introduction of Fundamentalism, into the Political Spectrum, the longer that Political Spectrum, will remain supplicant to said Political Intimations. But make No Mistake Ms. Rahimi; The New Egyptian Republic, is as far from your Vision of Democratic Global Humanity, as Bashar al Assad is, from an extended Vacation on some distant Mediterranean Island. The Arab Spring may be a passive form of Republican Islamic Revolutionary-ism, but it is an Islamic Revolution, Jihad etc. The Means may differ, but Ends are the same. Allāhu Akbar !
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